26.1 – Assumptions
We have reached a stage where we have discussed almost everything related to Mutual funds, leaving us with the last crucial bit, i.e. the mutual fund portfolio construction. I’ve spent last several days to think through the best possible way to explain this, and finally concluded that this is a herculean task 😊
I’ll explain why in a bit, but don’t worry, I will attempt to explain it 😊
Before we proceed, I need to address a few assumptions I’ve made.
When we talk about constructing a mutual fund portfolio or for that matter an equity portfolio to solve for a financial goal, we make two assumption –
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- We are covered for the risk
- We are covered for emergency
Before a person can have a portfolio of any sort, these two things should be in place.
Let me explain what I mean.
Cover for the risk – An individual faces many different kinds of risk in his/her lifetime. Risk across multiples areas of life – physical health, mental health, permanent disabilities, a prolonged state of joblessness, broken relationships, and whatnot.
While it is impossible to anticipate everything and get a cover, an individual should get a cover for two things in life – loss of life and hospitalization.
Of course, the cover comes in the form of insurance. Term insurance will ensure that your near and dear ones, your dependents are not financially burdened after your passing away.
Health insurance will ensure you don’t spend your life’s earnings to pay for hospital bills while getting treated for chronic illness.
Given this, you need to estimate the extent your family will be paid off if unfortunately, you pass away. Similarly, you need to figure out the extent of health insurance cover you need to get. Topics related to insurance are vast and have many technicalities. I won’t get into this at this point. But I want you to be aware that as an individual, the very first step in your ‘personal finance’ journey is to ensure you get cover for these two types of risks.
I want to stress that don’t buy insurance products linked to investment plans. These are not worth it.
Cover for an emergency – I’m referring to an emergency corpus here, an emergency corpus to help you navigate your tough times. Tough time could be a job loss, or it could be as simple as having enough money to replace a piece of electronic equipment at home or a medical emergency.
I understand medical emergencies are covered by health insurance but don’t take that for granted. To give you an example, in September 2020, both my parents were hit by Covid 19. When I took them to the hospital, the hospital made me pay a certain amount of money for admission and cover the initial expenses. Of course, I had an insurance cover for both of them, which later came in handy, but at that moment, I needed ready cash and needed a fairly large amount.
Or take this, for example – thanks to Covid 19, schools went online, and I suddenly had to equip the house with a printer and a laptop for my 10-year-old daughter. That was an unplanned financial expense but had to be done.
Emergencies can come in any form and can come at any time. One has to have sufficient funds, which is easily available to you when the emergency strikes. Given this, at the very initial stages of your ‘personal finance’ journey, I’d advise you to build this emergency corpus.
The question is, how much money is good enough for the emergency corpus? Different people have different opinions, but I see most of them agree to have an emergency corpus equivalent to 6 months of expense. For example, if your monthly expense is 40K, then the emergency corpus should be at least 2.4L.
But I don’t subscribe to the 6-month emergency corpus template.
Each person is different; each family is different. It would help if you sat with your family, go through different scenarios and identify a corpus amount good enough to sail your family through these tough times.
Anyway, I will make these two assumptions – that you have the basic insurance cover and have built an emergency corpus. With these things taken care of, we will now understand how to build a mutual fund portfolio.
26.2 – Financial Goal
Imagine a newly married couple. Both the husband and wife are young, say in the late ’20s, and both are working professionals. The couple aspires to buy a house of their own. Their idea of the home is a 2BHK apartment downtown, costing roughly 1.5Cr, and they give themselves a ten-year window to achieve this goal.
Or think of this situation – A 40-year-old working woman wants to accumulate money to upgrade her car over the next five years. The estimated cost of the car is 55L.
Or imagine this situation (last one, I promise) – A 21-year-old has just started working for an MNC. Wants to accumulate 20L in 8 years to fund his/her post-graduate degree in the UK.
These are all examples of a ‘financial goal’. A financial goal has three specific attributes –
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- The quantum of funds required
- The estimated time over which these funds need to be accumulated
- The current age of the person
Without these three attributes, a financial goal is incomplete.
For instance, a young working professional intends to accumulate ‘enough money’ to go to the UK for post-graduate studies in a couple of years down the line, is not a reasonable financial goal.
With the three random scenarios that I have quoted, you can imagine how diverse each person’s financial aspirations are. No two families or humans will have the same requirement (apart from retirement maybe). Financial goals are extremely diverse and very personal to your situation.
However diverse the situation is, the good thing is that you eventually have to look at mutual funds to help you solve for the situation, well, at least in most cases.
Of course, there are other financial instruments, but nothing as versatile as mutual funds (or ETFs).
Given this, there are two ways in which I can help you understand how to build a mutual fund portfolio to solve for your financial goals –
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- Consider all sorts of life scenarios, build case studies around it, and stitch together a mutual fund portfolio to solve the given scenarios. You can then look at these scenarios, identify the one closest to your situation, and build a similar portfolio for yourself.
or
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- Help you understand the different attributes of funds from a portfolio perspective so that you can identify what sort of funds to pick given the situation.
The difference between the two approaches is like this – assume you like savoury dishes, so I give you 20 different dishes to try. You taste each one of these and dishes and finally figure which one to eat fully.
Alternatively, I familiarize you with ten basic savoury ingredients. Once familiar, you can use these ingredients in the right measure to quickly prepare a savoury dish to satisfy your taste buds.
I will take the second approach to build a mutual fund portfolio, and I hope this works out better.
26.3 – Mutual Fund cheat sheet
I’ve prepared this Mutual fund cheat sheet for you. The sheet summarizes all the key attributes of the different mutual funds we have discussed. Please click on the image to enlarge and get a better view.
The table is simple, has few basic information –
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- Fund type
- Category
- The main constituents of the fund
- Expected CAGR – as much as I hate it, I’ve included this 😊
- The minimum holding period – the minimum holding period for the fund if you were to invest in it. Not that you cannot invest in the fund and hold it for lesser than the minimum holding period, it is just that if you do so, recovering from a drawdown could be difficult.
- Financial Goal – The kind of financial goal the fund can be used for, more on this later.
- ‘Special remark’ – Things you need to be aware.
I’d suggest you keep this table handy. This table will help you craft a mutual fund portfolio for most of the financial goals.
Before we proceed further, we need to understand an important aspect of the number of funds one should have in a portfolio.
I’ve seen investors with 10-12 mutual funds in their portfolio for a single financial goal. Usually, their portfolio will contain 3-4 large-cap fund, another 3-4 mid-cap funds, few random debt funds, and perhaps a hybrid fund tucked in.
This is a classic example of a messy, directionless, and a pointless portfolio.
Ideally, you need to have non-overlapping mutual funds to avoid redundancy.
Let me explain, assume you have the following three large-cap funds in your portfolio –
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- Axis Bluechip fund
- Mirae Asset Large cap fund
- Canara Rob Blue chip Equity.
All three funds are good, but does that mean all the three funds should belong in your portfolio. Take a look at the top 10 holdings across all the three funds –
As you can see, nearly half the portfolio across all these funds are similar. All funds hold HDFC Bank to the extent of 10%. If you extend this across all the portfolio holdings, I’m sure the common overlap would be a much bigger number. Given this, the performance across these funds also tend to be similar. The economic/market factors that impact these funds will be similar, and the volatility will be similar.
Hence, as an investor, if you buy multiple funds of the same type across different AMCs, then you need to realize that there is no significant advantage in you doing so.
Of course, the only argument for having two funds of the same type is AMC diversification, where you split your money across two different AMCs. You can probably do this if you worry that one of the AMCs may fold during the tenure of your investment.
The better way to do this is to see if you can include funds from different AMC, such as a large-cap fund from HDFC and a mid-cap fund from DSP, where you diversify across AMCs and market capitalizations.
As an investor, build your portfolio so that the overlap between funds is minimum. Eliminating overlap is very tough; the idea is to ensure its minimum. Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly.
26.4 – Portfolio, by the method of elimination
Let us revisit the scenarios we looked at earlier and see how the table can craft a mutual fund portfolio.
Case 1 – A newly married couple, aspires to buy an apartment, estimated at 1.5Cr in 10 years. Both of them work, hence can save 30K each, every month.
We have the following data –
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- Savings per month – 30K each
- Target corpus – 1.5Cr
- Time available – 10 Years
- Age – Young can afford to take financial risks in life.
Given this, let us try and arrive at the portfolio by the method of elimination. I find the elimination technique quite powerful; if not for anything, the technique helps us avoid the wrong fund for the given financial goal.
Alright, with ten years’ time frame, we know that investing in debt is not required, so let us eliminate the debt category.
When I say debt is not required, I mean not required as the main investment fund. Let me get back to this in a bit. Debt has another role to play here.
The focus is clearly on Equity as the category. Within Equity as a category, we have a list of schemes available, which we need to start eliminating –
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- Large & Midcap – may not work, since most of these ‘Large & Midcap funds’ are mid-cap stocks anyway.
- Small-cap funds – These are risky, volatile. Of course, ten years is a good enough period for this fund, but I’d personally avoid given the quantum of volatility involved in these funds.
- Multi cap funds – These are again qazi mid, and small-cap stocks, may as well stick to a straight forward mid-cap fund.
- Focused fund – Concentrated bets. Highly dependent on fund manager skills. If the fund’s investment turns out to be a mistake, the realization may come in a bit too late.
- Thematic funds are sector dependent; if the call on sector goes wrong, the fund will take forever to recover.
- ELSS funds – Useless one needs to save on taxes as well.
- Index funds – While this is a great option, somehow, a strict 10-year period may not do justice for these funds. These funds are best used for hyper long-term financial goals like retirement.
Given the rationale, we can eliminate all the above funds, which leaves us with the following options –
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- Large-cap fund
- Mid-cap fund
- Value fund
I’d further eliminate the value fund due to the uncertainties involved in unlocking value stocks. Hence, the best option for the couple is to invest in a large-cap and mid-cap stock.
They both can choose a fund each across both these categories and start their investment journey. Do recall we have discussed how to select an equity mutual fund in the previous chapters.
The easiest way to invest the funds would be a systematic investment plan (SIP) in the selected mutual funds every month.
So how do the numbers stack up assuming a CAGR of 10%? Take a look at the calculation table below. Note, this is a not the entire table, it is just a part for you to get the idea –
I’ve assumed a CAGR of 10% for both large-cap fund and mid-cap fund, of course, we can argue endlessly on how conservative/aggressive this return percentage is, but it would be a waste of time for both of us.
As you can see, the couple accumulates 1.21Crs, which is quite close to the target funds over the 10-year window. A bank loan can plug in the deficit (which is not much).
Now, here is another aspect to consider. What if, as an when you approach the target year, the market starts to fall and you lose the accumulated wealth? This is a possibility; after all, no one can time the market.
One way to deal with this is to start to shift the corpus funds to a debt fund as and when you start approaching the target year. For example, from the 8th year onwards, they can withdraw the accumulated funds and park it in a debt fund. There are many different ways to do this –
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- Withdrawl can be made on a monthly/quarterly/semi-annual basis.
- The funds withdrawn, can go into an ultra short term fund since we only hold the funds for 3 years.
The idea here is to protect the corpus from a sequence risk, where in the market takes a hit as and when the target year approaches.
Of course, this is a rather simplified approach, but I’d like to keep it simple and not over complicate it.
You may ask if this is a ‘fill it, shut it’ approach with no intervention during the investment tenure. Yes, this is largely a fill it and shut it approach. But once in a way (like once a year), one should track the fund’s performance and take a call on continuity.
Apart from that, you need to keep these two points in mind –
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- Use conservative estimates when dealing with returns in personal finance. If in the end, the returns turn out better, then it is good for you. Consider yourself lucky.
- You need to understand that the equity returns are lumpy and not smooth and steady like a bank FD returns. You may have no returns for a long time, but the bulk of the returns will come in a short burst of times. Unfortunately, no one can time this short burst, hence the need to SIP and give it adequate time.
Let us look at another case and see how elimination would help us build a Mutual fund portfolio.
Case 2 – A 40-year-old person wants to save 25L over the next eight years for the kids’ overseas post-graduate degree. Monthly savings available for this goal is Rs.20,000/-
Since the period is less than ten years, there is no point looking at 100% equity investment. The plan would largely involve debt, maybe a small equity portion.
Ok, to begin with, let us keep Equity aside for now and look at the rest of the funds.
Hybrid funds like the Arbitrage fund may be a decent option, but something like a balanced fund may not be.
Debt funds are a good option –
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- Liquid funds and overnight funds won’t fit the bill since we are talking about eight-plus years
- All funds with Macaulay duration of fewer than two years can be ignored since these are relatively shorter maturity funds.
- Money market funds too can be ignored since the investor can take on a slightly higher degree of risk
- A short-duration fund is an option
- Credit risk is risky so that they can be avoided.
- Corporate bonds fund is an option
- GILTS won’t fit the bill either.
This leaves us with three good options –
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- Arbitrage Funds
- Short duration funds
- Corporate bond funds.
Investment in corporate bond fund requires a greater degree of involvement from the investor. If one decides to invest in it, then a regular review the scheme’s portfolio is mandatory. If this is not possible, then the only two options to invest in the short duration fund and the arbitrage fund. Probably the person can split the investment equally in both these funds.
One thing to note, just because the investment is in a short duration fund and arbitrage fund, it does not mean that a period review of the fund’s portfolio is not necessary. Yes, the short duration fund may not need as much scrutiny as a corporate bond fund, but it does require you to look at, at least once a quarter. The arbitrage fund too as the portfolio contains a debt portion.
I’ll spare you the maths here, but if you assume a 7% CAGR, the target funds can be accumulated over the given timeframe.
Since this is anyway a longish tenure, i.e. 8 years, one can also consider a little equity exposure. Maybe 20-25% of the monthly SIP can go into a large-cap fund.
Let us take up one last case – You’ve received a lump sum amount, say Rs.50L from the sale of an asset, maybe real estate. You want to use this amount and start a retirement corpus. However, you are worried about the current state of markets and fear that the current market level is unstainable.
Retirement is a hyper long-term financial goal. By hyper long term, I mean 20 plus years but may vary based on your current age.
Here is a plan assuming you are not comfortable investing the lump sum right away.
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- Invest the lump sum in a fund which offers capital protection (to the best possible extent)
- Withdraw chunks of it every month and invest that into the designated fund for retirement
- Continue doing do so till you deploy the entire capital
In this case, you can decide to invest 50L over 3/6/12 months, based on your comfort.
Assuming, six months, then every month you will invest –
5,000,000/6
= 8.3L.
The question is, what is the choice of funds for such a plan of action.
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- We need a carrier fund, which will hold the capital, provide adequate capital protection over the next six months.
- The only funds which fulfil the purpose of the carrier funds are – the overnight or liquid fund.
- Identify a target fund for retirement. Recall, retirement is a hyper long-term financial goal so the funds you pick for this purpose should fit this bill
- The best funds for retirement (in my opinion) are Index funds, large-cap funds, or just a balanced fund.
So the set up here would look like this –
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- Park the entire 50L in a liquid fund to redeem the entire amount over six months
- Redeem 8.3L every month from the liquid fund over the next six months
- Invest the funds redeemed funds into the retirement fund – say a Balanced Fund and a Midcap fund. Or an Index fund and a mid-cap fund.
- If you are choosing two funds, the funds can be split equally.
Do remember, once you invest in these funds, this is largely on autopilot mode with no frequent intervention required from your end. However, you may need to look at the following –
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- Yearly review of performance – ensure your fund is not lagging its peers and behaving more volatile compared to the rest of the category
- You may want to rebalance based on your risk appetite, wherein you book some profits from the equity funds and deploy the same in debt funds.
Apart from the above two, you are fairly set. Please don’t attempt anything else, and let the market do what it is supposed to do.
I’ll stop the case studies here since it is impossible to cover all sorts of cases. But I hope this chapter has given you a good starting point for designing your mutual fund portfolio.
I’d love to dig deeper on this topic of goal-based investing, but at this stage, I’m not sure if I will take that route. If you do want me to do that, share your comments below.
Over the next 2 or 3 chapters, I’d like to discuss the Sovereign gold bonds (SGB), NPS, and perhaps a bit about asset allocation, and wrap up this module.
Key takeaways from this chapter
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- The first step in personal finance is to ensure you have health and term insurance
- 2nd most important aspect is to ensure you have an emergency corpus
- The financial goal is defined by the amount of corpus required and the time frame available to accumulate the corpus
- One of the easier ways to build a mutual fund portfolio is by using the method of elimination
- Always use a conservative approach and tone down your return expectations
- Try and avoid having multiple funds of the same subcategory, have a minimum non-overlapping portfolio instead
- A common goal for all us to have a retirement corpus
- Once a portfolio is set, a yearly review of the funds is more than sufficient
- Do not over complicate mutual fund portfolio construct
Hi,
There was supposed to be a chapter on ETFs after chapter on Monday index funds. Is it still coming?
Will try and add ETFs here.
I liked this chapter a lot, cleared a lot of doubts for me. You took an example of a 21 year old starting out in an MNC. I could relate to hat given I am in that situation only. But I can’t help myself to find a suitable goal for myself over the short period or the long ones. How would you suggest an investment portfolio for a person without a far sighted goal.
Thanks.
If not for anything, retirement is a goal 🙂
Hi Karthik… your work is unparalleled and your cracking complex topics to simple is amazing. It would be really helpful if you can take few more case studies on – goal based investment ( those 3 cases provided good insight and I was able to relate with them) and thank you for this module, esp this chapter. Best wishes to you , your parents and your family.. stay safe & healthy
Thanks for the kind words, Dr.Piyush!
I’d like to deep deeper on goal-based investing. Still evaluating 🙂
Thank you so much Karthik for your detailed analysis. It helps me a lot on constructing a mutual fund portfolio. Could you please also write one chapter about how to choose best term insurance and how much should cover?
Thanks Arun, I will try and include this as well.
Yet again another great chapter. The cheat sheet is immensely helpful (especially the special remark column).
When you say – digging deeper into the goal-based investment strategy, do you plan to go into overall portfolio building? (incorporating other financial instruments) or consider more different scenarios in the context of mutual funds? Both are helpful, although I have a slight preference for the former.
There might be a typo in the article: 50L/6 = 833.3K (instead of 83.3K)
Yes, consider more scenarios and head in a guided path sorts. Thanks, it is 8.3L, will fix that 🙂
Hi Karthik. Great module yet again, thanks for this! Had a quick doubt – ‘Eliminating overlap is very tough; the idea is to ensure its minimum. Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly.’
Can you please explain/elaborate on the last sentence? Not too clear around why the costs increase if you select one AMC over multiple. Essentially, if I have 20 K, why is investing all of it into AMC A Large Cap a better idea, compared to 10 K in AMC A Large Cap & 10 K in AMC B Large Cap, from a cost perspective? (assuming there is significant overlap between the two funds)
If the portfolio overlap is significantly higher, then there is no point in owning two funds right? The returns would be similar. It is like buying two bottles of water, when you actually need just one. Not sure if that was too clear 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Thank you so much again for this entire encyclopedia of investing, Just an update that this month I have started two SIPs in AXIS BLUE CHIP(large-cap) & PARAG PARIKH (mid-cap), After reading the previous chapters & as per your analysis methods, I couldn’t resist myself to wait for this chapter to come, I chose these two for my long term goal i.e Retire early with the max corpus.
After reading this module I am happy that I have added the right funds.
I just missed the very first two key points in my PERSONAL FINANCE i.e Health & term Insurance. (I will add this as well at the earliest)
Will be really happy if you make a brief module on how to select the best Health & term insurance.
Thank you again.
Thanks, Rohit! I’m glad you liked it. Yes, the first 2 steps are very critical. PLease don’t miss doing that 🙂
Hi Karthik,
I was starting to think why a new chapter hadn’t been uploaded a few days back and now I understand why it took you some time. This really was a herculean task I can understand. Yet you delivered it in the best possible way. Kudos 🙂
In case 2, if i’m not wrong, you’re talking about SWP and STP. Is it available on Coin by Zerodha or do we have to wait for some time for it to be available?
Thanks, Ajay!
Yes, it is indeed a SWP and STP that’s at play. We are aware of it, and will plug it in Coin soon.
Please try to add ETF’s and Insurance chapters in this module.
Wishing you, your parents and your family good health. Stay Strong. Stay Safe.
Thanks, will certainly add ETFs. Thanks for the wishes. Wishing you the same 🙂
Thank you so much for all these articles. They are a wealth of knowledge. I decided to switch to Coin only because of these. Can you also include a excel download for your cheat sheet please ?
Happy to note that Sachin. Will try and upload the cheat sheet.
Hi Karthik!
Thank you so much for providing such important content. The more I read here the more the eagerness comes to learn about these topics. The simplicity with which you explain these complex things is remarkable. I really look forward to some more topics on goal-based investing. This will helps us to broaden our thought.
Also, if for 10+ years goal multi-cap funds are not very suitable then for what type of goals we can use multi-cap funds?
Thanks for the kind words, Ashutosh.
Most multi-cap funds are mid-cap funds in disguise, so you are rather better off with a mid-cap fund, unless you find a good multi-cap fund which balances all the market capitalizations well.
This post is quite helpful and relatable to my current situation.
In addition, I was also thinking future perspective. Once someone gets retired, do you recommend to park retirement corpus(SIPs from large cap, mid cap, small cap) to any of debt fund and then gradually offload to fd/rd? Or simply withdraw these corpus systematically (swp) from their respective fund.
The withdrawal should be phased, as in, as and when you start to move towards retirement, start moving funds from equity to mid-cap funds.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for this post. I would like to know if you prefer direct stock investment rather than MF for ultra long/long term goals? Say if I am able to spend an hour every week on this. Or will the risks be too high?
If you can spend an hour every week, then perhaps you should look at the stock portfolio as well.
More on goal-based investing will definitely be a welcome addition to this module.
Thanks. Considering that.
I am 31 yrs old and I have never invested in MFs. However, I want to start now that I have gotten married and all my existing investments are in debt related instruments. I want to start with equity investments. Is there a link which gives me the list of all MFs?
I am thinking that once I have a list, I can start collating all the data and for different metrics, prioritize the ones which are good on all the metrics discussed in your articles and spread out my investments (some lumpsum and some SIP based on my goals) across the best ones based on the analysis. Do you recommend this approach?
Yes, that works. But I’m not sure about the list link though.
Thank you so much for this chapter sir !!
Enjoyed every bit of it. Waiting for future chapters
Thanks, Vaishakh.
Give an specific chapter on sovereign gold bond.
Will try and do that.
Hi Karthik,
I hope your parents are doing good now. The surly blessing you earned from your good work paid you.
loved reading these chapters. this chapter is a sort of application of the rest of the chapters. 🙂
will love to hear more examples of scenarios for example: for an unmarried young guy who wants by flat in five years in Bangalore,
or a person who can invest 5k SIP.
and very very happy new to you and your family. 🙂
finding you and Varsity was the best thing that happened to me in 2020.
Thanks
-Ganesh
Thanks, Ganesh. They are doing good now and wishing you a happy new year:)
Covering all scenarios will be really tough, hence the table. I will try and discuss more goal-based investing.
It will be more helpful if discussed about child higher education after 10+ years and girl child marriage after 20+ years
Thanks and Best Regards
Sure, will probably develop more content on goal based investing.
How about cyclical or disruption based thematic funds for medium term? What about some exposures in international equity funds ?
I’m not sure about these international funds, these are relatively new. Have to research more on these.
Hi Karthik,
i have outstanding principal of 10L in housing loan and also equivalent corpus to close the loan. With current EMI i will be closing the loan in another 3.3 years. Is it better to close the loan now with corpus or invest it in MF and continue the EMI?
Please advise
This is a very tricky situation, Anandh. I think it always makes sense to reduce or close the liability first and then build assets. I’d probably do that.
This article really helped me to tie my investment goals to the right financial instruments. It would also be very helpful if you could add another chapter on how to rebalance the portfolio.
Sure, Ayushi. I will try and do that.
Hi Kartik,
Thanks for these modules. I am currently 22-years-old and I’m just starting my corporate life with an MNC. With a goal to buy a house after 15 years, should I blindly invest my savings in large-cap and mid-cap mutual funds?
Also, please discuss other goal-based scenarios for young people like me.
Thankyou.
Abhinandan, that’s right. I’d suggest a large and mid-cap fund, as long as you are sure about the 15 years period.
Hello Karthik Sir. I am a third-year engineering student. I have been reading the Varsity blog since my first year. I have enjoyed it thoroughly and learned a lot. Thanks a lot for all your efforts!
I am very keen to know how you learned all these concepts and gained so much knowledge. It would be great if you could share your story of learning and experimentation.
Sumedh, I’m glad you like the content on Varsity. Like you, I’ve been learning and experimenting as well. This is a continuous and life long journey 🙂
Have gone through all the topics, It’s amazing to see , how can we iterate such complex things in such simple manner… Thanks for the financial literacy that you’re providing in best way( I reckon 🙂).
One query apart from this:
I’ve been investing in mutual funds from past 2 years but I’ve not gone through all factors which defines good returns, especially I’ve picked some funds which have high expense ratio which can make huge difference in my returns in long terms, So how to deal with this situation because i also don’t want to close investment as it’s 2 years tenure and if I’ll start again with low expense ratio one, then I’ll have to wait for another 10 years which increase my goal time, OR
I can transfer funds … I don’t know…
Please suggest a best way
Thanks
Sahil, the only way to deal with it is to rectify as soon as possible. Imagine you let this run for another few years…only to realise that its a much bigger corpus (problem) to deal with 🙂
Hi Karthik,
I have question regarding addition of the surplus amount I have with me to a particular fund:
Suppose I have a SIP of Rs 2000 on a certain MF and after a raise I decide to increase the SIP to Rs 3000 to reach my goals faster or maybe into a retirement fund, well does the MFs allow us to do that and if not then how should we approach this scenario?
Secondly if I have to create a new SIP of the extra amount everytime I want to increase the amount of the SIP, will it not eat up my returns, by the fees charged?
Thank you so much for this chapter, was waiting for it a long time.
Yes, you can easily do this. If you are using Coin, simply edit the amount and its done. No, it won’t eat up the returns.
I have doubt in below lines in above article:
“Eliminating overlap is very tough; the idea is to ensure its minimum. Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly.”
How multiple funds in same category will increase costs?
I understand Expense ratio in same category are in percentage so either way you are paying one or other AMC .
Think of it as paying twice for the same service 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Thanks a lot for these materials. I have never seen such a structured curriculum to learn about MF. It gave me a clearer picture of how my mutual fund investments should be aligned to my goals. When can we expect a chapter on NPS and gold bonds?
Thanks, Anandh. I’m trying to get a few guest chapters asset allocation and smart-beta funds. Hopefully after that 🙂
Hello Sir,
Thank you for the guidance. Can you please shade some light on the international funds?
Will try and add some content on it.
Hi karthik!!
Hope you and your family are doing good.
* What should one do if an individual wants to invest in MF in SIP and wants to increase the monthly SIP once in a year, eg., to invest 5k every month for year 1 and invest 10k for the next year and would like to increase the monthly SIP year by year?
* Can one invest irregular amount every month in SIP? Like 5k in month 1, 4k in month 2, 6k in month 3?
Thanks for the one stop for financial education- varsity❤
Thanks, Ganesh, we are all doing good. Hope the same with you as well.
1) The increase will happen if there is an overall increase in income, else this won’t be possible
2) Yup, you can. But its good to stick to a fixed amount as it helps you get more committed to a cause.
Sir if I need to pick large cap fund should I need to go through all large cap funds to pick one
Yeah, end of the day you need to select what seems right for you.
Great chapter, great work, great help to start one’s investment journey.
One question: once we start ivesting for a long term goal of say 8 to 10 years, should we book profit periodically or should we do so only when there is requirement?
YOu should plan your exit in a phased manner, Manoj. That’s always a better strategy to avoid sequence risk.
It is very important to have a chapter on NPS as it can potentially save a lot of tax for salaried people (if going for NPS Tier – I) which serves as a good retirement solution with tax benefits and EEE status. The Tier 2 account of NPS acts as a mutual fund / liquid fund with a negligible expense ratio and can be used to park money for an emergency in the asset class of your choice as there is the freedom to allocate funds between Equity, Government Bonds and Corporate Bonds in your desired ratio.
It was earlier exclusively for government employees but has now been opened up for all citizens. I hope a separate chapter on NPS is added to the Personal Finance Module in Zerodha Varsity, as it will benefit a lot of people who might be unaware of it.
Will certainly add a chapter on NPS, Saurav.
Hi Karthik,
I hope you are doing!
I see in the cheat sheet that you mentioned ELSS as pointless unless for tax saving purposes!
could you please explain why you are not in favor of ELSS?
Thanks
-Ganesh
Useless since you can invest in a regular large-cap fund without the lock in obligation 🙂
Hi Karthik,
This whole series of Personal Finance that you have uploaded is AMAZING. I have read quite a bit on personal finance before but I have never read such an extensive analysis and beautiful articulation. Great work!
Sincerely thank you for this series! 🙂
Looking forward to more articles from you! If you have a personal blog/write regularly on social media etc please plug those links. Would love to follow your writing!
Thanks for the kind words, Rohit. I’m glad you liked the content here. All my writing is here, on Varsity itself. I’m on twitter, @karthikrangappa
Hi Sir,
As you are stating ELSS is pointless, what investment instrument one has to choose for saving Tax?
will NPS will be a better option(has Extra 50k exemption)?
or do you think we should not mix investment with tax saving?
Thanks
Ganesh, ELSS makes sense only for tax saving, not otherwise 🙂
Great writing and analysis. cheat sheet is a life saver. On a personal finance note, one thing i want to ask, which one is better to park money for 6-12 month, NPS tire II or Debt fund? as the NPS – G sector returns over 8% last year, is it also covers capital protection or not.
Neither, I’d suggest you look at liquid/money market or at best an ultra short term fund.
Sir can we expect next module, Financial Modelling in next 2-3 months
Thank you!
Yes, at least I will get started on it.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for the article. Really helpful.
Are SIPs in debt fund helpful? SIP covers us for volatility which is less likely in DEBT funds.
To ask this other, is there a way SIPs help us in debt funds.
Not really Mandar. I’d use debt funds to park lumpsum and not really a SIP. I will try to get perspective from others as well.
Amazing content, waiting for more …
didn’t seem just like an article, never thought this topic too would interest me all coz of the style of writing.
Thanks again, great job
One question though what should be done if we are having more than 2 goals should the no of goals match the funds, I guess not so how do we manage this. Say for e.g goal period is 5(5L),10 (7L),18(15L) years. Risk appetite is good
Stephen, I’m glad you found the content enjoyable 🙂
Do check the later chapter on Goals, hopefully, that will give some direction. Else will be happy to discuss here.
Hello Karthik,
Thanks for the nice article.
I had invested in the “Indiabulls-ultra-short-term-fund” through the coin, but now Zerodha is saying this fund is no longer active and can not be redeemed. I didn’t find any information in AMCs official website.
I could sem fund’s AUM is increasing every month from 1783 in November to 1794 in January. How can closed fund’s AUM increase, I could notice all its investment is in TREPs CCIL. Can you share more details on what’s CCIL?
Which five mutual fund bought short term
Sorry, dint get your query. Can you please share more context?
I have not received my CRM digital copy or the same not showing on console section under account detail.
Dinesh, please contact the support for this.
Hope both your parents are ok sir. Take care and yes great work as usual.
Yes, they are. Thanks for checking 🙂
Dear Sir,
Is it feasible to convert a SIP of MF into Lumpsum or vice versa?
For example, I have 5000 rupees and I have invested it lumpsum in an MF. Now after 2 years I have regular income to invest in MF every month. So can I convert this MF into a SIP MF in order to invest more in the same MF every month? And without additional costs or fees.
If feasible, is this possible through the Coin app of Zerodha?
Yes, you can do this.
SIr can we park our emergency fund in liquid funds or would you prefer that corpus to keep in savings account or equal propotion in both
Both are ok, I’d prefer liquid funds.
Great work. Very helpful content. For most part you have considered Mutual Funds and Equity for long term wealth creation or even for parking funds. However, you have never considered gold as an investment area. Would be helpful if you could make a chapter or two on investing in gold.
Thats right, Gaurav. I’ll probably add a chapter on Gold and SGBs, maybe in part 2 🙂
Hello karthik,
Thank u so much for such content. Your modules have taken my financial knowledge from 0 to a considerably good level. 🙂
I want to relate this to myself. I am a 27 year old professional who jus got married. The first two steps that you mentioned in this module(term plan and health plan) are done. After your lessons I have decided to start a sip(thinking of starting with 25000 which I’m comfortable with) for retirement (atleast 30 years from now considering my age) and have come up with 4 funds which I would check upon once every year and step up my sip amount every year.
1. Largecap/Bluechip
2. Midcap
3. Index fund
4. Hybrid fund(jus coz it has a mix of debt)
Everyone else suggest a 75:25 allocation for equity:debt but I have not done that coz of the long time horizon.
Have I learnt and understood right? Do u think I should make any changes?
Thanks in advance.
Vignesh, congrats on two things – for your recent marriage and for making the right financial decision.
About the funds – I’d go with a combination of Largecap + Midcap or maybe Index fund with Midcap. I’d not add all 3 together since large-cap and index is an overlap. Hybrid is fine, but since you have 30 years timeframe, sticking to just Eq is also fine.
Good luck.
Hello karthik,
Thank you so much for your reply.
I feel overlap is unavoidable!. For example in my case I thought of canara robeco bluechip equity and axis midcap fund. Eventhough they are different categories there is about 30% overlap in their holdings!. I had parag parikh flexi cap as my third fund since u said hybrid is not required(also that parag parikh has international holdings as well and their risk:reward has been too good). Looks like I am able to reduce the overlap to approx 20% if I replace canara robeco with parag parikh and jus invest in 2 funds. But in this case I’m confused if it’s OK to stick to jus 2 funds for such a long horizon.🤔
Ur thoughts would be very much appreciated!🙂
I understand overlap is unavoidable, unfortunately, our market is too small. Yes, 2-3 carefully selected funds for long term is fine. Please ensure you keep track and review them at least once in 6 – 12 months.
Was an eye opener…the diff AMC with investment in same companies…omg! I am afraid to analyse my MF investment as i never knew the concept!many many thanks
Happy learning 🙂
Hi Karthik,
About 4 years back , I have just copied one of my friends’ mutual fund portfolio and started SIPs in the same. Now after reading your personal finance module and my research, I want to restructure my entire portfolio. What is the best way to do so ? Kindly suggest. I have around 10 funds in my portfolio
Can you please give an example for rebalancing ? Like how exactly do we identify when to liquidate holdings from a particular fund and move it to debt ?
Let us say you invest 50% in Eq and 50% in debt and you intend to hold this ratio. After a year, Eq has grown and now the weight is 55% and 45%, in this case you sell 5% of EQ and invest that in Debt to bring back the ratio to 50-50%.
When our MF portfolios P&L is showing green and profit making when we are doing monthly SIPs. Should we add additional funds or increase the SIPs on those MFs which are giving good returns? I am curious to know how to read this MF Portfolios page and take further investment actions.
You should just continue to keep the focus on your SIPs and the long term intent of your investments. Yes, if possible increase your SIPs over time, like once in every year maybe.
You said: Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly.
Isn’t investing 10k in HDFC bluechip and 5k each in HDFC bluechip and Axis bluechip the same. Let’s assume ER is 1% for both AMCs, 1% of 10k and 1% of (5k+5K) is the same right? How am i ending up paying extra?
Technically yes, if both have similar ER. But another way to look at it is that you are paying for the same article half and half. Why would you want to do that?
Hi Karthik,
If I have a long-term investment horizon, let say 30 years, I was wondering do mutual fund schemes run for such a long period?
Are there any MF schemes currently in the market which are this old?
What’s your opinion on such long duration investment in a single MF scheme?
I guess some of the UTI funds are quite old, not sure about the exact age. But MFs as an industry is still young in India.
Hi Karthik,
I’m a great fan of your work here at varsity! In your chapters, you have not discussed lumpsum investment in Mutual Funds. I find it intriguing and wanna see how to proceed if I had a lump sum of Rs 3 Lakh and the investment time horizon is 10 years+ How do I Filter through the various schemes via the elimination method as you had explained?
Like explained, 10+ years is good for equity. Based on your risk preference, evaluate if you want large or mid-cap. If it is large, then you may be better off with an Index fund. If it’s mid-cap, as a starting point, look for the ones which have performed well in terms of managing risk aka capture ratios. Then perhaps the rolling returns, expense ratio etc.
Sir, what is the use of debt liquid funds? I see you have put it as capital protection and “don’t chase returns”. I can achieve the same goal by keeping it in a savings account. What do I gain by putting it in debt liquid fund, even for less than a year it gives similar returns as bank savings interest.
No real difference if you as me. Maybe it is just the liquidity part, Victor. Its easy to invest and get out with liquid funds.
First and foremost, thank you for such a wonderful collection of articles.
I have one question: even after reading through all once, I think still fumble at how to allocate my wealth, which funds to buy etc.
I hear people go to financial advisors which help in managing these things. Should i actually go for some financial advisor ?
Nothing wrong with it. Go for an advisor, but do read the contents here and make sure the advisor is not taking you for a ride. As your advisor some really tough questions and ensure you are being advised the right products.
Good luck 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Personal finance taught in the best way possible. One thing that is clear to me is when my goal is for 20+ years I am better off with index funds. The problem here is we feel the need to diversify and cover the entire markets. Now with many AMCs coming out with midcap and smallcap index funds, what is your take on them?. I wanna stay invested for minimum 20-30 years hopefully…Is it OK to go with index midcap and smallcap funds as well to avoid the need to rebalance our portfolio every 6 months to 1 year. Coz the best performing active fund today might under perform the index 2 years later. Your thoughts please?
Thanks in advance.
Vignesh, I’d stay away from small-cap funds and stick to Index and probably the Nifty next 50 index fund.
Hi,
I have few funds which was started almost 7 years ago through a distributor(regular Plan), could u please explain as to how I could covert these plans to Direct and is there any tax implication in doing so?
Note: I already have an Zerodha account and have been managing few Mutual funds through coin by myself.
Vishy, you will have to sell these funds (regular) and then buy the same funds in direct mode. Unfortunately there is no other option.
Hi Karthik,
You have been doing a tremendous job of educating the general public. Thank you very much.
It would be great if you can cover health insurance as well.
Would it make sense to buy all-in-one insurance that would cover health, term, and critical illness cover?
Thanks in advance
-Maha
Yes, I will cover that in part 2 of personal finance 🙂
Thanks, Karthik for this amazing content. I have a few queries. I would be thankful if you could shed some light on that.
1. For what type of goals, we should invest in mid-cap funds and how long should we keep our money there?
2. Why are you preferring large-cap + mid-cap for a duration of 10 years instead of index + mid-cap (since index (nifty 50) is large-cap only and preferring index + mid-cap for retirement over large-cap + mid-cap? Is it because in very high duration index funds will be nearly same as large-cap but fewer fees?
3. What is the rationale behind investing in both midcap and large-cap instead of only large-cap?
4. In the 8-year example, you said that we should avoid credit risk but we are investing in corporate bonds- but those have a lot of credit risk, right?
Apologies for a whole lot of questions!
1) Any goal which can accommodate some volatility and is at least 8 – 10 yrs away. Example – vacation in Africa.
2) Larger the time frame, higher is the ability to take in volatility
3) Hopefully better returns
4) Yes, if your investment horizon is so long, you may as well get into to equity right?
Hi Karthik,
I am 3 years into my professional life and thanks to you for giving me insight into the importance of personal finance. I have accumulated a corpus of around 20 lakh. I want to get started with my investment journey. Will my case be similar to the case study of a person who got 50 lakh from the sale of a real asset (this case study is mentioned in this chapter)? Another question, what is your viewpoint of a fee-only financial planner? Do you recommend them?
Thanks,
Hitesh
Fee-only is a better option in my opinion. But make sure you pick a good one.
In Morning star website I am not able to find Risk & return, capture ratios for any of the Index funds. Is there any particular reason why it is not available? Then with what all data will I should be choosing Index funds. Please guide.
Ah not sure, Siva. But it is available as far as I know. Maybe check value research once?
Hi Karthik,
What are your views on fee-only financial planners? Do you recommend using their services or DIY approach?
Yes, but please do your due diligence before you sign up with one.
I will retire within six months time. I have accunulated Rs 5 cr as my retirement corpus in 9 mutual funds. I have ensured that I get a monthly income of Rs 1 lakh from investments in PO deposits , LIC etc.
What I plan is to consolidate my accumulation in mutual funds into a large cap , a couple of balanced funds ( Two AMC ) and a midcap fund.
I dont foresee a situation where in I have to dip into the above mutual funds atleast for another two or three years. After that wont it be better to systematically withdraw a certain percentage every month.
I have adequate health cover and no other liabilities. Please advice whether this thinking is correct especially when market is at a peak.
Yup, you can. I’d suggest you dont pull the funds for however long you can. Also, once you pull the funds to rebalance, there will be a tax angle, think about that. I’d suggest you speak to a good financial planner about this.
Hi Karthik,
wonderful content! I read the whole content sitting 3 days at stretch, but have book marked it, as I know I have to come back and look again! Can’t thank you enough, for writing such difficult subject in an easy style so that any novice can understand.
Actually, I have one question: for shorter time frame (5-6 years) VR suggests Equity saving funds, if you have some Lumpsum (10 L) or so. What is your take on that? Are equity saving funds better option than FDs? I know, normally Debt funds are compared with FD, but just wanted to know. I have about 25 L in FDs? what is better option to invest that, if I need the money 6 years later for my Child’s education?
Thank you
Aparna, thanks for letting me know. I’m glad you liked the content.
EQ savings is decent option, but its just that you need to be aware that its not entirely risk free. There are risks involved. If you want your funds to be fully safe, then nothing beats FDs. But based on the risks you are willing to take on, you can consider other things like short, medium term funds. Since you have 6 years, I’m inclined towards maybe short to medium term funds. Please do check with an advisor once.
Btw, FDs cannot be compared to debt funds. Debt funds are risky, FDs are not 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Thank you very much for your answer. So, I guess leaving this money in FD is a better option. I’ll try to check and compare some short to medium term Funds.
thanks again.
Sure, please do your research, don’t take my word for it 🙂
Hello Karthik, Thanks a ton for the amazing content you have been posting so far. I am an avid reader of Varsity and I learnt most of the finance related topics from it. Heartfelt gratitude for all the hard work you and your team at Zerodha/Varsity have put in. I have a request to make a chapter on the idea of investing in smallcase as part of the personal finance rather than MF or may be both. Please try to fulfil the request. Thanks in advance 🙂
Thanks, Shivakeerthan. I’m glad you liked Varsity and the contents here 🙂
I’ll try and include smallcase, I avoided thinking that it may come across as a biased opinion 🙂
Thanks Karthik. Looking forward to it 🙂
Good luck!
Hi,
I want to start an sip for paying health insurance premium for my parents yearly (around INR 50000) .
What is the closest mutual fund i can choose ?
I am thinking short term debt, liquid funds.
I’d suggest liquid funds 🙂
Hey, why can’t I see this module in the app?
We are working on illustrations, will be up soon.
Sir very well work done by you and your team , i can’t believe i have come so far to these chapter its totally engaging, keep the good work up, thanks a lot sir….
Happy reading!
In the shared MF cheat sheet, for debt fund it’s mentioned not to chase return. Then why should we invest in debt fund not just keep it in saving account ?
Chasing returns in a debt fund implies you are taking on higher risk. The usual agenda with a debt fund is to safeguard capital with returns slightly higher than SB accounts.
Hi Karthik,
I have taken 3 ELSS fund Canara , Quant and Mirare and 1 Edleswisee Dynamic Hybrid. I’m looking at wealth creation and tax saving for a house. I’m in my late 30’s and would like your opinion on my portfolio.
Why 3 ELSS fundsm Anamika?
I’m a first time investor so I have distributed 5k Sip in these 3 funds.
Good luck, Anamika!
Which funds should I choose to diversify my portfolio? Based on my requirement that I want to buy a house in next 5-7 years. How much sip and which funds to choose
For 5-7 years, I’d suggest sticking to short/medium term debt. If its 7, then maybe a large cap EQ will also help.
You have a gift when it comes to simplifying a complex topic – a dreaded one as such
Ah yes , would love to see you cover more examples which would be helpful for a complete novice like myself . Also wanted to ask, for something as silly as buying a lakh rupee Laptop say within 1 month or plan an overseas vacation after 3 months , what should the portfolio look like, what should the starting investment amount- calculation should be for a student with no income source other than pocket money ?? its short term -so debt maybe ? I’m really being dumb here , but would really appreciate your help on this
Thanks for the kind words 🙂
Since the goal is short term, no point risking it with Equity. Hence liquidbees or any super short term debt. Perhaps arbitrage funds as well.
when you say a yearly review is required and something about rebalancing – could you please cover these topics in a separate article?
Yes, will do that in Part 2 of personal finance.
Hi Sir,
I am Subhadeep, 35 years old, working in a private organization. I am a late starter into the equity investment space and your writing is true gem to make me realize the importance of having a Goal and start disciplined investment towards it. Thanks to you, I now have four prominent investment objectives set against which I am going to start invest from January’2022. However, I need some clarifications on the same and hoping that you could help and advice.
Goals:
1. Retirement – Retirement Age: 58 | Tenure: 23 years | Corpus Required: 9CR (Life Expectancy till 80 Years and considering 6% inflation on Yearly expense of 6L) |
a. Currently Debt heavy as very little exposure to equity as of now.
b. Wanted to have 50:50 as Equity to Debt ratio. Looks to me impossible to meet this criteria.
c. Avenues in place:
i. EPF (8.5% ROI) – Will accumulate to 2.5CR if I consider 5% YOY increment henceforth.
ii. NPS – 10% of Basic Payment [75% Equity, 15% GOI Bond, 10% Corporate Bond] (10% CAGR) – Will accumulate to 2CR if I consider 5% YOY increment henceforth.
iii. ESOPS – Will accumulate to approximate 80L if I stay back till my retirement age.
iv. Gratuity – Will accumulate to 20L
d. Avenues Opting for:
i. Equity MF (11% CAGR after LTCG) – I am planning to start a SIP starting with 15K and then step it up with 5% YoY. As per my calculation it will eventually give me 2.5CR
ii. NPS [Fixed 50K/Year] (10% CAGR) – Will accumulate to 50L
e. MF Fund Selected:
i. HDFC Index Fund Nifty 50 Plan – Direct Plan : 7K contribution
ii. UTI Nifty Next 50 Index Fund – Direct Plan: 8K contribution
2. Kid’s Graduation – Tenure: 15 Years | Corpus Required: 80L (Inflation adjusted @6%)
a. Avenues Opting for:
i. Equity MF (10% CAGR after LTCG) – I am planning to start a SIP starting with 18.8K . As per my calculation it will eventually give me 78L
b. MF Selected:
i. Canara Robeco Emerging Equities Fund – Direct Plan : 9.8K contribution
ii. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund – Direct Plan : 9K contribution
3. Kid’s Post Graduation – Tenure: 19 Years | Corpus Required: 1 CR (Inflation adjusted @6%)
a. Avenues in place:
i. Sukanya Samridhi Yojana (7.6% ROI) – 50K/year with 2% step-up YoY. This will accumulate around 24L
b. Avenues Opting for:
i. Equity MF (11% CAGR after LTCG) – I am planning to start a SIP starting with 9K . As per my calculation it will eventually give me 70L
c. MF Selected:
i. Mirae Asset Emerging Bluechip Fund – Direct Plan : 9K contribution
4. Kid’s Marriage -Tenure: 23 Years | Corpus Required: 75L (Inflation adjusted @6%)
a. Avenues Opting for:
i. Equity MF (12% CAGR after LTCG) – I am planning to start a SIP starting with 5.2K . As per my calculation it will eventually give me 75L
b. MF Selected:
i. UTI Flexi Cap Fund – Direct Plan : 5.2K contribution
I am a moderate risk taker; since the investment tenure is long I opted for all Equity MF. Now here are my questions.
1. Since I have opted for all equity MF portfolio, at what point I should do rebalancing for capital preservation?
2. Is it better to have one portfolio for all these goals or different portfolio against each goal is recommended? As you can see I have selected different AMC on the same fund category which will be changed if one portfolio is recommended.
3. AUM for Mirae Asset Emerging Bluechip Fund, Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund, UTI Flexi Cap Fund is on very high end, I am kind of unsure if I should bet on these funds for long term; would appreciate your view on this.
4. When should an investor change a fund house? What are the red flag to understand that the fund is underperforming?
5. If a fund needs to be changed due to underperformance what is the best way? Is redeeming the whole amount, paying LTCG and then start a STP to a new fund a good strategy?
6. Does the above plan makes sense or you think some tinkering is required?
I would like to thank you again for all the knowledge you have been sharing and hope to get your kind view on my case.
Thanks,
Subhadeep
Subhadeep, I’m glad you liked the content. As much as I’d like to help you with your case, I wont be because I’m not a registered financial planner or advisor. I’d request you to find a fee-only advisor in India and talk to them. I found this list for you to find the right advisor – https://freefincal.com/list-of-fee-only-financial-planners-in-india/
Thanks and I hope you understand my perspective 🙂
Awesome articles. Was always scared of keeping the hard earned money anywhere but bank sb or fd. Going through your articles only makes me more confident and also makes me feel that I am probably a lot late to this. I wish we were taught this in school/college.
Also waiting for the part 2 of personal finance. Wanted to understand how we go about monitoring and rebalancing our portfolio.
I have a question though.
All the scenarios discussed here need to have some goals. Let’s say someone who has already retired and has received some retirement corpus. They want to grow this money for say next 10/20 years.
In such cases, would the scenario that you discussed in this chapter of “getting a lumpsum from the sale of an asset like real estate” apply here?
Thanks, Anish. Glad you liked the content 🙂
I’ll try and start work on PF Part 2 later this year. I’m currently working on the financial modelling module.
The scenario you mentioned – well, the goal is what you’ve stated, to grow the retirement corpus. But you need to plan this carefully as the person has retired and capital safety is important.
The scenario may or may not apply, based on the age and circumstances of the person.
Hi Karthik,
Thank you for taking such big efforts to educate everyone on Personal Finance. It is helping me to cut the clutter in mutual funds.
Can you also share some good resources on term life insurance and factors to consider while selecting one?
Thanks, Parag. Glad you liked the content here. I do intend to cover insurance etc, maybe in the 2nd part of Personal finance.
Hi Karthik. You have a unique way to explain complex topics in layman’s language. Thanks for all your writings.
I have an account on Zerodha, and am finalising my plans to shift my existing MFs from conventional broker to Coin. My query is an extension of the example you gave in Case 3
For the GOAL of wealth creation…
while investing a lump sum of 50L in a Carrier fund, with the plan of later shifting into a target fund,
1. What is the recommended period over which this shift should happen as STPs, for Goal of Wealth creation (retirement corpus)? would this be like 15 or 20yrs later…
2. If this is to happen over 5 years or say 7 yrs or more, which Debt MF Category would you recommend as a Carrier Fund for this duration? (for 6months in the case example, you have recommended Liquid/overnight Debt fund)
Will be grateful for your inputs,
Regards,
1) Satish, personally I was in a similar situation in Jan 2020 and I got stuck 🙂 I wish I had made the transition earlier. But having said that, try to deploy the funds in target funds in say 1-1.5 yrs max. Once invested in the target funds, stay invested for a long time
2) Given 1.5 yrs target, I’d suggest something like a liquid or an arbitrage fund. Even short-term debt is a decent option.
Good luck!
In section 80c, there is ELSS and Mutual Fund for examption seperately,
My question is if i invest in BLUECHIP Mutual Fund(instead of ELSS), can i get tax examption for 1.5lac according to 80c?
No, tax exemption is only for ELSS funds.
Hi Karthik,
Thank you for a very informative chapter. Appreciate it! 🙂
I have a question though. From the chapter it seems that you are not a big fan of ELSS funds and recommend them only for tax saving purposes. Why is that?
For eg. – I have been investing in the Axis long term Equity fund for quite some time now (SIP of course) and it serves a dual purpose for me: Save tax and generate decent returns. In fact this is one of the 3 funds in my retirement portfolio (I plan to retire in 32 years). The fund’s fundamentals are quite strong with a good track record for 8 years.
Is there anything I am missing?
Akshay, its just that these funds are at a higher expense ratio, while offering nothing different apart from tax-saving benefits. You may as well invest in non-ELS based funds.
Karthik, yes I see it now. The axis long term equity fund although currently has an ER of 0.74, there was a time when it had breached 1.2.
I strongly feel that ER (for Direct plans as well) is very high in our country say compared to their US counterparts (even accounting for the fact that more of the US pop invests in their market). Eagerly waiting for Zerodha to launch their own line of Mutual funds and disrupt the AMC space. 🙂
Anyway, happy weekend!
We are waiting too 🙂
Hi sir,
I have emergency fund which is there in bank.
In which asset class i should invest this amount so that :
– I should get more return than bank to beat INFLATION.
– It should be liquid ( if i need money, i can take it in max one day).
can you please give some advice sir ?
Sujit, take a look at the arbitrage funds.
Appreciate the efforts to produce such a quality content, while still keeping it interesting!
With the NPS (National Pension Scheme) coming in, you would be well aware, (post retirement) government employees will be required to commit 40% of their accumulated wealth in retirement solutions/MFs.
Post retirement, the focus of the employee would (most likely) shift from wealth creation to regular income. Can you elucidate upon such Retirement solutions/Funds which will provide the employees with regular income?
Regards,
Naval, will try and put up content on this in Part 2.
Hi Sir, you were talking about systematically withdrawing our funds when we are reaching our target and placing it in a more stable funds like debt funds etc. Is there any process on Zerodha ( Coin ) where I can set-up the systematic withdrawal every month? or is it only confined to specific mutual funds on Zerodha?
Not for now, Subhash. But it is on the list of things to do.
Hi Karthik, Awesome chapter..I was looking for retirement goal and a goal for my kids education..my current age is 38 years and for my kid is 2 years…for retirement I am planning to invest 20k per month with 20years in target and 10% stepup…for my kid I am planning 5k monthly…for retirement I am planning to have a portfolio of the mixture of 40%in large cap..20% in index fund ..20% in flexi cap…10% each in mid cap and small cap…is this plan good enough..and for kid I am targetting of a time horizon of 7/12/15 years..
Harish, by and large, it looks ok. But why would you need an index fund and a large-cap fund? Guess that would be an overlap? I’d suggest you speak to a fee-only advisor once to get a perspective, but make sure you ask the right questions.
Thank you Karthik for the response..the idea behind having index and large cap fund was due to diversification and expense ratio in mind..but yes it will be causing overlap.. maybe I can reshuffle my portfolio to 50% large cap 20% flexi cap ..10% index..10% in midcap and small cap
Yup, also I’m personally not a big fan of small-cap funds. Prefer just large and mid-cap stocks 🙂
Thank you Karthik, for the response. So for each goal for example retirement, child education, etc what do you suggest having multiple large\midcap stocks or for each goal one-one large\mid cap stocks because if we have to bring down the overlap ratio then we should not have multiple stocks of same category..is my undderstanding correct?
Yeah, you can do that. But also ensure you don’t have too many of the same type 🙂
Hey Karthik, I’ve made this mutual fund portfolio for myself , currently I’m 20 years old and hoping for some wealth creation via this portfolio. I also invest directly into stocks but this would be my hedge to the stock market investments.
Please take a look at my portfolio.
1. Paragh Parikh flexi cap 30%
2. Uti Nifty Index fund 30%
3. Uti nifty 200 momentum30 15%
4. Axis small cap fund 15%
5. Axis growth opportunities fund 10%
By reading you article I’ve understood that it is not useful to invest in large & midcap schemes so I was thinking of replacing axis growth opportunities and invest the 10% in uti nifty index fund only. So my large cap allocation would be 40%. Please give you insights .
Raghav, I’m glad you are investing at the young age of 20. Wish I had the insights to do that myself. PPFAS and Index fund is good, you need to figure you opted for small cap fund. Otherwise looks good to me, maybe you should check with a qualified financial advisor once.
Hi Karthik, Wanted to understand that how LTCG will come into the picture if we are planning for Retirement using Large & Midcaps. Are there anyways to hedge it?
There is no way to hedge it, HArish. You will have to pay capital gains due 🙂
That is correct..in that case we have to look for SWP and consider the taxation part also as part of our goal
Yes.
Awesome course! In this chapter you mention to periodically review the fund performance to ensure that it does not lag its peers. But i could not find info on what to do if after a few years, i find that the fund is indeed lagging its peers. Should i withdraw the entire amount and invest in a ‘better’ fund in the same sub-class?
Kevin, yes, thats one of the way to rebalance. I’ll try and put up notes on this soon.
i had started investing in MFs before going through this course (which i now regret), and i over-diversified into 40-45 MFs. I am trying to reduce future investments gradually into lesser funds. Let’s say if i concentrate only on 15 out of these 45 MFs, what should i do with the amount i have already invested in the other 30 MFs? Should i just keep it as is, or move it to the 15 MFs as well?
Are you sure you need 15 MFs Kevin? Please think about it again 🙂
So you sell all the funds that you don’t need and invest the proceeds in funds that you think are the ones you need for long term.
Oh, is 15 also a huge number? 🙂
i had a very hard time bringing them down to 15…
But i got your point. Selling the others and investing in these 15-ish funds 🙂
Yes, thats the idea 🙂
Hello sir, thanks a lot for this module! This has been very very helpful. I’m in early 20s in my first job and thought of beginning with index funds for the long haul as I can’t fix near goals now. Started a small SIP in ICICI pru nifty 50 index fund. Is it a good fund? Also, sometimes I think the PE of nifty 50 is high, so can I just buy units when PE is <= 21/20 instead of SIP every month?? Or is it just trying to time the market? Also, should I sip in nifty next 50 as well?
Good luck, Karthik. I’m glad you started the first SIP, hope it creates a lot of wealth for you. Nifty + Next 50 is generally a good combination. Not a big fan of timing the market 🙂
Hey Karthik,
While you’ve provided a great cheat sheet, I believe it is time we could give an updated version to it, to give a comprehensive
and up to date coverage.
1. Can we please cover Conservative hybrid and Aggressive Hybrid funds there? If not, can you, let me know if they are suitable for a time period of 1-3 (expected CAGR 6%+) and 3-6 years respectively (expected CAGR 8-11%), given we take care of overlapping with the rest of the portfolio?
2. You could add Flexicap to the list as it is different from Multicap category.
3. Could you please let me know if I can have an index fund and a large cap fund in my portfolio, with very less overlapping and something that can be used for a proper retirement purpose, expecting great returns?
Thanks so much for your help.
Saarthak
1) Yes, hybrid is a good option as well. But again, only if you have an intent to hold for say 5 yrs or more. As a thumb rule, I believe any MF with EQ exposure should be held not less than 5 years.
2) Noted
3) Yes, but that’s hard to find right?
Thank you for responding 🙂
Just wanted to check if you offer investment advises officially? If not, would you be able to refer a Salaried person to someone who directly/indirectly manage the portfolio or at least give periodic/one time advises?
Thank you again, Karthik 🙂
No Saarthak, I don’t offer investment advice 🙂
But do check this – https://www.feeonlyindia.com/list-of-fee-only-planners , from what I hear, it has a decent bunch of folks advising for fees.
Hi Karthik, I am planning to keep the money which I am getting during any function or festival for my kid who is 2 years old in some of the MF ,and I want to keep it adding till he is 5 years old.So that some lumpsum will be made.for him. So was looking for your suggestions in selecting mutual funds in this case.
Harish, I’d suggest you pick any decent large-cap fund and invest in it. I’d even suggest a index fund 🙂
Hello Karthik,
Have you read the book ” Coffee Can Investing ” by Saurabh Mukherjea if yes could you please tell us your idea about Coffee can investing.
This book strictly says NO to MF’s for a sole reason of Expense ratio which would eat the returns in a long run.
The book talks about two filters which are company growth by 10% and ROCE of 15%, any company which satisfies the condition can be bought and held for 10+ more years atleast for 10-11% returns.
What’s your take on it.
Thankyou in Advance.
I’ve not read the book, Anuragh. Although on the surface, I’d not agree with saying no to MF 🙂
Hi Karthik, With the ongoing issue with AXIS MF AMC, would you suggest to wait us for some more time for the sebi investigation to complete or should we switch the investment to other AMC’s?
Harish, doing something in haste might be a bad idea. If the reason you have invested in the fund hasn’t changed and the fund managers continue to manage the funds as they should, then you can continue staying invested. If the SEBI investigation finds serious lapses in judgment, then you can take a call on moving out.
Hi Karthik sir,
I am 24 and an unemployed person .I am learning finance by reading varsity.Should I focus on cracking jobs or first learn finance.
Crack a job first 🙂
hello sir..
thanks for sharing your knowledge..my question is why to use overnight funds and liquid funds when banks do the same? is that because we get a slightly higher returns?
Yeah, pretty much the same now. YOu can choose to invest in a bank FD as well 🙂
If I have Two different goals with time horizon more than 15 years each, is it ok to invest in same MF scheme with same AMC but with separate Folios (1st for goal A , 2nd for goal B) ?
Yes, nothing wrong with it.
Hi, Kartik
Thanks for sharing detail knowledge.
I compared two AMC of two different categories.
First one was Hdfc Index S&p Bse Sensex Direct Plan Growth(Large cap) and second was SBI Large & Midcap Fund Direct Plan,
Both have common good stocks, I have a doubt as you said overlapping should be minimal,
There is high probability that Amc included all good stocks in common, in that case what can be point of decision.
HDFC is large cap and SBI is large + mid cap. So there will be overlap. If the idea is to have two funds – one large and one mid, then look for these specific funds. So one large cap only and one mid cap only.
Btw, irrespective of how you do this, some overlap will be there. Very hard to have to unique funds, but plan in such a way that the overlap is minimum.
Thanks A lot for clearing the same, also share how one can learn more on mutual funds
This module is about Mutual funds 🙂
very very helpful.
THANKS A TON
Happy learning 🙂
Hey Karthik
Your articles on Personal Finance are really informative and push us to actually go and take action. I think your writing actually made me get confidence in myself to manage my money and make investment decision. I see so many people making money by charging for giving this same knowledge in a much worse way than youve managed to give for free. Really amazing – thank you so much.
I just had one question, ive already invested in an index and flexi cap fund, I was thinking to start investing in a mid cap fund – do you suggest to buy a mid cap fund or just 2 funds are enough? I do plan to invest lump sum amount ( around 4l) into a debt fund as well. And some amount in reit’s.
Happy to note that, Eesha. Glad you found the content helpful 🙂
Yes, you certainly can add a mid-cap fund. In that way, you will have complete market coverage 🙂 I’m not sure about REITs though.
Hi Karthik
Thank you for your prompt response! really appreciate it – I will invest in a mid cap fund now.
just on the second bit, the 4l I am planning to invest is basically my emergency fund but I intend to keep that invested in case not required – would you suggest a liquid fund or a short duration fund?
REIT’s were mentioned in your asset allocation chapter, so thats why did further research on them, would you not recommend them?
By the way, if its emergency funds, arbitrage funds are also a decent option.
Hi Karthik,
Currently I am having 6 sips running with 30k distributed in them.I was looking for further consolidation from 6 funds to maybe 3.the 6 funds which I am having is of below category:
-Large Cap
– Index fund
– Midcap
– Flexicap
– Small Cap
– International fof
My Current age stands at 39..so I am 21 years behind retirement…So for consolidation can I just keep…only Index\Large cap, Midcap & Flexicap ..with aggressive risk appetite..
What will be your suggestion in this?
You can have either a large or index fund, both are not required in my opinion plus a mid-cap fund. I’d get rid of the small-cap as well. But please do speak to your financial advisor once.
Thank you Karthik for your suggestion…my financial adviser is your courses 😊
Its always better to get an opinion from someone who deals with portfolio management 🙂
recently I have a seen a rise in the advertisements of balanced advantage funds many influencers and mutual fund platforms are recommending to invest in balanced advantage fund but the thing which unease me about these influencers and mutual fund platforms is that they are promoting them for doing investment for a short term horizon for only about 6 months, which I think isn’t the right and appropriate time horizon for balanced funds.
what I wanted to ask you was that are they being promoted in a right way in terms of investment horizon.
Any equity-linked scheme cannot be invested on a short-term basis. You need to give such investments time 🙂
Hello sir, I am about to start option theory but before I was just little curious about the return calculator of the mutual fund.
Here are following MF of two different categories-
1) Quant Small Cap Fund Direct Plan Growth
5Y annualized- 24.53%
Monthly SIP of Rs 10000 for 5 years-
Total Investment- Rs 600000
Expected Return-1474669
2)PGIM India Midcap Opportunities Fund Direct Growth
5Y annualized- 17.63%
Monthly SIP of Rs 20000 for 5 years-
Total Investment- Rs 1200000
Expected Return-2322905
Sir my question is what is reality of this expected return calculator?
How much I can expect if consistently invest every month regardless of how market is performing( Is it same around the expected return or what?)
I will be more than happy if you explain this little briefly..
How much you can expect is dependent on the markets. Something like 10% or in that region is a reasonable expectation for equity MFs, in general. Could be a little higher for small caps, but do remember small caps are also way riskier.
how to calculate in excel amount of SIP required for a goal (eg: if I want to invest 25Lakhs for 15 years @12%, adjusted for inflation @10% then how to calculate amount of SIP required per month in excel
This is by the method of approximation. YOu start with say, 10000, see what result you get. If its more than 25L, then reduce the amount to say 8K, or if its less, increase the amount, till you can get close to the target.
I found a way to calculate the amount SIP required in excel using the ‘PMT’ function but when I input the details my answer doesn’t match with some online available tools for the same my answer is always higher in every case
Not sure why, most likely a mismatch with the interest rate and time?
by using the ‘PMT’ function for the following input:
P – 25,00,000
Time – 15years
Expected Int. rates = 12%
Inflation rate expected = 10%
The amt. for SIP required monthly which I am getting is 50,403 but on the online tools the is was 20842.
So, is there something I am doing wrong or is there any way or a function to calculate the SIP required other than the PMT function
Shivansh, I’m unable to figure out where you are going wrong with PMT. I’d suggest you use the SIP calculators available online.
yes I can use online tools but I want it in excel for something but I don’t know why am I getting wrong answers with the same inputs even if you try putting the same inputs in the above you will get 50403 as the answer and not 20842
In that case, you will have to build a SIP calculator. They way I’d do it is –
1) Start with any SIP amount – 10K or 15K or whatever.
2) Fix your tenure. For example, 25 years or 300 months
3) Fix your growth rate – 10 or 12% based on your view on markets.
4) Calculate the future value of each SIP amount. For example, the first SIP of 10K grows at 10% for full 300 months. The 2nd sip for 299 months
5) Sum total all the future values = You get the final corpus accumulated. See if this matches your required corpus. If not, increase or decrease your SIP amount till it matches your estimated corpus.
This was you will be able to build your own SIP calculator.
hi, may u help me with what return expectation shall i have or how do i calculate it for the future period
You can look at the long-term average returns of an index to get a sense of what to expect in the long term, Tejas.
Wow, the entire article is really insightful and the specific case studies are relatable to people of most age groups. Thanks for this quality content.
I have a naive question 😅, for a long-term goal of 10 years, it is suggested to invest in Large and Mid Cap funds, and index funds are suggested for goals like retirement plans. But, while going through the Index funds section, I learned that 82% of the actively managed large-cap funds underperform the index. So, if someone wants to consider safer options, wouldn’t it be better to invest in index funds for goals of around ~10 years?
I just want to understand the reasoning for the suggestion to invest in index funds for longer-duration goals (like retirement) and large-cap funds for goals of ~10 years, why not vice-versa? Or why not just index or actively managed funds for both?
Thanks for the kind words, and I’m glad you liked the content 🙂 Yup, index funds make sense for financial goals that is in the region of 10+ years and can be substituted for a large cap fund 🙂
Good luck!
Thanks a lot for the great content. It is really helpful to build a MF portfolio for you financial goals. One thing that I would have wanted more is when building a portfolio, which MF should I start with. Like, is there any order in which I should start evaluating MFs. Each category has a lot of MFs, should I really go through each of those or is there a general guideline for that ?
Glad you liked the content 🙂
There is no order as such, but always start with something which is simple to understand and build from it.
Got it. Previously (before reading your content), I used to consider star rating as one of the filters to completely reject some fund. Now this is not a great filter to start with. First one would be identifying the category. Then in a particular category should I analyse each fund ?
You can still use the star rating as a starting point, but do not look at it as a the only parameter to evaluate 🙂
Hi Karthik,
So far I have been investing in regular ELSS MFs only. I would like to move on based on the approaches you have mentioned. Would you recommend to sell these holdings and start with new MFs or let them accumulate and start new direct MFs separately?
If you don’t have a need for ELSS, then you can start looking at other funds, Rohit. ELSS makes sense only if you have a need for saving taxes.
Yes Karthik, I can fulfill my tax obligations elsewhere now. So don’t require ELSS anymore. But when you say “you can start looking at other funds” do you mean sell off the ELSS funds as and when their lock-in period gets over and invest in other funds?
Here is my plan of action from what I have learnt through your courses:
– Immediate sell of ELSS funds whose lock-in periods are completed and invest in new Direct funds.
– Convert the remaining locked-in ELSS funds to Direct till date of maturity and then follow step1
– Any new investments to be in direct funds based on approaches across these chapters.
Do you think the approach is right?
By the way, I’m not a qualified investment advisor so whatever I say, please take it with a pinch of salt and consult a professional advisor.
I’d not invest in an ELSS without tax advantage because these are usually expensive funds. You can get the same exposure in any large cap or index funds.
Your approach seems fine, but do check once with an advisor 🙂
Please give guidance or suggestions for senior citizens looking to invest in equity funds for capital appreciation keeping ease of understanding and handling in focus. Types of funds which may be suggestive for them. There is scant information available for elders keen on equity participation. Regards
Knsood, please do check this playlist on Youtube – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sq2o1atWLY&list=PLX2SHiKfualGsjgd7fKFC-JXRF6vO73hk
Hi Karthik, I sincerely appreciate your hard work.
Do you happen to have some excel templates which can help anybody from a non-finance background to build a portfolio with financial goals? It may also have asset allocation info as well and rebalancing guidelines.
I know I’ve asked too much but for a non-finance background person, these simple tasks are not so ‘simple’ 🙂
Also, Why do we need to rebalance MF/stocks portfolio? Can’t buy & forget (coffee can strategy) is sufficient for 20+ years? What exactly are we losing on if we do not go for yearly rebalancing? Thanks!!
Thanks for the kind words, Vinay. No, i don’t have an excel template, but only the ready rekon table I’ve up in this chapter. Its good to keep a tab on whats happening once in a way while still maintaining the invest and forget attitude 🙂
Hello Sir,
I have read the article and it has proved quite useful for planning investment. Thanks a lot for this 🙂
I wish to create wealth in long run, 10+ years and buy a house. I am willing to invest in equity mutual funds given their returns in long run. However, I have few doubts from overall portfolio perspective which I am writing below:
1. I have planned on putting money in large cap, mid cap and small cap funds. As all these are risky (small cap being riskiest), should I balance my portfolio with debt or hybrid fund? Or if I don’t balance, how does it affect in long run?
2. I checked morning star website for dynamic asset allocation MF’s in hybrid fund category, but the trailing returns data (5Y and 10Y) is not available for most of the funds. Will it be wise to still opt for fund in this category based on available data (short term performance)?
3. Can you suggest some portals/website where I can track all my investments including fixed income sources & profits/losses in one place?
I’d suggest you speak to a qualified RIA for this. Sharing my thoughts –
1) I’d suggest you avoid smallcaps as its the riskiest. Move to debt only towards the frag end of the period, mainly to safe guard your corpus.
2) I’d suggest you stick to EQ for a larger period and not mix it with other categories
3) Console?
Thank you for the input!
Sure, happy learning Sanket!
Hi Karthik,
Wonderful content. Thanks for teaching us in best possible way. I think I am addicted to reading of all your chapter. Thank you so much .
I have one query, my current value in regular fund is 60lacs ( invested value : 33 L) which I accumulated in last 8 years with the help of broker . Now I want to invested in direct plan through coin.
Please let me know the best possible way to transfer all the funds amount
Thanks in advance!!!
Regards
Praveen Gupta
Praveen, I’m glad you liked the content on Varsity. As far as the funds are concerned, I think you will have to sell regular and buy back same funds in direct form. But please do cal our support desk once for this.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for your reply!!!
I recently saw your you tube video too on mutual fund . They were superb. Thanks for this kind of education.
I will definitely call support desk for this matter.
Regards
Praveen Gupta
Sure Praveen, glad you liked the videos. The support desk will help. Good luck.
by the way , what i mean when i say strategy for transferring from regular plan to direct plan is that
should I sell all free unit in regular plan fund ( excluding STCG, lock in period & exit load) and then invest in direct plan in lumpsum or put all corpus In debt fund & then with the help of SWP, I invest in direct fund. but this way i will have high LTCG hence more tax
or
Should I exit all free units having LTCG of 1 lakh & first priority should be exit from high TER regular plan fund. And then invest lumpsum ( because the corpus will not be that much high) in direct plan. but this will take around 8-10 years.
or
Should I start monthly SWP from regular plan such that LTCG should not exceed 1 lac and invest in direct plan.
or
any other strategy which you want to suggest.
please guide me in case i will not get this kind of suggestion from support call . Actually we ( 2 brother with total lumpsum of 1.25 cr in regular plan ) wants to switch in direct plan and since amount is very high we are very tensed with what could be best possible strategy. Please guide me
Please note we will stop SIP form this months or next month from regular plan & start in direct plan. The above query is for lumpsum amount.
Please guide me or i will get this help form support call.
I was in a similar boat a few years ago. My plan was to liquidate all units of regular plan, invest the proceeds in a liquid fund, and then invest systematically in same funds, direct plan over 6 months. While it was a decent plan, i started analysing markets and made the mistake of ‘not investing’, and that happened to be one of the best bull runs in the recent times.
So you can select any technique, all I’d advise is to execute the plan quickly 🙂
Thanks Karthik for your kind suggestion.
Now I’m feeling confident and will execute the plan asap
Regards
Praveen Gupta
Good luck, Praveen!
Not able to access Morningstar worksheets, any workaround or other templates available?
Ah, not sure Anshu. Maybe you can ask the Morningstar team once?
sir i have 2 funds ongoing sip one is nifty 50 index fund and second is nifty next fifty index fund. is this diversification good or i need to change?
my goal is for retirement and i am 24 yrs old
That’s a good enough diversification from my point of view, but please do check with a professional financial advisor once 🙂
I am in my early 30’s and have an excess corpus of over 40 lakhs. I want an investment plan, as I have done with all other sorts of MF investments, such as for children’s education loans, emergency savings, and so on, after viewing your module, but this extra money should be used how I am not getting it.
So, what should the strategy be for this sum? (I’m not asking for a full plan, but any perspective would be helpful.)
Thank you, as always.
Atharva, why dont you invest this in your retirement funds itself?
Sir , a Question is today’s Twitter tweet after reading my question 🙂 😅 u miss interpreted my question sir , Alas no problem u are our teacher, u have the authority 🙂
Also sir by your grace having studied all the modules, I have started 4 sip in all my investment plan with some huge lumpsum amount , that includes retirement fund too (as I stated in above questions saying etc)
So now what would be your answer, still invest in retirement fund, but have invested very large amount with sip going & it will be for approximately 30 years with every year assessment.
My question was can their be a new plan or new perspective you would choose to invest this extra fund
Thanks as always
Atharva, sorry if I did not interpret your question correctly. Perhaps I should have reread it. So if you have a retirement SIP going on, and if you have a lumpsum amount to invest, you can still go ahead and invest the same lumpsum in the retirement portfolio. The reason is that as more investments happen, your goals can be achieved sooner and whatever corpus target you have can be achieved sooner.
New plan, new perspective comes from a need basis. If you have one, then maybe you should start a new sip, but if you don’t have one, then I’d suggest you divert the funds to retirement itself. But please do consult a professional financial advisor for this 🙂
Hi Karthik… your work is unparalleled and your cracking complex topics to simple is amazing. It would be really helpful if you can take few more case studies on –LIKE personage 35 and his savings per month 30k(increasing 10% investment every year he is planning for buying home after 15 years and retainment after 20 year and girl child marriage after 24 years goal based investment ( those 3 cases provided good insight and I was able to relate with them) and thank you for this module, esp this chapter. Best wishes to you , your parents and your family.. stay safe & healthy. Please help me out I am new to mutual fund trying to create better mutual fund portfolio
Thank you.
Regard’s
Thanks for the kind words, Raghunath. I’ve covered a few examples here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zrl3ZeqqsE&list=PLX2SHiKfualGsjgd7fKFC-JXRF6vO73hk&index=13
I hope that helps 🙂
What about ETF vs Index fund, which makes more sense both from a return and a risk prospective.
I’d suggest you evaluate both, I’d prefer index funds in the Indian context.
Hi Karthik. Thanks a lot for all your efforts and putting together this module. The concepts you have explained are much much easier to understand as compared to other websites. This module was my journey into learning mutual fund analysis and now I am also learning fundamental analysis of stocks. I will try and complete all the modules as these are a good base to start with.
I had 3 questions
1) With the indicators you have provided – can one analyse a small cap mutual fund using the same process?
2) In your cheat sheet you have mentioned small caps to be very risky and best to avoid. However what about a mutual fund like Nippon India Small Cap Fund – Direct Plan – Growth Plan – I checked the 3, 5, 7 and 10 years of RR and it has given outstanding Avg RR of 27.95 way more than best of the Mid cap mutual funds, considering we had covid and everything.
Would you then suggest it is a safe option?
3) What if a mutual fund like Axis Midcap Fund Direct Plan Growth has given good 10 years of RR. However its last three years have given poor performance –
3 years alpha is minus 0.11
3 years risk return ratio is below avg (morning star)
5 year Capture ratio up is only 85
3 year down capture ratio is at 86
And I can see there is a manager who was there from 2021 to 2023 after which there are 2 new fund manager who have joined in 2023 and the long lasting fund manager has been there since 2016 till present. Are there some indicators of which we need to make some sense of while analysing? Are these signs that one should avoid even though the 10 years RR were good. But I can see a lot of change in Fund managers as mentiond above.
thanks in advance.
Thanks Swapnil. I’m glad that you liked the contents on Varsity and found it useful 🙂
1) Yes, you can apply the same framework for smallcap funds as well
2) The only issue with small cap funds is the volatility. If you can digest that and stay invested for a long time, then you can consider these.
3) Its ok, if your objective is to hold to 10plus years, you can probably go soft on capture ratio.
Yes, you do need to take note of this and figure why the frequent churn in the fund manager. That said, fund management is largely process driven these days, so the role of fund manager is not like how it was say 10 years ago.
Forgot to add – For “Nippon India Small Cap Fund – Direct Plan – Growth Plan” The Avg RRs of 3, 5, 7 and 10 years are great and beating the benchmark as per Advisor Khoj
Got it, please do check my previous response.
Hi, Thankyou for so much knowledge provided. This has for sure given me confidence to start investing (even if late).
My confusion though is if my financial goal is retirement (around 20+ years from now), in that case do I have to consider index funds only as part of my investing strategy? Also, Please suggest if my portfolio mix can be at any advantage as an NRI with access to international market & funds.
Better late than never, Komal 🙂
Yeah, good to have index fund across all market capitalization. It will be great to have International funds, especially the ones which have exposure to US Tech companies.
The article mentions “ELSS funds – Useless one needs to save on taxes as well.” Why do you make that assertion? If some one is the market for long-term are they not good instruments to have in one’s portfolio?
ELSS offers tax advantage only under the 80C section. If you are not availing that tax benefit, then why opt for ELSS. ELSS funds are expensive, you get the same fund (non ELSS) for lesser expense ratio.
Hii…. If mutual funds complete portfolio is visible to us …we can maintain a portfolio similar to that with similar weightage in our demat account so that we dont have to pay any extra charges for that…. Whats your opinion on this???
The MF portfolio does not get disclosed immediately, but rather once in a month. So its not possible to clone a portfolio.
Hi Karthik,
Thank you very much for all your efforts to create these amazing modules! These have been immensely helpful!!
I just have a question, what advice would you give someone who has created a messy portfolio of too many Mutual Funds (multiple funds of same class)? How should one start getting rid of these investments? Is there anything to consider before doing this?
Thanks Paritosh. You can start with the following –
1) Define your financial goals
2) Segregate the goals into long and short term buckets
3) See if there is a need for an ELSS fund
4) For long term goals stick to Equity and for short term goals, think of debt
5) Ideally each goal should not have more than 2 or at the most 3 funds. For example, if I’m saving for retirement, I’ll choose maybe an index lagre cap and Index mid cap fund
6) Get rid of all funds which are not associated with any financial goal
Hopefully this process will give you a starting point.
Karthik Sir, Thank you for these great modules, much appreciated, I’m 45 years old with nil investments in MF or stocks so far except for in the real estate. I receive monthly rental income of 30000 plus 1.5L deposit which I would have to return if the tenant vacates, so please advise which funds would be suitable for the same?
I think you should start thinking about savings for retirement. I’d suggest you pick any index fund and start off with some monthly savings.
Hello,
I wanted to know the benefits and differences of investing in an Index fund and an Index directly.
PS: Love the content, it is very insightful. Thanks.
You cant really invest in an index directly, unless you are talking about buying stocks to make an index. If yes, than that is a very cumbersome and expensive process. You are way better just buying the index fund and letting the fund manager manage it for you for a small fee.
Why necessarily should I park my 50L in some carrier fund, instead I can put it in my bank account. Is there any reason why u suggested us to park in a carrier fund??
Yes, you can park in bank FD as well. Just that with a carrier fund, its easy to transact.
How to check the overall overlapping of all the mutual funds? I tried going through the Portfolio feature on the Coin app but it does not show individual investments in companies by Mutual funds. Instead showing overall investments in companies.
Instead of stock specific overlap, look at the marketcap overlap. For example, if you have 1 largecap fund, then there is no point having another fund of the same type.
I am investing Rs 60000 per month in SIP through Coin App spread across as below:
1. UTI Nifty 50 Index Fund (Index Fund) – 10000
2. ICICI Prudential Bluechip Fund (Large Cap) – 1000
3. HDFC Large & Mid Cap Fund (Large & Mid Cap Fund) – 12500
4. ICICI Prudential Multi Asset Fund (Hybrid Fund) – 12500
5. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund (Flexi Cap) – 15000
Is it properly diversified? Is it okay to continue with the above combination?
I am a new investor. So, any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
I’m not a professional advisor, so do take my advice with a pinch of salt.
1) UTI Nifty 50 and ICICI Pru Blue chip is an overlap, why would you need two of these?
2) Why do you need HDFC Large and Mid cap when you have large cap exposure already?
The rest seem ok. But do ensure you have a proper reason for holding these funds in your portfolio. I’ve shared my thoughts here, please do check this once – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zrl3ZeqqsE
I enjoyed reading this chapter till the end, you took one last case of how to invest the lumpsum amount of 50lakhs. I understood that we could park the whole amount in liquid funds and then redeem 8.3lakh from the liquid fund over the next 6 months. But Could you please explain the 3rd point? Are you saying that we have to invest that redeemed 8.3lakh in an index fund or mid-cap fund every month for the next six months?
(Invest the fund’s redeemed funds into the retirement fund – say a Balanced Fund and a Midcap fund. Or an Index fund and a mid-cap fund.)
Thank you!
Thanks Jay. So which fund the money goes into really depends on your portfolio choice. If you feel a largecap is what you need for your financial goad, then just that fund is good to go.
1) The thought behind UTI Nifty 50 and ICICI Pru Blue chip was to keep one active and one passive fund in Large Cap category. At the same time, the amount I was planning to invest in Large Cap as a whole is basically distributed between these 2 funds.
At the same time, I completely understand the point after reading through the varsity.
So, what / which one do you suggest to keep in my portfolio considering I am planning for long term investing of 10+ years?
2) My thought behind keeping HDFC Large and Mid cap was to have some exposure to Mid Cap too, without having a pure Mid Cap fund.
For this one, what do you suggest? should I keep it or replace it with a pure Mid Cap fund?
Ultimately, how would rebalance and replan my portfolio for a monthly outflow of Rs 60000 in mutual funds after mentioning that the 3rd and 4th in the below list is fine as per your thoughts:
A. Current Portfolio – Rs 60000 per month
1. UTI Nifty 50 Index Fund (Index Fund) – 10000
2. ICICI Prudential Bluechip Fund (Large Cap) – 10000
3. HDFC Large & Mid Cap Fund (Large & Mid Cap Fund) – 12500
4. ICICI Prudential Multi Asset Fund (Hybrid Fund) – 12500
5. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund (Flexi Cap) – 15000
B. New/Properly Diversified Portfolio – Rs 60000 per month
?????
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Reply: Karthik Rangappa says: March 1, 2024 at 6:04 am
I’m not a professional advisor, so do take my advice with a pinch of salt.
1) UTI Nifty 50 and ICICI Pru Blue chip is an overlap, why would you need two of these?
2) Why do you need HDFC Large and Mid cap when you have large cap exposure already?
The rest seem ok. But do ensure you have a proper reason for holding these funds in your portfolio. I’ve shared my thoughts here, please do check this once – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zrl3ZeqqsE
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Amit Kumar says: March 1, 2024 at 1:40 am
I am investing Rs 60000 per month in SIP through Coin App spread across as below:
1. UTI Nifty 50 Index Fund (Index Fund) – 10000
2. ICICI Prudential Bluechip Fund (Large Cap) – 10000
3. HDFC Large & Mid Cap Fund (Large & Mid Cap Fund) – 12500
4. ICICI Prudential Multi Asset Fund (Hybrid Fund) – 12500
5. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund (Flexi Cap) – 15000
Is it properly diversified? Is it okay to continue with the above combination?
I am a new investor. So, any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
I still feel there is a bit of optimization possible, best to speak to a good financial advisor (RIA) 🙂
Dear Karthik,
Just a suggestion request from me. And I’m absolutely fine to take your suggestion with a pinch of salt 😊.
1. UTI Nifty 50 Index Fund (Index Fund)
2. ICICI Prudential Bluechip Fund (Large Cap)
3. HDFC Large & Mid Cap Fund (Large & Mid Cap Fund)
4. ICICI Prudential Multi Asset Fund (Hybrid Fund)
5. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund (Flexi Cap)
Considering the above MFs in a portfolio, which option would you think would be better and would optimize the portfolio in, from the below two options? Option 1 OR Option 2?
Options:
1. Remove the ICICI Prudential Bluechip Fund (Large Cap)
OR
2. Replace the HDFC Large & Mid Cap Fund with a pure Mid Cap Fund i.e. HDFC Mid-Cap Opportunities Fund.
Any 3rd option is also welcomed. 😊
If I were you, I’d consider –
1) UTI Nifty 50 Index Fund (Index Fund)
2) ICICI Prudential Multi Asset Fund (Hybrid Fund)
3) Parag Parikh Flexi Cap Fund (Flexi Cap)
In fact, I’d even think about not having Multi Asset Fund, and having a mid cap fund 🙂
Which Mid-Cap Fund would you prefer, HDFC Mid-Cap Opportunities Fund OR Kotak Emerging Equity Fund?
Or may be a Mid-Cap Index Fund instead?
Amit, there are many factors based on which you can select a fund, I’ve discussed that in the previous chapter on how to pick an EQ fund, request you to watch that 🙂
Any specific reason for not having the Multi Asset Fund and having a Mid cap fund?
Reasons to include or not include a fund depends on portfolio goals, AMit. I’m not sure if I cant talk more about fund specifc things, I’m not a RIA 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Appreciate you for awesome content !!
I am new to the investment world. I have the flexibility to invest Rs 1 lakh per month in MFs. I will turn 30 this May. I’m unmarried, have no debt/loans and my planned investment horizon is 15+ years.
Considering moderate risk profile for me, would you mind suggesting a sample MF portfolio for me that includes number of funds, their respective category, the percentage allocation, etc.
Thank you in advance!!
Priyanshu, please talk to a professional RIA for this, they will be he happy to help you with this 🙂
Hi Karthik, I am 40 years old and have mostly invested in Mutual Funds via research and advice from helpful articles like yours. If I share my current mutual fund portfolio, are you able to provide your feedback?
While I did consider stocks as well, did not proceed due to lack of clear understanding about the process and which ones to opt for.
Thank you for your great advice and insight.
I’m glad the articles help 🙂
Unfortunately, I wont be able to do that. I’m not a registered advisor 🙂
Hi Karthik
Big fan of your work.
After going through your modules I have done some research for the 2 months and identified funds for my portfolio. If you could share your insight on this it will be really helpful.
1. ICICI prudential bluechip fund (investment time : 15 years. financial goal : Child education) (reason for picking : more number of holdings, less risk ratios, good rolling returns)
2. Zerodha large mid cap 250 index fund (investment time : 20 years. financial goal : child’s marriage) (reason for picking : liked the concept of this index. upon my research, found that its lesser risk compared to mid cap index and better returns when compared to large cap index. Also, Edelweiss offers lesser expense ratio than zerodha but my bias towards zerodha made me to choose this. Hope zerodha reduces the expense ratio in the future)
3. Parag Parikh flexi cap fund (investment time : 25 years. financial goal : Retirement) (reason for picking : considering the duration, I thought I would take bit more risk)
4. Nippon India Nifty smallcap 250 index fund (investment time : 25 years. financial goal : Retirement) (reason for picking : considering the duration, I thought I would take bit more risk)
1. Also, I would like to know when it comes to mid cap & small cap funds, is it advisable to invest in active funds rather than index funds? why because, all the index funds that I see under midcap 150 and small cap 250 are newly started ones and I don’t have any historical data to research.
2. what would be your combination of funds (like large cap, mid cap etc) if you are to invest in 4 funds for duration of 20 years.
3. I chose active funds in nifty 50 category over index funds because I expect large cap active funds to perform well over index funds for a 20 year span. Am I right here or should I invest that also in nifty 50 or nifty next 50 index funds?
4. Is investing in large mid cap category a good option or its better to take some risk and invest in mid cap funds?
5. Am I taking too much risk in adding flexi cap and small cap index funds to my portfolio?
I’m sorry to shoot these many questions at you. Its just that even after doing these many researches for over 2 months also, I’m stuck to choose between the funds as there are numerous funds under different categories.
I would just need your insight like what will you do if you are in my position.
Many thanks to you for your work on these modules.
Thanks Rohit. All the 4 funds are good, although the Zerodha fund is relatively younger. And I’m obviously biased given my close association with the fund. I’m glad you’ve identified that these funds need a lot of investment time and are willing to give that. Its ok to stick with a avg fund for a long time versus a star fund for a short duration. Time heals all investment mistakes 🙂
1) Yes, I guess that is ok, although I personally invest in Nifty Next 50 Index fund.
2) An equal split is fine too. Or maybe a slight bias towards retirement.
3) SPIVA data suggests otherwise, where over 10+ years, index funds tend to outperform active funds.
4) Its ok, dont hesitate to invest. Give it time though.
5) I’m not a fan of small cap fund at this stage in my life 🙂
Good luck!
I am 30 years old and I have the flexibility to invest 2 Lakhs per month into Mutual Funds.
After reading this chapter, here is something I am thinking to distribute 2 Lakhs across 2 different goals:
Goal 1: Retirement Planning (1 Lakh)
1. Index (Nifty 50) Fund (40%, 40,000)
2. Large & Mid Cap Fund (60%, 60000) – thinking of keeping this instead of a pure Mid Cap Fund to be a bit safe.
Goal 2: Returns Making (1 Lakh)
1. Flexi Cap Fund (50%, 50,000) – since this is majorly Large cap stocks
2. Multi Cap Fund Fund (20%, 20,000) – thinking of keeping this a pure Mid cap or Small Cap to be less volatile
3. Multi-Asset Allocation Fund (30%, 30,000) – to maintain balance in the portfolio for safety
How does this look Karthik?
Thats a sizable amount to invest. I hope that grows over the years and creates lot of wealth to you and your family 🙂
The split sounds ok, except I’m unsure about the multi asset allocation and its purpose.
The thought about keeping a multi-asset allocation hybrid fund (ICICI Multi-Asset Fund) is that it invests in at least 10% in 3 different asset classes such as Equity, Gold and Debt. Also, the other 2 funds in that particular goal are Flexi Cap & Multi Cap which fall into comparatively highly volatile zone. So, this Multi-Asset fund will provide some cushion to the portfolio.
Also, when I grow old (let’s say 10-20 years later), I would need to reduce equity exposure. Then, I will have to look for another fund. I think Hybrid fund would be okay in that case. So, instead of starting then, to maintain discipline and not getting into headache of switching funds then, I am continuing with one hybrid (multi-asset) fund from now itself (of course with a small percentage). And when I keep getting older, I will reduce equity exposure and increase hybrid fund exposure accordingly.
Well, that’s my thinking after learning so much from varsity. What are your thoughts about my thought Karthik?
Makes sense Amit, I just wanted to understand your opinon on why multi asset funds. Also, please do double check once from a professional investment advisor. Wishing you the best.
Also, I have one question about lumpsum amount investing. Let’s say I have 20 Lakhs of corpus which I want to deploy as lumpsum (it can be one-shot or staggered way too).
Given that below are the 2 goals of mine, the respective funds and its splits, how would you suggest to split and invest those 20 Lakhs across these funds?
Goal 1: Retirement Planning (1 Lakh)
1. Index (Nifty 50) Fund (40%, 40,000)
2. Large & Mid Cap Fund (60%, 60000)
Goal 2: Returns Making (1 Lakh)
1. Flexi Cap Fund (50%, 50,000)
2. Multi Cap Fund Fund (20%, 20,000)
3. Multi-Asset Allocation Fund (30%, 30,000)
One easy way to think about this is to split the funds equally and spread it across all funds.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for simplifying the mutual funds for common people like me. After reading through it I started investing.
I am 25 years old and below is my investment plan for a goal for a monthly SIP of Rs 5000.
1. Large & Mid Cap Fund (50%)
2. Flexi Cap Fund (50%)
Now, I want to increase my monthly SIP to Rs 10000.
Should I continue with the above funds with the same allocation percentage? Or, do you suggest to add another fund? If yes, which one and what will be the allocation percentage overall then?
Yes, if I were you, I;d invest more in both these funds instead of adding new funds.
Hi Karthik,
1. As per the reports published last year, more than 80% of large cap funds beat their benchmark and gave good returns whereas on the other hand 48 out of 52 nifty 50 index funds failed to beat their benchmark. Should this be a concern? the large cap active funds were struggling since the time Sebi introduced the total return index (TRI). Have they finally find a way to beat their benchmark? what is the reason behind the index funds failure?
2. Please help me on this as I have finalised my list of mutual funds. three index funds (nifty 50, nifty next 50 and nifty midcap 150) and one flexi cap fund.
Now I’m just confused whether to go for large cap active fund rather than nifty 50 index fund.
3. Also I could see few index funds like midcap 150 momentum 50, midcap 150 quality 50, nifty 50 value 20. how these funds differ from their traditional index funds? are these better option to invest rather than midcap 150 & nifty 50?
Your insights on this will be really helpful.
1) With index funds, the idea is not to beat the benchmark but to match the returns of the benchmark. The reason is tracking error. There will be some difference between actual index return and the return you’d experience as an index fund investor, but that difference will be small.
2) For this, I’d suggest you speak to a good financial advisor, dont think I can advice 🙂
3) Again, this depends on what your financial goal is and how much time you are willing to give your goal. There are plenty of index funds and varieties. You need to understand what works for you 🙂
Hi Karthik,
To add more to my point,
lets consider 2 scenarios.
scenario 1 : opting for large cap fund
My pick was ICICI prudential bluechip fund. Lets consider 11 years of investment. The SIP amount is 10000 per month. The annualised return of this fund is 17.57%. This would have generated a sum of Rs. 37,60,511.
Scenario 2 : opting for index fund
My pick was Bandhan nifty 50 index fund and ICICI prudential nifty next 50 index fund. Lets consider the same 11 years of investment. The SIP amount invested is 5000 per month in each of these funds. The annualised return of these funds are 14.27% and 17.8% respectively. This would have generated Rs. 15,82,547 and Rs. 19,64,178 respectively (Total 35,46,725)
By looking at the above scenarios, large cap fund tend to beat the index fund right? what am I missing here? Also, I didn’t pick any star active fund here.
My investment horizon is for at least 20 years. But I considered 11 years because the funds that i considered is 11 years old.
Please enlighten me on this. I’m so confused to choose between large cap active fund and index funds.
And for midcap category, I’m convinced to go for index funds to avoid risks as this category is highliy volatile. Am I right here? or considering the 20 year investment period should I take risk and go for active mid cap fund?
If you have any other suggestions apart from these are much welcome.
Sridhar, I think in India, there is still scope for an active fund to beat the market. At least thats how it has been for so long. But since we are forward looking 20 years, the question you need to as is – will this out performance continue during your period of investment? If yes, then yes, an active fund makes sense. If no, then you are better off with an index fund.
Thanks Karthik for your response. Now I can able to get it that it entirely depends on how much risk we are willing to take.
Please let me know what will you choose if you are in my shoes.
1. Large cap active funds vs nifty 50 + nifty next 50 index funds
2. Midcap active funds vs midcap index funds
1) Nifty 50
2) Active
Hii Karthik
Thanks for amazing articles
Few queries
1.can you suggest good MF category for 1 to 2 year for good return
2.best mf category or combination for retirement planning i e for 20+ year
3.Can we use suggest best mf category combination
For 5 years 10 year 15 ,20 and 25 year
Unfortunately I cant as I’m not a certified advisor. But this also depends on your goals. Please do take help of a professional advisor for this.
I am recently retired and want to invest in Mutual Fund. Can you suggest few portfolios either for lumpsum or SIP. Let us also assume, I may need systematic withdrawal from 2028. You may pl consider, I have one crore in my hand.
Ah Ashok, I’m not sure if I can suggest funds. I’d suggest you speak to a Registered Investment Advisor for this, they can help you plan the portfolio better.
Thank you for writing this informative chapter. Can you please help me understand this part?
“As an investor, build your portfolio so that the overlap between funds is minimum. Eliminating overlap is very tough; the idea is to ensure its minimum. Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly”
If I invest say 10000 in two funds each in the same category with the same expense ratio, or 20000 in one of them, I will end up paying the same amount. How do I save on cost by minimizing overlap?
Thanks
Here you will be investing in two funds, which in turn has same set of stocks. Your returns will be similar. So the idea is to minimize such overlaps.
Hi Karthik Sir,
Hope everything is good…
We have heard of SIP and Lumpsum but what about SWP? Since it has been a trendy topic in these recent days. Is it more powerful than SIP rather than Withdrawal of money at a single shot why not withdraw from the middle as the remaining corpus will accumulate the withdrawal Money.
I would like to hear about this because i’m not fully known about this….
SWP is the opposite of SIP, where in you systematically withdraw funds over time. Will probably write about it in detail in Varsity blog.
Hello Karthik, great set of lessons i feel im late to learn all this but i know its never too late. In most of the chapters you are discussing about returns in debt and equity in various time periods. But the returns are not the take home money right, there is some important tax component like STCG and LTCG it would be best to include the tax component and let the readers know the modified returns like you explained the expense ratio.
Glad you liked the content here, Abhimanyu. CAGR is not the return you take home, but rather the growth rate you experience. The return you take home is absolute return on which taxes are applicable.
CAGR is crucial when making investment decisions.
Hi Karthik Sir,
I have a doubt again…. like I started to figure out my goals and trying to find the fund categories as you taught in this module.
For the goal to have a retirement fund and taught of investing in index funds… While analysing these funds does not have any major difference with AMC as this is a passive and Tracking index. So do this hold any major difference between other AMC’s funds than TER and Allocation Category.
Do we need to focus more on finding the best index fund?
Yeah, keep an eye on the TER, that is one of the most important aspects.
Dear Karthik Sir,
Should I go for large cap and midcap fund OR multicap fund.
I am little confused on this.
Please help on this
This depends on your portfolio goals, right?
Sir,
i have three mf sip
1. Kotak Bluechip – 1,000
2. Tata Midcap – 1,000
3. SBI Multicap – 1,000
I need your guidance on this as i need only two SIP to continue only. OR should i continue with these three.
Please guide as per your experience.
I think there could be overlaps b/w Kotak and SBI. If I were you’s I’d probably stick to Kotak and Tata, but then its based on what I think. Your situation could be different, so I’d suggest you speak to some good RIA to figure this 🙂
Can i rebalance this? Need your strong advise.
1. Kotak Bluechip – 1,000
2. Nifty 50 Index fund – 1,000
Total Large cap – 2,000
3. Tata Midcap – 2,000
Total Midcap – 2000
This seems ok, but why two large cap MFs? Is that to diversify b/w AMCs?
Yes sir
Dear Karthik Sir,
I want to invest 5,000 monthly sip for life time till my retirement. My current age is 36.
Can you guide which fund will be suitable for me.
Ah, I cant help you pin point to a fund. But if I were you, I’d pick and index fund 🙂
Dear Karthik Sir,
Please mention which index fund.
Nifty 50
Next 50
Nifty 500
Nifty 150
Nifty 250
It depends on your risk profile.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for the great article! I had a query regarding the cost aspect when investing in multiple funds of the same type. To quote the article,
“As an investor, build your portfolio so that the overlap between funds is minimum. Eliminating overlap is very tough; the idea is to ensure its minimum. Otherwise, you just end up paying just to get the same exposure and costs can eat into your returns significantly.”
My doubt is, irrespective of whether I invest INR 10k in one fund or INR 5k each in two funds, wouldn’t the cost be the same? (Assuming both have similar expense ratios).
While I completely agree that there is no point in having multiple funds with overlap, there is often variation in some of the fund returns even though they belong to the same category, so wouldn’t it be a good idea to spread our money across a few different promising funds of the category we are interested in (to smooth out the variation/volatility in the various fund returns). Once again, thanks for the insightful information!
Ayushman, most people wont split their investments the way you suggest. More often than not, its random. Yes, if you split this the way you suggested then it adds AMC diversification. You can do this if you fear one of the AMC can go kaput.
Sir,
Regarding a hyper long term investment, I have decided to park money in only growth Index funds.
However, for investment in midcap & small cap, should I park money in both index funds and MF? Or only MF will be suggestable in this segment? Please advise.
There are mid cap index funds too, that are good. You can check that as well.
Sir,
I want to park some money in gold, however, confused on mode to invest. Could you kindly suggest the mode- MF/ETF?
If MF, I am seeing all such MFs to be FoF? I request you to please help/guide me take decision.
Thats right, most of these funds are FoF, which invest back in an ETF of sorts. Thats ok, but be aware of the expense ratio.
Sir,
Although I had asked in the previous query, I would like you to specifically guide me (considering hyper long term investment ,25+ yrs):
(i) Whether to go for both index and MF for midcap/smallcap? If it is yes, pls help with a generic proportion to invest for index and MF for mid and small cap.
(ii) There is an index fund for micro fund also. Is it advisable to keep that in portfolio?
1) I’d say avoid smallcap, but maybe large and mid cap. Assuming you are young, you can do 60 large and 40 mid. But please double check with a qualified advisor once for this.
2) I personally prefer index.
3) Not sure, but even if its there, I’d hesitate to include that in my portfolio.
Sir,
Regarding diversification, is it advisable to invest in REIT MF? May be 10%?
Meanwhile, I have no idea of this REIT investment and come across below 4 REITs:
1. Kotak International REIT FOF (Growth & IDCW-Interim)
2. Mahindra Manulife Asia Pacific REITs FOF(Growth & IDCW-Interim).
Could you kindly suggest which one to take for and how these two funds from two houses differ? Also, I believe growth will be more prominent to take for?
Request your kind inputs.
Sir,
I could find two types of investments in real estate- REIT & REMF. Which one will be best suited for long term? Any advice on it?