5.1 – Overview
As the name suggests, a single candlestick pattern is formed by just one candle. So as you can imagine, the trading signal is generated based on 1 day’s trading action. The trades based on a single candlestick pattern can be extremely profitable provided the pattern has been identified and executed correctly.
One needs to pay some attention to the length of the candle while trading based on candlestick patterns. The length signifies the range for the day. In general, the longer the candle, the more intense is the buying or selling activity. If the candles are short, it can be concluded that the trading action was subdued.
The following picture gives a perspective on the long/short – bullish, and bearish candle.
The trades have to be qualified based on the length of the candle as well. One should avoid trading based on subdued short candles. We will understand this perspective as and when we learn about specific patterns.
5.2 – The Marubozu
The Marubozu is the first single candlestick pattern that we will understand. The word Marubozu means “Bald” in Japanese. We will understand the context of the terminology soon. There are two types of marubozu – the bullish marubozu and the bearish marubozu.
Before we proceed, let us lay down the three important rules about candlesticks. We looked at it in the previous chapter; I’ve reproduced the same for quick reference:
- Buy strength and sell weakness.
- Be flexible with patterns (verify and quantify)
- Look for the prior trend.
Marubozu is probably the only candlestick pattern that violates rule number 3, i.e., looking for a prior trend. A Marubozu can appear anywhere in the chart irrespective of the prior trend; the trading implication remains the same.
The textbook defines Marubozu as a candlestick with no upper and lower shadow (therefore appearing bald). A Marubozu has just the real body, as shown below. However, there are exceptions to this. We will look into these exceptions shortly.
The red candle represents the bearish marubozu, and the blue represents the bullish marubozu.
5.3 – Bullish Marubozu
The absence of the upper and lower shadow in a bullish marubozu implies that the low is equal to the open and the high is equal to the close. Hence whenever the Open = Low and High = close, a bullish marubozu is formed.
A bullish marubozu indicates that there is so much buying interest in the stock that the market participants were willing to buy the stock at every price point during the day, so much so that the stock closed near its high point for the day. It does not matter what the prior trend has been, the action on the marubozu day suggests that the sentiment has changed and the stock is now bullish.
The expectation is that with this sudden change in sentiment, there is a surge of bullishness, and this bullish sentiment will continue over the next few trading sessions. Hence a trader should look at buying opportunities with the occurrence of a bullish marubozu. The buying price should be around the closing price of the marubozu.
In the chart above (ACC Limited), the encircled candle is a bullish marubozu. Notice the bullish marubozu candle does not have a visible upper and a lower shadow. The OHLC data for the candle is: Open = 971.8, High = 1030.2, Low = 970.1, Close = 1028.4
Please notice the textbook definition of a marubozu Open = Low, and High = Close. However, in reality, there is a minor variation to this definition. The price variation is not much when measured in percentage terms, for example, the variation between high and close is 1.8, which as a percentage of high is just 0.17%. This is where the 2nd rule applies – Be flexible, Quantify and Verify.
With this occurrence of a marubozu the expectation has turned bullish, and hence one would be a buyer of the stock. The trade setup for this would be as follows:
Buy Price = Around 1028.4 and Stoploss = 970.0
As it is evident, candlestick patterns do not give us a target. However, we will address the issue of setting targets at a later stage in this module.
Having decided to buy the stock, when do we actually buy the stock? The answer to this depends on your risk appetite. Let us assume two types of a trader with different risk profiles – the risk-taker and the risk-averse.
The risk-taker would buy the stock on the same day as the marubozu is being formed. However, the trader needs to validate the occurrence of a marubozu. Validating is quite simple. Indian markets close at 3:30 PM. So, around 3:20 PM one needs to check if the current market price (CMP) is approximately equal to the high price for the day, and the opening price of the day is approximately equal to the low price the day. If this condition is satisfied, you know the day is forming a marubozu, you can buy the stock around the closing price. It is also essential to note that the risk-taker is buying on a bullish/blue candle day, thereby following rule 1, i.e., buying on strength and selling on weakness.
The risk-averse trader would buy the stock on the next day, i.e. the day after the pattern has been formed. However, before buying the trader, ensure that the day is a bullish day to comply with rule number 1. This means the risk-averse buyer can buy the stock only around the close of the day. The disadvantage of buying the next day is that the buy price is way above the suggested buy price, and therefore the stoploss is quite deep. However, as a trade-off, the risk-averse trader is buying only after doubly confirming that the bullishness is indeed established.
As per the ACC’s chart above, both the risk taker and the risk-averse would have been profitable in their trades.
Here is another example (Asian Paints Ltd) where both the risk-taker, and the risk-averse trader would have been profitable.
Here is an example where the risk-averse trader would have benefited :
Notice in the chart above, a bullish marubozu has been encircled. The risk-taker would have initiated a trade to buy the stock on the same day around the close, only to book a loss on the next day. However, the risk-averse would have avoided buying the stock entirely because the next day happened to be a red candle day. Going by the rule, we should buy only on a blue candle day and sell on a red candle day.
5.4 – The Stoploss on Bullish Marubozu
What if after buying, the market reverses its direction and the trade goes wrong? Like I had mentioned earlier, candlestick patterns come with an inbuilt risk management mechanism. In case of a bullish marubozu, the low of the stock acts as a stoploss. So after you initiate a buy trade, if the markets move in the opposite direction, you should exit the stock if price breaches the low of the marubozu.
Here is an example where the bullish marubozu qualified as a buy for both the risk-averse and the risk-taker. The OHLC is : O = 960.2, H = 988.6, L = 959.85, C = 988.5.
But the pattern eventually failed, and one would have booked a loss. The stoploss for this trade would be the low of marubozu, i.e. 959.85.
Booking a loss is a part of the game. Even a seasoned trader goes through this. However, the best part of following the candlestick is that the losses cannot run indefinitely. There is a clear agenda as to what price one has to get out of trade provided the trade starts to move in the opposite direction. In this particular case booking a loss would have been the most prudent thing to do as the stock continued to go down.
Of course, there could be instances where the stoploss gets triggered, and you pull out of the trade. But the stock could reverse direction and start going up after you pulled out of the trade. But unfortunately, this is also a part of the game, and one cannot really help it. No matter what happens, the trader should stick to the rules and not find excuses to deviate from it.
5.5 – Bearish Marubozu
Bearish Marubozu indicates extreme bearishness. Here the open is equal to the high and close the is equal to low. Open = High, and Close = Low.
A bearish marubozu indicates that there is so much selling pressure in the stock that the market participants actually sold at every price point during the day, so much so that the stock closed near its low point of the day. It does not matter what the prior trend has been, the action on the marubozu day suggests that the sentiment has changed and the stock is now bearish.
The expectation is that this sudden change in sentiment will be carried forward over the next few trading sessions, and hence one should look at shorting opportunities. The selling price should be around the closing price of the marubozu.
In the chart above (BPCL Limited), the encircled candle indicates the presence of a bearish marubozu. Notice the candle does not have an upper and a lower shadow. The OHLC data for the candle is as follows:
Open = 355.4, High = 356.0, Low = 341, Close = 341.7
As we had discussed earlier, a minor variation between the OHLC figures leading to small upper and lower shadows is ok as long as it is within a reasonable limit.
The trade on the bearish marubozu would be to short BPCL approximately at 341.7 with a stoploss at the high point of the candle. In this case, the stoploss price is 356.0. Of course, we still haven’t dealt with setting targets at this stage, and we will figure that out much later in this module.
Remember this: Once a trade is initiated, you should hold on to it until either the target is hit or the stoploss is breached. If you attempt to do something else before any one of these event triggers, your trade could most likely go bust. So staying on the course of the plan is extremely crucial.
Trade can be initiated based on the risk appetite of the person. The risk-taker can initiate a short trade on the same day around the closing. Of course, he has to make sure that the candle is forming a bearish marubozu. To do this at 3:20 PM, the trader must confirm if the open is approximately equal to the high and the current market price is equal to the low price. If the condition is validated, then it is a bearish marubozu, a short position can be initiated.
If the trader is risk-averse, he can wait till the next day’s closing. The short trade will go through only by 3:20 PM next day after ensuring that the day is a red candle day. This is also to ensure that we comply with 1st rule – Buy strength, and Sell weakness.
In the BPCL chart above, both risk taker and risk-averse would have been profitable.
Here is another chart, Cipla Limited, where the bearish marubozu has been profitable for both risk-taker, and a risk-averse trader. Remember these are short term trades and one needs to be quick in booking profits.
Here is a chart showing a bearish marubozu pattern that would not have worked out for the risk-taker, but a risk-averse trader would have avoided initiating the trade, thanks to rule 1.
5.6 – The trade trap
Earlier in this chapter, we did discuss the length of the candle. One should avoid trading during a minimal (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
A small candle indicates subdued trading activity, and hence it would be difficult to identify the direction of the trade. On the other hand, a long candle indicates extreme activity. The problem with lengthy candles would be the placement of stoploss. The stoploss would be deep, and in case the trade goes wrong, the penalty for paying would be painful. For this reason, one should avoid trading on candles that are either too short or too long.
Key takeaways from this chapter
- Remember the rules based on which candlesticks work.
- Marubozu is the only pattern which violates rule number 3, i.e. Look for the prior trend.
- A bullish marubozu indicates bullishness.
- Buy around the closing price of a bullish marubozu
- Keep the low of the marubozu as the stoploss
- A bearish marubozu indicates bearishness.
- Sell around the closing price of a bearish marubozu
- Keep the high of the marubozu as the stoploss
- An aggressive trader can place the trade on the same day as the pattern forms.
- Risk-averse traders can place the trade on the next day after ensuring that it obeys rule number 1, i.e. Buy strength, and Sell weakness.
- Abnormal candle lengths should not be traded.
- Short candle indicates subdued activity.
- Long candle indicates extreme activity; however, placing stoploss becomes an issue.
How much of variation in high and low is acceptable in a marubuzo candle pattern. As per rule 2 be flexible with patterns.
Usually if the shadows are within 0.2% to 0.3% of the range it should be ok.
How do we calculate the % can you give an example?
Here is the formula –
(High – Close)/Close.
Is the above formula for bull trend or both?
If not, will the formula for bear trend be :- (high-open)/open
That would be (Close – low)/Close
First of all , I want to thank you for this wonderful lessons. It is so clear and easy to understand for a complete beginner like me.
Now, coming to my problem . I am not confident about the shorting technique. Will you please clarify my doubts.
Say, I want to short a stock X which is currently trading in a bear market at about $100 .
I however, don’t possess this stock . So, how do I sell something that I don’t possess?
Then, when I am confident that this is the appropriate time to buy back (when the trading price is less than $100) , I buy it back. How do I buy back a stock which I never had?
Moreover, the stoploss concept for shorting – does it mean that in case of reverse trade, the stoploss value is the upper limit at which I should buy back with some loss?
It is a concept that you just have to get used to. In stock markets you can sell something that you dont own, provided you buy it back within appropriate time (intraday in case of stocks). This is as good as buying first and selling later, only that the order is reversed in case of shorting.
Yes, when you short the stop loss price is always should be higher than the price at which you short.
Thank you for answering all of my queries in Module 1 ….:)
In Bullish Marubuzo:
1 (high-close)/close For Upper Shadow
2 (low-open)/open For Lower Shadow
In Bearish Marubuzo:
3 (low-close)/close For Lower Shadow
4 (high-open)/open For Upper shadow
If above percentages are in between 0.2% to 0.3% it means pattern exists.
This is what I understood Correct me if any of above formulae is incorrect..:)
You got that right!
Hi Karthik,
While explaining the bullish marubozu, to calculate the percentage of difference(high – close), it was taken as a percentage of the high, hence divided by High.
So, will the formula be (high – close)/high or (high – close)/close ?
Thanks.
It really depends on what you want to measure it against. I do like to measure the range with respect to close, (h-C)/C.
Sir, you explained in subtopic “The trade trap”
One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
Please, provide an example regarding this
Apurva, I’d suggest you look at any short or long candle, its is very hard to place SL on these trades, either they are too shallow or gets too risky (long candles).
Can you confirm To day Jindal Steel has formed a Bullish Marubozu? As you said, The variation of Upper and l,ower shadows are 0.2 to 0.3 5 ok..But Here Shadows are more than that?Please let me know whether i should consider this one as a Bullish Marubozu..?
For reasons that you have stated (upper and lower shadow) this would not qualify as a Marubuzo.
How much of variation in Open and Close is acceptable in marubuzo candle pattern. As per rule 2 be flexible with patterns.
Below the data of Rajoo Engineers from 23th October’18 – Can we consider it as bearish marubuzo candle ?
O= 30.80, H= 30.80 , L= 29.30 , C= 29.45
The length of the shadows should not be more than 1% of the length of the real body.
Is it that:
Length of Upper shadow + Length of Lower Shadow should be less than 1% of the length of the real body or
Length of either upper or lower shadow should be less than 1% of the length of the real body.
It is either actually. A marubuzo is not supposed to have any shadow in the first place. YOu can be flexible (but measured) with one side shadow, but if its either ways then the price action is saying something else.
Sir what is the time frame of all the above patterns in the the above examples… In the daily chart if a bullish marubozu is formed then next day which time frame should I look upon… Is it 15 mint or 5 mint
I personally prefer 15 mins, Vivek. For swing trades, I prefer EOD charts.
Can you please explain this a bit more?
If we are waiting for the EOD to make the trade where does the 5 minute and 15 minute candle come into picture?
Thank you.
The 5 and 15 mins come into picture when dealing with intraday trades.
Hey… in point 5.3 you pointed at the red candle day and blue candle day. What does it actually mean there is the candle encircled the first one for the day???????
Please explain …. May be I am late till you have written this page but “der aaye durust aaye”.
please clarify
Sapna, red candle = represents bearishness and blue candle = bullishness. Have explained this and the previous chapter.
Hello Karthik,
Am new to trade and i gone thru this Marubozu candlesticks chapter one we calculate entire day Bullish/Bearish will give result for next day trade?
Example today DHFL is Bullish so it should be bullish day on next day(trade)?
Thanks.
AK
The expectation is that that it the bullishness will continue, but of course thats just a probability 🙂
Buy in strength and sell in weakness means buying in high price and selling low price. Have I misunderstood it. Kindly explain.
Yes, that is correct.
Why one should book loss by buying high and selling low . Plz explain.
Booking a loss really depends on the stoploss! So if the situation demands, then it does make sense to book a loss!
I have a very absurd doubt. Why should i buy when the price is high and less when the price is low. How am i making a profit then. Shouldnt it be the other way sround?
You buy if you feel that the price is going to go higher. You sell if you feel the prices are going lower than where they are today.
Let me clear the fog:
1.When will you buy?
Ans is not at down trend, rather when you see a up trend and you hope for more bulls (strength) upcoming. So, buy strength.
2. Again when will you sell?
You are watching market going down (weak) and calculating that at some point you will lose all you profit earned. So, before that happens, you must sell at whatever maximum profit you can retain from the trade. So sell weakness.
Now, coming to your confusion, as you told it will be a loss buying at higher and selling at lower, it’s 100% correct only when you will exit from the trade forever and never come back to market. But, here, I can suppose you will continue trading after having already faced the above loss, thinking that ‘let me give another try and this time I surely make an attempt to gain something’. And that is the point. Now, read above point 1. So, you will wait for bull. And after some reasonable time, when market revives again you will gain. This is nothing but Shorting, as good named. Hope it’s cleared now. And if not, please tell me.
Hi Karthik,
I am a beginner and these docs are worth of bullish Marubuzo.
As many have asked same question, how does buying at high price and selling at low price makes sense, What I have understood is, you buy a stock as it is forming the Marubuzo and have a stop loss if the stock going down. Is that correct or it means something else?
Thanks.
Well, selling at low price in this context refers to the stop loss price. You only sell at stop loss if you are making a loss. Else you always aim to sell at a price higher than what you’ve bought.
Isn’t buying at high price and selling at low price counter intuitive?
Not really – you are buying strength and selling weakness.
Just feel sitting in the auditorium of Harward university listening a great but simple lecture of renowned professor
Glad to know you are liking the content 🙂
Hi Karthik please let me know what min chart need to follow to find a morbozu and how to check the OHLC PRICE of any morbozu candle.
Candlestick patterns are applicable on any asset any time frame. I would suggest you start with EOD chart and once you are comfortable, you can start looking for these in intraday charts as well.
Today (7th nov) around 105.6 Bullish Marubuzo was formed in RCOM intraday chart and from that it crossed a high of 109.7.
Its due to your article it was easy for me to predict it. Thanks.
Good to know that hawwa !
Please let me know if there any system to know in an candle formation, what is total buy quantity and what is total sell quantity.
It would be hard to distinguish this Raj. One good way make some sense of this is by looking into the volumes.
karthik Ji, If a volume bar represents both buy and sell qty together, its difficult to know from volume also, what is tot buy and tot sell, because every buy is result of some sell obviously and vis versa. kya kia jay…
Suggest you read through this about volumes – http://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/volumes/
Umm The pic for the Bearish Marubuzo has blue ears.. that got me off guard ..
Otherwise Great content
that pic should have red ears… hehe 🙂
🙂
Hi,
Is it good to use the Single candle pattern for Intraday trading? I see Bull and bear candles in 1 minutes, if I chose 5-15 minutes, the picture varies. So is that ok if I use 1 minute candle for Intraday and catch the bull and bear candle to execute my trade?
Yes, you can use single candlestick patter for intra day, however I would advice you to stick to 5 or 15 minute candles. Remember the higher the candle frequency, the better is the reliability.
Please explain more about the meaning of your sentence”Reliability vs Timeframe vs Frequency” in a bit more details.
I’ve tried to summarize the time frame and the reliability. The idea is that the shorter the time frame, the higher is the noise level. Given this, I tend to rely more on a 10 mins chart as opposed to a 5 mins chart.
Hi KARTHIK,
It was a great learning for me as i am beginner.
Can you please give an idea about approximate %accuracy in prediction by Marubuzo candlestick pattern in your own trading career?
Thank you so much,
Glad to know you liked it 🙂
I’ve personally found marubuzo’s quite interesting. Remember not all candlestock patterns work on all stocks. For example marubuzo may work extremely well on HDFC bank but may fail when it comes to ICICI. You as a trader need to identify this and develop a list mapping candlestick vs stocks. This is obviously time consuming and will come to you by experience.
How can a candlestick pattern/technique be a stock dependent?
If a technique works, it should work for all stocks and be applied uniformly.
Or is it just a hit and trial / coincident that this works for some stocks and doesn’t for others?
This is purely a personal observation – not all candlestick patterns work on all stocks (in the same efficiency). For example, bullish engulfing may work extremely well on Infy but may fail often on SBIN. Hence the need to backtest. Good luck!
Why do these candlestick patterns work though ? Is it because these patterns are very well known to the public and everyone acts the same way when that pattern is formed which is why most of the time we get the expected result ?but if there is some other fundamental news about that stock , then the patterns give results differently …..am I correct ?
Sahil, the underlying theme is price-action, and candles are just a manifestation of the same. When a certain price behavior occurs, the traders tend to react the same way, all the time. Perhaps this is the reason.
HELLO DEEPESH SIR I AM A BEGINER AS WELL BUT IN 2018 , WELL I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS YOUR TRADING EXPERIENCE IN LAST 4 YEARS ??
What is a blue candle day or red candle day. In intraday trading can I enter position (buying or selling)as soon as I see a bullish or bearish Marbuzo.
A blue candle day represents bullishness and a red candle day represents bearishness. Yes, you can enter a position based on Marubuzo on a intra day basis.
Great start Karthik!
I haven’t been using candlesticks so far, but reading this article, I feel I have missed so much in this past 2 months of trading.
Hats off!
Thanks Aastroguru…market is an ocean of opportunities, old ones cease and new ones are created everyday, we just need the insights to spot them..so don’t worry about it 🙂
Great material karthik
If i am an averse trader and if i am trading some stock based on 2nd day bullish marubuzo candlestick than which value i should select as a stoploss value , 1st day marubuzo candlestick low value or 2nd day low value?
It is always good to keep the pattern day low as the stoploss. However be flexible with this, if the price has run up quite a bit on 2nd day then no point keeping pattern day low as the SL as it would be too deep. This also explains why we have the risk to reward ratio as one the checklist items while qualifying a trade.
what is the thought behind keeping stoploss at the pattern day low and no where above?
The low and high points is when there was a change in sentiment. Traders use this point hoping the sentiment prevails over the next few trading session. I personally prefer when the SL coincides with the support / resistance along with the day’s high low.
Sir, |Can we use marubuzo candlesticks in commodity intra day trading. which commodity is most suited? which candle should i use. 5/15/30 .
Yes, you can use Marubuzo on commodities. In fact you can use candlestick patterns on any asset class as long as the asset has time series data. As a thumb rule, longer the time frame, the better it is.
Hey,
Great initiative. Thanks a lot.
I have a doubt.
In the example given in “5.4 – The Stoploss on Bullish Marubuzo” you have given that “But the pattern eventually failed and one would have booked a loss. The stoploss for this trade would be the low of marubuzo, i.e 959.85″….
I can’t understand this point. The candle is bullish and even the next day is bullish. But how do you say the pattern failed.?
Guru, notice after the pattern occurred what followed were a series of red candles triggering the stop loss.
in case of Bullish Marubuzo, how the risk averse trader will benefit. As written above that he will buy only after confirming the rule 1 ie buy on bullish day, at the end of second day then how he is going to be in profit— shown in ACC chart.
He will buy the stock with a stop loss of the previous day low. He will hold on to it till the target is hit of the SL is triggered.
Hi
Bearish Marubozu indicates a sell call. So Why is there a stoploss for a bearish marubozu?
When a sell call is indicated you can initiate a short trade. However, what is the Sell Call is a wrong signal? Hence a SL is required. In fact for all signals we need a SL.
U r great
🙂
Dear Karthik , how much of relaxation can be allowed for difference in high &Close, open&low in a bullish Marubozu.?
Ex:1 rupee for a 1000/- stock
I usually have a 1% of the days range as relaxation on the shadows.So if its a 1000 stock if the length of the shadow is about 10 or less its ok.
Karthik,
Could. You elaborate. This. Answer .
So a marubuzo by definition does not have upper or lower shadow. But keeping the flexibility rule in perspective, one can consider candles with short shadows as marubuzo. So the question is, how short the shadows should be in order to qualify as a marubuzo. To give you a perspective, it should be around 10 or less for a 1000 Rupee stock.
First of all, I sincerely thank you for your Varsity initiative.
I just have a small doubt. Most of the candle stick patterns (both single and multiple) you explained here talk about their utility for trades spread over multiple days.
Do they work well even in intra day trading?
For example, will the Marubozu, Bullish Engulfing Pattern, paper umbrella, and Spinning tops work well for intra day trading?
If they do work for intra day trading then what interval should we be studying (five minutes, fifteen minutes, etc).?
Thank you, and I’m glad you liked Varsity. We are putting in our best efforts to ensure you get the best content, so please stay tuned 🙂
Yes, concepts of TA can be applied across all time frames and asset classes. So the same patterns holds true for intraday as well. However if you are starting out fresh, I would advice you to swing trade for sometime before you can attempt intraday.
U refered to swimg trading. Is it the same as positional trading? If yes then what time frames to look in that sort of trading i.e the lookback period and if no then what is positional trading?
Swing trading and positional trading are pretty much the same where one enters a trade today with an expectation of holding on to such trades for few days or months. Look back period should be at least 6 months of end of day data.
Thank you sir for your timely reply.
Most welcome!
For clarification: Marubuzo is getting confirmed after the day closure or before 3:20PM & the trading decision will be for the next day.
Will Marubuzo can be applied for the same day?
The confirmation of a Marubuzo is only towards the close of the day – ard 3:20 PM. If you are a risk taker you can initiate the trade same day, else you can take it the next day after getting a confirmation.
In case its a bearish Marubozu, We can not initiate the trade on Cash segment after 3:20 as zerodha does not allow us to carry MIS/Shortsell trades overnight, any alternatives beside F&O being offered by zerodha?
Nope, your only option here is F&O.
which is the best platform to identify the candlestick patterns clearly? can i go for Z5 candlestick chart or something like amibroker?
Even better would be Zerodha Pi 🙂 Check this – http://zerodha.com/pi/
Thank you for your immediate response. If i place AMO for any script in the evening when it will be placed?Before 9:15?
Nope, it will go after the markets open, post 9:15 AM.
for intra day trading which time frame is ideal to be used 5 min or 15 min or 60 min?
I’d prefer a 15 min or a 5 min candle, nothing beyond that.
Sir
Is there indicator which gives percentage change for small and bid candles
The change with respect to the previous close will give you this.
It would be quite helpful, if alongwith the sample charts the date range is also mentioned so that we can also try to find such patterns on moneycontrol or rediff etc.
Makes sense, will keep this in mind while posting charts.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for the nice piece!
Extract from section 5.4 “Earlier in this chapter we did discuss about the length of the candle. One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).”
What is the range you are referring to here. How do i calculate that range ? Can you elaborate on this pls.
Thanks in advance!
Rgds,
This is mainly from the SL perspective. If the candle is too small (below 1%) then a there is a good chance of getting stopped out in case the volatility increases through the day. Likewise in case of a long candle (above 10%) the stop loss will be too deep, and in case you are proved wrong then you will pay a huge price for the trade. Also with long candles the risk and reward gets highly skewed. Best to avoid trades on such candles.
Thanks I got the SL point you said.
But you are expressing percentage points 1% and 10% here. From which number are you deriving this %?
For a stock of value Rs 1000, on one day if it’s trades in a range ( range= day high – day low) of Rs 10 ( ie 1% of Rs 1000) it forms a short candle?
Thanks for your patience!
Precisely, the % is with reference to the range of the day.
Hi Karthik,
you mean % change for the day. i’m right? if i wrong means, pls correct me.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, % change on a EOD basis.
Hi Karthik,
I am referring to the nifty 1 hr candle of 7/14. There it has gone up to 8554 from 8515. So the rise is not 1% even. So it is not satisfying the buy case then?
Yes, it would. You need to set the SL accordingly based on hourly charts. Also, I personally feel EOD charts contain quality information when compared to an hourly chart in particular.
Karthik sir,
1.On 16-2-18 , Bharti Airtel
Open = High = 434.95 , Low = 418.4 , Close = 419.7 , (Low-Close)/Close is 0.31%
I think this can be taken as a bearish marubozu by being flexible. What’s your take?
2. And how to calculate the 1% and 10% range(I’m confused) – from The Trade Trap
What is the percentage range for this stock? How is it calculated?
For an aggressive trader , if he wishes to trade around the end of 16-2-18 , what is the range he would rely on?
((High of 16.2.18) – (Low of 16.2.18)) / (Close of 15.2.18) Is this what you refer to should be within 1% to 10%?
For a risk averse trader , if he wishes to trade on next trading session i.e 19-2-18,(It is a red candle day), What is the range he will be relying on? Marubozu day’s range or trading day’s? ie.,
Will it be a) ((High of 16.2.18) – (Low of 16.2.18)) / (Close of 15.2.18) ?
or b) ((High of 19.2.18) – (Low of 19.2.18)) / (Close of 16.2.18) ?
3. Can Marubozu be used to trade only during the end of the day?
1) Yes
2) You can take the real body which is the difference between high and low divided by avg of high and low.
3) Yes, its best if you wait till EOD (near market close) to be absolutely sure about the pattern formation.
Thanks sir
2) Could you please explain with an example?
a) Isn’t real body the difference between Open and Close?
Hi, I am more comfortable shorting stocks. But we can do that intraday only. Is there any way by which I can short stocks for more than one day (except options…..I dont do options).
Shorting over multiple days is quite easy with futures. If you are leverage averse, then do check out the SLBS option on NSE – http://www.nseindia.com/products/content/equities/slbs/slbs.htm
Dear Karthik, A great set of notes for beginners like me. Thanks for the work, I have very basic doubt. Here is the scenario. I see a bullish candle pattern and indicators/volumes also confirm a bullish trend. So I get into a long position by buying the shares and holding for a time upto which I feel the trend is bullish and sell them for a profit. On the other hand if I happen to see a bearish trend , how can I hold the short position for the long time, meaning how can I sell the shares , hold the short position till the trend is bearish and cover them once there is a change in trend and realize profit ? Because we can go for a short sell only in intraday. Please explain.
Thanks, and I’m glad you are finding Varsity useful. In order to do this, as in short positions and carry it forward you will have to employ futures. We have started the module on Futures, its half way tru, please do have a look at it as well. Thanks.
Hi karthik, I want to ask you àbout shorting please explain it. Can we hold the stock for days in sell call ?
In fact the 8th chapter in the Futures module will discuss shorting in detail. It will be uploaded sometime during this (or maybe next) week. Thanks.
Hi Karthik,
To day Suven Life Sciences Open = 249, Low= 243, High = 298 and Close = 294.85, So with this data, Can i expect it as formed a Bullish Marubozu and Can i buy tomorrow?
Hi Saikiran, In my view its not a Marubozu as lower shadow is close to 3%. its a bullish engulfing candle. though on good volumes, resistance levels cant be seen due to all time high. in my view trade should not be taken on this as very deep stop loss i.e, 44 Rs. on a scrip of 290.
Wow! You just echoed my thoughts Devaki 🙂
Hi Devaki Nandan
Thanks for your Views and thanks to Karthik also.
Hi,
Yesterday and to day also Diamond power has hit 20% hit Circuit Breaker with good Volumes and formed a Bullish Marubozu, So can we expect this trend will continue for few days as for Technicals?
Please be aware if the stock has rallied 40% in two days then there has to be some fundamental reason or maybe some insider news. Applying TA on such stocks can be bit tricky.
Most Welcome !
sir good morning
how u calculate this 3 %
That is the range, Shishir.
Couple of things –
1) The closing and high data seems ok
2) The Opening and low data are not really equal (even after accommodating for the be flexible, quantify, and verify rule)
3) But from the general description of the candle, it seems that the stock is bullish, hence conducive for a long trade
4) However my worry would be on the SL placement. Since the range is large, keeping a meaningful SL would be very difficult.
Good luck.
Sir the content is very simple to understand..Good mix of examples as well for making the whole stuff pretty clear for beginners like me..I have one query..After reading article on Maribozu i tried to spot few in real time EOD charts..I found that if i take a position as a risk averse trader mostly i am in loss as either my initial SL is hit or even if i try to trail SL it is hit which leads to small losses or for that matter hardly some profit…How to make the trade really profitable ? When to exit after initiation of trade i.e how to calculate the targets??
Glad to know you liked the content Kirti 🙂
Have you completed reading through the TA module, towards the end of the module we have introduced a checklist based on which you should identify trade. Suggest you read through it and follow the checklist, I’m certain you will have better trading success. Good luck.
Hi Karthik,
Is PNB formed a Hammer on 27-03-2015?
Regards,
SaikiranGarapati
It certainly looks like!
Hi Kathik Sir,
TVS Motor has formed Bullish Engulfing Pattern? As you said, Risk averse trade can initiate a trade now onwards?
Regards,
SaikiranGarapati.
Yes, it looks like TVS has formed a bullish engulfing pattern. However the risk averse should have initiated the trade on the last day day…I’m afraid it could be bit late to initiate the trade now (especially if there is a gap up on Monday morning).Also please do check for other credentials on the check list.
Suppose day 1 is a bullish/bearish marubujo day. So, will the risk averse trader buy /sell stocks at the day 2’s closing price ? And will risk taker trader buy/sell stocks at closing price of day1?
Yes, that is correct.
Hi Karthik, First of all thank you very much for this excellent contents.
My question is do risk averse trader has to wait till day-2 closing price till 3:20 pm or he can take position in the beginning of the day.
Thank you in advance.
Very honestly, this is situation based. There are times when I have initiated position right at the open.
Best Chapter. But plz.make a chapter for, if someone has two trading a/c, then how he can earn more money using some tips & tricks like this. I thing they must exist & there are people who use more than one a/c. Broker people i think get advantage using this.
No in fact I have nearly 5 or 6 trading accounts with different brokers and I see not advantage having so many 🙂
Suppose I invested in share XYZ if its up or at resistant level & I dont know if it will go more up or down. Then I buoght in on a/c & Sell in other a/c. Will it profit ? I know one will happen out of these two, either it will go up or down. In one a/c i will lost money & in other a/c I will earn. In this case, how should I minimize my loss ? that’s my question. Since even for me there no extra advantage I had taken so far using 2 a/c.s. thnks for responce !!!
Well, instead of buying in 1 account and selling in the other why dont you try buying both the Call and Put option simultaneously?
In which type of chart Marubozu occur like day chart,weekly charts,monthly charts?
If anyone want to see example chart of Marubozu later then what we do,mean to say like today 15-04-15 and Marubozu formed in any stock on 10-02-15,so how can we see?
You just need to see the end of day charts! I would suggest you use http://www.chartink.com, they are quite good.
friday’s closing the nifty seems to have formed a bearish marobuzo…can you confirm
Yes, and right on top there is a bearish engulfing pattern 🙂
how to find difference between high low and open close for each candle.pleas provide easy method.
The easiest way is to take the data onto excel and plot the difference.
Sir! is this a bearish marubuzo? Can we initiate a short position here?
If so what should be the target keeping. however it has its result on 22nd .
It does look like one, target should be based on the immediate support. However I would be a bit hesitant to initiate a trade based on TA when results are around the corner. Good luck.
Hi,
How can one identify if trade should be lon or short if there are too many marubuzo candle(bullish & bearish both)
Well, you stay away from that scrip 🙂
Dear Sir, In your first query the variations of shadows in Marabozu for high/low are to be within o.2% to 0.3%. where as in an another query by Mr. VenkatReddy you have stated 1% relaxation is allowed. pl. clarify. thanks /regards
Well, I suppose upto 1% should be ok 🙂
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Article is very good and descriptive. Like it.
There is a spelling mistake, its “Marubozu”
Thx 🙂 Will make the changes.
karthik ji
how do we know the target if we initiate any trade as if we are swing trader is the target is next resistance or trend resistance.
in the both the case , some time stock touch trend resistance and some time resistance how we set the target.
thanks
S&R makes a good case for setting targets and stop loss. We can even use the volatility of the stock to set targets and stop loss, we will talk about in the next few chapters (15, 16) in Options Theory.
Great Initiative Karthik !! The practical example from Indian market was awesome.
I really appreciate your dedication towards the each queries of your users. Please keep doing this , this clears a lot of doubts of a beginner.
Thank you so much Neeraj, really glad you liked it 🙂
Hi Karthik
Can you give some probability numbers for these candlestick patterns based on personal experience. Like Marubozu has 60% of predicting right in your trades. That can give a intuitive feel to the bets one can place using Kelly’s criterion .
Ady…interesting question, but honestly I dont have a direct answer for you. The thing with TA is that not all patterns works on all stocks. So for example if marubozu works well on Stock A, then the same pattern may not work on Stock B. So you as a trader need to evaluate which pattern works well on which stock. For example you could try this –
1) Pick a stock – say RIL
2) Load the last 3 years OHLC data
3) Visually establish all the marubuzo dates
4) Identify how many have hit SL and how many have hit the target. You can have a simple 5% target rule..where you consider a success if you can book a 5% profit
5) Tabulate of all the trades how many were successful and how many were SL trigerred
So for example if out of 10 trades 6 were successful, then roughly marubuzo works 60% of the times on RIL.
You can do this for all the stocks, across all patterns.
Karthik _/\_
This is a gem of an advice. Thanks for your Varsity initiative.
By this way can we evaluate all company’s stocks? If so what success percentage must we look for to qualify that stock to be performing well on Marubozu,i.e, to initiate trades based on Marubozu?(I think it may depend on the trader..but still I’m just curious to know any rule of thumb?) You have chosen last 3 year data for analysis. Is there any specific reason for that? What’s the most appropriate timeframe?
Yes, this is applicable to all assets that trade. The success rate, depends on the stock, remember every stock has a different risk-reward profile. Last 3 years is to ensure you have sufficient data points. For long term, look for at least 1.5 years of data, for short term, look for 6 or 3 months data.
Thanks Karthik.
Could you please suggest me some websites 1) where I can get historical data of stocks in excel? 2)which acts as a supplement to your varsity ? (Any books, websites, eCourses etc)
You can download the data from Pi. Load the chart and right click to see the download to excel option. Have you read the market wizard series? If not, I’d suggest you give that a read.
Sir, what does the chart pattern of Techmahindra, tell us. There was a sharp fall today, is this bearish engulfing?
It does look like a bearish engulfing pattern.
A bullish morobuzo does not always mean that the trade shall be bullish tomorrow.
However it enhances your odds of making a profit, provided all other factors in the checklist is validated.
SUDESHNABORA
September 8, 2015 at 7:56 am
First of all , I want to thank you for this wonderful lessons. It is so clear and easy to understand for a complete beginner like me.
Now, coming to my problem . I am not confident about the shorting technique. Will you please clarify my doubts.
Say, I want to short a stock X which is currently trading in a bear market at about $100 .
I however, don’t possess this stock . So, how do I sell something that I don’t possess?
Then, when I am confident that this is the appropriate time to buy back (when the trading price is less than $100) , I buy it back. How do I buy back a stock which I never had?
Moreover, the stoploss concept for shorting – does it mean that in case of reverse trade, the stoploss value is the upper limit at which I should buy back with some loss?
Bullish Marubozu in GM Brewries on 23rd September 2015. Let’s see where it takes the stock.
Yeah, and I hope all the other variables in the check list are in place.
Great going so far. I followed the chart and now GM hits 500. Can anybody give a target here
Happy to know that Kirti. By the way, no targets, no tips, no recommendations here. Zerodha Varsity is only about sharing market related knowledge.
Hi, My question is that bulish marbouzo /hammer/bulish engulfing pattern will only be considered for buy if it comes after down trend or we can consider it on going upwards too.
Prior trend doesn’t matter.
Prior trend doesn’t matter in Marubuzo.
yup!
Prior trend for Marubuzo is not required. If the pattern appears after an up trend, then the idea would be to short the asset.
SIR,
your reply is a bit confusing “that prior trend does not matter but the idea is to short the asset if it appears after a uptrend”
Why??
You only explained it that marubozu does not look for any prior trend
Sorry, I think that reply was indeed a bit confusing. Yes, prior trend is not required for Marubuzo.
Mahindra holiday was in uptrend for last 3 months.on 15 it formed bullish marabuzo but on 16 it was bearish.it fell about 5.5%.how to enter in a trend.after how many days of trend START we should enter the trend.
Rajeev TA patterns only enhances the probability, no guarantee they will always work. In fact nothing is a guarantee in markets. Coming to your query, one good way to enter the trend after the trend getting established is to buy/sell when it reaches a moving average – say a 100 or 200 EMA.
Sir
Can you elaborate time frame under consideration.like if I am a swing trader then what should be the look back period,prior trend for candlestick study should be of what duration and wat should be the time frame for candle stick(EOD or weekly)
I would suggest you use 6 month / 3 months data for swing trading. Use these to develop a general sense of direction and you could use the daily candles for further calibrating your trades. Of course, EOD data should be good.
Hi Sir,
I am a bit confused on the point “Buy strength and sell weakness”
How can we make profit when we buy the stocks in bullish time and sell in bearish time.
Would you please elaborate on this point please?
Well, you need to read the entire module for that 🙂
Hi Karthik,
I have been going through the Technical analysis module and the point “Buy Strength and sell weakness” is referred in many of the places. I still have no clue on how this point valid on achieving profits.
But it makes sense when we consider the risk factor of a stock.
Would you please help me here in understanding the point well, so that i can go through TA module once again.
Buy strength means to buy on a day when there is bullishness in the market. Sell strength means to say that you sell on a day when there is bearishness in the market..meaning on a red candle day.
Yep.. I got the point now. buy the share on bullish time, expecting the share price would increase in coming days.. and sell weakness means, shorting the share, expecting its value to deprecate in coming days. Right?
Karthik bro,
Please help me…
I cant figure out a proper calculation for Marubuzo shadow. You taught us that shadow can be < 1% for the pattern to be a buzo.
Lets consider Bullish buzo,
For Upper Shadow calculation, which one of the following is correct?
[(high-close)/(close-open)] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to body range
[(high-close)/high] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to close price.
For lower Shadow calculation, which one of the following is correct?
[(open-low)/(close-open)] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to body range
[(open-low)/high] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to close price.
Much thanks from a budding trader 🙂
Sorry for Lower:
For lower Shadow calculation, which one of the following is correct?
[(open-low)/(open-close)] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to body range
[(open-low)/high] must be < 1? i.e shadow with respect to high price.
Can send you an excel with the calculations.
Karthik bro,
Excel link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4YbuL88T8AMY0p6azMxZGlxMzg/view?usp=sharing
Just so you know this is my first time writing formula’s in excel
If something is weird I can explain my question in more detail 🙂
Thank You
Not bad at all! Seem all good to me!
My only suggestion – separate out the Green and Red patterns.
thank you very much Karthik bro 🙂
Hi karthik,
Can i expect last candle is Hammer or Is it Doji in Techm 6 months Chart?
Please confirm me whether it is in Support Zone or not as i can able to see support on 25-08-2015 and touching the same point of low to da also?
Looks like a Doji. 500 seems like a support area.
this candle has small tail, so will it qualify for bearish maribuzo?
Yup, it does.
want to know this is a good shorting opportunity according to checklist or not-
1. Bearish maubuzo pattern is formed
2. Its formed near support and is about to break it ,if price falls further.
3. Volume is higher than previous days.
4. MACD is confirming. RSI is 34, according to RSI stock is reaching over sold region, so chances of reversal are there?
5. DOW theory- not sure ( my only observation is stock is moving in bracket)
6. RRR – reward=2188-2339= 151, risk(sl)= 2390-2339=51, RRR= 3
sir,
plz tell my calculations are correct or not and should i go for shorting opportunity tomorrow or not?
This sounds good. However please be aware that the support could hold and the stock could bounce. Best way to play this would be via an option set up rather than a naked futures position.
Hi Karthik,
Could you please explain why it would be a good idea to use options here?
Regards,
Rahul Khandelwal
With options, you need not have to worry about the daily M2M. You pay the premium and wait for the trade to evolve.
hi karthik,you are suggesting the trade at 3.20 , which means delivery based or btst,stbt ? by that strategy you may lose intraday trade right? how a range is calculated high-low or open- close?
Or it can be in futures. Range = high – low.
Karthik during this time of market sell-off should we use TA as analysis tool? But as evident I see almost all the stocks falling so I think I’m better trading on Options with CNX Nifty. Please suggest.
TA should help even in this markets. I guess many TA traders have made a killing in this market. Options is a good way to trade these markets.
HI Sir – Your explanation of the concepts are very easy to understand in the first glance. Thanks for such a wonderful article.
I have a following 2 doubts –
1) I find that a company “A” qualifies for the trade as per my analysis, is it possible to buy the share of company “A” today and sell tomorrow (T + 1). I am asking about trading in equities.
If so, How does the settlement happen.
Should I buy the share only in cash? or does Zerodha offers margin to trade?
Also is it possible to sell the share after 2 days? I am asking this as the settlement of a trade takes after T + 3 days..
2) Suppose I Buy 500 shares of company “A” for Rs.100. And I am setting the stop loss as “90”.
My target is not reached today and even stop loss is not triggered. So I want to continue holding this position.
On second day, do I need to specify the stop loss again and target again?
If thats the case, assume the company “A” opens the next day at Rs”85″ which is below my stop loss. can I control this?
1) You can buy today and sell tomorrow (BTST) , suggest you read this post on Z-Connect — http://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/btstatst-buyacquire-today-sell-tomorrow . Since you are selling the shares the very next day, the settlement happens in cash. No, Zerodha does not provide margins for such trades. If you do not sell it off the next day, then you can sell it on T+3 day.
2) SL orders if not filled will be cancelled by end of day. You will have to resend the order again the next day. If the stock opens at 85, then obviously SL wont be triggered.
Thanks sir, for clarifying my doubts..
Welcome!
Hi karthik.
Excellent content. Hats off..
Just one query. I want to start investing long term. Is a comprehensive knowledge of TA necessary for long term investing?
Glad you liked the content here Vysakh 🙂
For long term investment you need to understand the business Fundamentals. I’d suggest you read through the Fundamental Analysis module.
What should be the allowable limit for the shadows in Marubuzu ?
Regards.
About 15% of the day’s range should be good.
i guess u wanted to say 1% and not 15%
Thank You Sir !!
is there any books availible on zerodha varsity ?
reading long time in computer finding it difficult
any pdf format availible ?
Link to download the PDFs are provided at the end of the chapter list – http://zerodha.com/varsity/module/technical-analysis/
is this technique is reliable in both high volume stocks like Vedanta , suzlon and low volume stocks like kwality, manappuram
Yes, in fact TA works best in scrips that have high liquidity.
Is it necessary to understand candlestick pattern? I find it difficult, instead I find line chart very easy
Line charts are great to get an overview of whats happening in the market. But if you want to identify specific trading opportunities then you got to use Candlesticks or bar charts. I’d suggest candlesticks.
hi kartik.kindly update the correct spelling of marubozu.i find different spelling in heading and different in other places.kindly verify the same and update.cheers
Sure, will do.
Its MARUBUZO or MARUBOZU as both the spellings are used enormous times. I am confused.
Guess its a proper noun, so both should be alright 🙂
thanks karthik for prompt response. you are an asset to zerodha and to beginers like us.
Thanks for the kind words 🙂
Hi
This is terrific session and awesome for the beginner. I have a query in this When a Bearish Murabozu is form then its confirmed at 3:20 PM the shorting option can be initiated , I believe this is not valid for the intraday trading. Whats your take on this /
True, at 3:20 PM there is no point initiating an intraday trade as the markets is open for another 10 mins only.
what basis should a target be set?
Support and Resistance can help you set both targets and stop losses.
Hai KARTHIK Ji,
I am a intraday trader using 5minits chart. If opening candle is Mouribouzu in 5Minits how to read that pattern
TA works across all time frames, so you analyse the 5 min candle the same way as you would analyse a EOD candle.
Hai KARTHIK RANGAPPA,
Thank u
Welcome!
Hello, do we have any calculation to check if a candle is small or long. i.e how its plotted in candle stick graph
Nope, you just have to take the range of the day to get an estimate.
Thanks for the response karthik. Sorry if i posted the question at wrong place. My question is not in terms of Marubozu. In general what range constitutes a small candle stick and a large one. Is there any pre defined way to arrive at the same.
Well, a price movement of less than 0.5% constitutes a small candles, anything higher that 0.5% contributes to a large candle.
Thanks Karthik
Welcome!
I did write some programs to evaluate the same, Ex: for 1000 rupee stock, if open-close variation of 2 second chart is 5 rupee. Range comes as 5%. But for 500 Rupee stock it comes as 1%. So the candle looks different for 2 charts. I think for every price band of a stock, different metrics is used to calculate Short and Long Canlde.
Yes, in fact thinking about it in terms of % will bring in a great deal of uniformity.
Please consider my suggestion :
In Kite and also in PI, one option can be given for the sizeof the candle ( Body of the candle ), Now 2 types ( color ) of candles is displaying, you can ask technical team to provide 3 types of candle ( color ) first one for bullish candle, second one for bearish candle and third one for the candle whose body size is less than 50% size can be dynamic ( color can be Red, Green and blue i.e. RGB color ). It may help to decide different TA concepts.
Thanks for the feedback, will pass this to the team.
Hai Karthik Ji,
wand to learn /develop opening brake out strategy. Let us give Good idea .
Check out the chapters on Dow theory.
Is there any easy which scan through all scrips at endd of the day to identify if there is any scrip which satisfies this condition ?
You ca use the sanner and expert advisor feature in Pi, check this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqKtFl46P2Y
I have started reading the TA thoroughly and find it very informative. Indeed I checked this on ICICIBANK for the last two months. I think 4th july and 12th july qualified as bullish candles. If that is correct, please let me know three answers:
1) Would there be a loss on 8th july if i took position on 4th (risk taker profile)? Or I could have come out on 5th July with a small profit?
2) 13th July is bearish candle but still it has not hit the SL. So if I took position on 12th July, when should I have exited because the price is more than the entry price till 29th July.
3) If the candle is bullish but the intraday trend is bearish through out, will there be a change in the rule? If the Opening price is 100 rupees and it reaches 110 in the next fifteen minutes and consistently falls and closes at 103 or 104 rupees, then the intraday trend is clearly bearish. Can we still take position?
Hope I am not asking questions which are answered in the subsequent chapters that I have not read.
4th July may not qualify but 5th and 12 does. Considering you took the trade on 5th July, you would have stopped out of 6th itself. 12th July could have been a profitable trade had you booked profits at the higher levels. Of course this would also depend on your target levels.
No change in the rule….you just need to keep track on the SL and target levels. As long as the levels are not breached, you are still in the trade.
Thankyou for teaching beginners like me, amazing lessons. however i have few questions and before asking any questions sorry for silly questions like
If it is Bearish Marubuzo then this means the stock is going down which means that if a stock is trading at 350 then it will come down and the value will reduce then if you trade in this then how can it be profitable to anyone, if you own it at 350 and if the value is reducing and if you are selling it at a lesser price how one will be in profit.
and my 2nd question in bearish marubuzo stoploss is always high why? because as the term says and as far as i have understood stop loss means that if the stock is 350 and you put a stoploss say at 320 then this means that if it comes down to 320 then you will sell it, because you cannot bear further loss. and in bearish marubuzo the stoploss is always high like if it is 350 stoploss is at 375, but if the price rises to 375 it is good for anyone because before the price was 350 now it is 375 then why?
Hey John, all questions are welcome – this forum is meant to exchange question and answers!
You will profit from the down move by shorting the stock, if you are not familiar with shorting, I’d suggest you read these 2 chapter – http://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/commonly-used-jargons/ and http://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/shorting/ in the same order.
You will gain clarity on your 2nd question only after you are clear about what sorting is. So I’d suggest you read that first.
Hi Karthik, it is being absolutely enjoyable & interesting learning about trading on Varsity!
I have a doubt regarding Bearish Marubuzo. In case of a risk averse investor, who waits till the market closes to verify if indeed it was a Marubuzo- why should he wait till the end of the next day for the short trade. Why not take the short position, the very next morning?
What do we mean by- The short trade will only go through by 3:20 pm the next day after ensuring that the day is a red candle day.
Please guide. Thanks!
Thanks Neeti 🙂
The day bearish marubuzo occurs a short signal is generated…but you will act upon it only the next day after…provided the next day happens to be a red candle. Remember the 3 rules we set out initially? We short only on days which show weakness…(manifested by a red candle).
Hello Karthik, I have a question in section 5.3 – Bullish Marubuzo .
As I understand, the risk averse trader will buy the stock on end of the second day, of bullish marubuzo.
We have a statement in section 5.3 as “As per the ACC’s chart above, both the risk taker and the risk averse would have been profitable in their trades.”
From the graph of ACC, I could see that on the third day after bullish marubuzo formed, it is a red candle. If risk averse trader buys the stock on end of second day of bullish marubuzo, I think he would make a loss if he expects the stock to be bullish on the third day too (as the third day is a red candle.) Given this, how are we saying the risk averse trader would have been profitable? Please clarify. Thanks!
In both the cases, the SL has not been breached…so there is no question of loss. Remember you hold the until one of the events occur – SL breaches, or tgt is achieved.
Can I do intraday on the basis of single candle only????
Yes you can, but why do you want restrict it to just single candles ?
So tell me other studies which I can add to go to intraday
I’d suggest you begin with these simple studies – MACD, RSI, MAs, Supertrend etc.
Hi Sir, on the topic of “Be flexible, Quantify and Verify”. should we always compare the Shadow length against the high value? or should we compare the shadow length with the length of the candle (High-low)? Please clarify. Thank you. also can we say anything below 0.25 is acceptable.
Compare it with the total range i.e High-Low. Yes, 0.25 is acceptable.
sir in which site i can see daily candle stick chart……… wich site is best to know about stocks
Kite has beautiful charts, I’d suggest you check the user manual to know how to use the charts on Kite – https://kite.trade/docs/kite/#charting39
Hi Karthik,
Do we need to consider volume in this marubuzo candle formation ?
Yup, you need to.
Hi,
Less volume traded but Long Bearish Marubuzo possible?
Meaning?
Hi Karthik,
Amazing stuff, love reading your tutorial. I am a bit old trader but would like to jump in to this exciting game of trading.
I did see that there are trend reversal after a bullish Marubuzo and vice versa, what causes the same. At times the pattern reverses though it confirms a Bullish or Bearish trend. What is the reason for the same, do we need to use other technical analysis techniques along with marubuzo to take a call on buy/sell.
Thanks
Happy to know you liked the content here 🙂
Marubuzo pattern is a manifestation of a powerful price action that tends to cause a trend reversal. So in a sense you can take the liberty to say – the trend has reversed because of a marubuzo. To further confirm this and feel more confident to put in a trade you may want to check things like volume, S&R, indicators , Risk reward etc.
Hi Karthik,
Thank you for the notes…
1. If I want to go ahead with intraday- The charts I have to look for is 15 minute candle stick, MACD- Will these 2 be enough or ….?
2. If the day end with bullish signal- The next day the market starts at 9.15 AM, by what time should I enter and what other analysis I should
look at.
Yes, that should be good. You can wait for the market to open, and take a call based on the movement. No hurry as such 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Thank you very much for your wonderful lesions. There are very clear and simple to understand to beginners like me.
yesterday I observed bullish Marubozu for “Bhageria Indu ” with O-615.15, L-613.45, H-645.9,C-644.55 and upper shadow-.20%, lower shadow-.27%. when I observed today it is opened with 676.75 with 5% increase and only buyers are there and no sellers. Could you please explain me what it indicates. Is it indicates very bullish where no one is interested to buy? or any other technical reasons are there?
Thank you again for your lesions.
Hemanth
It just means that the traders are very bullish and are willing to buy the stock at any given price, hence the upper circuit.
sorry.. typo error.. is it indicates very bullish where no one interested to sell?
Yes, thats exactly what it means.
how many types of candle sticks patterns in the world of technical analysis?
should i know all patterns?
No. I think its more than enough to know the patterns discussed here.
Dear Karthik and Zerodha team, Excellent work with these educational material. I have long stayed away from the markets for lack of such knowledge, but this gives me confidence to take the plunge.. 🙂 Thanks.
One small correction in this Chapter: Marubuzo –> Marubozu in most places?
Glad to hear that Anand! Happy to know you liked the content here 🙂
Will make the corrections!
Please tell me whether the following fall into marubuzo category?
O= 623
H= 623
L= 621.6
C= 622.05
And
O= 625.55
H= 625.8
L= 624
C= 624.15
Here, both of these candles doesnt look like marubuzo much visually but on calculating their upper and lower shadows they are within 0.2%-0.3% range(actually even lower than 0.1). So, will they be counted as marubuzo?
Both are intraday 15 min candles of sun pharma.
Actually most of the candles that I was looking in sun pharma as 15 min intraday are falling into marubuzo suggested ranges of shadow. Are all MARUBUZOO? Please elaborate.(20/12 or 21/12 to b precise)
Yes, this, certainly is a bearish marubuzo.
But how can all the candelsticks of 15min fall into marubuzo category? Please be detailed as I didn’t get the answer. My question was related to something else.
This can occur when liquidity is low. Also, if your query is something else, please ask the same clearly.
So, is sun pharma a low liquidity stock ? And all appearing candles to be marubuzo sticks occurs only when the liquidity is low or it depends on something else as well ?
Sun Pharma is not really a low liquidity stock. But maybe the futures on that particular day may not have been very liquid. Yes, usually low liquidity translates to Marubuzo.
I checked a few more days 15 minute candles in sun pharma and still when I’m calculating its HLOP most of them are coming out to be under marubuzo range of .2-.3. What am I doing wrong ?
Nothing. Its the nature of that stock. Try doing this on Nifty futures to see how it can vary.
These shouldn’t even be considered Marubozu because they are smaller than 1% range.
O=623, C=622.05
(O-C)/C = (623-622.05)/622.05 = 0.15% <1%
Yup, that too short wrt to the range. Can be ignored.
Based on the logic that there was intense buying or selling activity when there is a Marubuzo signalling upmove or downmove. Isn’t it is the same case when there is a candle similar to bullish Marubuzo but with a tail or a candle similar to bearish Marubuzo but with a wick? We can argue that bears and bulls respectively initially had upper hand but were later taken out completely.
Let me provide examples to be clear
Candle similar to bullish Marubuzo with a tail O:100 H:105 L:98 C:105
Candle similar to bearishMarubuzo with a wick O:100 H:102 L:95 C:95
Yes, small upper and lower shadows is perfectly fine.
No small shadow part is clear to me. What I am interested in knowing is what if the shadows are slightly long but in favour of the move(see my examples carefully the shadows are not 0.2% of the length)?
I understand, it works as long as you have the conviction.
please explain what is cover order and bracket order and how come it is use for fno trading (specially option).
Check this – http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/zerodha-trader-software-version/bracket-orders-trailing-stoploss-sl
and here is a video tutorial – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TrYyOHA7P4
Hi,
You told the person who takes risk averse method should be buying on the next day and should buy near the end of the day.
If he buys on the next day at the end what profit does he make finally. I don’t think he makes any profit.
Please explain this line in the risk averse “This means the risk averse buyer can buy the stock only around the close of the day. “
A risk averse guy takes calculated risk, after ensuring the trade qualifies in every aspect including the reward to risk assessment. If it does not quality, then there is no point initiating the trade.
Karthick,
In bullish: Stoploss is the price at which we should stop BUYING.
In bearish: Stoploss is the price at which we should stop SELLNG.
Please correct me if am wrong 🙂
Bullish SL – or a place at which you should exit your long position. Likewise bearish SL – a place where you should exit short positions.
got it..thank you
Cheers.
Is it good to consider candlestick pattern formed on EOD charts for intraday trading? OR should i stick to candlestick forming on intraday charts? bcz finding pattern on EOD charts is quiet easy as compared to intraday charts?
SECONDLY, how should i select scrips for intradat trading?
Stick to Nifty 50 stocks, they offer the best liquidity for intraday trading.
I personally prefer looking at EOD charts to develop a plan for intraday. I’ve had reasonable success with it. But having said that, I do know many many traders who use intraday carts to base their trades. So, I’m afraid I cannot give you a straightforward answer, it really depends upon your trading temperament 🙂
Hi Karthik,
suppose you have selected a stock by doing EOD analysis, now for tomorrow you want to do an intraday trade with that stock.
My question is how will you plan this intraday trade?
your entry time, entry price, your intraday target, your intraday SL, chart time frame for this intraday trade, your risk reward ratio.
please guide.
Regards,
Swapnil.
EOD analysis includes all the parameters such as entry time, target, SL, etc. So upon open, I’d watch for my entry price and execute the trade accordingly. If I don’t get an entry during the day, I’d let go of the trade.
Hi Karthik,
How you are doing this analysis for intraday?
The same way as it would work for on EOD basis.
Hi,
Thank you for the detailed explanation & it’s easy to understand for the beginners like me. I have a question regarding Marubuzo. After reading the article i went to Money Control(Currently Zerodha a/c opening is in process) and opened a Candle Stick chart and my understanding is in a day it will form only one Candle Stick (Either Bullish or Bearish). Is it correct?
Please clarify.
Regards,
Hima Pallela.
The number of candles formed depends on the timeframe you are looking at. Check 3.5 – http://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/chart-types/
I would like to know what should be the % difference between open and close price for meruboza ? I mean to ask how much range of candle stick body to be considered ?
Anything above 1% is desirable.
Thanks for detailed explanation with real examples. What will be the average time period to long or short position with this approach?
I think you misspelled Marubozu term as Marubuzo.
Again, the duration of the trade should evolve by itself and should be a natural fit to the trade.
Hi Karthik,
Thank you for excellent lesson.
Is it possible to place bracket orders programmatically if there is Bullish Marubuzo or Bearish Marubuzo with respective stoploss and trigger using KITE CONNECT? There should be one bracket order at a time, once already placed BO completes program should look for another Bullish Marubuzo or Bearish Marubuzo.
Regards,
Yadhukar
Yes, please do check the documentation here – https://kite.trade/docs/connect/v1/
Instead of saying “In the chart above” or “Here is another chart”, can we number the charts? Let’s say “In the chart 5.3.1” or “Here is another chart 5.3.2”. This way the reader can be sure of which chart you are referring to.
Its pretty confusing while reading on to which chart to refer.
Thanks. I’ll try and fix this sometime soon 🙂
Excellent article on how to interpret the candles. I would like to add a few points to the discussion hoping someone would benefit if it makes sense else I would learn something if somebody corrects me. Each day is a learning opportunity. While anticipating trades on a bearish marubuzo the ideal case would be to short on the closing price expecting the trend to continue and the price to go down. An important point to consider is that if you dont have a stop loss then your risk is unlimited. Price of the stock can go to any number overnight and you might end up in a very bad position . Risk taking definitely pays off but you should definitely have a plan and have a stop loss. While on a Bullish Marubuzo the worst situation you can be is when the stock value reaches 0. It’s OK to make a loss but the best trader knows to minimize his loss.
Absolutely. Knowing the risk side of the trade is way too important.
Does the colour of candle only varies in blue and red?
Its customisable, you can choose pink and green if it appeals you 🙂
Which is the best place to look up for stocks and other data’s other than Zerodha Kite
Zeordha Pi.
Hi Karhitk,
Thank you for such a wonderful lesson… Can you elaborate a bit more on BUY Strength Sell weakness. with an example.
Buy strength means you buy on a day when the stock has gone up (green candle) and sell strength means you sell a stock when the stock has gone down (red candle day).
Hello Karthik,
Excellent job with regards to varsity and the simplicity of modules. I have to appreciate your patience for clarifying so many queries. I have come across many brokers who take advantage in making money for just to make us understand the basics of trading. You guys rock. I would say this is one of the best social responsibility taken from Zerodha towards young and unemployed for sustainability. Appreciated. Now I have couple of questions to be clarified.
1. If I am a risk trader and there is bullish or bearish Morubozu and I execute my trade before market closes with stop-loss. Say next trading day there is huge gap up or gap down what happens to my stop loss. Will it get triggered or will I to take huge loss.
2. I hope the derivatives are extract of equity. Which means the changes that happens in equity will reflect in future and options. So to trade in future or options, I have consider TA from equity charts. If I find a bearish Morubozu in equity chart (let’s say ICICI Bank) can I short in futures.
Please clarify. Thank you in advance.
Thanks for all the good words, Ananth.
1) Gap openings can be notorious dangerous for SL orders as it tends widen the P&L. Under such circumstances, you need to ensure the orders are executed.
2) Futures yes, but not necessarily in options. Yes, you can trade in ICIC Fut based on TA derived from ICICI Eq spot.
Like always thank you for the reply. Now based on the reply No. 1 “you need to ensure the orders are executed”, is that the stop loss that we are talking about or close the order at the opening of gap up or gap down. Because I am sure when market opens gap up or gap down the stop loss will not get executed as the price wouldn’t have touched the stop loss. Please correct me if I am wrong. I would appreciate if you would give me a link where I can have complete tutorial on Zerodha.com PI.
Yes, its the SL we are talking about and gaps are not good for SL orders. However, you need to note that orders placed today (which includes SL orders) cannot be carried forwarded for the next day. So you are required to place them fresh next day. We conduct daily demo of our daily trading platform. Check this – https://zerodha.com/educate/
During bearish trade pattern, we generally sell the shares that we bought so Why there is a need of Stoploss in case of Bearish candlestick patterns
What if the stock goes higher after you short? You will lose money right? Thats why you need a SL.
Suppose the stock goes high and reached the stoploss point in bearish marubuzo then what would happen.? will the stock be sold at stop loss point if we have kept the stop loss at high of the marubuzo?
Yes, it would. However, you need to double check and ensure the SL has been triggered. Its always a good thing to do.
What moving average should be used for intraday swing and positional trade on volume chart for analysing .. like 10 day or 20 day or 50 day moving average like that
Try the 9 x 21, used to work well for me.
You are talking about Closing price or volume?
We use 9×21 EMA on closing price and not volume for intraday trading, right?
Thats right. We use a simple average on volumes.
sir,
i want to ask that suppose i have shorten nifty at 9340 with a stoploss of 9360 and waited to decline. But on the other day, a gap up opening occured on 9400, does my stoploss triggered, if not, then i have to squareoff my position in a huge loss, or the stoploss i mentioned would automatically squaredoff in this situation?
please clear my concept sir.
No, in case of gaps, the price directly moves to a certain level and the SLs can remain pending. In such a situation, its best if you can cancel the SL and exit the trade.
Sir a share O-960,H-986,L-959.5,C-985.5 how to calculate the body length of candle in %.
You mean the range? It does not make sense to calculate it in terms of %.
The body range is 2.7℅,(H-L)/Close[986-959.5]/985.5..but this not a marubuzo pattern becoz it hv both side shadow…is it correct or not???
Yup.
I will say it is a Marubozu pattern. The difference between High & Close and between Low & Open is very small.
Please make the website mobile friendly.
This is responsive site – adapts to mobile.
What is a long candle? How to measure that 10% you have mentioned?
Take the range for the day (high – low) in case of bullish candles, and (low – high) in case of red candles and cross reference it with the avg range for previous few days…maybe last 10 day.
how many number of tickets are there in a single Marubozu? How can I assure that the pattern is not going to change at the last minute as the market trend can vary every minute.
No assurance in market, Pallavi 🙂
Not sure what you mean by number of tickets.
Hi Kartick,
Regarding Buy strength and Sell weakness
I understood the concept of Shorting, u sell when stock when price is high and buy back when price is low,
Buying when strength makes sense since stock will appreciate further
But selling at weakness wouldn’t it result in loss, r u talking about selling the stock to reduce further losses.
Can you Please explain selling weakness part.
Yes, sell the stock at weakness so that it drifts down and buy it back later….this is essentially basic guidelines to shorting.
Hi sir,
I have lot of confusion after this chapter. Iam a beginner so can’t able to understand this easy…Assumption 1: buy strength and sell weak….here in bullish marubozu if O=L=100,C=H=110, as per assumption we will buy at the closing price…why can’t you sell at this price so that per share we will get Rs 10 profit (if we bought for Rs 100)..and likewise for bearish market O=H=100, C=L=90 as per assumption need to sell at closing point which means loss of Rs 10 (if we bought for Rs100 per share), why can’t they sell before reaching Rs90?….how we will get profit if we are moving as per assumption…can you please explain this to me?…Thanks
Arun, most of these queries have been answered in the comments section. Can you please read through them? Thanks.
It is very useful to me thanks Zerodha team…and also for the replies,,, while reading the comments gives a vast knowledge about the topic….
Good luck, and happy learning!
In section 5.6 (Trade trap) , it is mentioned that trading should be avoided during extremely short (below 1% of range) or long candle (above 10% of range). Can you please elaborate how to quantify this range?
These candles (short or long) indicates extreme sentiment or the lack of it (for small candles), hence the essence of price action wont be reflected in the price. So better to ignore these candles on a standalone basis.
Is there any technical parameter to calculate the range % ?
Usually, the difference between open and close or high and low gives you a send of the range.
Hi Karthik,
You have helped me a lot to learn about what is the stock market with the Varsity. I wanted to ask, according to Candlesticks, if it is Red then that means it is too much selling? And also means one can buy at such less price and can sell when the Candlestick turns blue for better price?
If you are going by the rule book, then you should buy on blue candle, which signifies strength.
even in day trading , minimum 1% size required?
Yup, makes a difference.
Dear karthik Ji. Today I completed this part 1 of Chapter 5. Really I was a great learning to me and you deserve many many thanks for that. God bless!!
Thank you so much, Sunil. Good luck and happy learning.
dear karthick,
i have a question pertaining to the price action analysis with candle stivk patterns. on which segment can it be applied. since there are both buying and selling oppurtunities its difficult to apply in cash market because you cant short in cash market unless its intraday as far as i know. THEN COMING TO FUTURES IT HAS AN EXPIRY AND HENCE CANT BE TRATED WITH CANDLE STICKS OR MVS BECAUSE THEY WORK ONLY ON AN HIGH TIME FRAME.SO WHICH SEGMENT CAN THESE BE APPLIED
1) All segments/All assets/all time frames
2) If you are looking at shorting, then maybe its best done on futures as you can carry forward the positions
as you said stick to the plan, so if I were to initiate a trade in bearish marubuzo and next day it becomes bullish and continues like this for next 3-4 sessions then I must hold till i reach a stop loss
thanks ! i was studying the charts of Friday in my kite account and i sorted on 15 min and observed that on majority there was a reversal happening ie a bearish followed by bullish and vice versa. I am an equity trader and realised that this may not be an effective way for intraday trade on equities. Would you agree or it is just an aberration
Well, if there is a consistent reversal, then maybe you should set up trades based on these patters 🙂
Remember, you need to be quick to cease the opportunity while trading intraday!
I have been reading daily charts of multiple stocks to spot a marubuzo but could not spot it, you being far more experienced in spotting, can you safely say that the pattern is not a regular ocurrence but if it ocurres the way you defined. I am asking this question just for you to share the experience
These patterns do occur regularly, but its kind of hard to put a number against the frequency of occurrence. However, I can tell you that they are more likely to occur on stock charts as opposed to index charts.
Absolutely. You hold till SL is breached or target is achieved.
Hello Karthik
I’m very new to all this and right now I’m not actually trading anywhere. I’m doing the modules to gain knowledge and somehow i just cannot wrap my head around the whole concept of Stoploss. Can you please explain it again with an example.
Thank You
Ok, assume you bought a stock at 100 with an expectation that it will go to 105 and you hope to make a profit of 5. As you understand, there is also a risk involved here. Instead of going to 100, it can drop to 95 or 90 or any other price point. So you dont want to live with this uncertainty and want to ensure that below a certain point of loss you dont want to hang on to the loss making stock. This point is called the stoploss point, which literally means you are stopping yourself from making further loss. So you can probably keep 95 as a stoploss for this trade.
Hi All,
I have recently opened an account with zerodha. I’m super newbie to stocks and trading. The selection of articles here is really useful. After reading about the marubozu pattern I have a of questions regarding “shorting”
1. Day 1 is Bearish Marubozu, Can I do a pre-market short trade for the next day? (Short Delivery)
Yes, you can. Check this – https://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/pre-marketpost-marketafter-market-orders
Dear sir,
I have a doubt “Can I do intraday trading tomorrow, based on the pattern formed today”
e.g. toaday is bullish marubozu formation, so expecting that it will so bullish sentiment for next few session I go long on in morning and then sqare off by evening or whenever I make a significant profit”
Regards
Yes, you certainly can.
Thanks for Varsity contents. I am just starting on studying this resource on TA.
Seeking a clarification on this post on Maribozu candlestick pattern.
The chart example you have given is for the End-of-day trading chart, am I correct?
The Bullish and Bearish Maribozu you have explained based on OHLC for each trading day. So, this applies for positional/swing trading where one takes delivery of stocks, am I right? Because making a buy of stocks at 3:20 pm does not really allow one for intraday trade, isn’t it?
If we have to apply Maribozu candlestick pattern for intraday trading, we should be looking for maribozu on 15-minutes, hourly charts, isn’t it?
Please let me know if I have inferred this correctly.
Yes, you can apply this for carry forward trades as well 🙂
As I’ve mentioned earlier in this module, TA is applicable across all time frames.
Thanks for reply Karthik. I understand now.
Good luck, Nishant 🙂
Hello,
i had zero knowledge about market, “introduction” helped me a lot..
but brother i don’t understand, as i read earlier, if there is a buyer there needs to be a seller. My question is..
1. how it happens, when the market opens, the first share bought, where is it bought from ? ans as you said, in marubozu bulish market, if i buy around 3:20 p.m. and if i don’t sell it, will it be automatically sold at the end of the market ? who is going to buy ?
2. i don’t understand the rule number 1. buy in the bulish market and sell in the bearish market ? isn’t i am going to make a loss ?
1) For every buy there is a seller. You can always, buy/sell in futures and position will be carried forward overnight.
2) The idea is to stick to the trend, hence the rule.
Brother, buy in bullish market and sell in bearish market, it’s not how you are understanding.
It means buy first and sell later (long position) when it’s bullish trend & sell first and buy later (short posiotion) when it’s bearish trend.
karthik sir how to approach support/resistance shokker canndles
The same way as you’d approach the non shokker candles.
Sir, i want to ask that entry to stop loss is made everyday or once made it continues to be unless we cancel the stoploss??Secondly ,in bullish marubozu why stoploss is said to take same for both risk averse and risk taking person,for risk averse stop loss will be relatively much deeper therefore he must make stoploss at higher price , isn’t it??
You will have to place the SL order every day as unfortunately, you cannot carry forward your SL orders overnight. Every CS pattern comes with a preset SL level…this is the same for both risk averse and risk taker.
What moving average should be used for intraday ? and time frame ( 5 minute candle or 15 minute candle ?
Try the 9 x 21 minute MA.
In the case of a bearish Marubozu, we should short the stock. But if the price of the stock goes up, then we will lose money, even with a stoploss equal to the high price of the day. And in case the price goes on falling, when do we sell the stock?
Yes, if the SL hits then you need to take a loss and exit the position. As far as profit booking in concerned, you need to have a target price in mind. The chapter on support and resistance throws some insights into this.
As per the bullish Marubuzo the next trading session is expected to be optimistic i.e. the candle will be blue. But in one of the examples, you showed that the risk averse would have gained (example of ACC) as the next session was red and he wouldn’t have initiated the trade. So my question is: if the marubuzo is bullish and expectation for the next session is also blue, how come it became red and what do we do is such cases. as, our prediction goes wrong here
He dint initiate the trade, so the SL was not triggered. Hence money saved is money gained 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Is coding possible for Marbozu in PI
Check this – https://zerodha.com/expert-advisors/
Hi Team,
Do we have any PDF download of the Module as we had it previously.
Regards,
Nikhilesh
Yup, we will put this up soon.
Karthik,
I am getting stuck in one place ,whether to classify a candle as marubuzo or not.
1.Should we approach the visual method or calculate with OHLC.
2. Also if O=1376, L=1376, C==1441, H=1450. is it a bullish marubuzo???
3. If yes how u calculated upper shadow & real body percentage???
The difference between high and close is 9, or
9/1441 = 0.6%…which may not be Marubuzo.
Thanks karthik…
sir,
thank you for this awesome article I have a doubt.
I understand the bullish market to make a profit Buy price= close and sl= low so next day it may be profitable.
but in the Bearish market how can some one make a profit because next day price will go down (history tends to repeat it self).
didn’t get it.
SL is higher than buying price. how?
For this, you need to short the stock/index. Check this chapter on shorting – https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/shorting/
Thank you sir
Earlier in this chapter we did discuss about the length of the candle. One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
1% range or 10% range ka pata kaise chalega…?
You can calculate the range by dividing the difference between open and low and dividing that over open price.
Hi Kartika,
Has ICICI bank formed MARUBOZU on 14th August?
Not too convincing I guess.
I do not quite understand this part of the chatper.
“Please notice, as per the text book definition of a marubozu Open = Low, and High = Close. However in reality there is a minor variation to this definition. The variation in price is not much when measured in percentage terms, for example the variation between high and close is 1.8 which as a percentage of high is just 0.17%. “
This means that the Marubuzo formed, can have a slight upper and lower shadow. This should be ok as long the shadows are small.
1.The charts used as examples are daily charts? and this indicator has been working well what timeline chart ?
2. When you say we should overlook very small candles and very large candles for this pattern could you tell us what is very large and small in terms of percentage between open and close.
1) Yes, most of the charts are EOD
2) Something like less than 0.5% and more than 10%. Give this a try, if this does not suit your temperament, feel free to tweak this.
If we are holding a stock, then we should sell whenever recognizable pattern of ‘bearish’ is observed. I hope it is not just for ‘short’ trade.
It could be for a short trade, or if you have a long position, you could take cues and square it off.
Hi Karthik –
You mentioned “The variation in price is not much when measured in percentage terms, for example the variation between high and close is 1.8 which as a percentage of high is just 0.17%. ” . So is this % should be between 0.2-0.3% as mentioned earlier in the Q&A by you?
Thanks,
Ash
Yes, it’s desirable if it’s within 0.3% range.
Is it Marubuzo or Marbozu?
Give it the benefit of a proper noun 🙂
The trade on the bearish marubuzo would be to short BPCL approximately at 341.7 with a stoploss at the high point of the candle. In this case the stoploss price is 356.0. Of course at this stage we still haven’t dealt with setting targets, and we will figure that out much later in this module.
can you please explain the concept of shorting in stock market and also in context with bpcl.
Shorting simply requires you to sell first and buy back at a later point. Think of it as a regular trader where you buy and sell … but when you short, you do it the reverse way. I’d suggest you read this – https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/the-stock-markets/
When there is a bearish marubozu, if the stoploss is at the high point(opening price), and we sell the stock if the price goes above the stoploss, then won’t we be selling stock whose prices are increasing?
Yes, hence you need to evaluate the risk reward ratio every time you find an opportunity to trade.
Dear kartik sir. Can you tell suppose i have opened the site of nse india during market hours. And suppose a stock is too bearish or bullish how will i get to know upper circit has come. If upper circuit has come it means all buyers no sellers so than only bid price will be shown and no ask price. I know in equity cash trading will be stopped after circuit but how will i know that now only buyers are there and no sellers same for when there are only sellers and no buyers .And thanks in advance please clear my doubt.
Stocks in F&O has no circuits. Its hard to predict when the stock will hit the circuit.
Hi karthik sir…………….thanks for the excellent work………i am trying to practice this lesson….yesterday(6/9/17) sunpharma formed bearish Marubuzo., am i right?…….but today it is not acting like bearish continuation….so it is false indication……..will it happens sometimes?…or i am predictiong anything wrong?..pls clarify
Yes, it sort of did (except for the small lower shadow). If you are a risk averse trader, you will have to watch the close and initiate a short position, provided it forms a red candle.
Thanks for the reply sir……..i am an risk averse so i am in wait and watch mode…..
Great! Good look, Jagan.
Thanks sir…..what is meaning of consecutive Marubuzo…yesterday BPCL formed bearish Marubuzo…as an risk averse i decided to see today…but today price are fallen heavily…..as per the rule i should sell today..but will it fall further…or monday will be a gap up…how to decide?
You should have initiated a short y’day. If not for anything, watch how the trade pans out over the next few days.
Which segment Jagan is talking about ? Futures ??
Yup.
Sec 5.3. Buy price 1028.4 and stoploss 970.
Question is,”Why I would keep stoploss at such low value of 970 and not around and <1028.4, i.e. the buy price? Wouldn't that minimize the loss?
The best part about candlestick pattern is that it also suggests the SL price point, in fact, this is an integral part of CS.
Thanks.
Last line of ACC chart (Sec 5.3) says, “both risk takers and risk averse would have been profitable in their trades.” How ? I couldn’t figure out.
Risk Taker will buy at 1028. Ok he can sell next day and book profit.
Risk averse will buy at the end of the next day of Marubujo. And when he try to sell the next day, i.e. second day to Marubujo, the candle stick is all red.
Kindly explain.
Thats because the trade has worked for both of them, Naveen.
naveen – you are just looking at one or two candle sticks after the pattern is formed, whereas karthik is discussing about the longer trend, if you look at the 6-7 candle stick from when the pattern is formed, it is trading higher, hence both the parties would have made money.
Thanks buddy.
Which charting tool is used in the screenshot coz I don’t see this in Kite?
All of them were from Pi as Kite was not developed then.
Marubuzo bearish or bullish is applied for 1 min chart , or 30 mins or 1 days
Preferably day chart.
Hi karthik,
By % range for marubuzo u mean only High-Low.
Suppose High =100 & low=90, then % range=10
Am i right??
oh sorry i think range% =[(HIGH-LOW)/LOW] * 100 %
IS dis ok karthik?
Yes.
You said
“However the risk averse would have avoided buying the stock entirely because the next day happened to be a red candle day.”
But question is being risk averse trader , why i should wait for the whole day before placinh order? My understanding is if yesterday it was bullish marubuzo , i will buy that stock in the morning session very next day. please explain if i am wrong.
Remember the first rule of CS? Buy strength and sell weakness? So to ensure you comply with this rule, you will have to make sure you are buying on a blue candle day, which you can figure out by EOD.
Hello sir,
I was going through last 3 years chart of ACC and i was looking for marubuzo pattern. now my qn is if i consider shadow relaxation upto 0.6% there are hundreds of marubuzo formed. U have said in the chapter that upto 0.2-0.3% should be considered. But in the above comments u have said to someone that upto 0.6% is good…I am really confused what to consider and what not?
Arun, 0.6% could be a mistake. Its best to stick to 0.2-0.3%.
we should buy only on a blue candle day and sell on a red candle day
what does it mean will u plz explain
This is related to the ‘Buy strength and sell weakness’ rule. Suggest you take a look at that, thanks.
Dear team Zerodha,
I am learning through varsity since 1 month and want to be successful in the market. What I feel is that one cannot learn only from theory and needs a real time trading platform to learn, examine and experiment all the charts and indicators. Am I right ? I request answers for the following:-
1. Can I study all the charts and also draw different indicators by opening account with a broker like zerodha without putting money in trading account till the time i feel confident ?
2. I am a salaried person. I think the best bet for me is to trade in F&O and to become a swinger or positional. This thinking is due to time constraints during day time. Am I right ?
1) Yes, you can. When you open an account you will get access to our trading platform which also has a charting engine
2) Positional trades.
Hi Karthik,
Your tutorials are the best for beginners like me.Thanks a ton!
Please help me sort this out.
I understand that we need to buy back the shares on the same day we short.We cannot carry forward to next day.In that case,
If I short at 3:20 PM on a given day, I actually have no scope of buying back as market is almost closing.So how do I go about it.
Yes, that would be very difficult. Your only option is to look at Futures.
Thanks a lot Karthik and Zerodha for this initiative in the form of Zerodhavarsity! Though I haven’t yet applied any of these methods and rules to an actual trade but reading these modules one by one is actually giving me a sense of direction which I was searching for so long in Technical Analysis.
I really hope I can actually start materialising this knowledge into successful trading.
Glad to hear that, Kanika!
Happy learning and all the very best 🙂
Thanks for versity. Is there any practical training provide for stock market from zerodha or you or anywhere? Please let me know, if yes then please email me kindly,
Everything we know is shared on Varsity and Tradingqna – https://tradingqna.com/
Thanks a lot
What is the time frame(1 mins, 5 mins, 10 mins charts e.t.c) I need to consider while looking at charts for recoganisable candle stick pattern
I’d suggest 15 mins for intraday and EOD charts for positional trades.
Very great tutorial!!! Very simple to understand for the beginners. Great work. Keep it up.
Sorry to point out this typo error: in some place the word “marubozu” is typed as “marubUZO”. Please check and correct it.
But I really appreciate your work and overall Zerodha is great.
Ah, I’m aware of the name mismatch Nalla. But I’ve taken cover under the ‘pronoun’ pretext 🙂
Happy learning!
Hi
My Zerodha Client Id is YG8404
On 28th Oct 2017 & 29th Oct 2017 candle stick chart stock of ‘IOC’ formed a clear Bearish Engulfing after an uptrend and today i.e. on 30/10/2017 ‘IOC’ formed a DOJI / Spinning Top (Not clear to me).
Can you please suggest a likely hood to take place tomorrow on 31/10/2017. i.e. IOC will go down or up or it will remain sideways ?
Also what pattern on 30/10/2017 IOC has formed a DOJI ? or a Spinning Top ?
Appreciate if you can answer quickly.
Many thanks in Advance
Pramod – please do not give out your client id in a public forum.
The uptrend before the bearish engulfing is not very convincing to me. The pattern on 30th is a spinning top.
To confirm that stock is in uptrend or downtrend what period of chart we need to analyze bearish / bullish engulfing pattern for one or two days trade.
Also should volume needs to be more than previous day volume on the day when bearish / bullish engulfing pattern is formed or only more than 10 days average volume is sufficient.
Please confirm which candle stick pattern in combination has higher probability say 70% to assume the trend.
For short term – I’d suggest you look at 15 days chart. Volumes too needs to be high, especially around the pattern formation time. No candlestick pattern or indicator works on the same 2 stocks. For example, bullish engulfing along with RSI may work on SBI but may not on HDFC. The trick is to backtest and be aware of which pattern/indicator (has a better probability) works on which stock.
Many Thanks.
I have read quite a few comments appreciating you and you can also add me as your appreciator.
The article was old but you still reply to queries and doubts of people, that is a great work.
To show interest consistently is sign of a master and you truly are a master.
Hahah…thanks for the kind words, Pramod 🙂
Happy learning.
The question is slightly off topic and I apologize for that in advance. After seeing a number of charts, one thing I noticed is that when there is a huge increase in volume, it suddenly increases/ decreases the price of the stock (especially in one minute chart). There is almost no change or very little change in price and suddenly the next minute, there is a huge upsurge in volume, as well as change in price. Sir can you please explain what exactly goes on there? Thank you.
Please don’t apologize for this 🙂
This can get a bit tricky since you are watching 1-minute chart. 1-minute charts are full of noise. I’d suggest you take a look at slightly higher time frame…at least 10-15 mins one.
Hello Karthik,
first of all, thanks a lot for all your contribution and replies against most of the naive questions.
I have been following all the previous modules/replies responsibly and must say your efforts are worth enough to call you a mastermind with outstanding intellect.
I have a number of questions, so please accept my apology for the long comment, in advance. I am sure most of them already been answered, however, I still have little confusion!
Regarding identifying Marubozu, I have sequence of questions
1. A candlestick without or within the identified range of (0.3%) shadow can occur anytime in a trading single day. if it occurs, then around closing time (i.e 3:20 pm) one needs to cross check the below-specified conditions for Bullish or Bearish Marubozu?
2. To ascertain one out of two Marubozu, the conditions to be cross-checked are:
2.1 If Open = High and Close = Low it’s Bearish Marubozu?
2.2 if Open = Low and Close = High it’s Bullish Marubozu?
3. Let’s say one of the above two conditions (from 2.1 or 2.2) has been satisfied, next step is to check the Shadow lengths. And to calculate the shadow lengths, if i just copy what Vishal Saini had said on June 5, 2016, at 8:53 am. (which you agreed as correct) and adding your example values (O=971.8, H=1030.2, L=970.1 and C=1028.4)
In Bullish Marubuzo:
i) (high-close)/close For Upper Shadow which is [(1030.2-1028.4)/1028.4] x 100 = 0.17%, which is below <0.3% Value, hence condition satisfied.
ii) (low-open)/open For Lower Shadow which is [(970.1-971.8)/971.8] x 100 = 0.17%, which is below <0.3% Value, hence condition satisfied.
as above two criterion have been satisfied, we can call it Bullish Marubuzo and take actions according to to the type of trader we are?
And similarly, if Bearish Marubuzo seems to be forming!
iii) (low-close)/close For Lower Shadow
iv) (high-open)/open For Upper shadow
i think if above conditions are satisfied one can execute the trade and set the target and stop loss, correct me if i am wrong?
i have no understanding about Futures, F&O, swing or any other term you might have used in the replies above, i am expecting to see them in next sessions!
Once again thanks in advance.
Kushal, thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I’m happy to note that you’ve liked the contend so far.
1) Yes, a marubuzo can form anytime during the day – what the point is that it should sustain through the day, until closing. Hence, you need to revalidate the patter around close
2) Yes for both
3) Yes, considering the flexibility aspect – I would go ahead and consider this a Marubuzo
3.1 and 3.2) Yes, the calculation is correct
The same logic applies for bearish Marubuzo as well. Guess, you’ve got the pattern;s identification perfectly well.
Good luck.
Thanks Karthik
Appreciate your reply??
Cheers!
Hi Karthik, You are such a help for us. Just wanted to know when you say a days candle, How can i relate it to 5 minutes chart. Does it mean last candle of the day on a 5 minute chart.
Thanks Buddy
When I say, days candle, the Open if for the start of the day, low is the lowest point of the day, high is the highest point, and close is the closing price. Now shrink that day to 5 mins (or 10, 15, or 30 mins) and you have that 5 mins candle. For example a 5 mins candle between 10:05 to 10:10 AM represents the OHLC during that 5 mins.
Thanks for prompt reply Karthik.
Could you please give me a simpler example (I know you have kept it very simple though) .
This is one point holding me back and I am going into loses.
Please help.
Can you share more insights into what is causing the confusion? Maybe I can try and address that specifically.
Hi Karthik,
Why do I see candles with lower volume bigger than candles with high volume ?
It could be a low volume day, but the range could be large.
But, I think shadows are there to denote range for a particular time frame / candle. I am still not clear from your answer sir. Kindly explain.
Lower volumes indicate lower liquidity. Lower liquidity means higher volatility. Higher volatility means larger range within which the stock trades. Larger range indicates larger candle.
YOU CAN SAY LARGE CANDLE ONLY WHEN THERE IS LARGE REAL BODY and not by large range? am i correct?
Large real body = large range.
“The disadvantage of buying the next day is that the buy price is way above the suggested buy price, and therefore the stoploss is quite deep.”
I did not understand why the stoploss would be deep? Can’t he put the stoploss at the next day’s opening price to reduce it?
Btw, thanks for the awesome series on stock markets.
It means if the suggested buy price is 50, SL is 47. But you buy at 52, the SL is still at 47. So a difference of 5 from the original SL level.
I have a doubt. According to the article i should sell my security as soon as i see a bearish marubozu that too depending on my risk appetite. But my point is even it is a bearish maribozu or any of kind bearish candle. I’m always making loss right?. Cause the price of my security has fallen. Is it possible to predict exactly when the bearish marubozu or any bearish candle will form so that i can sell it on the verge to make a maximum profit out of it?
Thank you!
No, you short with an expectation that it will go down further.
Hi Sir,
Thanks for your prompt replies.
I have doubt that after we enter a trade and if the price drops considerably without hitting stop loss (but near to stoploss) can we increase our quantity again?
You certainly can, depends on your risk-taking ability. I personally like to average on my winning trades.
Hi sir,
If we have missed to enter the trade on both P1 and P2 day with all the checklist confirming, can we go on the trade on the start of the every next day (say P3)? If so still for that day also do we need to check the rule “buy strong and sell weak”?
Yes, you certainly can after you;ve ensured that you are buying/selling on strength/weakness.
I wanted to know what is the difference between quantitative analysis and technical analysis. Are they the same?
Quantitative Analysis requires you to look at the numbers/data from a statistical (or mathematical) perspective. For example, measuring the spread in terms of standard deviations, studying the distribution of data, or looking at stationarity of the time series. However, TA requires you to look at the stock price chart to identify price patterns.
Hi Sir,
1. You have mentioned to avoid trading based on smal candes(less than 1%) ,how to calculate this?the real body length alone should be more than 1% or the length of the entire candle along with shadow?Does this applies to intraday trading also? Usually i see intraday(in 15 mins chart) candle real body to be less than 1% length only.Then in that case how to do a intraday trading?
2.If a bullish marubuzo is formed in a downtrend/bearish marubuzo in a up trend, with a low volume at support level/resistance levels respectively ,then can we enter a short trade/long trade respectivey in the same direction of the trend at that point,on confrmation of P2 beign red candle/blue candle respectively?
1) More from an EOD perspective. I measure the length of the real body excluding the shadows.
2) Yes, you can consider Marubuzo requires no prior trend.
Hi, appreciate your effort for making this modules this much simple. can you explain how we use marubuzo patterns for intraday trading, i mean how the patterns forms ?
Load the 10 or 15 min charts and look for the pattern. You trade it just like the way you’d trade EOD charts. Remember, TA pattern can be applied to all time frame.
Thank you
Cheers!
apollo tyres chart of H1 of 15/12/2017 is a perfect eg of Marubozu on up trend
Should be, I’m yet to check the chart.
Also Coal India 15/12/2017 H1 chart first candle 9.15 am
Yes, this is a bullish Marubuzo.
Hi Karthik,
I just want to thank you for the excellent articles. And for your time, effort and patience in answering all the questions. I learn from the article and then some more from the Q-A following the article. 🙂
You are amazing!!
Regards
Roshni
Thanks for the kind words, Roshni!
Happy learning 🙂
Thank you for amazing articles you have written here.
If I saw a bullish Marubuzo say for a 5 min chart (10:00 – 10:05) for a particular day on some stock, then :
1)Can a intraday buy call be taken on that stock?
2)What other indicator can I check to confirm the buy signal ?
3)Currently I use RSI and 5,10,20 EMA. Is it a good combination of indicators for intraday trading ?
1) Yes, you can set up an intrday trade
2) Volumes, Support, and Resistance
3) Yes, these are good combinations of RSI
Hi,
Can you please open 1D chart for NHPC for 21st Dec & 22 Dec 2017.
as said in this chapter that the longer the candle, the more intense is the buying or selling activity.
but if you see chart, 21st Dec candle is very long as compared to 22nd Dec, still on 21st dec there was less volume than 22nd?
how is it possible? can you please explain?
Candlesticks only enhance the probability of the event, there are no guarantees in the market.
hi,
in this chapter you said One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
can you explain how this percentage is calculated? also why should we avoid too long candles?
Long candles (say something like 6-8%) could be outside the daily volatility range. This can lure you into setting up deeper stop losses, and if the trade goes wrong, you will take a deeper hit than usual.
Can u plz tell what duration shall we keep while observing candle sticks 1 min 5 min 10 min for day trading and what other indicators shall we use to generate a buy signal
Karthik, the training modules are excellent. I feel this information to be empowering thus boosting my confidence. I have not found a more complete guide to understanding the various aspects of the stock markets and their interrelations anywhere online apart from Varsity. I have bought and sold stocks for a few years, but I realize only now that I knew nothing before!
As for the question, am I correct in assuming that the mazrubuzo candlestick is only studied for the entire days OHLC? i.e the chart has to be set in intervals of days and not any other? What if I am looking at a 15 min candlestick chart to day trade, and find a marubuzo…is it applicable?
Happy to note that you are liking the content on Varsity, Tushar!
You can set the time frame to any desired value. The candlestick patterns are still applicable. However, my personal favorite is a marubuzo formation on an EOD basis.
One more question….is it advisable to trade on long Marubuzo or better to avoid considering long candlestick? It yes can we place a stoploss halfway though the high price for a bearish Marubuzo instead of the high price and similarly for Bullish Marubuzo?
You can trade on Marubuzo, not an issue.
Hi Karthik,
This type of content helps a lot for beginners like me.
Is there any place/Website where we can look for “All the Stocks which fall under Bullish/Bearish Marubuzo” ?
Thanks
Hmm, I’m not sure Sateeh.
Sir,
If a stock made a good bullish candle on the daily candlestick charts and a Hanging Man kind of patterns on the weekly charts, what would be trade set up for that stock? Buy/Sell/Do nothing?
Many thanks
Best wishes,
Ishwari
This can be tricky and really depends on the timeframe of the trade. If it is for a day or two, pay more attention to daily patterns. If it is more than that, I;d suggest you pay attention to the weekly pattern also.
Ok, when we trade we should look for daily/weekly/monthly candle stick to better judge the direction of the script? No conflict or in line (all period candlestick pattern), the better would be success factor for that trade?
Absolutely, that is a perfect scenario.
Are only whole day marubozu are useful? or we can consider marubozu’s formed in 1hr, 4hr chart also? Are marubozu’s helful in intraday trading?
You can trade based on candlestick patterns formed based on 1,4, or 5 hours candles. However, I’m not a big fan of this. I personally prefer to look at EOD charts to build the strategies for the day.
it means u choose btst rather than intraday trades?
In some charts both blue and red marubozu’s are present, i.e multiple marubozu’s. Which should i follow if there are multiple marubozu’s?
Always look at the latest candle.
Do you mean, that the risk averse trader is conforming bearish marubozu on the next day of 3.20pm?
Yes, this is if you want to play it safe.
what will be the time difference between each candle to analyze all these parameters?
Depends on your trading style – if you are a swing trader, something like End of day charts should be good.
Hi Karthik,
I’m learning a lot from your useful website. Thank you!
Please ‘bear’ with me — I don’t understand this statement: “A bearish marubozu indicates that there is so much selling pressure in the stock that the market participants actually sold at every price point during the day…”
This statement might be taken to imply that two different times t1 and t2 between open and close necessarily satisfy p1>p2 for t1<t2. Is this the intended meaning?
I'm asking because I was under the impression that the bearish marubozu only meant that O=H and C=L with any number of excursions in price back and forth between these values between opening and closing times. And an 'up' excursion is therefore not excluded.
Thank you. -Mark
Mark, the selling pressure that I’m referring to is for intraday. So through the day, the stock got sold at every price point.
Hello Karthik
My doubt is with the concept of selling on a red candle day and buying on a blue candle day. I saw few queries about this concept in the above comments. But i’m not clarified with the answers. So let me elaborate a bit and please make me clear.
1) I must buy strength and sell weakness.
2) For eg: I’m going long today with SBIN at 308rp. Since today(19-1-18) is blue candle day. I’m buying strength.
3) Suppose 22-1-18 also seems to be blue candle day and SBIN stock is being sold at 315rp.
4) Let us consider 24-1-18 to be red candle day. And the SBIN stock is sold at 305rp.
5) Should i sell my stock on 22-1-18 for 315rp to make a profit of 7rp or sell my stock on 24-1-18 for 305rp and make a loss of 3rp as it is said that i must sell on red candle day ?
6) Shorting on red candle day would definitely make profit given if the stock prices go down on next few days. But how would selling the shares that i bought on 19-1-18 on a red candle day make profit?
Vignesh, I understand your concern. Have you ever tried trailing your SL? If no, I think its best if you trail your SL so that you can lock in profits.
How to continue stop loss trigger to next day in Kite and how to short a position.I dont find any options in Kite.
Hi Karthik,
As I have understood from the chapter and comment section:
For Marubozu the shadow size must be 0.2% to 0.3% or utmost less than 1%. For OHLC figure-162.6, 164.75,161.5,163.95 , after calculation it is found
Upper shadow=0.49% and lower shadow=0.68%. But, visually in the chart comparing to other candlesticks it is not look like a Marubozu.Pls clarify.
I’d avoid this and not really consider this as a Marubuzo.
Thanks for your reply. So, during further study shall I stick to 0.2% to 0.3% to consider marubozu?
Yes, please.
if on a particular day,stock has an open=320, low=320, Close=330 and High=332. Will it be a marubozu ?
Yes, I’d consider that as a Marubuzo.
How?
You said to stick to 0.2 to 0.3 % range , but this is around 0.6%?
In one of the above comments, a person was getting same 0.6 % and you said you might not consider it a marubozu?
0.6% is on the higher side, I would not be too comfortable.
“One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).”
Is it means:
Range percentage = (Diff of open to close) / (Diff of high to low) *100
During the formation of Marubozu we should avoid trading. We should only do after a confirmed Marubozu.
Am I right?
There are multiple ways to calculate the range, here are few techniques
Range = (High – Low)/Close or (High – Low)/Open or (High – Low)/Avg (Open, Close).
Confirm the trade if you want to be on the conservative side.
Thanks.
One more query: Open=152.22, High=152.22, Low=151.85,Close=151.85. What is the type of this candle.
The range would be too low to classify this as a Marubuzo, hence I guess this would be a spinning top.
Karthik,
Can it not be a Doji, as open and close are very close?
Yes, you can consider it as a doji.
For a spinning top it must have shadows. So, how can you guess it as a spinning top?
You can look at the high and low of the candles, with respect to the current market price, to check if there are shadows.
This is perfect answer. Thanks.
In case of Bullish, (High-Low)/Low and in case of Bearish, (Low-High)/High are better.
In other words, our laptop or mobile show % change of the day which should not be more than 10%.
Am I right ?
Yes, that is correct. Good luck!
Hi Karthik,
I have a doubt on the length of the candles.
In the trade trap, you suggested not to trade when a candle is too short (below 1% range) or too long (above 10% range)
I want to understand how do we calculate these percentages?
For example let’s consider on any particular day for a particular stock, open price was 350 and close price was 360, and for simplicity let’s us consider it was a bullish marubuzo.
So is it a long candle (Above 10%) or a short candle (Below 1%)?
Thanks in advance
If the stock has a range of say 0.15 – 0.25%, then I’d consider this as a short-range candle, hence I’d avoid trade based on these candles. Also, anything above 8% is treated likewise. No hard and fast rule here, these are numbers from my experience.
Dear Karthik, Your varsity lessons are user friendly. All these days using Pi I placed buy order and sell order manually and incurred losses. After reading your TA , of late, I started using charts and gaining. Thanks for your clarifications. I have some
doubts regarding placing stop loss. Suppose I place a buy order @17 in the chart, can I put stop loss @14 after confimation? Same for sell order
Please clarify.
I know that clicking above or below LTP, a screen appears SL-. trigger
price. Is it enough to submit there?
Yes, you can place a Stoploss by right-clicking on the chart below the LTP and place a sell order. Also, if you click above the LTP, it’ll trigger a limit sell order(Target Price)
// Strength is represented by a bullish (blue)
candle and weakness by a bearish (red) candle. Hence whenever you are buying
ensure it is a blue candle day and whenever you are selling, ensure it’s a red candle
day.//
What do you mean by Blue Candle Day & Red Candle Day? How to ensure that as we will have many Blue and Red candled in a day chart?
I’ve replied to the same question earlier, request you to read the thread.
Most of the time, when i set the stop loss, the shadow triggers it. But the price closes above the stop loss and then the price goes up.. So is it really required to close the trade as soon as the stop loss is reached or it’s better to wait for the closing price?
I understand, the only way to deal with this is –
1) Increase the look back period – look for higher time frames
2) Trail you SL
3) Try and take the trades on a closing basis
In Lots of stocks, when the trend reverse , there’s no pattern formed at all. So in that case, i feel like i miss those opportunities. For example most of the nifty 50 stocks do not form any recognized patterns at all in most of the trend revarsal cases.
Hmm, I may not agree on this. There are patterns that occur on Nifty 50, on a daily basis. You need to scan for this every day.
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for the clean explanation. I got the content here. But to implement, what are the options that i should choose in kite for holding a stock for few days. And which option says its an intraday trade.
Is there any document like which you are explaining with examples, that covers different options in Buy or Sell tab and advanced options in it Eg: MIS, CNC, Day , IOC, BO, CO, AMO… etc.. It would be more helpful. Thanks in advance.
I’d suggest you attend an online demo – we conduct two demo’s on a daily basis, keep track of it here – https://www.youtube.com/user/zerodhaonline
Hi,
I have a question about cover order. Lets say the current price is Rs.100, i want to take short position exactly when price reaches 98.15, not above. How to do that in cover order?
Thank you
Ashok
Cover order using market order for quick order execution. You can, however, use Bracket Order and place an entry SL order, where the order will get executed only if the scrip falls to 98.15
But when i do that i am not getting 20x margin in bracket order. I need margin.
Thank you
Happy learner 🙂 . Not only article but replies are too helpful for newbie. only want to clarify that blue candle stick day means indexes are strongly blue.
It means that the day has been bullish and traders have bought the stock at every dip during the day.
Hi,
I have a query here around Marubozu pattern. Assuming a good news (share specific) broke out during the first half of the day (say 12 PM) and it is indeed a very big news for the share. The share jumps 4-5% and stays there till the very end. Shouldn’t we then just ignore the lower shadow (as a result of trading before news) in that case and consider it bullish marubozu? The close is almost equal to high. I know this variation does not match the text book definition but curious because the bullishness after the news is intact.
Regards,
Naveen Sharma
Hmm, interesting. But going with the assumption “price discounts every known information’, maybe this info was already out and if yes, why did the price behave the way it did before the news?
Hi Karthik,
Thanks for the reply.
Yes indeed, you have a valid point if there was some sort of insider news out already. If not then, we have to observe one or two such examples to validate it.
Thanks again.
Naveen
Yup. Good luck Naveen 🙂
Hi Karthik,
Can you help me understand how much back we should look when we say previous trend. Like just 4-5 candles or the whole 2-3 months data (assuming we are looking at daily candle). I get confused with this because sometimes the last 4-5 days are bullish or flat when the overall trend from last couple of months is bearish.
Thanks,
Naveen Sharma
This depends on your trading style. If you are looking at short-term trading, then something like 2-3 weeks or maybe 1 month is good. By short term I mean like an overnight position. If you wish to carry forward the position for few weeks, then look at at least 12 months of data.
Mr.Gentleman,
You are explaining very nice about candle stick. I read you today here. My estimate mostly gone opposite to me in Intraday trading. Though i read candlestick pattern at youtube too. why such happen ?
Manish
Becuase markets do not guarantee profits, Manish. Remember, candlesticks only enhances the probability of a profitable trade.
What to do when you initiated a short trade based on bullish marubuzo and next day there was a bounce back and a bullish harami appeared? (Just hypothetical trades)
You are not supposed to short based on bullish Marubuzo. Assuming, you meant bearish marubuzo, you get out of the trade once your SL hits. Remember, candlesticks only enhances the probability of a profitable trade.
Sorry! I meant bearish marubuzo. Thank you
Cheers!
Dear Karthik,
Thanks for the wonderful article. I have a doubt. I do intraday and use BO on Zerodha. If I apply your explanation on say IDEA or SAIL with 5minute candles, a bald candle is not followed by the bullish or bearish trend as mentioned by you. Could you please throw more light to help me understand better?
Thanks in advance.
Well, candlesticks patterns only enhance your probability of success. There is no guarantee here 🙂
Hello Karthik
I have a doubt.
One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range). Can you be a bit more elaborate? What do you mean by 1% and 10% ranges?
Small and large range does not really represent regular volatility. It is more of an aberration, which I think should be avoided.
Cool..I could not understand on what is percentage range based on?.
Correct me if I am wrong
Let’s say the stock’s value on 02-03-2018 is Rs.1000. So on 03-03-2018 , one should avoid trading if the (high-low) on that day is either less than Rs.10 or greater than Rs.100. In other words , for that stock, one can trade on 03-03-2018 , if 10 < (high-low) <100 ?
10 represents a 1% move, which is quite normal. 100, on the other hand, is quite steep (10%). I’d avoid trading solely on such moves.
Thanks Karthik 🙂
Cheers!
I am new to stock market and trading, but the way you explain things is super easy. I am literally amazed with the easiness of the content. The content makes me want to read more and more. Thank you so much for this awesome explanation. 🙂
Great article on the candlestick patterns. But, I have few doubts regarding the single candlestick – Marubozu pattern.
1) Can i use this candlestick pattern for intraday on 5 min and 15 min charts?
2) Suppose i am going with the bearish marubozu pattern by selling the futures of a particular stock (where i would like to short my position by holding my stocks over 3-5 days). Can i buyback the same number of shares from the cash market instead of buying a futures of the stock to offset the position?
1) Yes, preferably 15 mins
2) You can, but why do you want to do this? This will offset your position and your P&L will be restricted.
Ok thanks, that helps. I just wanted to understand the possible ways to offset a position in futures.
Calendar spreads help to a large extent. Will be discussing the same in Module 10.
Hi sir, your lessons are great. please answer my query
Open – 93.95
Low – 93.55
high – 104.50
close- 103.90 is this marubozu?
Yes, it certainly is. Although, I think the presence of the small upper shadow can be ignored.
Hi, great content…
I have a doubt. If you wait till 3:20 pm to ascertain that there really is a bullish marubozu, and then initiate a trade, when will you sell it for profit? The next day?
The day your target is achieved. In fact, once you get into a trade, you wait till either your target is hit or till your SL is triggered.
how to choose the moving average for 15 min and 30 min from the kite , there is no time scale provided. pls help me
If you want the effective moving averages of 2 timeframes in a single chart, you can add moving averages with 2 different periods.
For example, open a 30 min chart, add MA with period 50(30 min), then add MA with period 25(15 min).
You can set different colours for the moving average lines for easy identification
Hi there,
I have two queries.
1. Can you please explain stoploss from both buyer’s and seller’s point of view?
2. You said that one should refrain trading during long candle. Does this hold true for risk averse trader as well (since he will execute the trade during the closing hour of next day? If the trade still takes place, what will be the stoploss at, the low point of long candle day or that of the next day?
1) Buyer: Buys at 75, places trigger at 72.35 and SL at 72. Seller: Sells at 75, place trigger at 77.85 and SL at 78
2) I would think so as the long candles depict higher range and not really representative of its true volatility
why would a seller place a stop loss at a price above the selling price? Wouldn’t a seller want maximum from the sale of a stock?
A seller (I’m assuming he is short) would make money if the stock goes down from the point he has sold which also means he will make a loss if the stock goes higher than the point at which he has sold. Hence SL needs to be higher than that.
I have one more query. You said that once trade is initiated, the stoploss is triggered and one exits from the trade but could lose since the price can again go up. But i want to know, if one does not want a stoploss, and he has started the trade, the price goes down and again up. At what point will the shares be alloted?
I’m a little confused with your query. SL is basically a risk management technique. You place a stop loss to protect yourself from an adverse movement in the position you’ve taken.
Hi,
I have a doubt in Bearish Marubozu. When the closing price was 341, i should be selling at that price rite. Why i should keep the stop loss as previous day high(356). If we set this price as trigger price the order won’t get executed right? Am i missing some basic understanding? Please help
Since you are shorting, the trigger price (and the SL) price is higher than the price at which you short.
Hi karthik,
I am enjoying reading these modules. In light of recent events, when some or other event affects the price of stock drastically, is it required to follow daily news in addition to the technical analysis aspects in order to make fruitful trades?
Regards
Yes, this always helps. Following the news is important as it gives a sense of the street sentiment.
5.4 – The trade trap
Earlier in this chapter we did discuss about the length of the candle. One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
How to calculate this range?
Great content btw. Much appreciated!
You have two ways to measure the range –
1) Range = Difference between the open and close
2) Range = Difference between the high and low
I personally prefer the 1st way.
if a bullish marubozu is formed,one has to buy as per rule but you say look for previous trend.when should one buy in downtrend or uptrend?
Marubozu is the only pattern for which the prior trend does not really matter.
Hi Karthik,
When you say one should “exit” at stop loss if a bullish maribozu turns bearish next day, one sells at stoploss price and exits. For a bearish maribozu, does one “exit” by buying at stoploss price which is going to be higher? Is exit here always meant to be sell or includes buy also as in the case of bearish maribozu turning bullish next day?
Thanks,
Sreedhar
Exit here means square off. Basically, you cut a loss-making position and get out of the markets completely.
Hey I have few queries
1-If we see a Blue candlestick with no shadows or with very less variation does that mean it is a bullish marubozu or do we have to check the closing price at the end of the day (3:20 PM) which must be aprrox. equal to high of the marubozu?
2-In a bearish marubozu why is stop-loss placed above the sell price? (is it due to sentiments to make some profit before exiting )
3-what is shorting and when can it be used?
1) Yes, it is a bullish marubuzo, I’d suggest you validate this at 3:20 or near market close
2) See my previous comment
3) Shorting is selling first and buying later, you do that when you expect prices to go lower.
In the given examples, a risk taker buys or sells on the same day as that of the formation of the Marubozu, at approx 3.20pm. What I cannot understand is how is he able to carry over his position to the next day since MIS orders are squared off on the same day. Can you please shed some light on this?
You can always do a futures position.
Another question, range is calculated as a percentage of the closing price, or the opening price on the Marubozu day?
Yes.
Hi, is this pattern valid only on daily or smaller time frame for intraday trading also?
Valid across all assets across all time frames.
Hi Karthik
For a bearish Marubozu, the stop loss is at a higher point. Does that indicate that we should buy the stock at that point?
Yes, you have to in case the trade is going against you.
Firstly, a nice article indeed. Secondly, I have a doubt that, if one comes to know of a bull/bear marubozu candle. And a risk taker, as suggested, takes a position at the EOD (3:20pm). Are you talking of long position holders or intraday square offs? Coz, at 3:20pm, the position taker has hardly got any time to square off the position. Please clarify this. Also, does that mean, marubozu candles are only for long position takers?
Thanks
Om.
You can initiate the trade in the futures segment, Om. Bullish Marubozu is for going long and the bearish one is for the shorting.
Hi Sir,
Just want to clear few things as given below
1. I want to do intraday trading so in this single candlestick pattern , what timeframe i have to choose to do the good trading ( 1M ,5 M , 15M or 30M timeframe in chart)
2. Do we need to see any trend before Bullish marubuzo, or Bearish Marubuzo? Also if any Bullish or Bearish Marubuzo candle happen in chart at any point of time then we have to see the next candle also to exceute the trade ?
1) Candlestick patterns work well across all time frames. However, I’d suggest you stick to at least 10M or 15M to reduce the noise component
2) No, marubuzo is the only pattern which does not require any prior trend.
Hi Sir,
I am beginner and was going through the chapter.I have some doubts .I am not able to attach screenshots here.But if i see 15min chart for Spice Jet Today(29th May) I see a bearish marubuzo and a bullish marubuzo back to back.
a)How can i go through in such situations.
This is quite possible, Kumar..especially on a 15 minutes candle. I’d suggest you pay more importance to the latest candle.
Karthik Sir,
Can to today’s Nifty Bank’s candle can be said
It looks like a bearish engulfing pattern, Saurabh.
For studying Bank Nifty & Nifty pattern should I look at Nifty Future data or Nifty data
I’d prefer spot data.
What is the ideal time frame for the candel stick chart to analyse marubozu strategy?
You can use this across any time frame, Gurmmet. I personally prefer to look at it on an EOD basis.
Buy strength and sell weakness
Can you please explain this point. Shouldnt we buy a stock when its market value is less, and then sell it when its value is high?.I dont understand this point.
P.s:Very good job! I have been reading and learning from quite a while now.
This is because you can ride on the momentum, Vidushi.
Dear sir,
I have gone through most of the chapters in technical analysis however i have a question in mind.suppose today i use technical analysis and find that the price is right to buy and i place a cnc order.tomorrow suppose it is a good day to sell however i dont have my stocks in demat hence i cant sell them(btst is too risky).the next day i receive the stocks however the price is not right anymore.what do i do in such case?will all technical analysis go waste due to the t+2 delivery system?i have assumed i dont want to place an intraday order.
Hmm, you can always look a taking a position in Futures, Aditya.
thank you sir for the prompt response.
1)Does this mean i can buy and sell whenever i want in futures?(before the expiry date of course)
2)If I place NRML order on some future today,can i sell it tomorrow?(without facing btst risk and penalty)
3)can i convert MIS order to NRML?
4)can i convert NRML order to MIS?
5)are the above applicable for options as well?
1) Yes, you can do that
2) Yes, there is no concept of BTST in futures
3) Yes, you can convert
4) Yes, you can convert
5) Yes.
can you provide the zerodha varstiy videos
No video content, yet.
During intraday trading, if I notice Marubozu candle on 5 minutes chart, can I initiate a trade?
Yes, you can.
Hi Karthik,
Do the lengths of both the upper and lower shadows matter or only the directional ones? Eg, the upper shadow for a bullish marubozu and the lower shadow for a bearish marubozu.
Thanks!
Yes, do pay attention to the upper/lower shadows.
Dear Sir,
I hope you might have answered this question earlier… sorry I have not gone through all comments.
my Question.
Example: open = 20, Low=19 and if around 1 o’clock MARUBOZU stick formed in the range of 22 to 24.
we have still 2.5 hours to close the day. We can buy here or need to weight for the day to end ?
It is always advisable to wait until the closing to confirm the pattern.
Hello !!
Thanks for simple explanation in the tutorials.
I have a question, how to identify Marubozu bars with small bars (red or blue) before Marubozu bar ?
How to identify Marubozu bars with shadows in streak for both top and bottom of the bar ?
Thanks in advance,
Venkat
I’m guessing you are doing this during the market, so always compare the current market price with respect to the high and low, you will get a sense of how the wicks are shaping.
Dear Sir,
In all charts time period (X-Direction) of Candle not shown but only price is shown (Y-Direction) why ?
If we get chart with time period it will be helpful to understand. What time Marubozu candle formed and more ?
if possible, Could you please update the charts ?
Please comment on this….
Thanks is small word for educating us through this VARSITY portal .
The x-axis on the chart represents time, and it is present in all the charts. I’ll anyway, relook at the charts. Thanks.
Sir,
In todays nifty chart can we say it is bearish marbuzo? Nifty looks weak in daily chart .. Its closed below 4 day MA.
Can we initiate bear call spread?
Well, this really depends on what you think will happen to the markets 🙂
Hello Karthik,
Appreciate you on sharing this article.
1.If bullish Marubozu formed and if I want to buy next day, then what time should I enter into that stock? in case of stock opened bullish on next day.
2.Could you please let me know how frequently do we see “The Marubozu” candle sticks in a month in Indian Stock market?
Thx in advance.
1) If you are highly risk-averse, then you need to buy at the end of the day. Else if you are the risk taker, then you can buy at the open. Really depends on your risk appetite.
2) There is no way one can arrive at this. You can look back in the historical charts of a stock/index you are interested in and make some conclusion. But certainly, no predictive models that I know of.
Hello Karthik
I. Have. Read. Almost. All. The. Comment regarding. Range. . but. I. Still. Don’t. Understand. It. Could. You. Give. An example. With. Calculation?
Hope my previous reply will help you with this.
Hello Karthik,
I still. Don’t. Get. It. Let. Us. Say. OHLC data. Is. As. Follows O=300 H=350 L=280 C=320 will. This. Result. In short. Or. Long. Candle. Please. Explain. With. Respect to. The. Range.
Where are you getting stuck?
Hello Karthik Sir,
I don’t have much knowledge about trading(intraday) as I am used to just investing in market for long term purpose. I have some dou0
I have some doubts after reading this chapter.
1.Trading/Intraday means we have to square off over position same day before market closes right?
2. If yes, then as you mention in chapter the formation of marubazu will be concerned only near closing time. And you said risk taker will buy on same day means just before closing time of market. Then how will he make profit as in trading we can not keep stock till next day?
1) Trading = usually referred to short-term trades like hold the position for few days. Intraday = close the position same day
2) You can carry the position forward.
Thank you Karthik sir for clarifying my doubt. Till now I thought trading means only buying and selling on same day.
Good luck, Omkar!
Sure, please let me know. Thanks.
One more small doubt sir…
According to bearish morubazu we need to short the stock rite?
And we can not carry short position to next day rite?
Yes, you can. You need to use the futures contract for this.
Ohh OK. So we can’t do this in normal equity market.
Yup.
Hey team, i have couple of questions,
1. how can i select a stock and how can i understand the future of that stock seeing the graph.
2. from where i can get the terminal for trading (software)
1) This is in fact, the essence of Candlestick patterns, suggest you read through the entire module 😉
2) If you have a Zerodha account, you can get access to the terminal. If you don’t have an account, I’d suggest you look at this – https://zerodha.com/?ref=varsity
(The sell price should be around closing price of marubozu. ) you have mention this in bearish marubozu . Lets take a example , o-355.4 ,h-356 , L- 341 , c- 341.7
Now we hear in shorting sell high buy low , is that right? If it is right then according to your mention we should sell on closing price and in price example closing price is 341.7 instead 356. I am newbie and learning lot from zerodha and i don’t know i am wrong or right, just enlight me
Jay, you sell low in a marubuzo, with an expectation that it will go lower over the subsequent trading sessions 🙂
Hi,Kartik i am greatfan of yours. Want know what is EOD chart.I am a positional trader.
EOD means End of Day, this is used with reference to data points and charts. EOD chart means, the end of day charts, which is different from intraday (5 mins, 10 mins, 15 mins etc) charts.
I didn’t understand why the buying prize should be around closing prize and not opening price since the opening price is lower.
And also why the selling price should be around closing price and not the opening price in the bearing market.
Remember the rule – buy strength and sell weakness, this can be confirmed only by closing.
Manish, there is no guarantee that the opening price will be lower 😉
Good article about Marubozu Candle
Happy learning!
You said in the end that to avoid extreme long and short candles as per the range,
But what if:
If we are risk averse traders and after Bullish Marubozu candle formation on previous day, the next day it is a blue candle day , but the range of the candle/ body of the candle is really small or long, then should we initiate the trade or avoid it?
Thank you
I would initiate the trade only if the candle is small. I’d avoid the long range candle due to deep SL.
Please explain this~
The risk averse trader would buy the stock on the next day i.e the day after the pattern has been formed. However before buying the trader needs to ensure that the day is a bullish day to comply with the rule number 1. This means the risk averse buyer can buy the stock only around the close of the day. The disadvantage of buying the next day is that the buy price is way above the suggested buy price, and therefore the stoploss is quite deep. However as a trade off the risk averse trader is buying only after doubly confirming that the bullishness is indeed established.
Jatin, that is the explanation 🙂
Can you please tell me which part is confusing? I’ll be happy to explain.
Hello Karthik,
I am a bit confused about using SL while buying and SL while selling.
What happens when
1) I buy a share with StopLoss ??
2) I sell a share with StopLoss??
As I understood, while selling a stock, if I use SL with trigger price, then i am making sure to book minimum loss. Is it correct??
But about using SL while buying a stock/share is not clear yet…
Comments pls
1) The SL when you buy should be placed below your buying price. For example, you buy/long at 107, SL should be 107 or lower.
2) The SL when you sell should be placed above your selling price. For example, you sell/short at 107, SL should be 107 or above.
Is this what you are looking for?
Dear karthik,
Can we do positional trades based on these candle stick patterns or are they only for intra day trading?Do the stop loss rules apply for positional trading too?
Yes, of course you can. Remember, CS patterns are applicable for all assets, all timeframes.
Sir, is Marubozu only for intraday trading or can it also be used for medium/long term?
The article only talks about buying on a bullish day. When exactly does one exit after buying a marubozu? Suppose I buy at 3.20 on a bullish day, do I have to sell it on the same day or can I sell it the next day also?
It can be used across any time frame and any asset.
How can we determine the future price of the stock using candlestick patterns?
Candlestick pattern only helps in estimating the probability of an outcome. No guarantees.
What does Bullish Marubozu followed by Bearish Marubozu indicates? For example in Yes Bank, Bullish Marabozu was formed on 11-Nov-2018 (Open = 214 ; High = 229.4; Close= 227.9 and Low- 213.2).. This has been followed by Bearish Marubozu on 13th Nov 2018 (Open= 230; Close= 223.05,High = 230.85;Low= 221.1). [Unable to upload the chart]
Well, clearly the markets are undecided with volatility kicking in. Suggest you avoid taking directional bets on this stock.
Can we use this in Index option trading? and I am little bit confuse about percentage on which we need to buy or sell (0.2 or 0.3).
Yes, you certainly can use this for trading options as well. You can take any values between 0.2 and 0.3.
I have check Nifty18NOV 10600CE option 3min candle when the Bullish Marubozu is form after that market goes down because there is red candle after that and it form anywhere in whole time schedule.
Shreyas, you should not apply candlestick on option charts. Apply it on the underlying instead.
Hi Karthik
I didn’t follow what you have explained in ‘The Trade Trap’ section. 1% and 10% of what thing are we talking about?
I found an answer in the comment section. please correct me if i am wrong.
so if the stock price is 1000 rs, the fluctuation should be anywhere between 10-100 rs in the whole day. right?
and in another answer you have said that compare it with last 10 days range.
can you please explain this thing with an example
Yes, you can compare the range with the 10-day average range. For example, if the last 10-day range indicates that the stock on average moves 2-3% per day, then there is no point placing the SL at 1%, cause 1% will be taken out quickly.
If the range of the candle is short or too long, then the stop loss gets too tight (1%) or deep (10%). In both these cases placing SL wont be logical.
Yea got your point buddy. Thanks 🙂
Good luck, Amandeep!
Hi Karthik.
Can you please explain that what role volume plays in breaking out the support or resistance in stocks market?
I read two different aspects
1. Break outs are confirmed by high volume i.e. in case of high volume it is highly probable that prices will break out the level of resistance/support
2. The greater the volume of trading in a support and resistance zone, the stronger it is hence in case of higher volumes the probability of breaking out should be less
Amandeep, higher volumes indicate institutional role, so the breakout is considered more stable.
Hi,
I have a doubt on bearish marubozu, is it possibe to book short trade on the end of the day (3:20 pm), because in precious chapter it indicates like short can done only on intraday trade, which means if i book short at end of the day i can able to buy back only on next day also i wont have that stock in my holdings, isn’t create any issues.
You can carry forward the short position overnight if you short in the spot market.
Dear Karthik Ji
I felt there is a little bit confusion in regular candle sticks pattern,it means ,one candle is forming red and next one is forming
green or red though there is down /uptrend respectively but If I select Heikanshi it is showing clear trend in one direction i.e.
which is avoiding many flaws to initiate trades, so can I initiate trades on “Heikanshi Candlestick” on any time frame? If I select Heikanshi then I no need to think of candlestick formation viz,bullish/bearish marubozu, hammer/hanging man/shooting start/engulfing etc., my view correct or not ?
I will be Awaiting for your valuable reply
I’m not too familiar with Haikanshi, so cannot really comment. But if you are following candlesticks, then I think the color of the candle really matters.
Hi Karthik,
Could you please explain one more time what should be exit point in bullish Marubozu pattern ?
Thanks.
Ojas, the candlestick patterns does not really give you an exit strategy. It gives you entry and SL only. However, you can use exit based on the support and resistance levels.
Hello Karthik,
extremely helpful lesson.
However, I have two doubts.
1. Why do you suggest stop loss at the opening price in case of a Marubozu Bullish candle? Why not below or above that?
2. What is the complicacy of trading in an extremely long Marubozu, if we place our stop loss at the middle of the candle, not at the opening price in case of a bullish Marubozu?
Ritesh, if its above then it can be any price right? By the way, the trade is initiated because of the pattern (price action), so it makes sense to keep the position open as long as the pattern is valid.
Placing an SL at the midpoint does not sound too intuitive. Frankly, you will have to sort of backtest this to figure out the profitability.
another doubt,
How can a risk taker trader make a profit by selling at 3:20 PM if he identifies a Bearish Morubozu that day? (as you gave an example of risk-taking trader sells a day before the confirmation of the bearish trend the next day) Doesn’t he have to square off his position at the end of the day?
He will have to initiate the short in the futures market, not in the spot market.
Oh! Thank you.
Welcome!
“The trade on the bearish marubozu would be to short BPCL approximately at 341.7 with a stoploss at the high point of the candle. In this case the stoploss price is 356.0”
For bearish marubzu, if we supposed to enter at 341 with stop loss of 356, then when we are supposed to exit if stock is continued to drop down below 341not breaching stop loss.
You’d have to close the position the day it hits the target. Like I have mentioned, once you initiate a trade, you stay in it, either the target is hit or SL is breached.
Sir I have a doubt regarding stop loss
As it mentioned in above bearish marubozu, stop loss is high of the bearish marubozu, my doubt is how can it be high of marubozu if the stock would go down after formation of bearish marubozu.
Did it mean, if i had stock already, now its time to initiate selling trade (or)
it means to stop initiating the trade
please give me reply sir- regards
Pranay, what in case the stock goes in the opposite direction after you initiate the short position? Where would you cut your loss? For this reason, we need to identify the SL position, not just for bearish Marubuzo, but for all trading position, based on candlestick or otherwise.
Does it applicable to intraday
Yup, applicable across all time frames.
Today for Bharti-Airtel, below are the Day-Candle numbers:-
High = 334.80
Open = 334.10
Low = 328.15
Close = 329.60
Can I consider this as a Bearish Marubozu and short trade tomorrow ?
The upper and lower shadows appear insignificant, maybe you can I guess.
Good Information ! Thanks a Lot !
Sure, keep going Sharat!
As explained above (in the bullish Marubozu section), we should buy strength and sell weakness.
The thing that I don’t get is that, if we buy at a high price (strength) and sell at a relatively lower one (weakness), wouldn’t we lose money on the trade?
Maybe I didn’t understand it correctly.
Thanks for your consideration.
-Ranjit
The point is that you buy strength with a hope that the strength will continue and sell when there is the weakness emerges in the market. In a sense, we are betting on the continuity and not really for reversals.
Got it.
Thanks Karthik.
Hi Karthik,
Many thanks for the article. Can’t explain how useful this initiative is.
Couple of questions
1. Could you please explain how the “shorting” process works using Kite. If it has been explained separately, please provide the link here.
2. How do we identify these patterns using Kite? Do we have to go through each stock or is there a way to filter them?
Your effort is much appreciated!!
Girish,
1) This is quite straight forward, on the market watch, hover on the stock/futures contract you want and click on sell. Clicking on that will short the stock
2) Kite, has a charting engine on which you can check the charts, which will help you identify the patterns.
Happy reading 🙂
Thank you very much for wonderful content free of cost..
Please let me know that if a Bullish or bearish Marubozu is formed in 1 day time frame does it impact next day intraday trades.
Or only 15 min time frame makes sense for intraday ignoring the Marubozu formed previous day.
Regards
Vikram
It does impact. For example, if it is a bearish Marubuzo, the expectation is that the stock price will go down…and this fact remains whichever timeframe you choose to look at.
Are the charts used, EOD charts or Intraday charts?
Most of them are EOD, unless specified.
5.4 – The trade trap.
“One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range)”
How do i find the length/Range of the candle stick ?
any specific settings to be enabled / any formula has to be applied.
You can measure the range in two ways – 1) Difference b/w open and close or 2) Difference b/w high and low. Divide this difference by either of the two. For example if Open is 100 and close is 110, the range is 10/100 = 10%.
Hi, I have a query on the following:
a] One should avoid trading during an extremely small (below 1% range) or long candle (above 10% range).
Is this relevant only for Intraday/MIS or to Positional trading also?
If it’s Yes for Positional trade, it would invalidate the Evening/Morning Star pattern?
b] Stoploss on Marubozu (Bullish/Bearish) : If the SL is 4% away from immediate S&R level, should it be abandoned?
1) All timeframes if you ask me
2) No, this is about the range not really the pattern as such
3) Well, this is dependent on the stock/situation really.
All the charts which are used for demonstration in the module, on which Timeframe are they based?
1min/5min…… or EOD.
Some of them are end of day, few are intraday. If its intraday, I think I have mentioned the same.
Sir content is good
I have a question that the risk averse trader is having more risk than the risk taker because risk averse trader take the trade next day so the stoploss is deep is that true please clarify
Agreed, but you need to look at it from the perspective of the confirmation of the trend, it is higher than the risk taker, who initiates the trade dame day.
Hi,
This content is really very useful .Thanks.
I trade mostly in day trading i.e. Intraday & making good profits. Could you pl your comments on following queries :
1. How can I understand difference between Correction & Downtrend. I have many times observed that as per my Indicator’s analysis , trend is going upward direction but due to sudden Bearish candle after few bullish candles, my stop loss hits. But stock trends upward direction. Could you pl guide on this.
2. Which time slot is better for day trading (5 min , 10 min etc)
Expecting your comments .
1) Well, this is the most tricky bit when it comes to the analysis of the market. No set rules as such, but I think the only thing that helps is the market experience. You gain more of it with more time spent in the market.
2) 10 or 15 mins if you were to ask me.
Hi Karthik,
I have a question,
If i am buying a stock for 100 rs and want to have a stop loss at 95, Do I need to place 2 orders? ( one order for buying and the other order for Stop loss?) or can it be done in 1 order?
Also, i am not sure what option to choose- SL or SL-M. Can you please educate me on that?
Thank you.
Anuraag
You can do this based on the product type. If you are using bracket order, then you can do this – https://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/zerodha-trader-software-version/bracket-orders-trailing-stoploss-sl