Pi – Overview and Feedback
Continued here – Pi Overview and Feedback Part 2
Traders,
For all those interested in testing Pi, do fill up this survey form. Only trading on NSE- EQ, F&O and Currency allowed.
We have over 200 people beta testing Pi (our new trading platform) currently. We will get more on board very soon. The following video should help understand the basic features and functionality for those starting off. We will have detailed videos and a complete section on Zconnect soon, dedicated to explain the plethora of tools available on Pi. Click here to watch this video on youtube.
@everyone beta testing it, we are just a few weeks away from our official launch. From now on, do post your feedback and suggestions in the comment section below. We have enabled attaching images while posting a comment on Z – Connect.
Happy Trading,
Dear Sir, Category of stock as smallcap, midcap or largecap has been recently replaced with market cap in fundamentals section.Request u to please re-add the feature of stock category as it’s quite helpful in selecting the stock.
One of the troubles with this software is that it is not very refined. For example, it is very difficult to read the numbers quicky without comma seperators; especially the volume , ask bid volume numbers. Another irritating issue is that the market watch that you create resizes itself to a very small space everyday and you have to reload it all the time.
Hi Guru, Pi is a third-party software built and maintained by TradeLab. I recommend you check out Kite, our flagship trading platform.
hi nitin,
aapke trading platform me sab kuchh achha hai lekin aap ka trading system hamesa stuck ho jata hai. kal 27.2.2019 ko lambe samay tak aapka platform trading k liye available hi nahi raha, or koi order execute ho bhi gaya to exit nahi ho raha tha, iski wajah se na jaane kitne logo ne apne lakho rupye ganva diye honge, mera bhi 2000 rs ka loss sahi samay par order exit nahi hone ki wajah se hua, iska jimmedaar kon hoga. agar aisa hi raha to aapke platform se bahut jaldi lakho log apna account delete kar lenge.
Everytime I log out from the PI, PI stops working next time and have to reinstall again. all the marketwatch and user settings washed away. all screen shots forwarded to zerodha support from the mail address mentioned above.
Dear sir,
Please make small changes in Pi software . When I make watch list of tow or more stocks I cant place the buy or sell order for that stock which I added most recently .After pressing F1 key it selects automatically for bottom one stock instead of fresh one. It makes me to manually select the fresh stock to buy or sell every time it makes little bit inconvenience. Please consider my request and make changes.
Thank you.
You can use the up-down arrows to select a stock before hitting F1 to select the stock you want to place the order for. The selected stock will have a lighter background.
request for awesome oscillaor in zerodha pi.
how soon can we expect it?
Hi Samart, wouldn’t be able to give you an ETA for this.
Please add AO ASAP.
I invested in mutual fund using zerodha platform, as said after 25k investment you would charge Rs. 50+gst which is terrible, for some reason i couldn’t continue the investment and kept 30K invested for almost close to a year paying Rs. 50+gst every month. A week ago i sold away the mutual funds with a profit of 800, 30000+800=30800, what i got in my account is Rs. 29931. Even after making a profit of Rs. 800, I had to take the loss of Rs69, reason being Zerodha’s charges + exit load.
I think the better option is to invest directly by login to the website of the company where you want to invest. Simple example, i invested the same amount in kotak directly thru kotak’s website i am not paying a single brokerage and after a year there won’t be any exit load as well, the problem is your profit is eaten up by paying charges when you invest thru the broker.
Exit load differs from fund to fund. This will be charged if you choose to exit earlier than the minimum holding period regardless of where you invest(directly with the AMC or with Coin).
The fee charged by Zerodha is a platform fee for the convenience we provide to our investors. You get to buy funds from 32 AMCs and monitor all of your holdings at one place(Also, these are stored in Demat form). More on the advantages of coin here
Hi,
On trying to install the latest Pi patch my Windows 10 defender warns of a trojan included in the executable:
Trojan:Win32/Azden.B!cl
Alert level: Severe
Could you please look into this?
Thanks.
Hi. This is a false alert. We’ll look at why Defender is doing this.
ok. BTW, why are you not using the Q as the official distribution channel for downloading Pi? why are we being asked to download from a google drive? that creates confusion and poses concerns about security given that defender is also flashing trojan alert…
The download link on Q should be updated shortly. Even now, the download link on Q is a file hosted on Dropbox. Where the file is hosted shouldn’t be an issue, but I get your saying that this should be on Q. Since the update happened over the weekend, the link wasn’t updated.
This problem still persists….. Isn’t there a clean source of Pi?
Hey Nitesh, this being a false alert, there really isn’t much we can do. As I’ve said before, this isn’t something to worry about.
could you pls let me know how I can use MT4 expert advisory in PI. if possible with instruction document. thanks in advance.
Is it possible to add ALPHA OMEGA ELLIOTT WAVE ADD-ONN to the charting in Pi- Trading platform
Can You also import Awesome Oscillator indicators into Pi ?
Really disappointed with the account opening process.What they write in emails and what they instruct on call are very different.It’s been over 2-3 months that I have registered and my account is still not active.
Hello,
When we export the chart to excel,i have observed that for Directional Movement System,the DI- does not get exported.Is it possible to enable this by tweaking the settings?
Pi working at my home n/w but not working in my office n/w.
Partha, you will have to contact your system admin, But, you can use Kite.
dear mr kamath .
sir your zerodha pi and zerodha kite are awesome software to use and simplified and easy to use
i was using many other softwares before but this give the imense pleasure to use .thanks for that hard work that your team is doing ……
i want to suggest that you add the corporate news and results that are going to announce and is anounced or ipo is going to come in the market in the zerodha kite and pi software so that the users can get the bulk of news on their kite and pi software when the are live or not live in the market many of the softwares are giving this facility like sharekhan and many more.. so this will increase the popularity of your softwatre and the users can get the essential inforamtion on their platform and they can make their own strategy before corporate results meeting announcements and other things .
thanks and regards
Nitin kumar
(happy customer of zerodha kite)
Hi,
pls add price alert in pi….except that all r good
Why Kite doesn’t allow to place buy/sell bid for cover order? we can only place bid at market rate in Pi. Everytime not possible to carry laptop with you. Kindly add Limit order facility in Kite also for cover order.
Gaurav Kumar
sir,
kindly add 2 leg orders for hedging orders like buy bnf and buy PE also simultaneously in Pi….
i m waiting from 2014!!!
thanks.
Hello,
My account just got activated today and I just got to know that Pi does not run on Mac.
I am new to this business and I just have one laptop. I came to zerodha trusting the name and the promises of its innovation.
However, it is quite alarming and very dissatisfactory to see that such a motivated brand does not have a fundamental compatibility of its tools.
Please recommend a temporary way around this problem and please do the needful to developed the mac version as soon as possible.
Snehashis, Kite is the mos preferred platform at Zerodha, works on all OS. Check this.
I am an active trader and use the trading platforms Kite and Pi very frequently. The poer that ‘Pi’, as a platform, gives the trader is immense.. The only issue that I find with Pi is that it allows only 12 charts to be opened simultaneously for us to apply our Advisers. Why is there such a limit?
Can this limit be increased? If yes, how? If no, why?
The power of Pi could be leveraged fully if around 50 charts could be opened simultaneously.
Please answer my queries and do the needful.
Regards,
Rhishikesh Agashe
THANKS FOR ADDING WEEKLY AND MONTHLY CHART , KINDLY CONSIDER MY ABOVE REQUEST TOO.PLS ADD YEARLY CHART IN PI AND VIEW ALL DATA IN ONE DATABOX, NOT SEPARATE INDICATOR AND PRICE, FURTHER HOW TO REMOVE INDICATOR OR EDIT IN PI CHART
Check the video on Pi here.
THANKS FOR ADDING WEEKLY AND MONTHLY CHART , KINDLY CONSIDER MY ABOVE REQUEST TOO.
PLS ADD YEARLY CHART IN PI AND VIEW ALL DATA IN ONE DATABOX, NOT SEPARATE INDICATOR AND PRICE, FURTHER HOW TO REMOVE INDICATOR OR EDIT IN PI CHART
hi , Nitin
please add the awesome oscillator in pi which will be very useful for us in trading… which u have provided in kite,,, thanks
Feedback taken.
please add the awesome oscillator in pi which will be very useful for us in trading…thanks
please add ATP Average traded price indicator in kite or pi
Are you referring to a VWAP? Karthik has explained on this link.
please add two colour line (red and green) in Moving average indicator just like super trand
when moving average is up green line show and than moving average is down red line show
sir your fund transfer is very poor infact it is against your policy itself…. I transfer money through instant payment gateway but money transfer after 2 days…is it your instant payment which takes 2days with 9 rupees charge????? I faced this problem two times…thats why I have to comment here bcz it is not good to complain every time we transfer money
We use the facility of a payment gateway vendor to offer the instant transfer facility. If you’re making the transfer the right way, without closing the windows, there’s no reason for the funds to not get updated. By the way, are you referring to the transfer of Rs.900? If yes, the funds have been updated to your account already. If you’ve made an additional transfer, please send the details through to [email protected] so we could check.
sir pi ke haikin ashi me problem hai
kite main haikan ashi ka open, last candle ka open/close ke center se shuru hota
per pi mein programing wrong hai
please kuch kare
laxmikant soni
812029286
Please look into the following suggestions to improve the PI platform.
1. please make market watch, order book, trade book and admin position floating over PI in stead of pop out active window.
2. Pl allow to see all trades of particular script in stead of all trade of all script.
3. One column to display BEP may be added in Admin position window.
4. Order popup window should open instantly on pressing F1 / F2.
please add indicator
haikin ashi exit
metatrader
Hey Nitin
This mail happens to be an amalgamation of zerodhas pros and the arenas of further improvement
Its said the soil stands most fertile for the seeds if you nuture it with the necessary ingridients and the success of tree over the years of hard work is the inevitable outcome. Zerodha happened to be a pioneer in obliterating the wall between the interests of traders and brokerages. Its history has been amongst the golden pioneers of businesses that mankind has hitherto not seen and henceforth shall be remembered in future. Over the months, the simplified platforms has been a mind friendly zone to all the investors at zerodha.
Lately i was scrounging net for competitve brokerages and i believe that a one to give you a tough competition has just spread its wings wide enough to come under investors notice.
5paisa.com
I saw their pricing strategy and a with a flat 10 rate for any trade one executes i believe zerodhas % pricing for intraday trades and 20 to be top of the max may seem to be having a tough fight against it in future. As someone who would love to see zerodha grow exponentially here are some suggestions i thought i should share
A rate of 10 or 0.01% of trading value whichever is lower
No brokerages should one incur loss
Continue to maintain 0 brokerages on delivery
As a person who just started at an early age, like you, i would love to be providing suggestions to zerodha as its an entity thats got immense potential. I hope my views would find interest. Good day ahead.
Hopefully would also want to work with someone as dedicated as you at zerodha. Passion is what that builds us after all
Thanks
Regards
Pranav Arneja
🙂 cheers,
Taken zerodha subscription and will start trading in Nifty Future from coming April. Right now I am just testing all features of Pi. Charts updation on real time basis is very important. If it is not done properly in Pi it will kill my purpose. Hope everything is fine.
Chart updation is as real as possible.
Have been using zerodha for more than 2 months now and have a DP of more 3 lakhs. My observations:
Kite: very buggy charts. If you pop out a chart and draw something using tools, than that drawing sticks even if you clear it. Chart settings cannot be individually varied. If you change time frame in one chart, it applies to all charts. HTML 5 is not all that appealing after all
Pi: Charts do not update on a real time basis. Charts hang if you try to open more than 4-5 of them.
No market calls; No reports;
RSD, yes no market calls and reports, that is not our business model. About charts, must be something to do with your system settings. Am getting our team to call you up on this.
Hi Nitin,
Everytime i use scanner, all the scripts loaded to scanner are getting displayed instead of only those scripts whose condition is getting satisfied.
In scanner all the scrips will be loaded and to know for which the condition is satisfied one need to check on alert time column. When scanner is started alert time will be same for all and will show start time, when condition is satisfied alert time column will show that time when condition is satisfied.
Hi nitin ji,
i want to tell you if you can put one more feature in pi , then it will be great for us.
the feature is:-
when we place our mis order , the quantity should not exceed the allowed quantity , which is calculated by our funds available , margin allowed and price of share.
this way one will have not to go to you margin calculator page again and again.
i hope you must have understood my problem.
please do reply.
thank you very much.
Sir,
Is it possible for you to implement this in the PI
1) A “Serial No.” coloumn in the “Market Watchlist” which would enable the user to sort stocks in group and would also enable the user to get rid of creating multiple watchlist unnecessarily
example: Suppose I have added 9 bank stock at first it means from 1-9 all the stocks are bank stocks, then iadded 6 IT stocks so from 10-15 all the stocks are IT stocks again I added 5 oil stock so from 15-19 all are oil stocks and finaly I added 6 realestate stocks so from 20-25 all are realestate stocks. Also whenever I am sorting in ascending and descending order they are only arranging themselves from top to bottom and viceversa without changing their original serial no. In this way it would be possible to create diffent sectors stocks in a same market watchlist without opening multiple watchlist unnecessarily that would also reduce the resource load on software I guess.
2) i) net change coloumn of market watch with color indicator like if net change is negative it will be red/orange and if it is positive it will be blue/green
ii) ichimoku kinko hyo in chart i am not talking about expert adviser.
Please Comment
1. One can add scripts on to market watch and arrange as required, save it as Workspace by going to file menu. After next login load the saved workspace and it will load exactly the way it is saved, this should solve your request. Here’s a short video on how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXciH0S_zs
2. In our list of things to do.
3. Will check on the possibility with our development team.
Can you please guide me from where can i get the PI download link.
I need to reinstall PI and the link in the downloads section is not working.
Login to Q to download Pi: https://q.zerodha.com/pi/
Sir, Please reply if you can do the following:
i) net change coloumn of market watch with color indicator like if net change is negative it will be red and if it is positive it will be blue
ii) ichimoku kinko hyo in chart i am not talking about expert adviser.
Thank You
Venu says:
August 1, 2016 at 12:48 pm
The LTP of Stocks is already available. Right click on the Column header and select the LTP option to add it to the Holdings window.
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LTP column open and also my my required column added in stock holding window. but column profile not saved. When I reopen or relog to pi, some column comes or some not. or default open. I have to reset again. Same thing occurs when I saved my active workspace. after reload my saved workspace column arreng pi its own way not restore my setting. It is very pathetic to set every time. Also script sequence change. It is need to rectify in next patch.
Make sure the used application is dated 29/07/2016 by going to about zerodha pi under help menu.
Goto view->user setting->market watch->select save layout on exit->apply->ok. This should save columns.
no, it is not store column order way Lastly I set before closing pi. I also enable setting as you mention, and mi pi version as 29/07/16. My os is windos 10. Hope some bug still present in pi need to rectify. I also use Odin which also has column profile and stock profile separately .
Pls add tools which can calculate or view pivot point with 3 support and 3 resistance after right click on stock. wait for reply from pi technical team.
Pivot points are already available on Pi. Open chart, right click on chart and select pivot points.
Hi Nithin,
I am not able to drag the charts into the second monitor that I use. How should I do it?
First you have to popout the chart, go to view and select popout active window and then you can able to drag the chart to other monitor.
Many Thanks for Pi developer team. New patch added Q-Buy AVg And Q-Sell Avg in admin section. very use full for calculate ultimate loss or profit. No need to open Kite/Q-back off to verify Avg buy or sell price.
One feedback from my side that please add one column LTP in next patch in pi at “stock holding ” section. It will also help full to all user.
The LTP of Stocks is already available. Right click on the Column header and select the LTP option to add it to the Holdings window.
LTP column open and also my my required column added in stock holding window. but column profile not saved. When I reopen or relog to pi, some column comes or some not. or default open. I have to reset again. Same thing occurs when I saved my active workspace. after reload my saved workspace column arreng pi its own way not restore my setting. It is very pathetic to set every time. Also script sequence change. It is need to rectify in next patch.
Make sure the application in use is dated 29/07/2016 by going to about Zerodha-pi under help menu.
Then goto view-user settings-market watch-select save layout on exit-apply-ok. This should save columns.
Kite is not up to mark performance due to following reason, need to update
1.All stock option script not shown.
2. Can not delete script from android mobile.
3. Main market index not shown on top
Drawbacks for PI
1. only windows OS support. no proxy support.
2. New version support multi window by Ctrl+w but cant store those script or this new window. every time you have add script in new window by name.
pls rectify those problem in new version…. waiting for that
Kite
1) If one type the scrip followed by strike or with month name it will show up.
2) One can swipe along the scrip, it will be deleted.
3) Working on it.
Pi
1) Yes, as of now.
2) Goto view->user settings->market watch-> and select save layout on exit and market watch confirmation on exit and apply.It will save scrips added once.
Chart is freezing sometimes when open multiple charts …… plz correct this problem
often Zerodha Pi candle Stick chart is freezing. This is Major problem for those who’s trading based on chart. Plz resolve this problem
Hi Nithin,
Started using Pi and Kite for a week. However, below are few points which I would like to highlight in my first few day’s use:
1. Please try to launch a browser based platform having a dashboard with details like daily high, low, prev close, weighted avg, S1-R1, S2-R2, volume etc. for multiple scripts like a tabular view where it is possible to have a one glance view of all the scripts I am tracking. This is seriously missing in Kite.
2. Though Pi provides an extensive dashboard for a list of scripts, it does not run on mac or android. Also having an application installed in each device you use is a very old concept. Hence, you need to come up with a browser based solution which is emerging concept recently.
3. In Pi I do not find any option to configure proxy server details, hence, it is not at all usable for me in office. Also it does not run on Mac, neither on Android, so I am completely crippled and cannot use it throughout the day when I stay connected in office network and when people usually trade.
4. Zerodha does not support GTD (good till date) for Equity trading. This is a very useful tool in case you have to take a short break while you take a short business trip or go out for your holidays (in case you do not have all-time access to internet).
Hope you will address these points in future releases of services and products from Zerodha and best of luck for your venture.
Regards..
Yep, all on our list of things to do.
Thank you for your precious time.
can u please give me the script for super trend ?
Don’t have a ready made script, but we will have supertrend indicator on Pi soon.
Please add super trend indicator on Pi,
i am not able to write the script for super trend……,,,
Coming up very soon. 🙂
Hi nitin , Can you please tell me in pi why ichimoku chart is not available in pi though it is in mobile version?
Pi (desktop) and Kite(Web and Mobile) uses different charting library. It is available on Kite.zerodha.com
I have observed that the Renko chart on Pi gives out lagging/delayed update on brick formation from actual ( one brick/box behind ).
for example let say If box size is 50 on Banknifty and Spot price is 16811, the last brick formation closed at 16731, theoretically one more brick/box of 50 could have formed.
Same with Nifty and other stocks as well, and noticed its always one or two brick/box formation delay.
Is it any kind of issue/bug (technically) or it has to be like this only.
How to get Heiken Ashi Smoothed chart on Pi, i am not talking about its code, i m talking about the chart type itself.
In Pi when instead of candle chart, we go for Heikin Ashi chart day separator does not work i.e. if we prepare Heikin Ashi chart for five days, then days cannot be separated. This gives lot of problem in analysing the chart. Please provide day separation for Heikin Ashi charts also. Thanks so much.
Making a note, thanks.
If it in your future plan also to incorporate it then also it’s great !!
Keep up your good work to the trading community. All the best.
Ok I am referring to “tick charts” such as 300- tick (As we can see in Amibroker settings) charts not “tick by tick” charts. Zerodha can incorporate it in Pi.
Ah right, tick charts not possible currently. On our list of things.
Sir, tick charts are very important in intraday trading. But Pi is missing this feature. If there is problem in providing tick data then I request you to provide some Custom X-Tick chart which you find to be useful. I heard some brokerage firm providing tick data in India so I request to please incorporate it in Pi trading terminals.
Regards.
No retail broker in India provides TBT (tick by tick) data as every second there are 1000’s of ticks that cannot be transferred through Internet. What’s referred to as ‘tick’ chart isn’t tick by tick data.
Respected sir..I am using a trading software & i am quite happy with that… i had also open an account in Zerodha…just need to confirm that the price are showing in PI or NEST or Zerodha Trader Terminal…is those the real price or not?…Sir, i am not worried about the Terminal Chart…just want to confirm whether the Terminal price is authentic & real or not…Thanks
They are as real as they get.
Bollinger Band %b is already available with kite but not available with Pi as part of a technical analysis. And I follow this technical indicator / analysis to trade. So, Could you please add Bollinger Band %b as a technical analysis in Pi.
Also make the saved chart template as the default opening chart settings, like kite. So, that once I set my chart and technical analysis and save them as template, it should be loaded every time when ever I open chart for any stock, just like Kite.
WE are working on having all of this on Kite.
NITIN SIR, IN DAILY CHARTS SOME DAY CANDALS ALWAYS MISSING. EXAMPLE :-IN GOLD DAILY CHART THERE IS NO CANDLE FOR 23 SEPTEMBER 2015. YOU KNOW IT IS BIG MISTAKE. SOME OTHER DAILY CHARTS THERE IS NO CANDLE FOR 1ST SEPTEMBER. THIS IS BIG MISTAKE IN PI. DO SOMETHING FAST.
How can we add market depth overlay on price chart. if not can we import external chart template?
Ah, currently, can’t add. Not possible to import external chart template either.
Is there a way to make Bracket orders through any through any other medium except for PI? Couldn’t find the way to give bracket orders in either PI or Z5?
Is there any other way to give target and stop losses together for a new purchase excepting the Bracket Order?
Pi allows you to place Bracket orders. Shift+F3 is the shortcut to buy and Shift+F4 to place a sell order.
It isn’t available on Z5, Kite.
There’s no other facility which allows you to place an entry order/SL/target on one click. You may have to place it all separately.
Hey just thought id inform you about a small glitch i found while using pi.
When you pop out the admin window, close the blank admin tab within pi, close the admin pop out window, and try to open it again, pi crashes.
Checking.
Hello, I tried opening Pi on Sunday afternoon but it didn’t open. It said “Unable to connect to the data server. Should be soon.” I wanted to analyse the data but not able to. Is chart on Pi not available on off days? If not, please let me know how can I analyze the data on off days? Thank you.
Aditya, we are trying to do some changes today, hence the server is off.
Can I do only quantitative calculations using trading script in pi instead of using Tech analysis.
Can I calculate some formulas based on open, high, low, last trade, previous close, previous high etc.
Is it possible to use some variables with these calculations and compare with live market prices like current high, low or LTP.
Check this: http://tradingqna.com/algos-strategies-and-code, we have many coding queries using tradescript answered. Yes you should be able to do a lot of what you have written.
Hi Nithin,
When can we expect Pivot points plotted on the charts for PI.
Soon.
Dear Nitin
Is it possible to provide an option for squaring off the open bracket order trades on zerodha trader (i.e the mobile app.). This would be great, as it would help us in handling our bracket orders even when we have to rush out for urgent works. Also provide multiple market watch tabs in PI.
Is there a tutorial for using expert advisors and other features as i am new to all these features.
sharath
Currently the mobile/web app can’t support Bracket orders.
Check this for expert advisors. http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/pi-tradezerodha/eas-for-auto-buysell-signals-pi
Bracket order firing from AMI is it possible?
No Gopi.
how to feed “order status” information to ammibroker?
how ammibroker know the information about order is executed or not?
Gopi, for now you can only fire orders. The order response can’t still be captured back on Ami.
Hi.. i am new for pi user. The bse chart getting blank. Is only pie for nse only?
Yes, for now we have historical data only on NSE stocks.
I have got PI enabled in q.zerodha.com but I have tried several times but I am not able to download it my internet connection is also good tell me what to do?????
Pi is very good. Can you please add Basket Order or Spread order window from NEST for placing multiple orders simultaneously. It helps to take strategic Derivative trades.
Is there automatic update for PI available or i need to manually update it.
I have also experienced that Pi hangs sometimes while placing new orders or while squaring positions – I had to kill Pi and restart it.
I am looking forward for HTML version – hope its much better and improved, since NEST is already blocked in my office. PI is new so its not (YET !!)
Keep up the good work!!
Thanks Harpreet, getting someone to call you back and check the hanging bit. Shouldn’t happen if you are using the latest release.
Hi Nitin
While trading in Pi with Cover order, sometimes it is problematic to switch between charts n order page in order to exit a particular contract. We have to switch between the chart n order window. Can something be done to provide a button to exit a particular contract in the chart window itself once we have made a CO position in that particular stock.
And one more thing is, can we see CO being able to be placed while in the chart window on a particular stock.
thank you.
Jacob, you can arrange the charts/order book in such a way that you are able to see both at same time. Also if you have a spare montior, you can popout the windows and put it on the 2nd screen. Check this post: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/pi-tradezerodha/market-watch-trading-screen
Hi Nithin,
Today also, we see issues with the chart.
Yes Pankaj, having this fixed.
Opened new A/c. Just installed Pi . Pls check today’s 1min & 5 min charts .
Happy, some issue with historical data today, we will have this fixed by eod.
Dear Nitin,
The performance of PI has been degraded and it just hangs up. Could you check once.
Nitin,
Even I have complained about the same as the above person long time back itself that whenever it receives a new alert or something about some script’s limit has reached or something like that, it hangs up for a while and then resumes and this happens every now and then. After selecting a buy or sell order also to pop that window of buy/sell order, it again hangs for a while.
Also, I requested is there any way that if we do not want to see these alerts to bar all these alerts so that we can work smoothly.
Regards
Venu Gopal
Venu, the new release has an option for you to dis-select the popup alert option from user settings. All alerts get logged on generated alerts window.
Having someone call you back, it shouldn’t hang unless there is something gone wrong while installation.
Have problem with the charts please take a look of image of 1min nifty and 5min nifty futures chart. Please see the attached image and suggest.
Mahesh
yes Mahesh, we had some issues with our data server yesterday. You will have no issues with todays data, but yesterday’s will take a little longer to fix.
Hi Nithin.
I have been using Pi for well over the last 2 months. Few times i noticed a problem with charts where there will be error charts, which will dampen the quality of the studies that we could have done on the charts and will post a doubt of performance of Pi. For your reference I am attaching the chart that I got in the morning at 9:10 just before opening of the session and also attaching the correct charts from other broker for reference of same time.
Yes Venu, the last 2 days there have been some issues with not all data captured on the chart when you are pulling from the data server. We will have this fixed by the weekend.
Hi Nithin
In PI how to set line with dots charts like this
Sharat, currently not possible.
Hi, Is there a way to import scrip scrip list of nse equity or nse futures in PI, manually adding all FnO scrips is very cumbersome, or is there a quick method ? or a ready made scrip list ?
Please assist.
Regards
NS
NS, as of now it is not there. We will introduce this in future.
Is there any option strategy builder is there in pi as we had in NEST PLUS.
Not as of now.
hi nithin i recently opened a trading account with Zerodha. my account is activated .. i am facing prob with Nest trader … so i want to try pi .. can i access Pi ???
How do i get access to Pi?
Hi,
Too good to see fabulous features in PI. I am very satisfied. Need answer to 2 questions:
1. May I know how I can add Exponential moving Average of RSI and get it displayed the way I shown in the attached image.
2. How can I get the high, low, open and close value when I mouse hover on any given candle?
Thanks for your answers in advance.
Harish
Thanks Harish,
1. First add RSI on the chart. Now add EMA, while adding EMA you get a drop down box where you can choose on what you want to add the EMA on, Low, high, Close, Open, Volume, or RSI. Select RSI in the dropdown.
2. Left click anywhere on the chart and then hover on the candle to see OHLC.
Hi Nitin,
I tried adding first RSI and then EMA based on RSI. On clicking the apply button the whole chart candles gets shrinked and nothing visible….Pls help
Regards
Ah.. we will have this fixed. For now, when you add the EMA on RSI, you will see that all candles become really small, and then there is a straight line in the top frame. Click on this line, you will see white square boxes. Drag this to the RSI frame.
I am new at zerodha… Just installed Pi. Its odd to not find the simplest of features – line charts!!!
any plans on adding that?
Yes, line charts will come in the future.
Hi,
Can we have a CO option in mobile platform?…Is there any possibility to add thtat to in mobile application
Vel, yes we have asked our Mobile app vendors to get CO approved. We are also working on our in house platform Kite, should be up soon.
your Pi software is good but not as good as sharekhan trade tiger. you see in image below when i point out at some candle i can see the price , volume and other strategy value at right side which is missing in pi.
in pi i have to click in particular candle to see price value at the same time i cant find the volume value that i have to again shift the pointer to volume bar and click.
so it is better if you do same as trade tiger.
also its better if you add No. of buyers and sellers in top 5 buyer seller list. its helpful during trading that high quantity is by 1 buyer / seller of there is many buyers at the same price. this is also available in trade tiger.
so right now i am using trade tiger for charting and analysis and pi for trading. if you make better pi version like trade tiger than i can use only pi for both trading as well as charting.
thanking you
Mitesh, even on Pi if you left click and hover over any particular candle, you will be able to see the O H L C (from next release, you will see the volume as well). You can always initiate the snapquote to see the best 5 buys/offer.
i am unable to get charts, i am getting exception error, why ?
Send a snapshot of the error to [email protected] and [email protected]
The following can be opportunities while charting.
1. The system downloads the chart data each time, is it possible to cache the chart data to a limit in the system and only the delta information getting downloaded each time.
2. Is it possible to move between different time frames by selecting weekly, daily, hourly, minute or seconds chart
1. Yes on our list.
2. Moving between time frames will not be possible directly from the chart, atleast for now.
Hi Nithin,
Thanks for giving us Pi. Its very use full.
I would like to know how to save the charts that we create for a company with EMA, PSAR values for future use. If I login and exit the charts that I created are to be recreated is it possible to save the same..?
Also can that be replicated to another share that I select..?
Example: RELIND I have created a chart with values and now I select another company M&M
can I replicate the chart values that I created for RELIND instead of repeating what I did..?
Thanks
Valarmathi
The next udpate of Pi will have an option to save templates. So basically you can then apply the same chart template to different stocks/contracts.
Dear Sir,
After placing orders in Pi I noticed that a block for cover orders keep showing. It interferes with the main screen and cannot be moved. Please suggest how this will need to be attended. the picture is attached. I had to exit pi to get this thing off my screen.
Also, in the hourly chart, the up tick looks red while setting is green and down tick looks red while setting is red. To correct the situation, the uptick colour needs to be set as red and down tick as green. Request you look into the matter.
Also, there is no provision to move between time frames on the chart (reference as in trade tiger).
The first bit of your problem is something we are looking at.
Can you attach a snapshot and tell me more about what you mean by the hourly chart up tick looks red?
I tried looking back into the problem however did not see quite the same. If I notice again, will put up the issue.
Please add Ichimoku Cloud.
Is Pi works on Ipads ?
No
Hi Nithin
This is a feedback and a couple of suggestions on PI
on the whole pi is wonderful and I congratulate you and your team.
I have been experiencing frequent hangs(system not responding) since two days back due to which my orders were either not sent or sent at the unwanted moment.I think this has something to do with the messages that get refreshed each and every moment or something to do with the server. I dont konow if anybody else is having the same problem .Anyway it is something serious due to which I cannot trade smoothly.
Regarding charting,though great a few more things need to be done.
1.when you click on a candle the details like price(high,low),time etc should be availabe,which is missing at present. Amibroker style vertical selection lines would be an advantage
2.periodicity of day is not available now
3.It would be of great help if pivot lines (pivot,s1,s2,s3 and r1,r2,r3)are given like in sharekhan trade tiger
4.A default chart template should be there which once applied will be remembered by the system and the next time you open a chart it will be automatically applied.At present you have to apply a chart template whenever you open a chart which is very inconvenient
That’s all for the moment
Thank you
Hi,
How to enable simple plain line graph like the graph shown in google finance ?
I am a new user and i am still not friendly with Candle charts.
please add them if already not available.
Line graphs are not available, but yeah on our list.
please add supertrend indicator,
Is range bar chart available in Pi??
Hello Nithin,
First of all many many thanks for wonderful product and all the efforts taken by you
Two requestsq for Pi,
1) Is is possible to add “Width” parameter to Moving Average Lines, so that we can add extra thick, thick, thin lines depending upon our needs.
2) Is there any way to delete the indicator Panel?
a) Either it should give user a list of Indicators used, so user can enable or delete multiple indicator at a time (something similar to Metatrador) or
b) There should be an option to delete the indicator by right clicking on the panel it self same as Amibroker.
cheers!
Ajit
1. we have it on our to do list.
2. Yes, left click on the indicator and hit the delete button.
Customization of Market watch /Indices box is left to USER in case of Zerodha Trader ,a better
interface is expected in PI ,like when day’s high /low is reached ,complete Strike is high lightened.
Similarly for life high/low etc….
Hai
I am new to Zerodha and excited to see the pi features. I have one question, How can I fully automate a trade with strategies I have back tested? Can I leave the terminal unmanned and let pi do all trading for me?
Full automation is a little tricky. You need to be registered as an authorized person, and a bunch of other things. Check this. Forget the cost part of it, that would drop significantly after pi.
In Pi charts – Is it possible to display timer for completion of candle / start of new candle ?
What is required in INDICES BOX , variations based on TREND but not on TICKS.
Often it is misleading.Change your default setting.
sir i m not able to find any zerodha pi download links on the net . can u pls give the download link .
Vaibhav, you have to login to your Q.zerodha.com to request the beta of Pi first. Explained on this post.
Hi,
I have been using pi version “VERSION 1.0.0.5 – RELEASED ON 14/01/2015” for past few days. Following is my feedback-
1. It is taking long time to login. (Showing a smaller window saying “60000+ contracts are loading”. It seems not suitable for intra day. It takes 6-7 minutes for login. And time taken in higher if someone has opened 2-3 charts in previous session.
2. Pi hangs many times especially if someone has added 20-30 scripts, and then you have to restart it again and then you have to wait long for login to happen due to point 1.
3. I am not sure till what time in history the historical chart is plotted. Duration is variable. I requested a chart of bharti airtel for interval 1 hr with 104 candles (software is putting limit that not more than 104 candles can be displayed for interval 1 hr.) but I got chart with only 21 candles. It should go at least 2-3 years back in plotting historical chart if requested which is needed for back testing.
Its performance seems to be an issue to me.
Thanks,
Vishal
,correction in point 3
“I requested a chart of bharti airtel for interval 8 hr with 104 candles (software is putting limit that not more than 104 candles can be displayed for interval 8 hr.”
Vishal,
1. Use quick login, it should log you in within a minute.
2. Pi hangs, hmm shouldn’t happen, we are not experiencing this. Can you tell your system configuration and internet speed. Are you running other trading applications at the same time.
3. Bharti airtel intraday chart is available for upto 1 year. For now you should be able to see a 1 hour chart from June 2014 onwards. Getting someone to call you back.
Yesterday ,I placed an order from CHART ,then with an error message it CAME OUT from PI.
Entered again ,placed another order ,but with error message it came out of PI again.For
a third time ,I entered PI and this time ,I placed order Normally.It was OK.I checked Order Book.
My earlier orders were in PENDING status.
What was the error message? Getting someone to call you back.
Hi Nithin,
I get the attached error message when i try to open Charts in PI.I have checked all Prerequisites are installed.Can you please guide on troubleshooting steps?
Thanks
Binu
how to use Pi in computer connected internet through LAN cable
thank you
Just the same way, nothing changes.
I have downloaded new Pi and also activated.
I need help on –
– Plotting EMA on high and low prices, instead of close
– Getting different color for bullish and bearish EMA.
– Getting different color for bullish and bearish Parabolic SAR.
– Removing volume panel
– Getting Supertrend indicator with different color for bearish and bullish.
– Entering bracket order where square-off (SL and Target) order is passed only after entry order is fully executed or pending qty is cancelled.
JD, when adding the EMA, you get a box where you get to choose the time. The same box gives you an option to add EMA on high/low. The other things that you have asked for is currently not possible.
Can someone please share supertrend code for PI please
Dear Mr. Nithin,
Greetings of the day!!
First of all I will appreciate and thank you Zerodha Team and Developers for such a Good Trading Terminal.
I had used the Pi for only for a day and would like to share my feedback for the better final release and would share more if I encounter any such.
1. Would have been better if Chart are enable with the shortcut keys like Home to take to the first candle of the Chart, End key to last or latest candle of the chart, Pageup/PageDown to scroll a chart.
2. To Display label with Open,High,Low,Close of the candle on the chart.
3. Candle to be Select-able to view Open,High,Low,Close of the candle on the chart.
4. Popout active window has been provided from the view menu, it would have been better if same can be done from right click on tab or double click on the Tab 🙂
5.Observed that adding number of technical indicators has been limited, would like to increase it to few more.
6. Most IMPORTANT Once the chart has been plotted for some time interval, we have no option to shift/change the current running chart time interval.
7. Export chart to Excel has been provided but throwing an error same is attached herewith.
Once again Thank you.
Shyam
The next release will have a limit of 15 indicators compared to the 8 now. Other things are on our list of things.
Thanks for the reply,
day 2 experience:
1. Stop Loss order modification is not happening.
2. Chart zoom settings are not freezed while streeming chart is getting sqeezed.
Regards,
Shyam
I am used to your automated trading with alerts. As these were not working since the last one and half month, i was not trading. So am i not a active trader. Am i not elignble for pi until the final version is released.
Thanking You,
Dr.Kalyan
Hi Nithin
still alerts are not working and the root cause I think is that the alert linked chart which is opening automatically when we start the alert is not getting data automatically—it just freezes after opening—–I told this to siva, but he is saying why do you need the alert chart!!!!
He is not patient like you to listen and understand things. as per me the simple ligic is that when alert chart will not get data aotomatically –then how can it does its function properly???
I had lot of hopes to see at least the basic things like alerts and scanners to be perfect in the final beta release (becsuse these two aspects only primarily makes PI distinctive from other softwares available in Indian market freely to the traders), but sadly no improvements at all in these two aspects.
Hope to listen from you with things got done and dusted!!!
Cheers!!!
Santosh
Will have this checked tomorrow.
Dear Mr. Nitin,
PI is looking too good to be true. Thank you very much for the release of such a good platform in Indian market.
I have only used it one day and my initial impression is very good.
I didn’t find Daily Weekly Monthly charts options or I may have missed it. Also when I tried to view 4 hourly charts for Nifty future Jan contract I was limited to 200 candle view only.
Please let me know if there is any plan to add more past history candles as well and where I can view Daily Weekly and Monthly charts as well.
Aslo it will be great if Nifty spot chart for analysis is also available even though I know it is not tradable.
Waiting for your reply.
Wasim, check this post. Yes daily charts will be added soon. Intraday data upto 1year is presently available for top 200 stocks. We will add it for indices very soon. Yes you can add spot nifty chart as well, check the link to the post I have mentioned above.
Yes I got it now.
Also I loved the feature of exporting OHLC data directly from the charts and I was wondering if it is possible that in the future all the data since inception is made available for exporting atleast for Daily, Weekly and Monthly candles.
As and when we start Daily candles, you will be able to export that as well to excel.
Dear Nitin,
Thank you very much… Please launch the kite platform soon as it is still difficult to execute trades while we are away from home. As always with Zerodha I am having great expectations with Kite as well 🙂 . Please keep kite as light and as fast as possible.
Nitin, what does bridging Pi to MT4 mean?
If you have strategies/expert advisors on MT4, you can use the bridge to directly trigger orders on Pi. So if an EA gives a buy, it gets logged on Pi in the alerts screen, you double click on it to trade.
9th Jan 2015
So we are almost ready to launch the “final beta release of Pi” from monday, 12th Jan. If everything works well, we will have the final release of Pi within the next 3 weeks. For all those who have used the previous beta and given us feedback, it has taken us over 2 months to incorporate most of what you had requested for.
1. We did a complete upgrade of trading servers last month, so the performance has gone up significantly.
2. We have upgraded the servers that send data to the charts, so NSE, NFO, and Currency charts, will probably match up to data of the most expensive data providers in the country. Also adding indicators, drawing tool bar, and all issues around it has been fixed.
3.All exchanges: NSE, BSE, and MCX are live.
4. We have created a screen to log all your alerts from Expert advisors, Scripted alerts, and Pi bridge, for semi automated trading. Clicking on the alert places an order.
5. Pi bridge is live for amibroker. We are working on having the bridge to MT4 soon.
6. Issues around saving layouts is fixed.
7. You will have 1 year of intraday data for the top 200 stocks and indices. We will slowly add more stocks to the list. You will be able to load upto 50,000 candles on a single chart.
Bracket orders will take a little longer. Also, we presently have minute and hourly charts. End of day charts, will take few more days.
We are going to start releasing Pi from monday, we will release it only to a few for the first 2 or 3 days, and slowly increase the pace.
To enable Pi:
1. From monday, you will see a Pi icon in Q(https://q.zerodha.com/). The ID’s that we had previously enabled for beta of Pi, won’t work from monday, you will have to put a new request.
2. You will have an option to request for beta of Pi when clicked on the icon. We will be giving this beta only to our active client base, (clients who have generated atleast Rs 300 of brokerage over the last 30 days). If you are not our active client, you will have to wait until the final release.
3. Once you place a request, you will get a download link, and a key. The download link, also has a readme doc, that explains the installation process. We have simplified the installation process quite a bit. Four clicks and you should be ready.
4. Once you have done this, you will be notified on the same page when your login is enabled for trading on Pi on the same page in Q. How fast this happens will depend on the queue, and the speed at which we are releasing licenses.
5. The link to enable “Pi bridge” to connect to Amibroker for semi-automated trading will be available by next weekend on the same page in Q.
Note: It is still the final “Beta” version, so if you spot any issues do let us know. I will put up a blogpost with video on monday to run a quick overview of latest beta release of Pi.
I understand this has gotten delayed quite a bit and having Pi out soon is quite important for us as a business. We hit multiple roadblocks along the way, hopefully as they say, ” Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet”.
Happy Trading,
CAN WE EXPECT Pi FOR MONDAY’S TRADING ?
i registered for Pi early last month, when I was told that charts, NEST PLUS are not available for news customers and since then have been waiting for my beta registration or pi release. Somewhere, above I read that it won’t be available to all customers.
So, I request you to please clarify on your policy for the new software, because I may recommended few people to register with your brokerage house, and would like to inform them accordingly.
thanks
Will Pi be compatible with Mac OS? , have u finalized on launch week of Pi?
Pi won’t work on MAC. The final beta release should be out from next week.
Hi Nitin ,
Will be automatically get a mail to download the latest version of PI or do we need to reach support for this ?
We will update it on Q and let you all know.
is darvas box method incorporated in the up coming pi software
Yes, Darvas box is available
is pi free to use…………….
For our active clients it will be. What is active, we will let everyone know soon.
Better keep a monthly charge for pi and deduct it against brokerage paid. A active user could become inactive for a few months.
Hopefully terms of usage would be clear. NEST has become a big mess unusual for Thomson Reuters to get their name tarnished
CAN WE EXPECT Pi THIS WEEK ITSELF ?
By this weekend.
Our expectations on PI is too high.Initially it was ABOVE AVERAGE.
Of late ,it touched rock bottom with so many errors/deficiencies.
Comparison of PI with NEST is inevitable.
We expect PI should be beat NEST in all respects.
HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and all members of Zerodha.
Hi today is 1st Jan . zerodha has to release PI today with the fix. No update yet.
Happy new year to everyone. Now we are in the first week of Jan.Can we know when we can expect PI.
Yep, we are hoping in the next 10 days.
1.Earlier PI used to remember the price history.Now whatever the number is kept in BAR HISTORY
it is starting from NEW CANDLE.
2.while charting it frighten me with this message.
UNABLE TO CONNECT TO SERVER.Connecting soon.
Why this message?
Like I have said, we are currently working on the new release and best not to use Pi until we have the new release out, might take u another week.
GIVE ME THE DATE OF LAUNCH OF Pi.
SHOULD WE PAY A FEE FOR USING Pi OR NOT
PLEASE RESPOND
By next weekend. No fee for our active clients.
Hi Nithin,
Saw your video of Zerodha Pi. Really Impressive and tempting.
Curious to know
1. when are you planning to launch it
2. would that be charged?
And a few technical queries as well,
3. Market starts at 9:15 so if I use 1 hr candle chart, then the first candle will close at 10:15 or at 10:00 ?
4. Can we save our studies in charts?
1. Final beta release by next weekend.
2. No for our active clients
3. We are planning this out still
4. No, not as of now.
Hey,
Since past few days I get error this error when I right click on any chart to open – “Unable to connect to data server. Should be soon.” What can be the reason???
Rgds,
Ankit
Ankit, we have stopped supporting the old release, we will have a new release out by next weekend.
Good suggestion by SANDEEP DAS.Please indicate Over-bought/Over-sold area with Green/Red
colours in PI also.
BAR CHART is very simple to implement.Just drawing a line from BASE to Close value.
In nest trader when we use money flow index or William %R ,if it indicates overbought then it goes green and if it indicates oversold then it goes red.Can that be done in pi?
Yes ,william% R is available on Pi.
yes, I know but there is no colour change facility when it goes overbought or oversold zone.it can be done to any oversold over bought indicator in pi .It has already done in nest trader(money flow index or William %R ).
Please introduce BAR CHART as soon as possible.BAR chart as available now is not a BAR chart .It is
OHLC chart.Bar chart is a simple line from base to CLOSE.(Very easy)
This might take a bit longer.
Even NOV & DEC future/options are present.Make JAN as default series ,now.(At present NOV is defined as
default series….? Funny.)
With each version ,we expect a better performance of the software.But ,the present version is not as same
as ,it was in November. Back fill was missing.
When you are logging in the next time, untick on the quick login box. This will make sure that all your previous contracts are removed and the new ones are loaded. We will have the new release on 1st Jan for everyone with all the fixes.
Data will be as good as eSignal i.e. instant or is there going to be a delay(like incase of iCharts/Sharekhan, etc)
Data is likely to be saved on our computer or everything will come directly from your server?
can you add Percentage Price Oscillator and kdj in pi final version ?
Sandeep, we are presently working on having everything that is already available working without any bugs. Once we do that, and have the release, we can add new indicators in due course of time.
Absence of BACK-FILL in PI ,is a BIG ,drawback.
Can you send an email to [email protected], he will give you a patch that will fix it temporarily. We will have a new release in the next two weeks.
Hi Nithin,
Do you provide any software for offline Technical Analysis with EOD data?
Once Pi is out by Jan 1st week, you can use it offline as well. We will also have EOD data available on it by then.
Copy entire Market to excel (Link to excel) to a file is there???
It is a must.If it is there already,please guide me.
Not as of now, but we will add this in the future.
do u guys have any plans for apple MAC users ?i mean the trading platform???
Not for Pi (atleast for now). But we are building our webapp – Kite, that will work on MAC as well.
Mr. Nithin, When will your server issues be addressed? Facing consistent problems in executing orders in ZT. Made losses in past 1 week since the order did not execute on time and went into “pending order validation mode” when tried to execute MIS order at market price.
Are you going to compensate for the losses or continue sending apology letters while we make losses ?
Rahul, getting someone to call you, we haven’t received any complaint as such. One of the issues is with the new NEST charts, which seems to be causing the systems to crash. The default chart was 22 days, and we have just reduced to 5, so ideally freezing because of charts also shouldn’t happen. Do show the guy who is calling what you are facing. 🙂
Nithinj, this has nothing to do with NEST charts. I don’t even use NEST charts. When I faced the problems this week I called up your support and talked to 3 different people, they said “the problem is in the servers and we are resolving it”
The problem happens on and off. Earlier there was no such problem. Though I am not facing it now but I don’t know when it will occur next.
Best,
Rahul K.
If it was last week, yeah there were, but shouldn’t happen any more.
Nithinj, Faced the same problem around 4-5 times today. You need to get your server issues cleared off fast.
Description of problem: When I modify an order in order book sometimes (4-5 times today) the status remains in ‘pending order validation’ mode for 5-15 seconds. Never faced the problem a couple of weeks ago. So this is server related at your end.
Best,
Rahul K.
Can you send me an email, [email protected], the next time it happens, I will have it checked immediately. Not happening when I am trying to do this.
Rahul – I have seen this happen to me bunch of times. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Nithin, I have seen this issue before. Has happened to me few times causing orders fills to be messed up due to that delay. I have sent you an email as well.
Thanks
Karthik
Having this checked guys, our tech team is making a few tweaks, can you check on monday and see if it happens.
Hi Nitin,
Will Zerodha Pi work on a Macbook?
Thanks,
Kartik
No Kartik
Waiting for an official launch of Pi terminal …
Nithin Sir,
Unable to open charts. Its displaying message ” Unable to connect to the data server. Should be soon”. Any issues with my connectivity or your server.
Rajesh.
Yes Rajesh, we are currently working on all the issues spotted and releasing Pi 1st week of Jan. Until then, you will have to use NEST.
Hi,
Is it possible to have charts on four separate monitors? The Angel Broking speedpro provides four desktop feature but it is withing the same window.. more like using different tabs in the same browser. So, can we use pi on four screens to see four charts… Somewhat like TD Ameritrade’s thinkorswim platform?
07 Dec 2014 at 06:09 PM
prasad
no answer to my query… pls check it nitin ji…
Prasad, the recent server upgrade caused a bunch of changes, so we will need a few more days before we can finally launch Pi, we are aiming for 1st Jan release.
Thanks Nitin.My best wishes for launching Pi.I will wait for pi final release…One request Ami Broker giving astro tools to analyse market…iam looking for that kind of tool which can be used for deciding trend…even in intraday it was very usefull….right now im working with my own mobile program…but only problem is im not having live data…otherwise i will make intraday astro tool…ithink for semi auto trading we can take astro and teck support by programming…
JPYINR, USDINR Renko 1 hour charts are not coming correctly.
Ravi, we will take 2 or 3 days more to have the data issues on Pi fixed before the next beta release.
Requested for Pi trading software (filled the online form) as well but still no download link!!
Client ID DA2071
Ankur, we are making a few fixes and should have a new release out in the next 3 days. Once we get that out, you will get access to download on Q.
Why my PI is not working .But some of user is using PI. How come this?
Shiv, a small change happened when we did the upgrade. Only clients who are enabled on all exchanges (NSE, BSE, MCX) are able to use Pi as of now.
Pi chart still do not show data for the Dec-8th and Dec-9th.
Yes, we will have that fixed over the weekend.
its common now a days on zerodha .i had huge positions morning
What is happening with Zerodha. There are no price updates on Pi or Nest Trader. Phone call to your support just doesn’t go through. In name of best platform etc. the very basic requirements are not being met.
Between 9.18 to 9.30, one of our lines connecting to the NSE was down. So clients on this line, the orders were not going through. We have backup lines, but it took around 10 to 15 mins to switch.
HI Nitin
The most exiting part of Pi to me is placing the order on chart. Thanks & congrats for the wonderful efforts.
Request you to add Bracket Order & Cover Order in PI. Also, if it is possible to place these orders on chart.
Regards
Vishal
Cover orders are already there, brackets should start soon. Cover and brackets placing from chart will be a little tricky, atleast for now.
Nitin can you please let me know where to get Pi beta.
Pavan, you need to fill up this Survey form. Give it a couple of days, we will be out with the new release of Pi.
is newer version of pi working ?
Kalyan, if you weren’t enabled for all exchanges (NSE, BSE, and MCX), it will probably not be working for you. We will have a new release of Pi soon.
Seems some error in Hourly chart… Attached is chart of Tata Steel.. It shows hourly close at 460 whereas it actually closed @ 435 yesterday… That’s why there is gap down opening shown today… Saw similar error in other stocks too… Happening since latest release of Pi..
Yeah Ankit, a bunch of things changed during the server upgrade over the weekend. We are working on having it all fixed and give a new release asap.
need Pi beta .Please proivde me the beta for testing
For how long frustation will continue..when will mobile app be availabe..what kind of IT team do you have?????
Today has been better Rahul, and we will have a new mobile patch in the evening that should improve the performance on the mobile from tomorrow.
On pi chart, data for Dec-5th is displayed. Yesterday’s data is not shown. (as of now : dec-9th 8:38AM).
Hi Nithin,
It would be great if you get multiple marketwatches on the next release. Thanks.
hi nithin,
updated pi is running smoothly. looks much better.
1. pls add date wise separator lines on chart in new pi update.
2. very frustrating to set column width and column position every time.
Yes, that should be available soon.
This was the position when I logged into PI at 3.15
Yes today we had issues with the upgrade we did over the weekend. Will take us a couple of days before we have the new release.
Back Fill is not there.
Not able to login on Newer version of Pi and also on the web version i.e. trade.zerodha .com
Not able to login PI post updating new version.
Yes, some changes that happened during our upgrade. We will have a new release of Pi, until then you will have to use NEST.
Unable to login since morning on the updated Pi. Says “Remote server returned an error. Error (503) unavailable”.
Yes, some changes that happened during our upgrade. We will have a new release of Pi, until then you will have to use NEST.
Darwas boxes available in VIEW menu of PI.
Hi Nithin,
I downloaded new version of PI. Now i am facing more problem than previous versions..keep on stuck system..My machine is i5….Even login time also taking too much time than previous versions. I already send the mail to IT
Yes, the update we did on our servers changed certain configuration. We will have a new release of PI asap, until then request you to use NEST.
Dear Nithin,
I have used most of the charting software over the years. It seems you opted for modulus kind of charting. I think you should use Spider (IRIS) or Reliable (Falcon) for zerodha charts as both are very good and reputed software in indian charting. and much more stable than modulus charts in all aspects.
Also charting experience is on another level on using both softwares. Hope you have used both products to understand my query.
hanging & not responding while executing orders ( Pi_setup_1.0.0.4(updated) )
Issue in Chart after I tried to reopen it at 10.30.
unable to open pi now…9:45am
im attaching supporting image where false alerts generated
In live trading on friday i used scripted alert.script worked well on 12:55 gave sell signal late 13:12 gave buy signal as per script.after that giving false signals continuously withing minit…something wrong in scripted alert code pls verift and resolve this bug….in the backtesting if i gave 1minut 500 bars script worked well….
In the backtesting also there are bugs like if i gave 500 bars in 1 min chart 12:55 sell signal given.but same thing didnt show while i gave 1500 bars.why that alert missed….its one bug….
2nd bug was i written buy,sell,exit buy,exit sell script….some sell and exit buy same script that means it should show exit but first and then sell….but its skipping exit buy and only showing sell…its another bug i identified i hope these things should be rectified in coming pi update….
in backtesting :one small request i do intra day trade so i think there should be a provision not take carry forward position so there should be a check box to square of existing position…here my aim is to get all intraday alerts…know how the strategy working…and give one time slot after that no fresh entry only exit signal or square of time….
pi has great future it creates wonders in near future. all the best to zerodha and team
Thanks for giving me a chance to test pi.
I cannot use sell only script . if i give sell and sell exit script and buy and buy exit zero . it wonnt work. back test results are not accurate . if i backtest twice same script in same equity or commodity , it will give different results. backtest must be accurate. And i have another suggestion is that when doing backtest , equities or commodities names sholud be auto complete. please add indicator crossover ,like rsi over its moving average
Hello Nithin,
Firstly, I want to appreciate all your and your team’s efforts on Pi. With the successful release of Pi, I truly believe Zerodha can be a game changer in industry.
Can you please briefly list out what all technical indicators Pi will be having in final release.
Thanks
Nishant, there are around 80 indicators right now, listing all of them out, hmm.. let me see. Even with the 80, there are atleast requests for another 40 🙂 , so we will look at adding some of the popular ones like supertrend, ichimoku, and others soon after the final release.
When you add pivots make sure they are like this !!!
Thanks
i am also looking for this model only please include in next release….
Hi Nitin,
Do we have ‘macd BB’ indicator in pi, if not then can we add.
Do give us time till the final release. We will start taking the indicator requests after that.
Hello,
Please see the image , it was taken at 9.51 am, and the chart is hourly hence the chart tooltip should indicate the daily OHLC , at the same time a screen shot of the snapquote was taken. The price of OHLC in the snapquote and the price in the tooltip of charts are different. Kindly look into the same.
Hi
Have been testing PI for couple of days. It seems to be perfect with some minor scope of improvements.
My initial observation are as follow
1. When population charts, Say a 1 min Niftyfut chart for 10,000 candle , only data for around 3000 is populating.
2. Zoom in and Zoom Out experience on charts could be improved if Scroll bar or Scroll button on Mouse is permitted to control it.
3. There is Much more scope for including Key Board Short Cut for charting and otherwise as well.
Thanks for amazing Services. And pi does justify itself as a Avant Garde Trading System.
Cheers!!
Anshu,
1. our data servers are not up still, and hence the issue.
2. Yep on our list.
3. Yes
Hi,
Have been using Pi for a week now. The charting software is OK. I have used a ton of other softwares and still prefer those over Pi. So hoping once Pi gets out of Beta things will be much better.
3 Feedback (Basic level which should be addressed first)
1. Lack of crosshair
2. Scrolling charts left and right is a ‘Nightmare’ because of the slow speed.(How can you guys miss this ? Seriously!)
3. Pricing styles such as Point and Figure, Renko etc. sometimes work and sometimes do not.
4. No pivot points? (India’s most advance charting soft Pi has no pivot points. Seriously? I mean – Seriously?? )
Thanks,
Rahul K.
Rahul, Pi is a trading platform that can also perform charting. Don’t think it will be fair to compare this to only charting platforms, as a trading platform has to perform the primary function first, that is to be able to trade without any issues. We are looking at fixing that first, all that you said are on our list.
Can you email us on [email protected] the next time, you don’t find point and figure or renko not working. It can’t work sometime and stop other time.
Will do Nithin. Also, really appreciate the way you take care to reply to each one of the queries. Cheers and have great weekend!
Hi,
My Feedback for PI
1. Please add crosshair feature on chart,
2. on trade from the chart feature, once order executed please show execution value on chart and also allow to change order by dragging rather than “cancel all order” and again placing
3. all the trendline and marking on chart gets deleted once to logout and need to draw again, cant we have then saved on chart for reuse later.
4. Can report from “Q’ be accessible to “PI”
5.chart trading can be improved like in metatrader?
Hi Nithin,
need A big favor from you , is there any way or any video Tool through which i can learn to backtest
pls help
Hello Nitin,
Thank you for the update on Pi….
It is neater and absolutely trade ready for me….
Just two things….
1. Please add the option to set default template.
2. Please let the Order Form (F1 and F2) show the instrument of the chart we are on and not what is selected on the marker watch.
OR
Please add a SL-Limit order to chart trading.
One of the two will definitely help….
Otherwise, Pi performs better and at certain point, chart does freeze. I need to close and reopen the chart and also, if the chart of the same instrument is loaded, the candles are different compared with each other….
Thank You….
Looking forward to the final release…
Hello Nitin,
New tool is awesome. Please consider below , if possible
Snap Quote Screen:
1. shortcut for SnapQuote not works from other tabs
2. Include Total Traded Value Field
3. Please differentiate LTP value field (give different color)
4. Include Total count of Best Buy Quantity and Best Sell Quantity Like ZT
Chart:
5. Include shotcuts like Ctrl+N and Ctrl+X
6. Pivot points
7. Expert Advisors screen takes longer time while loading Pi
my pi is not working
client id rj0733
can u send an email to [email protected]
sir
some impotent points
in “chart tools”
1 > trend line should extend right side of the chart
2 > there is no option for CHANNEL LINEs
3 > user should be able to add some more Fibonacci levels
Hello Nitin,
I was using Darvas Boxes effectively in the old chart system. Now, you have deleted “Darvas Box” from the system at all after new charts have been introduced. Hope you have this indicator in Pi.
If not, please add.
I have yet to get an access to Pi. Submitted the form today. Hope to get it asap.
RC18
Yep, available on Pi.
Adv : of PI over nest
Trading from charts.
…………..
weak charting and slow compared to nest, Not good for day traders
after checking few PI release….mandate improvements needed
…………….
Improvement suggestion
……………………………………….
a) charting needs to be improved and fast as data is coming slow and incorrect, can falter the orders.
b) stable drawing tools needed with selective option keep or apply the setiings to all charts.
c) Autotrading option be it semi autotrade with very less slippage. as now trading from chart and autotrading is freely available on net.
d) bracket orders without slits orders. atleast for small retailers or orders say 4/6 nifty or banknifty orders……..
even 2lot order is exceuted in 2 orders……..big no for small retailers
e) supertrend and some customised quant tools for charting and trading.Many indicators are missing, please add
f) options greeks( volat,delta,vega rho calculation on realtime) for advance option strategies
g) realtime risk and money management tools with autosuggestion before submitting the order and afterwards.
h) ASK/BID/LTP and other price options for quickorder…..or seller order should be execute with highest price and buyers with lower price….
please provide all the vectors of scripting……like what is called atp,todays close,day close,weekly close,monthly close…etc
there is more scope for improvement but please make it work at good speed
Hi Nithin
please add” ICHIMOKKU CLOUDS”
thanks
Hallo Nithin
Expert Advisor is Work Grate Job
Pleas Set Same Buy & Sell Scrip Conditions Coding & POP UP Alert
And Group Custom Scann CNX NIFTY / JUN NIFTY/MID/SMALL/NFO For Scanner
It Will Be Donne For Active Trader
Yeah we will create preset watchlists like NIFTY, and etc. On our list of things.
Hi Nithin,
Started using the latest version of Pi. Really missing the bracket Order in it. Right now I am using both Nest Trader and Pi simultaneously because I cannot trade without BO. Try to add BO facility to Pi ASAP or at least allow to log in both at a time until the feature is added.
Thanks,
Akki
I missed some points like we cant see the alerts gave by Expert Advisor script, it would be a better option to add the back and forward options in the Expert Advisor pop up window to navigate between the current and previous alerts. I think it shouldn’t make a huge difficulty to add this option. Please try to do this. Only if we know whats the exact alert we got, we can take some informed action.
Hope you will take care of this.
Thanks,
Akki
Yep on our list of things.
BO should hopefully be up soon.
In general we can place CO(COVER ORDER) entry only by Market order, But I wanted to place CO entry by SL trigger? is it possible in PI, or will it be available in Future?
This is how cover orders have been approved by the exchange. So it will take a while before you can get entry by SL.
I spoke to mr.siva and thanks to quick response. But Nithin, even today i tried to trade with expert advisors and scripted alerts. They disappear in less then 2 sec and it is not possible to use them. Can u atleast fix this issue so that we can make a minimal use of pi.
In scripted alerts as long as there is no price offset, majority of our trades are not executed as the price drifts away, kindly look in to these two issues at the earliest.
Latest version 1.0.0.4 is not logging in
Yes this will be fixed soon, we are in the midst of a major upgrade in our infra, so we are all held up with that till next week. If the latest version is not logging in, can you send an email to [email protected] and [email protected]
first some bars were missing on the chart . then the data is not correct , i compared it with nseindia.com
few other stocks i checked . m getting wrong data . see the pic
Check this Satya :
it should be as close as possible to the nse data. or we can’t be confident about the expert adviser or automated system .
OHLC + V +OI .. these are basic data .
good points Satya.
Nithin – it would be great if you could share metrics with respect to the following:
(i) I am sure you are striving for order filling accuracy rates. Any data you may have with respect to this? [getting bad fills on my market orders based on the snapquotes]
(ii) speed of execution
Will share this soon.
Satya, what I have answered on that link is that, you will not be able to find an exact match between any two charts. You can take TAME, AMI, or whatever.
yah sir , that i fully agree , no data will be fully accurate or match with NSE/BSE , and in fact that(quality of data) is the main headache of every blackbox(algo) designer. …
you are doing a great job, taking fit back from user and also answering them.
thanks @Karthik
Hi Nithin
1. Indicators are still using single color. It would be good idea if they have different colors.
2. Also once indicators are added there is no way to remove them
Color change is available and to remove indicator, left click on it once its selected right click you will get options edit series ,delete series.
Yep, on our list. You can remove indicators, but yeah indicators like bollinger bands which has multiple lines is not happening. Will be fixed soon.
Hi Nithin,
Using Pi for a few days now and thanks for such an initiative. There was auto support and resistance option in Nest plus but that is missing in Pi. Also add DeM (DeMarker Indicator) as well as Fibonacci expansion option if possible. Please add level separators in RSI and other oscillators. (30, 50, and 70) or customization would be more helpful.
Yep on our list of things to do.
First of all…thanks for resolving the issue of CDS prices coming upto 3 decimals only. Now the prices are coming till 4 decimal places. But still awaiting the implementation of the other issues i raised (See above)
Now this issue while placing order. I have USDINR and NF on my marketwatch. I was on the NF chart and wanted to place order for selling NF. On pressing F2, the CDE sell window appeared not the NSE. Even when I selected the Sell option from the menu, I got the CDE sell window. The reason for this is that on the market watch, I had the USDINR row selected. When I changed the selection to NF, the appropriate window came up. The F1 and F2 button needs to be context sensitive. If I am on NF chart, I should get the NSE order window and if I am on USDINR chart, I should get the CDE window.
Yep, it is on our to do list, but a little tricky to incorporate.
can you put the grid line where the day starts
let us add levels to oscillators
@Admin plz make separate thread for v1.0.0.4.. Now this page became too slow with all 1187+ comments and most of them are with images.. 🙁
Loading this msg board takes lots of time . See if you can do something about this (page wise loading etc instead of one single page of 1100+ msgs).
Hey,
Margin available post squaring off short options position is not getting changed real time… If we press Refresh button available on Cash Margin, error shown in screenshot pops up…
CHeck this.
Couldn’t understand your response…
🙂 too many things happening around me. I actually meant to say check this to our tech guy. Btw, this can happen if you are logged out of Pi, maybe you had logged into NEST also at the same time?
I can understand.. 🙂 Atleast 100 comments per day and you personally responding to all is really appreciable…
Haven’t logged in NEST since installation of PI.. If I log out and login again in Pi, margin reflects correctly but if any position is squared off, it does not change real time..
Checking this
Two suggestions-
In market watch when we add any new scrip it goes to the bottom of the list. Can’t it be added below the currently selected row.
Also can we have the color of window which opens on right click to be different from the main window (market watch) color.
Hi,
Can you mention what all has changed with the new update.
In case there is nothing significant , you can just state technical bugs corrected.
It will be helpful to use/test Pi better once we are aware what all is working now.
Is the scanner working now. Are the data servers up & running. did you add crosshair and so on.
This is a technical update. There might be another one that you will have to do by this weekend as we are completely revamping the infra to something which is 3x more powerful this weekend.
Nithin,
F& O still displays Nov-futures
Like
27Nov2014 – ABIRLANUVO14NOVFUT
The list display, Nov, Dec & Jan series instead of Dec, Jan & Feb series.
check it.
Suresh, when you logging in, untick on the quick login for once. It will remove all the old contracts and add the new ones. It might take a few minutes though.
Thanks, I thought so and tried it. It is ok. Actually I came back here to let you know that it is ok and saw you msg.
Hi Nithin,
1) Please enable shortcuts for BUY/SELL from numeric keypad +/-
2) Enable Lock Application option.
3)Changes made in chart view settings like color, scale,grids, panel sep, 3D doesn’t reflected on all open charts but only to the selected chart.
Thanks
Around 10.17 a,m I logged into this new beta version …. looks little faster 🙂 (thank u guys 🙂 ) ….. and in chart I found only minute and hourly charts …… after several attempts I logged into the system … and i clicked on 1 min nifty chart … have a look @ it ……
Unable to connect after downloading the 1.0.0.4 version …. please provide us the change log ……
Remove / disable (Unchecked) quick Login and try to log again. it happened me too.. after disabling quick login option i got access 🙂
Hi Nithin,
I think the watch list of ZT, web trader and PI will not sync. if i add a script in web trader its not available in PI and also in PI I can still see NOV series option. pic attached. can you please get it checked.
Vinay, if you untick on quick login and login, the new contracts will get downloaded, this will also remove the old ones.
I have one req.plz update resistance & support level in PI
cnxinfra and cnxpse is not working
please break this comment sheet view in pages , it take much time to load , still it has to go long way to final release and afer that .
1) qu) charts not generating enough data in any segment to backtest or plotting higher moving averages , in commodities gettting only one day data
ans) our data server is not working fully . …………; 50 days are passed since beta release, and you must be working on data server atleast 100-120 days back , then please tell us ,>>>>>>> why it is not working after 150 days ?
2) qu) navigation to chart is little difficult, zoom in -out through icons , no scroll bars present, no cross hair.
ans) these are in our list to do ,and included after final release,…………………………..; zoom in-out and cross hair are the basic necessity of any chart whether they are professional or basic chart, you are claming PI as 2020 but elemintry thing are not present, >>>>>>>> suggestion)> please make zoom in-out with + – buttons through key board and roller button through mouse. and crosshair with option to view/hide chart info , and enable these things before final release(without these thing your software looks like a child talking in english but do not know alphabets)
3) no work has been done on the ways of saving market watch ,charts , column arrangement, column width arrangement, >>>>>>>>>suggestion ) > there should be a default template for charts to open with indicators what we applied last time on it , arrangement of column ,column width should be open as last used else there should be an option to save last saved layout for every thin in pi
4) why it is necessary to view volume on chart every time ? why don’t you include option to remove volume from charts?
5) some time charts and data misguide price and some time show delayed data, this kind of function may produce much much big problem (money wise) for active intraday trader
I just installed the latest Pi Version. Working good for me
seriosly there something wrong with latest PI release……
i installed /unistalled couple of times but its like only the software wecome screen for entire day……i am yet to trade with pi…..its not opening up…….i am typing this blindly as your welcome screen stays on top…….
Can you please send a mail to us [email protected]
hi nithin… unable to open pi for the last 2 days. it says the program is not responding. too buggy nithin. today i’ve downloaded the latest version but the same problem persists. totally frustrating, please help. i dunno if i’m the only one with this problem. my id is RV1365.
Can you please send a mail to us [email protected]
Vijay, send an email to [email protected]. He will check this out.
Hi, Nithin,
Is there any plan to activate MCX when final release is out. Or we have wait longer for that?
Probably just a few more days.
Hi Nithin,
I would like to test Pi however could not find a download link on your Pi page. Could you please direct me to the download link?
Also can Install both Pi & NEST on the same computer at the same time (ofcourse I will only run any one at a time)?
Thanks
Sukesh
Yes you can use both NEST and Pi at same time (yep run one at a time), send a request to [email protected]
Hi Nitin,
There is no latest version on my Q. Pls update on my ID DF 0036.
Pi looks really great. Thanks for your sincere attempts for the betterment of traders.
A few things we need in pi..
1. Pi should open with the columns, indicators or study lines plotted on the chart until I remove or change them manually.
2. The scrolling or zooming chart is a little difficult. pls have a look on the economic times chart.
3. Scanning , backtesting , expert advisers need to be made easy. Explain how to use them.
4. Pls add super trend, ADX indicators.
5. Fib Extension and Pivot points is very much required.
6. Pls add Bracket orders and VTD (valid till date) orders.
These will be enough things required for me.
Thanks and regards,
Fazlur Rehman.
Yep, on our list of things to do.
One of my friends (please visit traderji) entered into both PI and ZT simultaneously.
It is a good idea, if you allow login into 2 instances.This is because ,PI has some POSITIVE
aspects and ZT has some.Let USERs choose both for sometime now ,until before the FINAL
release of PI.
VRR, this is possible only for now. But we will pull it off before the final release.
where can i see the data table
I have been using pi since the last two days. Although the software looks great and it is a decent begining.It requires a lot more time even for the basic necessities:
1. All the software is about technical analysis. The alerts in scripted alert or the expert advisor stay only for 2-3 sec. It doesnt even give us time to think. There is no option to look back at the alerts of expert advisor once they disappear. For scripted alerts we can see back the alerts but that doesnt include the price. It only shows the time of alert and whether it was buy or sell.
2. If two expert alerts pop up at the same time or quickly one after another, there is no way to look at the alert back. Even a single alert missed makes a lot of difference.
3. In algoz, when we go live , we had an option of price offset which ensured that the order was executed even if the price drifts by the offset. In pi, as there is no offset, majority of my orders are not executed as the price drifts.
4. Scanner, i dont know how it works, i tried different settings but it doesnot work at all. Help nor your video gives any insight in to it.
5. Practically, scripted alert nor the expert advisor nor the scanner were usefull,
Probably they require a lot of work before they can be used for trading.
Nithin this is a very humble request. Although you are putting a lot of efforts for getting a state of art trading platform, in the mean time it is very frustrating for many of us. Trading involves money and it means a lot. Is it nor possible to restore algoz until pi is ready for its final release with all the bugs fixed. I was not able to trade since the last three days and probably i will not be able to trade for the next few weeks. Kindly consider the request and restore back algoz until pi is fully ready
Kalyan, unfortunately our vendors Omnesys have stopped supporting algoZ/pulse. We will look at having all your issues fixed on Pi asap. I am keeping Siva in the loop and sending you an email, make sure to let him know any wish that you have on this.
hello sir
this is my first day with Pi. here some things i think is impotent for a charting platform
1 > i should should be able to see , OHLC & vol of any prior bar,
2 > i should be able to flip the security and time frame . on the same chart .
3 > i should be able to plot and REMOVE any indicator steady , on and from any chart . including volume.
4 > if do some chart steady one the chart it should stay , like – if i drown lines on the chart , i should be able to see it next time i open the chart , stay until i delete them manually . (it will save a lot of time)
plus , i found this price – volume mismatch for the same ticker (silvermic) .
ok my bad ,
point #1 , is over done, i can see ohlc and v .
Satya, we are working on all of your suggestions.
thank you sir
1. When I am trying to place an order for infy4350CE it says record does not exist.
and there is nothing for strike of 2100 or 2150 in drop down of Infy.
2. Every time I start Pi Nifty Index is missing and I have to add manually.
3. In order window Buttons get overlapped if window size is reduced.PFA
Sandip, getting someone to call and have it checked.
Hi,
I have one request for adding pivot point featue which will be very helpful in intraday trading….i hope it will add in pi soon…..
Thanks
we will add once the final release is out.
Hi Nithin,
when i try to place the order in chart with Heiken Ashi type. PI pop up the message that, only order can be placed in OHL chart. Is it a normal behavior? or can we expect a fix for this.
will have it checked
Thanks Nithin
Hallo Nithin
Scrolling & Zooming Problem on PI And How To Use Scanner on PI
Thank For Your Regards
We will put up how to use scanner soon, but if you give it a shot yourself, you will be able to figure it out. You can use this to act like a guide for your coding queries.
Hi Nithin,
First of all kudos to the team for the new platform.While I believe Zerodha is a much promising team, there’s a long way to go.
I would like to point out some basic issues in the platform that I faced. Request you to kindly look into these rather than enhance features..The user experience of the basic functionality doesnt seem good to me.
1) Takes a lot of time to login..even for the the password box to become active, takes some time..
2) I understand that some background data is being loaded during login, but 7-10 mins is a lot of time for quick login.
Rest assured I have a stable net connection and a good config system. Please improve on this.
Find a way to load incremental data instead of loading entire data each time.
3) Is very slow for even not so intensive,small tasks..such as opening backtest window , clicking on “create scripted alert” etc..causes freeze of around 20-30 secs with “not responding”.
4) The program freezes if I try to switch between tabs(with market watch,backtest,alert tabs open).
Not always,but try clicking on tabs one after other, and eventually get a freeze after not more than 10 clicks.
5) When some background intensive work is being done(such as backtest , chart creation), again switching to other tasks is not possible.
program doesnt respond.
Ideally even if some tasks take time, switching to other tabs/tasks shouldn’t be affected.
Kind of frustrating and makes the software look naive.
THese features form the core of any sofware. Please look into these basic performance issues.
Some feature improvement suggestion:
6) When the charting is done based on backtesting, all the variables get plotted. Have the option to retain/delete the required plots. placing a close button for each would solve the issue.
7) As per ZT, let the user decide which market data he wants to download. For eg if I trade in only FNO I dont need to waste time to download other market data.
Thanks,
Neo
1. Yes will be fixed in next few releases.
2. Yes should be fixed soon, but use quick login option for faster login until then.
3. Shouldn’t happen, can you send an email to [email protected], he will take you on remote and check this out.
4/5/6. Siva will check this out.
7. Yes, other market data is not downloaded. Just the scripmaster, so make sure to use quick login from the next time.
still not able to get the charts properly in Pi……………………Mr Nithin……can someone help me out ?
Send an email to [email protected]
Sir
when the PI sytstem is released
& can i use multiple chart sheet in single window like amibroker ,attach a copy how i get sheets
& in PI system can i get this information about options delta , vegga, gamma ,iv,Change OI in percentage
please clear my doubts
Thank you
can you provide this type chart sheet in single window
No, not like the way it is in Ami. You can use the beta version of it and see it for yourself. Send a request to [email protected]. Option greeks are still not available.
Got this error just now @ 11.37 AM. Also newer version 1.004 not displayed in Q. Client # DV0867
Vishal, I guess you might have logged into NEST or attempted to login twice.
hello,
the problem that i am facing regarding pi charts is not yet resolved.
Regards.
Can you send your contact details to [email protected]
Hi Nithin –
Regarding snapquotes:
(i) not sure if anyone commented on this before. Are you planning to have multiple snapquotes OPEN for multiple stock symbols at the same time? it is beneficial for day traders who are looking at multiple symbols
(ii) It would be helpful to have hot buttons on the snapquotes with standard order size, like – “Buy 1000”, “Sell 1000”, “Sell Short 1000”, and if this hot buttons can be defined some where in the user settings with order size as well as type of order (market or limit).
Thanks and appreciate you helping us with this COM API.
Yeah, makes sense, will add it to our to do list.
The data on the charts is not getting loaded………..not able to trade
Getting someone to call u.
Hey sometimes Pi gets closed and that DDF error pops up when we open Snap Quote by double clicking specifically when we double click twice by mistake… Also, please try and give multiple market watches like NEST as its very easy than to segregate between Portfolio stocks and F&O positions… All getting clustered up is very confusing!!
Multiple marketwatch will take a little longer.
Not an issue as long as its in your ToDo list!! 😉
coal India today price is 355.75 but in charts its shows 392.8
please fix it
Checking this
Hi, Nitish ! I encountered another problem towards the EoD. I could not execute any order, including a market square off order. Pi returned a message ‘Server not ready’.
Thanks
Same here. One both Pi and NEST shows server not ready. Had put bracket order. Don’t know if position squared off or not.
HI Nithin
Few Doubts arised while i started using the pi today .
– Chart does not Give the option to change the time frame in the chart itself like from 1min to 5 min and vice versa
– while starting the chart it starts from that time only it does not show the balance ones for the day ,suppose i started at 12 o clock on a 5 min chart but it starts from 12 o clock only does not show the chart for the previous 3 hours .
– Yes time frames have to be decided while opening the chart, but you can open multiple charts.
– Shouldn’t happen, it should show historical as well. If for example you pull 1000 1 min candles while opening the chart, you will get that much once the chart opened.
Please let us know whether Pi full version will contain MCX too for Commodity Trading?
Not as of now, should be up in a weeks time.
ok Nithin but 1 request make this application awesome means loaded with all functions like trade tiger or angel trade even if it takes sometime
Hi Nithin,
Can we expect Pi before 2015? its really difficult to trade with this new nest charts,pls release Pi asap.
Thanks
RK, Pi is good to trade for both NSE and BSE. There are a bunch of updates we are making to fix the last bunch of small little issues and hopefully should be fixed by end of Dec.
hello Nithin
can you put the grid where the day starts .
hi Nithin
I have received the message version 1.0.0.4 is available. When I downloaded the installed version is 1.0.0.0.
2. Not able to draw support and resistance level.
3. Can we create separate market watch For Equity, For F&O, For Index etc.
4. Short cuts not available to launch indicators (say for example when you type “R” it should go to RSI directly or any other indicator starting with “R”).
Regards
Ganesh M.S
1. The version number is mentioned in the about, under help.
2. You can draw horizontal and vertical lines
3. Not for now.
4. Ah.. will add it on our list of things to do.
Hi Nithin
Thanks for your reply.
1. The version number mentioned under the help is 1.0.0.0. But I received the message saying 1.0.0.4 is released.
2. In the Zerodha trader the system used to give support and resistance level. But in Pi the system is not providing the support and resistance level.
3. Can we watch the market watch and desired chart on the same tab instead the chart and market watch opens in separate tab.
Regards
Ganesh MS
1. You can see the help link, you will see the version number there.
2. Checking this.
3. Yes it is definitely possible, have a look at the video in the blogpost above, it is explained how.
Nitin, I must admit that I am having a horrible time with both Pi and ZT since last few days. The Pi is not opening many times and hanging too often. In the ZT, I am not getting the charts. Tried to call your support few times this morning but nobody attended to the calls. Hope everything is right because for the first time I am seeing a bit of laxity in attending to customer and sorting technology related matters. I hope you can immediately provide Bracket Order facility in Pi. Thank you.
Bimal, the updates that has been made on ZT or NEST is unfortunately something that is not in our control. Our technology vendors Omnesys/Reuters were not able to support the old version of the charts. We are having an issue with our lines, if the line is busy it rings instead of the IVR saying busy. Technicians are working on fixing it right now. About PI, will get someone to call you back, shouldn’t happen.
After 2oClock the chart it not getting updated. PFA
Yes around 2pm, for a bit if you were trying to open any new chart this was coming up.
NO price update in PI?
RR1252
Sir, same problem here too. Unable to login. Screenshot attached.
Yes, there was an issue, must be fixed. You can try now. We are making a bunch of changes before the final release on the back end.
ID RR3123
Unable to log in due to error.
Have been using Pi since last week. I must say that it is a wonderful platform. But this morning, I was not at all able to login. When i tried to login it said “the remote server returned an error. 404 not found”. Kindly look into this.
Same here
Yes, there was an issue, must be fixed. You can try now. We are making a bunch of changes before the final release on the back end.
Will there be a linux version for Zerodha Pi?. Is the Software based on Python language?
No, for now it won’t work on Linux. Pi is on C++
Ok. Can we expect a linux version in the future?
Will take a while though.
You can install using play on linux with .net 4 component installed
Same as the message appeared to karthik when try to login pi.
“Getting an error message this morning on the login screen – “the remote server returned an error (404) Not found”
Getting an error message this morning on the login screen – “the remote server returned an error (404) Not found”. please help.
Yes, there was an issue, must be fixed. You can try now.
I would like to test Pi. Please let me know how can I download this.
Also please let us know whether commodities is supported on Pi or not?
And does Pi will work on APPLE MAC OS as well or not.
Thanks
Commodities is still not supported on Pi, NSE and BSE is, send an email to [email protected] to enable.
Will it be available for MAC OS as well?will tgis be available on MAC OS as well?
No it will be for windows only.
I have no idea why MAC always get left out.But if Pi can’t be run natively can it be run on Parallels or Wine? If Pi is available on WINE in Linux Platform or Emulators on Mac it will be awesome.
Another thing before you release Pi officially I hope Pi is made available for rest of us a week or two beforehand.Familiarity with a trading software is a big concern.Habits takes time to grow.
Pi with Virtual Trading would be ideal for hands on practice.
MAC and Linux is used by so little people, that no one wants to take the effort to support it. We are building a virtual trading environment.
You can run PI in linux using wine, use POL(play on linux) to setup an environment install .net 4.0 component and it works pretty well
Can you explain a bit more , please.
I mean, Which Linux operating system are you using?
What was the version of Wine and POL you used ?
And while installing Pi did you select 32 bit version of windows or 64 bit ?
I finished installing in just wine. After I run pi.exe with Wine , nothing happens.
after that as suggested by you, I installed it using POL. Now getting this error. Kindly see the image and help me . Thanks
Hi
I cant see Nifty Futures Feb2014 contracts and cant able to select them form drop down as well.
Rohan, the next time you login untick the quick login button. It will download all the latest contract files, it is best to do this once after every expiry. We will have a fix for this by the next release.
Hi,
I see this pop up every time i try to close the chart. i feel pop up is not required, if any one needs to save it, can right click n save. it would b easier if we have a short cut to close the tab as “Esc”
Yes, we will have a fix for this soon.
Error
Hi Nithin,’
I notabule to install PI software getting error can you please help me out how to install ?
Can you send an email to [email protected]. Someone will get back to you on this.
How to enable sounds?It is not working from USER SETTING menu.
It should, the sounds you get only when the order gets executed. If you are not hearing even after enabling send an email to [email protected] with your client ID
I created an scripted alert but when i go live a chart is generated and nothing happens. Even the chart is not updating.
eg. Nifty14DecFUT
Buy : crossover(sma(close,5),sma(close,30))
Sell : crossover(sma(close,30),sma(close,5))
Having someone call u to check this Sandeep.
Thanks for the quick reply. Spoke to Siva today. Will give feedback once i have tried on new version. Thanks again.
So many requests 😮 it looks like child is begging “mujhe Dairy Milk Silk wala hi chocolate chahiye woh bhi sirf 5 rs main” 😛
apart from jokes some serious issues on charting is totally ignored by people / beta testers 🙂
1. Where is Chart study remove button? i.e. : When I add RSI / any other indicator on plotted chart am unable to remove it there is no X (Exit/Remove) on Indicator panel… ( u r forcing me/everyone to close current chart and to plot new one.. from where u got this brilliant Idea 😛 it pains us a lot when we forced to close plotted chart)
2. There is something called Changing Time Frames option on charts which one is totally ignored here on Pi…. all other trading / charting software provides this one as basic feature.. which helps us to shift from one selected (pre-occupied) time frame to another.. ( I know u ppl say Open new chart window with required TF.. It wont solve our problem because I/we do open multiple charts for stocks and Index.. 😉 )
3. …………………….
4. ……………………. 5.6.7. check E-mail 😉
Hey Ramdas, have explained on the video in the blogpost above on how to remove chart study. Changing time frame from the chart is presently not possible, you will have to open another chart. Which email was this sent to?
bouncer 🙁
sent again plz check 🙂
Nithin,
I encountered an error.
I had initiated a chart and my net connection got disconnected.
The message panel showed this following msg
[ERROR CODE]=13, msg= message build error.
a few minutes later, the internet was ok. Though the Pi resumed to display data on marketwatch, it is actually in a hung state. I am not able to open any of the other utilities. Now I will have to force close it through “task manager” and again log in.
look into the issue.
please provid me the link for zerodha pi. I have also mailed the request to tsiva@zerodha
Hi Nithin,
Since one month, i have written various mails to it@zerodha, rms team zerodha but i couldnt get the link for pi. From tomorrow algoz is down. I wont be able to trade until i get the link for pi. It is quite frustrating. I even called up zerodha cutomer care on saturday but their mail doesnt contain the link.
Is it not possible to continue algoz until pi is completely functional. Or else for the next 3-4 weeks, it will not be possible for people dependant on alogz and bracket orders to trade. I trade using bracket orders and algoz and both are not available for the next few weeks.
also do provide me the link for algoz
Kalyan, will have this enabled for you immediately.
Hi Nithin, is it possible to show option chain temporarily for a scrip? Maybe just below the watchlist. It would be great if we could place the order from the option chain thereby shown, by just clicking the appropriate element (bid/ask) for a given strike price.
Vishal, we will add this as a feature request after our final release.
hi i want know when pi full working is launching
first time contact zerodha for account opening they tell me pi will launch 1th week of nov but till now nothing happened
i open zerodha account because of pi
please confirm launching date of pi
i dont want to use bata version
Final release will probably take 2 to 3 weeks more.
TWIGGS MONEY FLOW INDEX.. is not working ?
Hi,
Please include Lock Application option like in ZT, which is very important to leave the system for a while
Dear nithin,
I want the awesome oscillator(By Bill Williams) and offset moving average , Awesome oscillator is MACD-histogram(5,5,34) on (high+low)/2. is it possible to get it in pi?
Yep, we can but after our final release
Any update on this?
i am speaking about bracket order and not basket order
Bracket order will be available soon.
I have gone through all the comments above.
1. I have received a mail from zerodha but i am not able to find the link for pi in the “q” back office as described in the mail.
2. It was confusing for me as to ? is basket order available. Is it possible to semiautomate the basket order like the way it was possinle in nest plus using scripts/ strategy.
Kalyan, we are enabling the beta once a week. You should see it soon on Q.
Yes you can semiautomate trades on Pi.
Add more indices.More indices means more closer to reality.
Of course,Link to Excel ,is missing.
Hey,
Is it possible to add Options Volatility Calculator in Pi??? NEST Calculator was not at all functional… Try and give good Volatility Calculator in Pi please!!!
Regards,
Ankit.
Yep on our list of things to do.
Hi,
I tried to plot historical chart in software but i don’t find any option. How I can plot historical chart in it.
Please help
Thanks & Regards,
Sanjay Marathe
Client code :DS1265
Sanjay, we are working on our data servers presently, hence you can’t see daily charts. Will be up soon.
– Splash Screen should not be always on top. It blocks pc while pi loads
– Add Link to Excel
– Ordering
– Cannot change price after ordering from chart
– Allow SL-Limit order from chart. Give option to specify allowed slippage points for SL-limit orders
– Option to set default number of lots
– Option to move Orders using chart to trail SL – Perhaps by drawing B/S symbol and allow moving it.
Confirmation on move, that also allows editing order details
– Charting
– Allow undo of last drawing using cntrl-Z
– Allow Drawing Tools in Toolbar – have to go to menu. Also allow shortcuts
– Option for Small Horizontal Line with only one price instead of start and end prices.
Trend lines show aliasing which can be annoying to correct
Horizontal lines take up entire screen. So i want option for short horizontal lines
– Option to Remove/Add TA dropbox.
– Scroll Bar for faster scrolling
PageUp/PageDown for quick scrolling, End to quickly move to end
– Zoom
Zoom – have a configurable normal zoom setting to quickly go to default zoom
Zoom Selected Area – also trigger this with double click instead of having to select it first after right click
Comlete zoom out and then zoom selected area – candles do not resize to new zoom, zoom out/ zoom in fixes it
– Volume Chart – how to show green/red candles?
– Allow customizing candle colors + tails color
– Nifty Chart + option to view Premium
– Seperator line between days
– Popout Window
Option to show some tabs together in another window ( not just one window ) – can move this to 2nd monitor
Popout window automatically on selectin tab and dragging it outside tab bar
Option to pop-in active window, give option in the popped out window itself
Show drawing tools in popped out window. Otherwise have to select the tab in main window which hinders multi monitor usage
– Fast option to switch TimeFrame as in AB
– Show Candle Details on mouse hover with 1/2s delay or better show them on top, including volume and mouse position
– Option for 1st minute bar similar to icharts – Nest data has more noise
– Allow editing Text symbol
– Save Chart automatically without prompt, use some default place and name for it, load it automatically.
I dont wont to manage chart files / workspace if i only use one workspace
Currently chart is loaded but without drawings
Save drawings for each scrip
I want Pi to be in same state on startup as it was on previous close instead of having to load everything manually
– Option to Save Market Watch automatically, dont prompt every exit
– Bug – View Quicky Order is shown selected in menu after we close it using cross button
– Documentation, Examples for Customization api?
– Improve initial load time
Hey spaceman, will have the bug you pointed fixed. Most of it is on our feature list, we will keep adding after the final release.
Hi Nithin
The Quick limit order is going to pending in some times when i do order place and some times it is gone to market price. so i wish it is continuously go to market price just like MT4 platform. pls modify it
Let me bounce this off with the guys.
Hello Zerodha,
One Generic question: Does Tradescript allow you to also place trades or is it simply a tool to help build new customized scanners and signals? Does it allow for coding to place orders based on pre conditions?
Yep Prashant, it allows you to backtest, run scripted alerts and expert advisors (which can be semi/completely automated). But tradescript is not as advanced as say an AFL (Amibroker formula language).
So it cant place an order based on a condition….say a pivot high/low being taken out
Yep it can place, if you can define what your pivot high/low is. Check this post, has a bunch of strategies coded using tradescript: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/charting-coding-and-backtesting/code-your-strategy-tutorial/code-your-technical-analysis-strategy
Great!…Thats encouraging!….Would you direct me to someone who can help me delve a little deeper into this and check if it can workout for me
Give it a couple of weeks more, we will have a complete section on this on Zconnect itself. Until then you could probably look at the tradescript usermanual which is provided within Pi and also the blogpost I have mentioned.
Can i place MCX order on Pi???
Not as of now, but hopefully very soon.
Anyone having issues in Pi on the “pending orders screen” delayed updates to the pending orders on that screen for some reason?
Hey,
Have one doubt… Why Nifty open price in hourly chart does not match with actual opening rate???
Today Nifty opened @ 8516.80 but hourly chart opening shows at 8583.95… Why is tht so??
Ankit, there was some issue with the data server today, so if you were not logged in when the market opened the ticks would not have been captured.
Hi Nithin, I have been waiting for the launch since a while, can you update the status. And i would like use Pi beta version, can you give me the link to download it ?
Naveen, send a request to [email protected], he will enable the beta. Once enabled you will be able to see the download link on Q.
Nithin, I have sent a request to the mail ID.
Hi Nitin, I too am getting same error as Nachiket.
Hi Nitin, Nachiket,
I solved the problem related to .net framework. I went to C/Users/User/AppData/Local and deleted folders of earlier dates. Now Pi is working fine.
Yes having this checked.
Hi,
I got this error today on the latest version of Pi.
Hey,
I noticed that during post close, security reflects both bid and ask rate… Ideally it should be either be bid or ask but not both… gets confusing as to whether there are post close buyers or sellers…
Ankit, there are certain times when there are both bids and offers in Post market.
Hey Nithin,
Attached are screen shot of post close comparing NEST and Pi..
This is of NEST…
This is of NEST… As it can be seen, there are post close sellers in Reliance but buy Market watch shows both post close buyers and sellers…
Hi Nitin!
following are the few feedback and experience on latest PI release.
Happened while playing with charts / reporting /backtesting…today while placing order…hence did not place…
ie
whatever i do, if in any case it went to NOT responding mode…it never comes up,always had to manually restart. Believe me it goes to Not responding zone out of blue.
It still Slow, compared to nest trader…..my amibroker is displaying quicker using nest traders data.
Please add more price element apart from BID / ASK on quick order.
Quick method for modifying or cancelling the order.
Please allow the use of autotrading API(excel) for quick order placement.
thanks for reading and replying to feedbacks
Thanks Raj, getting someone to call you back. Once our data servers are up, it should ideally be faster than any other platform out there, Hopefully 🙂
Hi Nithin,
Can you please help me, why am i not able to see Day chart option in the drop down?
Thanks,
Mahesh
Our data servers are still not completely functional, you will see it soon.
I understand CQG data servers use only 10% of their capacity. This is deliberate so that during times of huge volatility there are no problems for the end user. Expensive perhaps but an example worth trying out?
We are currently in the process of transitioning, so we have factored in for the possible scale.
Hi Nithin,
Thanks to our IT team, they helped me install Pi today. I just wanted to check by when will you be creating a video about how to use all the functionalities of Pi… i know there is just one on YouTube.. but thats just an overview… i would look forward for the below ones 🙂
1) Detailed about charting
2) FAQ video
Thanks,
Mahesh
Coming soon, 🙂 an entire section for Pi on Zconnect.
Another issue : Price is being displayed only upto 3 decimal points for Currency Futures. It should be upto 4 places. This is true for the chart as well as the OHLC data table. I have sent a mail to support@zerodha about the same.
Yes it is fixed, you will see on the next release.
Can someone please help me, when I tried to logging into Pi this morning, getting a error message “Root element is missing” on the login screen. I tried to uninstall and reinstall Pi. It is not working.
Thanks
Karthik, when our BOD (beginning of the day process) is running, you will not be able to login for a bit. I guess you tried at that time.
Karthik, you must have tried in the morning when we would have been running our back end process.
Nithin I am currently using the latest version I guess ….. for confirmation I am attaching the screenshot ….. 🙂 🙂 If you look at the screenshot you can see in Pi it is showing the version 1.0.0.0 ! I called your support team … the person with I was speaking told me that it is because I am using a slow internet connection but I am using a 4 mbps bsnl broadband connection ….. :p I am constantly getting 2 – 3.5 mbps …. please sort out the data server problem …. Dont release the final version of Pi untill unless everything gets sort out ….. Because I using real money …. slippage is there ….. make it light so it consume less data and Cpu usage ….. Give us trend line , indicators as I had mentioned above … I love the innovative functions of Pi …. look is refreshing …. enable double click zoom …. give little bit head and sideways space so I can draw my necessary calculations … best of luck 🙂 thanks for your reply ….. One day Pi will surpass its other predecessors …. 🙂 …. Oh one more thing give me option calculator ,, option strategy ,, other features of Nest plugin.. ASAP ….. 🙂
Ethan, though the installation file is 1.0.0.3 the version on Pi says 1.0.0.0, that is okay and it is done by intent. Yep, the CPU and data usage will come down as soon as we take our new data servers live.
1. Fully functional scroll bar for charts. Scrolling through mouse wheel is tedious and time consuming. Both horizontal as well as vertical scroll bar required. The scroll buttons on top are a joke currently. I need to click again and again to keep moving. At lease there should be an option to keep scrolling through the chart by keeping the scroll button pressed.
2. Vertical lines to indicate start of a new trading session.
3. Y values for the horizontal line should be displayed on the line. Similarly I should be able to enter the Y Value of the horizontal line to place the line exactly where I want.
4. Crosshair.
5. Candle data (OHLC) table on mouse over of the candle. Also, remove the script name from the O, H, L and C rows currently showing in the data table. It makes reading the data quickly difficult. Keep the script name at the top of the data table.
6. Sorting by various columns in order book / trade book.
7. The Chart tools should be available as icons for quick selection.
Also can you please maintain a document where in you can list the most common issues raised by the traders with a brief status on their resolution. This will prevent folks from repeating the same issues as well as to keep up to date with whats the status of resolution.
You can use left and right arrows on your keyboard to move left and right. The other things you have mentioned are on our list of features to be added. Yep, along with the next release, we will put up a complete section for Pi on Zconnect.
Even with the keyboard, scrolling is painfully slow. I need to be able to quickly move through different areas of the chart by scrolling and / or zooming. Scroll bars would be helpful. Zoom function also needs to be improved.
Noted. Until then, right click on the chart and say zoom out to see the entire plot. Right click and say zoom selected area to choose the area of your choice.
Sir,
Previously on Zerodha trader, we had option of Data table. with that we could get data without downloading it as Excel. now every time need to download as full file to check datas in another computation. so many files gets open and some time Excel crash. is such data table option available in PI? pl do confirm.
We will have it in the future release. Not available currently.
HI nithin,
There is some difference between the charts when the data is coming real time and the historical charts from market watch window .
Attaching the snapshot .
Regards
HI ,
This one opened newly from market watch window.
Regards,
Does it work on HP stream 14 ? Had anybody tried?
Hi Nithin,
First of all, Congrats for being the best stock broker for 2014. I am trading with Zerodha since early, 2011.
I find you guys really doing some innovation in Indian markets. I must admit, I love the Varsity(looking forward for the remaining topics), Q and PI. You being CEO, answering all the queries in person shows your passion for trading,business and also friendliness to customers, which is the best part I find with Zerodha. I know once a business starts growing there are many people who want to bring them down but nowever days I see complaints with Zerodha Trader and customer service increasing in forums like Traderji. I hope you people remain grounded and really wish you don’t lose the name you have created.
Coming to the real feedback, I see you have a great business plan, super support staff but the only thing missing with you guys was the charting tool and I hope PI is gonna fulfill this for you. I started using PI today, it is a “great platform in making”. I understand it would take some time to fix the issues and add new features. Here are some issues I noticed, Please go through them :
1) First of all I am using Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Dell Inspiron PC. I got two application errors while using PI. I attached the screenshots for them.
2) I didn’t find the Bracket order option with this software, it would be great if you allow BO in PI, without which its really difficult to use PI instead of Trader.
3) SuperTrend Indicator was missing(or atleast I wasn’t able to find it).
4) Didn’t find the Top Gainers/Losers list.
5) Nice if you could add support and resistance in charts like ShareKhan TradeTiger software.
6) Unable to drag the chart using mouse, movement of the chart is slow and also the same with Zoom in & Out of Charts.
7) Option to add Vertical line missing.
8) Unable to remove the added Technical Indicators.
9) It would be great if you offer some default tradescripts for normal traders(it will be helpful until we read the scrip guide you provided).
10) It would be great if you can process the news little faster and also if possible, add pop-up option for the latest news instead of seperate tab for NEWS.
11) Live updates of important events like RBI rate cuts, NSE or SEBI changes or any insider trading(I know about your website for information on insider trading but it is helpful for investors not traders as the details are not live). “If possible any FII or DII buying information, it would give a great edge for traders@ Zerodha using this platform” and also would help you increase your client base.
12) Can I use Expert adviser script with SuperTrend indicator in PI now(coz supertrend is not available in PI).
13) Also it would be great if you can add a tool which can show all the stocks/indices breaking intraday highs/lows. This tool is available in TradeTiger software(if possible please refer to it once, it is really great tool) any is very helpful for intraday traders.
Finally, sorry if I really pissed you with such a lengthy passage. Don’t know how I am able to write it. Also would add, as most of the people or regular users of Zerodha are Intraday traders , so I request you to please focus more on tools that would help Intraday traders.
Thanks,
Akki
Wasn’t able to attach this image in the last post, so adding it here.
First image is of Unhandled exception error and this image is of DDF Data stopped working.
BTW, I am using the latest version of PI, downloaded today, it is of 23, Nov release I believe.
Thanks,
Akki
Hey Akki, most of what you are asking for is new feature requests. Presently we are working on releasing Pi with all the features already available bug free. We will add features as we go on. Vertical line is there, bracket order is coming soon. We will soon start taking queries on tradescript, until then check this post has many coding queries answered. Removing an indicator is little tricky, look at the video for the same. Other things, will come after the final release. Will check on the application errors immediately, probably someone from our team will send you an email.
Hey Nithin, yes many of them are suggestions which are important for Intraday traders like me but SuperTrend is an important indicator, if possible try to add it in the initial release. Also, you didn’t answer my question, whether I can use SuperTrend in the Expert Advisor script now, say I already have a script with that indicator??? BTW, I checked the post about coding. I don’t want it coded by you or someone but just want to check if I can use the indicator in the script(because it is not available in the indicators list). Also, I didn’t get any mail from your team yet.
I already mentioned it might take sometime for you to add all this features into the software. I didn’t ask for everything in the initial release(as it would make the process more time taking). I understand it takes so much of effort to develop and debug such a software application. I appreciate your work. I am not asking for an overnight miracles, just a small suggestion.
I request you to please keep all my suggestions in view and try to add them in the updates for PI.
Thanks,
Akki
Yes, you can Akki, code the supertrend in the expert advisor. Your requests are on my to do list.
Sir where can i find the expert advisor code for supertrend
Can’t be coded on EA.
Nitin, I had very bad today with both Zerodha trader as well as Pi. The updated Pi was not proceeding beyond ‘Loading Expert Advisors…’. I am not being able to start Zerodha Pi. Once it opened. But after some 30 minutes or so. Then it hanged after some time. And the charts are not working in ZT. I made four calls to your support team but found no solution to the problem. It was my first bad experience with your team Nitin. It was so unlike Zerodha. What happened??
Bimal, our technology vendors Omnesys have been facing issue with charts. They are replacing the charts on ZT very soon. About Pi, when you are logging in, use the quick login option. It will log you in immediately. We will by the final release make sure that login happens a lot more faster.
Hi,
I don’t know if this is a bug or problem with your data servers but the data in charts is not adjusted. Today was expiry for Currency Contracts, so up to 12.15 the charts should display the data of Nov futures and 12.16 onwards of Dec futures. Screenshot attached.
Nachiket, we can’t show continuous future charts on the trading platform, atleast for now. It is quite tricky on a trading platform and not like the way it is on an amibroker. You will have to open a separate Dec chart.
Well I hope you’ll pull it off.
I got this DDF dara error when i tried to buy a order …. 3 – 4 times ….
If I get disconnected from internet , when I get back again I got a huge gap between the candles , I pressed reconcile still no luck .. I am reiterating again Pi consumes a lot of data unlike ZT …. I am little hopeful .. when You said data server will be faster than ZT .. looking forward to it … Please make it light . THOUGH LOOKWISE PI LOOKS GREAT ….. PLEASE ADD DMI, MARKET BREADTH (ADX) indicators etc …. make light so we can use all the indicators based on my choice …. they should work smoothly ….. take your time ….. as I am a scalper …. I mainly depends on indicators for my trading strategies ….. 🙂
Ethan, will get someone to call you back. Yes our data servers should make the ticks and everything else faster. We will add new indicators after the final release.
Ethan, if you are still seeing the reconcile button on Pi, I guess you are using the older version. Can you uninstall this, and download the latest installation from Q. This ddf error thing has been sorted.
It is for the feedback to Zerodha on Pi software which has been installed finally yesterday on my system after a cumbersome process I have been went through because of technical glitch at your end wherein I was not able to install pi on my system after the link was activated but with the help of dedicated team @ zerodha it is finally installed but it is not the 1.0.0.3 version for which the link was given initially. it is 1.0.0.0 version which is the old one I guess. I’ll appreciate If you can provide me with the latest updated version. Meanwhile Below is the feedback for the version 1.0.0.0 which I checked suferficially.
Pi it seems to be amazing software with some new add on features never tried before, but lacks some basic required things like
crosshair feature to see the charts levels,
when we move cursor we are unable to see the particular candle levels such as open, close, high low.
Though we can see through trend line but option to automatically set support and resistance levels is missing.
Daily and weekly chart is missing
option greeks calculator is missing.
Pi seems to be a great and a next generation software if it possess basic required features before advanced level add ons. As per now it disappoints and not as expected.
Kindly fix the basic required features for both fundamental and technical traders.
All the best!
Thanks & Regards
Bharat
Bharat,
Installation file says 1.0.0.3, but the actual version says 1.0.0.0, so don’t worry about that.
Crosshair will take a bit. Left click and hover your cursor on the candle to see the OHLC. Daily and weekly will be up soon as our data servers are still not in place. Option greeks will take a bit.
Hallo Nithin Pleas Set POP UP & Sound Alert For PI Scanner And Build Scanning options For Sector Vice CNX Nifty CNX MID & SMALL CAP & CNX 500 & ALL Stocks That’s Better Fore Swing Trading
hellow Nithin sir
i have just opened account with zerodha , not yet started trading . so i don’t think i am fit for beta test .
so without my hands on Pi, i feel , coding flexibility is the area where developers should concentrate .
if we are walking on the path to automated trading , linux compatibility can be a advantage . it will make the game faster .
thanks
Satya
id-DS4525
Hi nitin, I want to remind you some basic errors..
1. Pls check the price figure position in newly added net change column. Should be at the right end.
2. Candle details is not showing when we put the cursor on a candle.
3. chart must open with the indicators we have set . Very irritating setting indicators again and again for every chart we open.
4. some indicator should move on at the screen when loading something. Every second looks very heavy at dead screen.
5. There is no day ,week or monthly chart. Even hourly chart is not showing 1000candlles.
regards.
1. You can move the column wherever you wish. right click on the column header.
2. You need to left click and then hover over the candle
3. This is a little tricky one, there are people who want every chart to start afresh and others who don’t. The standard practice is to show afresh.
4. didn’t get what you mean.
5. Yes, our data servers will be up soon, and this issue will be sorted.
Nitin
Is it possible to feed data from PI or ZT to amibroker. Need to say Good bye to some of the data providers.
Exchange regulations don’t let us offer this, it would mean killing exchange’s data vending business.
What about the Link to excel feature which is present in all trading terminals ?
Regards
Yep, we will give that soon, link to excel, python, C# and more.
Of 80 indicators or so ,just 40 are very useful.
Do not overload PI with more indicators.
Instead add things like LINE chart ,BAR chart ,AREA chart …….etc.
In USER SETTING in VIEW menu SOUNDS is there.
By CHECKING (enabling) the box ,Sounds are not heard.
With Zerodha Trader it is OK.
Yes , same problem i reported..but no action in new version
Nithin please add simple alert option in future update..Simple alert means…each scrip right mouse we need a option alert… if we want to set any price or volume alert then just pop up message box or make some sound… sound is better..I know current alert option..it is more advance..most of the times it is not needed…..if their is no complicated condition then simple alert is enough
Can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact and a good time to reach you on this.
hi Nithin,
I just got access to Pi, can you please tel me how do i enable data window. when i move the cursor on a candle in candle stick and heikin ashi charts.
regards
Vinay
Left click and hover your mouse over the candle Vinay.
hi Nithin,
Thanks for the reply, One more thing, I generally use F1/F2 button to place order in PI. I have noticed that, the tab sequence is not correct. Could you please get this checked and make the same way as it in ZT. This can be reproduced while placing SL orders.
regards
Vinay
The way it is on ZT is actually not correct, it might get some getting used to this. But once it is, it will be faster than on ZT.
hi Nithin,
could you please tel me, how i can check limits in PI?
regards
Vinay
Positions and then cash positions. Shortcut key is Ctrl+Shift+V
HI NIthin thx for reply..yeah screen shot
Murali, can you email [email protected] with your contact detail and also let us know when this happens.
Nithin,
It takes as much as 20 minutes to load and become fully functional. I hope it is due to your present server setup and shall be resolved when the new system is operational.
However I strongly feel that you should re-look at the program structure, flow chart and operational concept to make it far more efficient.
I have a feeling that you are copying the operational core concepts from Netstrader and adding more utilities to it. If that is so, it may not be good idea.
My internet connection is BSNL – 8MBPS with a consistent 3.5 MBPS speed. If this is having problem with data transfers, If it takes long to load with this connection, you can imagine what would be the state with slower ones.
Just a few thoughts.
The login taking time when quick login not selected, that bit will be fixed soon. It is because our data servers are still not live. By the time we are done, it should be a lot more faster than NEST.
Nithin,
On the chart, you are showing the values of Indicators like “Simple Moving Average(close,100)= xxx.xx You can use the abbreviated form of Indicators as SMA(close,100)=xxx.xx. I used SMA indicators and there is only space for displayng two of the values. If you use the abbreviated form, more of them could be displayed.
Also may I remind about the combined elder ray indicator (Line crossover) and line chart. I was expecting them in the current update.
Yes the abbreviations, we are working on. Line chart and elder ray, are new features, we will have it once after the final release.
How to enable sounds when a trade is executed.
In view menu, there is user settings, click on that. Click on Sound, and click on order events.
Hi Nitin,
I’m a new customer at Zerodha. I have used other brokers for trading. I must tell you that I’m extremely satisfied at this point in time with your services and support.
I started using Pi-beta only from today and I find it extremely refreshing and useful as compared to whatever other brokers offer. Most importantly, additional options like neural network, genetic algo etc.
I used Heikin Ashi in Pi. Since I’m new to coding, it would be helpful if you can provide the script for smoothed Heikin Ashi. Hopefully, I’ll try to learn tradescript and do something good for myself using Pi.
Good luck and keep up the good work!
Shankar
Shankar, we are putting up a module on programming for traders in our education initiative http://zerodha.com/varsity/. You can post any query regarding coding using tradescript on http://tradingqna.com/. Thanks
HI Nitin as of now since its still beta version and a pressure to release to pi as soon as possible at first place its understandable–software is smooth now and bugs were low compared to last one.only thing noticed was when clicked display help then windows asking to close.except that its fine for me.one more thing and basic thing is please make candles small or make head room more for candles..bcoz in trending mkts candles were going to roof top..unable to notice were it is.I do know their is plenty of time in this world to fix them.Take your time.thx man.
Murali, about candles hitting top and bottom, shouldn’t happen, we have that fixed. If you see it the next time, can you take a snapshot and email it to me [email protected]. Where are you clicking on this display help?
Hi,
Can we have the % gain/loss and No. of days( Time of Holding) column in the holdings window.
Yes Saurabh we could add % gain/loss adding to my list, number of days will be tough.
Noticed this in almost all contracts… where details in long drop down bar is incorrect… Also, if possible add decimal before paise i.e. Tata Steel 460 put reflect as 460.00 and not 46000..
Regards,
Ankit.
Thanks Ankit, we will have this fixed asap.
Just for your information, such error comes when we open Snap Quote by double click in Market Watch… Also, sometimes Snap Quote window shows Open Close Low Close instead of Open High Low Close… ATP also does not change real time…
Yep, it is fixed already. You will see it on the next release.
Here is screen shot of Open Close Low Close…
Another such error is attached where its showing Adani Power 17.50 CE whereas its is 45PE…
Hey,
This one error I noticed in snap quote.. The contract details in Put options not reflecting correctly.. Attached is the screenshot.. It is actually 8400 put of December series but details showing 2700 put!!!
Hallo Nithin We Could Not Find User Setting PI Bridge on PI Latest Version & How To Set Alert Script CM/FO/CDSE I Hade Try But only Symbol Name View on There And STK / SMA Crossover on Immediate Candle Thank You
We will share details on the bridge by next release. Symbol name automatically captures which exchange/segment it is.
Hey,
Charts are superb… One request.. Is it possible to add feature like say extend trendline when we join two higher lows or lower highs as the case may be???? also it will be helpful if we get details like OHLC and volumes when we move mouse on respective bars.. I tried but could not get OHLC details of hourly bar…
Rgds,
Ankit.
Will put your trendline as a feature request. Left click and hover over the candle, you can see the OHLC and volume details.
After seeing the latest PI release, I could not understand what charting feature is better than Nest trader, I had lot of expectations on the hype of PI Release. No EOD Charting(DAY Candle) and not able to add EMA’s…etc which is basic need.
A sample document of why, what, how “Expert Advisors” on pi tool, is used for could help everyone here.
Balu, it is still in beta, daily candles will be added soon. Not able to add EMA’s? that is quite simple to add, there are over 80 indicators there. Check out the video I have posted above. We will soon have a section on how to use all the features.
Hi,
Its a revolutionary software. Will you keep it free?
The tradescript language of PI … Is it similar to the scripting language of Nest Plus?
Yes, tradescript it is called.
I am happy to note that PI is being continuously upgraded and updated. I suggest that, whenever you upgrading the version, please let us know the changes made. It helps in testing / using the additional features.
Yes, we will do it from this time onwards.
Hi,
I am getting only Minute and Hourly Charts.
Yeah Chetan, we will add daily charts soon.
I had downloaded the new version and installed it. It worked fine and I logged into it yesterday and today morning. However after 11 am I am not able to log into Pi. It is giving user id or password wrong msg some times. But I have logged using NestTrader.
What could be the problem ?
Can you send an email to [email protected]
Nithin,
I again tried now, thought I should once again before sending that mail, you know what, it worked.
don’t have the slightest idea why it didn’t work in the day time.
🙂
hi
this is the first time i installed ‘PI’.
at first some errors showed up.
then i removed the quick launch. then it worked fine.
installed in less than a minute
adv: 1. trade from chart
2. tabs for screens
3. cash balance
disadv: 1. back ground colour of buy/sell screen too guady/bright: i haven’t searched for any provisions to change the color/brightness for the same.
2. gap in chart of mothersumi in the afternoon
overall, on the face of it, really good.
will get back to u later.
aps
mb:8056433455
Hi,
I am interested in testing the software as well.
I filled in the form today , anything else to do to register?
Regards,
Tarun
Send an email [email protected] also, we have a bunch of people in queue for this, so might take a couple of days.
Thanks nithin.
Login ID : DD0314
Thanks Zerodha for attempting to Provide International Trading Platform.
1) Pl. make all the tools, commands, features from existing ZT and NestPulse
Many things are missing such as, I cannot use +/- Keys to Zoom in/out chart.
2) After Adding and modifying parameters for Applied Indicators and Saving Template, User can not set it as Default, So every chart opens with set template and one need not click on Apply Chart Template for Every chart opened.
3) After Screen, Charts, Market Watch Window are arranged / set, User cannot save Layout and set it Default, So after Logging in One need not to set / arrange everything again and again
4) Saving and Loading Workspace doesn’t work like Layout
Sharekhan’s Trade Tiger has features like Saving Chart Template and set it as Default Template
After arranging Screen / charts, Layout can be saved and set as Default
5) Pl. add Supertrend Indicator, if possible
6) Pl. make all existing keyboard Shortcuts available for Pi also (like Shift + P Opens chart)
Thanks
1. You can use up and down arrow for zoom.
Working on other things.
Hey,
Is it possible to add underlying LTP in FUT window??? Its very handy to know current price specifically in FUTCUR… Will be really helpful if it can be added!!
Regards,
Ankit.
will add this as a feature request.
Hi Nithin ,
I had initially asked two questions in the charting section not Pi .
1. Can we have Tick Charts i.e Bars formed based on no. of trades . Right now we have only time based charts like 1m,5min ,30 min etc
But I saw your response up somewhere that it will take time to incorporate this in Pi .
2. I need to have the Y axis which is Price to be fixed at the interval I set it to be . For ex. for NIFTY i want the Y axis interval to be set at every 10 points and it should not adjust it self and remain fixed .
For IOC i need it to be fixed at 1 point .
Can this be done in Pi ?
Regards,
Nitin
Nitin, for now we are looking at having everything available bug free. But yeah, we will work on new features after that.
Nithin,
After installing new version of Pi. It just waiting for Loading symbols in market watch and and loading experts advisers screen ..forever. please advise ..any thoughts. have mailed to team as well
Sakthi, the first login is taking a little long. Make sure from the second login, you have quick login clicked.
Hi Nithin,
I am using a small laptop and it is taking almost 5 minutes for loading up the Pi. The problem what I am experiencing is not only the delay in loading but also the loading black box which is approximately 60% of the screen is covering the screen and I am not able to do anything other than watching and hoping that it will be over soon. If I switch over to another program, still the black box remains.
Is it a problem only for me? Is there any way to get out of it?
With regards
Suresh
If you are able to see the minimize button,you can click it or you can click on Pi icon on taskbar ,it will hide the splashsceen.
Use quick login option while logging in.
Nithing
It is the welcome screen and it cannot be minimized. In other programs this screen will go to back ground when you try any other programs.
This is like start the Pi and you have to wait till the loading is complete to read the economic times which was opened in a browser.
I hope you got the problem.
Suresh
Yes, we will fix this soon.
pi successfully installed. When I log in, I get a ‘no license’ notice. I have got the license key in Q but the problem is there’s no prompt asking for my license key.
Should be okay now. do check.
Hi Nithin,
While Pi is overall a great platform, I found a few trivial issues that re making life difficult as of now:
1) No Option for Multiple Market watch lists… very important in my opinion for multi asset/multiple style traders like me….
2) No Option to insert blank spaces and arrange scripts within market watch,
3) All calculators and options tools(Black Scholes, Option Chain etc.) present on NEST seem to be
missing on Pi as of now….this is a little bit of a setback.
4) Any plans to add tools for option orders like spread order entry(Verticals, Condors etc)? Manually
entering multi legged option trades has been the bissgest pain point in Indian trading platforms…
5) Lastly, I expected Pi to include all the features NEST had in the first place in addition to advanced charting/back testing tools that you were promising to add. Though the advanced features have been introduced a lot of simple and friendly features from NEST seem to have been deleted. Hope these can be fixed…
Regards
Vinod
1. Will take a bit.
2. To insert a blank space, just hit the enter key.
3. Yes, we will be adding those calculators.
4. Yes, but it will take us a bit. Most of what is approved by the exchanges are not really upto the mark.
hI Nithin, today i cant able to login PI, sunday i placed order (new version).Today I am getting key invalid error message..Any problem from your side??
I appreciate your response
Can you check now, should be okay.
No Fib Extension
No Pivot Point
No Super Trend.
Please add them.
Fazlur, these are new features, we are presently looking at releasing all the already existing features bug free. These things will definitely be added in the future.
Nitin,
Feedback on Pi latest release.
1. When I press Zoom In button its starts zooming from center of the screen as a result latest candle will disappears, again I have to press scroll right button to see latest candle. Is it possible to keep latest candle focused while zooming.?
2. Chart scroll speed is quite slow, is it possible to increase it ?
3. Please give option to remove volume bar on chart.
4. Still no drawing tool bar available
Please do Add
Fib Extension and Ichimoku Hayo Kinko
Yes Fahad, some of what you are asking for are new features. Our first task is to fix all the bugs and have our data servers up. Once the data servers are up, you will not see anymore candle missing issues.
Thanks for all the support….
Just thinking to leave Ami and Ninja so that all work can be done on Pi….dont want to see charts and signals on Ami and then go on Pi/Zerodha Trader and place order….
I want all the features and tools on Pi so that i can say Bye Bye to Ami and Ninja and also Zerodha Trader platform ….
i am very much confident that Pi will do all the jobs of Ami and Ninja….
Till now…i am not curious about final release…because i know its not a Video game that on next release all the bugs will be removed with more stages (lol) 🙂 i know its real time trading platform where real money is involved…so take your time….but do the best of the best…..and confident that Pi will be the new future of Indian Trading Scenario…..
Zerodha + Pi will be the new revolution of Indian trading
on clicking the link of pi in q , nothing is happening , tried on chrome and IE both , but nothing is downloading .
Yes, try around 11.30 am tomm.
Chart Error….some opening candles missing 🙁
Fib Extension not there 🙁
Dragging the line is there 🙂
How to remove volume panel on Chart 🙁
Trailling Stoploss 🙁
Text Box 🙂
Cross Hair Mouse 🙁
Need Coding Help !!!! AFL to Pi Script
Final Feedback : Almost tending towards perfection. Some chart bugs and hope no PADF error.
Happy for Pi new release….Hope to start trading on Pi soon…Keep it up guys…nice work…Add Fib Extension tool also….
Got a mail saying i can download pi from q. But when I click on Pi in Q, I get this url https://q.zerodha.com/dashboard/?next=http%3A%2F%2Fq.zerodha.com%2FPi%2F and nothing happens. Please look into it.
Yes, try around 11.30 am tomm.
hi nitin!
seriously, there is something wrong….it still freezes and now restart costs in bandwidth… i hope in live market charts and other features would work…..
chart data source should have option….like amibroker database , .csv file on hard drive or other storage or imported files…..as each and every time back testing cost in bandwidth……PI still freezes and goes to not responding fade screen…not good for low cost retail traders…..
thanks
The data bit will be sorted soon.
When clicking on PI in Q. Downloading doesn’t starts. Tried in IE, chrome nothing happens.
yeah, check it out tomorrow by around 11.30, we will have it fixed. Some of the people not able to download.
i Downloaded,did fresh installation couple of times as it was downloading some files….but no go…its still does same thing…..ie its quick login option fails and it download everything taking long time to start ….( i closed all the browsers, stopped all internet activity then i tried login for say 3-4 times and it comsumed more than 150mb data)…….
Shouldn’t happen Raj, quick login should work. Can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact details.
It seems there is no daily option in charts. Is that an error or daily/weekly option have actually been removed?
Daily charts were not working in the earlier release, it will be sorted once our new data servers go live.
Hi Nithin
There seems to be an error of some sort with downloading the latest setup file from Q. Download starts but immediately stops with an error message “Compressed folder is invalid.” Please look into it.
The earlier issue is resolved. But a new issue has cropped up i.e. when I proceed to Log-In, Pi does not display the security questions to be answered.
Can you send this to [email protected] with your contact details
Attached is the screenshot.
what are the new changes and features you have added in this new version of Pi? Great work guys keep it up …. make it little light like ZT ….. it consumes most of the bandwidth ….. may something to do with your data servers …. i like the design …. most delightful thing is that we can have as many as indicators ……..
Yes the bandwidth bit will be sorted as soon as we move to our new data servers in the next couple of weeks. We have fixed mainly issues/bugs that were spotted earlier with drawing tools, zoom in/out, with charts going out of range, and etc.
Hi Nithin,
To i received an email from admin team saying, Latest version of Pi is available.
When i click on the Pi symbol the url> https://q.zerodha.com/Pi/ redirects to q.zerodha.com
Can you please help me from where can i download the setup files?
Thanks,
Mahesh
Yes just click on that Pi link you are seeing on Q. You need to download that installation file.
Hi Nithin,
When i click on the Pi Link which has a url> https://q.zerodha.com/Pi/
the url in the address field changes to> https://q.zerodha.com/dashboard/?next=http%3A%2F%2Fq.zerodha.com%2FPi%2F
but no setup file pops up for download.. tried with I.E and Chrome.. still its the same.
Facing the same problem here too. There is no download link available after you login and click on Pi.
Same issue here….Clicking on Pi just redirects to the same page again
Yes, try around 11.30 am tomm.
We will have this fixed tomm morning.
Spelling mistake in tab for daily charts, says “dally”
still waiting for updated new release of PI…..q shows the 3 nov release
It is updated now, do check.
Still Old bug there. Not rectified new version .We cant switch Normal order to after market order when we use F1 and F2..Please check
Yes, you see an after market order option there, but it has been disabled. TO use AMO, use Ctrl+F1 or use drop down orders in the main menu.
Nithin,
Even if I am testing Pi, but i cant able to use scan and alert option..because of lacking help option. I was waited till today your blog post about scanning and alert option..but still it is not out…I appreciate if anybody help so i can test and tell my view..I will send you a mail regarding this matter
We will put it up soon, there are certain bugs in that we are trying to fix first. It is quite easy,if you look at this post on coding using tradescript.
Hi Nitin thank you for u r reply. I tried in my cousin system also displays the same issue for zerodha q. Even i tried in different browser internet explorer as u said the same issue. The actual issue was when i am selecting p/l reports for the current month november its just loading nothing displays. On the other side selecting p\l reports from the beginning ie from september to current month its displays everything. But i need a report for the current month. Do the need full. Thank You. MY ID DO0042
Having this checked.
Hi Nitin,
Next beta version of PI released ? I just logged into Q but still finding same older version mentioned there.
Thanks.
It is available on Q.
Nithin,
is it possible to show the chart on monthly basis like provided by economic times website ?
Yep, we will be able to once we have our data server up and running.
when new release will roll out??……i was told thursday…but i dont see it on my links(quants)..
We will put it out tonight.
Waiting for tonight at night 10:15PM 🙂
Hope i wil get my tools on this release
Fahad, will be up in a bit, we will send an SMS as soon as it is up. 🙂
Is there anything like Nest- Amibroker plugin. I do backtesting and signal generation in Amibroker. Is there a plugin available for PI also
Nest plugin is not great, we have a very nice tool built for this in Pi. Give it a weeks time, we will share it with you.
Hi Nithin, is this plugin tool you are referring to – can this be used for custom built application as well? or is this specific to Amibroker?
It can be used for custom built application as well.
Where can i find documentation for API exposed by PI to integrate with any other custom system for order placement.
We will share this soon.
Will Zerodha Pi works on Notion ink cain 2 in 1 pc cum tablet?
Pls reply…i will buy cain if it works on it
If I’m not mistaken Notion Ink runs on Windows 8.1 so Pi will work on it.
To clarify, it needs to be the desktop operating system, not the mobile operating system of Windows for Pi to work.
Heard that new Pi version is going to be released
1.fIb extension
2. Text box,
3.Dragging of Horizontal line
4.option to add remove Volume panel on Chart
5. Trailing of Stoploss
6.Data server
7. Kindly make Pi for Mac computer also 🙂
One more issue i am getting, when i use any tool for drawing, like fib tool, then pencil appears which means ready to draw…but it disappear in nano seconds….means i have very few seconds left to draw…if i draw at that time…it will work smoothly….now problem is…sometime it shows issue…sometimes it work fine…i thought it was an issue with my mouse…i checked on Ami but there it works fine….
8. Cross hair mouse
I missed this point …
why in pi there is % change of stock but not change .. every time i have to go to other website to check how much it go up or down ..or need a calculate to check how much it up /down. earlier version of zerodha trading software has the option to see % change and change why not pi has it .
Bipin, we hear you. The next release already has this available. You can view the net change column in the next beta release which should be out very soon.
thanks
Hi Nithin,
I need an information. I use to do intraday trade in MCX crude but today i bought 1 lot of crude nov contract with type NRML. I over looked that today is the expiry for that contract. can you please let me know what happens now. Now that contract is not available from tomorrow to place orders. what happens in this scenario.
Regards
Vinay
The crude contract which you mention, if not exited before expiry, would be settled at the DDR (Due Date Rate) which is fixed by the exchange. The expiry settlement mechanism is pretty much similar to F&O.
Hi Nithin,
Can we have pivot points in the chart.
Yeah, we’ve thought about pivot points on Pi charts. We’ll have it rolled out on our next release.
Hi, Nithin,
Please see the following chart to get idea about some easy, simple but helpful tools like cross hair, zoom in-out using scroll button, dragging the chart left & right (or up down) by dragging.
Please see other tools like Scales Properties where we can set Top & Bottom martin in % (say 7%) and Right Margin using black bars (say 8 candles), show/hide left/right axis, we can set our choice as default.
From background properties we can modify cross hair, grid lines also(It’ll be good if we can choose the difference between grids in MetaStock) . There is also Compare / Add symbol to compare two charts together (like Sbi with Bank Nifty/Nifty).
Please, see the Link:-
http://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil-streaming-chart
With all good wishes.
Regards,
H.C.
We’ve seen a few online charting tools like these, but we’re still starting up. Also, our charting platform is also a trading platform which needs to coordinate with the Exchange software which is not really the latest in tech, so there are a lot of limitations for us to develop something like this right now.
Pi is a work in progress.We can not expect it to be like Amibroker,Metastock.It will achieve a lot in helping retail trades in short term if focused on:-
1.Accurate data for the chart with minimal time lag
2.Order from chart(as many types as possible)
3.Order entry be made easy requiring minimal typing and defaults for position size,STL with fixed default %.This will help in speed of entry & less mistakes.
4.Option for a time based stop.
Please focus on these key areas.
thanks
PKJ
good suggestion H.C. Some of charting features appears to be basic to me. Not sure how this would hinder with the exchange platform.
Thanks for site name. Its really helpful.
Is it possible to copy an amibroker AFL to Pi and run the code ?
The syntax is different, so you will have to convert AFL to tradescript to run the code.
Nithin,
I was testing the “Backtest” utility. I think the “Total number of trades” given is wrong. It is not computing those numbers correctly as indicated on the chart.
pls look into it.
Guess Siva already spoke to you.
Nithin,
I find that MACD as well as signal are of same color. I think, the standard is to present them in two different colors, perhaps red & blue.
The new release has that fixed.
Lesson learnt today. This is based on our live manual experience today, In Pi, got screwed on a position.
I had put an original profit target sell order (on my long) but forgot to delete this order when I closed the same position with another new order.
(i) We recommend, when we close an existing position, it should replace an existing pending order for the same position or atleast, pop message asking an “order is pending for this position – do you want to replace/cancel or modify”etc? especially on a volatile stock like SBIN could prove to be costly.
(ii) Also we should be able to close the position from the “Admin position” tab. When I tried to square off, I believe it squares off at market, and does not ask for “Limit orders” correct?
Thanks.
Karthik, this is the normal behavior of every platform. The onus is on you to double check for any pending orders.
There is an option to mention the limit price as well.
Hi Nitin,
I am interested in testing Pi. Your blogpost suggests there is a form to fill somewhere but i couldnt find it. Let me know what needs to be done for me to play around with Pi a bit.
Prashant, click here.
Data usage is high for Pi compared to Nest or Odin.I have just the market watch,not opened any charts or news reader.Any idea why this is so?
Yes Binu, we are working on this.
hi Nitin!
since past few days charts are not working properly…please check the snapshots attached (NIFTY and BANKnifty)
Raj, we have a new release this thursday, all of these are fixed.
Hi,
Can you add the Absolute change column to the market watch. Right Now it seems only % change is available.
Also can you provide the option to choose format options (Color & Type of line) individually for certain indicators with two lines. For ex. The MACD and Signal line in MACD , The %k and % d line in Stochastic.
1. Yep
2. This will take a bit longer.
Hi Nithin,
While opening Pi i am getting this message i can’t login.. what to do?
Try logging in now, it is possible that early in the morning you are not able to, when BOD (beginning of day) process could be running.
I want to beta test pi. im a client
Where can i download it ?
Fill in the survey form, the link for which is given on top of this blogpost, and also send an email to [email protected]. We have a new release of the beta this friday. You will be able to login from then.
Hey Nithin,
Two issues:
1. When I try to open individual chart for Time Frame Daily, it doesn’t get opened either for Nifty or any other individual stock. Waited for like 20 minutes post opening chart but no response at all. Hourly and Minute time frame gets opened though;
2. When I press F11 to open admin position, PI gets hanged and error shown in attached screenshot gets popped up.
Let me know the course of action to be followed.
Ankit, we will have a new beta release in the next couple of days. Can you let us know if the crashing issue still exists after that.
About the daily time frame, the data servers are still not ready for that.
I am getting the same error message few times in a day
Karthik, we have a new release this thursday, most of these should be fixed.
I trade with a minimal set of indicators. Bit I do need the following at the minimum
1. Cross Hair. Tried the left click method. Doesn’t quite work.
2. Ability to draw support/resistance lines properly. The Horizontal line feature does not draw the line at exactly the place where I want it to. And there is no way I can move it or position it at a fixed value.
Another issue. I cannot pull the charts up or down. If the price rises quickly, the candles go out of the top of the chart area. I have to zoom out to view the candles. I cannot pull down the chart.
Crosshair will take some more time, but other bits are already fixed. You can see that in the next release.
Hi Nithin,
The software is user friendly. I notice that it does not take more than 10000 as a lot value.
We have lots of 17000 etc.
Can you please check this.
Checking it.
When will be the final release of Pi will be available for all? Excited to trade on such an awesome platform!!
Also can you add a customizable one click Stoploss percent amount to cover orders.
For example, if I want the stoploss to be at 1%, there should be a setting to save this number. So whenever I execute a trade, the calculated amount should show in the default trade form. And trader doesn’t have to change it every time.
And also it will be helpful if we can predefine the number of shares to trade in cover order.
Should be out in the next few weeks, the beta testing pointed out some issues that we had originally not anticipated. % in cover order is something that needs exchange approval.
Nithin,
You have nicely included CSP() CandleStickPattern recognition (30 aprox). There is also an utility “pattern Recognition” to work with the selected chart. There are few patterns included in that utility.
It would be nice if you can include those (30) candle stick patterns also in that utility particularly the combination of 2 or more candles.
Hey,
Is it possible that market watch gets saved in servers like in NEST so that if we login through another PC we don’t need to add scirps on that particular PC… If possible, do it. It will be of great help…
Thanks,
Ankit
Yes, working on this.
Dear Nitin,
Hi all,
Even though automation is not allowed for retail traders a lot can be done by way of minimizing manual typing for placing orders. Now we need to type,quantity,trigger,cover price etc.If default settings could be provided,then one need not type out these fields for every order.For example one may define default position size like Rs 50,000.So quantity for each order will be 50,000/price.Similarly one may define cover price like 99%*price.This will help avoid errors and facilitate trading.
thanks
PKJ
Yep, we will work on all these bits in the future, but the first thing is to have the final release out. 🙂
Ninja trader……can we expect something like that?
Oh yeah! That would be wonderful!
Ninja trader is an advance charting and scripting interface, Pi will not be able to match it. Pi is a trading platform with advance charting and basic scripting. That is one of the reason why we have build a bridge that can connect Pi to any tool including ninja trader.
Greetings,
1) Many scrips in a single window looks congested and unorganized, please provide Group settings for Market watch like in ZT.
2) After the final release of Pi, does ZT going to discontinued?
1. Yeah, we will work on this after the final release.
2. No, you will have an option to use both Pi and ZT
Nithin,
I noticed another small issue today.
On a chart, I opened the consensus report, and then click on the cancel button. The consensus report popup vanished but the large dial came up on the right side and I saw a flash of progress bar popup too. This is unnecessary since I actually cancelled the utility. These should have been activated ONLY when I press the “Apply” button. This is a mistake and may create other unexpected issues. pls look into it.
Checking this. thanks.
The navigational problems have been fixed but apparently its too tedious now…
Double click and zoom in to particular area is easier like in Nest…. And can you make the scrolling a little more quick. Like 3 or 4 candles sliding.
SL-L order — Please please add it to the chart trading. The chart trading is an awesome tool but without limit order, it becomes really tough.
We need a little more headroom and foot room for the chart. It will be nicer if the candles looked shorter than longer. A wider view.. This will probably be rectified when you add the space above and below the high and low of the chart… there are light transparent cells in the chart. Adding one row of cells above and below will do.
Add default template option for the chart and moveable horizontal line.
Later releases. Please add standard time buttons of 1Min, 3Mins, 5Mins 15Mins and 1 Hour to quickly change the time period of the chart.
Yep, they are all fixed for the next release.
hi nithin… the bars from 9:15 to 9:30 are appearing as a single bar even in 1 min interval setting. check the attached screenshot. this is too confusing when drawing lines for technical analysis.
Yep, the data servers are still not operational, and hence that issue. Will be fixed soon.
Hello Nithin,
Similar to placing order from Pi Chart, why don’t you give an option to place order from Amibroker chart also?
Unlike Amibroker, loading chart from Pi takes lot of time that too while navigating charts of multiple scrips.
Please look into this, it will help many traders like me who use Amibroker for charting.
About the speed of loading on Pi, give it a few more days, that will be fixed by the final release. We also have the bridge to amibroker, where you can connect your strategy to pi, for semi/fully automated trading. Trading from the chart from Ami, is a little tricky, don’t know if that function is available on Ami, will have it checked.
It’s available in AmiBroker. You need broker interface for that.
We could work on this bit, after the final release of pi.
Can someone please tell me why the bid/ask quotes in Market watch different from Snap Quotes?
It shouldn’t, shows the same for me. If you are seeing anything different, can you send a snapshot of the same to [email protected]
Nithin,
1) When I log into Pi by providing the password, answers to question etc, it will exit stating that the password is wrong. But the second time it shall log correctly. I am 100% sure that the password and answers I provide is correct. This happens pretty often.
2) On the chart, to look at the last candles and how the MACD etc are forming, we need to zoom. The days candles shall sometimes exceed the screen limits. Under this situation, (A) the price on the right side does not scroll up or down as we scroll left or right. However the lower panels ,with MACD etc positions correctly. (B) there should be afacility to move the candle up or down to position them as we need along with the indicators like BB etc.
I hope you can incorporate the Elder ray cross over (bull & bear combined shows as two different colored lines )
1. Suresh, this happens if you haven’t logged out of pi correctly. If you haven’t the first time you login, it will ask you to re-login.
2. This is fixed in the next release.
Nithin,
Glad to know that the Elder Ray Indicator is being added
On the login issue, I usually press the “X” button to quit. As an user I wouldn’t know whether this auto-logs out or not, which is what it is supposed to do ideally.
There are procedures which you can add which shall trigger when the quit button is pressed and ensure that the customer is actually logged out.
The issue could be at the database end too. I can understand if I quit suddenly (even by forcibly exiting) or internet getting disconneted etc , the customer might still be shown as logged at your end (database) and will not allow to loggin again. However this is happening even when I log in the morning. There needs to be workaround to ensure that the customer gets logged out if there is not activity from the user. You may get a signal(return) from the M4 if it is still up. If that signal is absent, you can log out the customer.
This is just an idea.
If you use the X button, there should be no issue. The issue with asking password twice would be in case you force close it, or say logged in at a different computer (either nest or pi) when already logged in.
HI team,
I hope this is the right place to write a few suggestions about PI. Zerodha has got put wonderful piece together in PI. But since everyone has different requirement , I am pointing out something that I feel
1. There should be a simpler and quicker way to modify orders. This should be achieved by a keyboard press
2. when placing orders the up and down arrow keys should be used to move the price up / down byy 5 paise
3. Charting though is wonderful , but there should be a method to insert that data into amibroker , since many are used to watching charts in amibroker
Hi Nithin,
I am trading using Pi terminal & using iCharts for charting . I fount that order routing is as fast as nest terminal, may be even better. only problem i found is basic price alert is missing, can this be taken care in next release?
Regards
Naveen
What do you mean by a price alert Naveen, can you explain? Also hopefully, by the time we have the final release, you will use for Pi for charting as well 🙂
I second his opinion on price alerts. For example, I want to get into a trade if Nifty breaks above 8400. I should be able to set an audio alert for Nifty>8400. That way, I don’t have to stare at the charts all the time.
Hi Nithin,
I mean, if i want to buy nifty fut above 8420, i’ll set alert @ 8410 so that whenever price breaches 8410 it has to show popup/sound so i get active to place order.
Regards
Naveen
Ah, we don’t really have that for now. But something we are looking at building.
Hi Nithin, Yes this option is very important..if you send alert to pop up/sound/email then we can get lot of trading opportunity from our watch list..
It is must option for traders
We have scanner, where you can set alert on price, volume or other such things. But that doesn’t have sound though.
I think you have to add price and volume alert….suppose if volume break any particular level then we need alert
please consider this request
Yes,It is very essential to make the PI world class trading terminal.
What about a SMS alert using the SIM in dongle ?
Decosta
Hi Nithin
I am just using Pi-beta version software, during my testing, the following points were got problem.
i) while drawing the trend line in the drawing tool, the lines are not properly marked.
ii) frequently hanging 2-3 minutes
iii) while opening the market, CNX NIFTY 5 mnts chart got opening candle got long spike and in the same charts no volumes are appearing in the bottom.
iv) candle sticks are not properly displaying in 3 mnts Vs 5 mnts charts.
the above can be rectified in your final version of Pi software.
Thanks
Yes Bhanu, the new release will have all of this sorted, should be out early next week.
its dificult to put exact order (SL-M) from chart….as we cant put exact fig…
also missing SL -L order …need to correct data also..missing many bars ..also incorrect data.Todays Nifty low visible in chart its showing 8373 nf low as its on terminal shows as 8372.3…so its sure every bar data is not correct…@ least need some backfill option /refresh option if not auto backfill correct data .
Vijay, can’t really have limit orders on the chart because if an order is partially executed, it cannot really be displayed on the chart. If you want to use limit, I guess best to use your normal order window.
About the data, yes we are working on having it fixed asap.
hi nithin…
after selecting any drawing tools(fibonacci retracements or fans), the marker gets turning back to normal cursor in just a sec or so. so by the time i try to place the marker on the desired bar, it getting turned off. so i’ve to go the insert drawing tolls n repeat the process over n over. please fix this asap. it is too annoying
Yes, working on it in the new release.
Hi Nithin,
Just want to confirm if Smart Order Routing (SOR) is built into Pi for best execution and fills or is it only available for Authorized Persons who perform Algorithmic trading through dealer terminal?
Thanks in advance
No Karthik, not now.
Hi Nitin
Appreciate your efforts to perfect your game.
I have a few suggestions/feedback as below:
1. When a chart is opened I can see see a quick limit order, but I am not able to edit the limit. Instead when i click on the “0.00”, the command for placing the order gets executed and will ask me whether I will place the order at the price “0.00”. Is it supposed to be like that or am I making a mistake?
2. When i move the box for quick limit order, the top of the box goes inside the border of the chart and cannot be moved again. See the image. Can the movement of the box be limited or mouse can be clicked anywhere on the box so that it can be moved?
3. When an indicator is selected, how to deselect the indicator from the chart?
Thanks
1. If the market is open, it should not 0.00, can you double check and let us know if it is showing 0.00 when market is open. Where you are seeing 0.00, you should see the best bid and ask, and limit order placed at the best bid/ask.
2. We will have this fixed, but you can use Ctrl+Q twice to get it back to the original location.
3. It is a little tricky, have explained in the video above.
Hi Nithin
Thanks for your prompt reply.
1, As you said during the market hours it is showing the best bid and ask price.
Regards
Suresh
Missed out one more suggestion,
User defined Time frame for charts is missing. And it should be easy to change time frame . This needs to be incorporated.
Been using Pi for a few days, would like to give a few feed back:
1. The charts plots outside the screen, and we are unable to move the chart vertically to bring the candles in a visible range, this vertical movement of chart is must.
2. The chart badly requires cross hair which is missing.
3. The chart keeps freezing often.
4. Today wanted to place an order at 35/- in Nifty 3800p options , then the price was 31.70 , so placed a limit order at 35 anticipating that when the price reaches 35 it would trigger, unfortunately the order got triggered which normally shouldn’t happen.
5. Normally +key should invoke the buy window like wise -key sell window, this is missing in Pi.
6. Plotting the Finonacci retracement gives levels which are predefined, users need to modify the levels as per their comfort level. There is scope to incorporate this feature in all studies. User defined studies and line drawings is a must.
More feed back will follow .
1. It is fixed in the new beta release.
2. Cross hair will take a little longer
3. Shouldn’t happen soon, we are in the process of setting up a new data server for this.
4. If you want to place an order as such, you will need to use a SL order with a trigger to enter. So place SL- buying order with trigger at 35, so only when the trigger is hit will the order get bought. Otherwise, if you place a limit above the current price, it will get bought at the current price itself.
5. F1 is for buy and F2 for Sell.
6. This will take a bit.
Thanks for the quick reply Nitin .
Expert Advisors work in Pi or not ? The way Algoz provide option of backtesting the strategies i am not seeing such option in Pi
There is the backtest option, I have shown it in the video above as well. It is under alerts on the main menu.
(i) Anyone here trading real money using the quotes from Pi? Are those quotes/market depth information reflecting accurate prices considering the data server is not ready?
ii) candlestick daily charts are still not working for me, and not getting updated. I am assuming the data servers are not up and running yet.
1. data server is for plotting the charts, what you see on the marketwatch is direct and live from the exchange, so they are as accurate as it can be.
2. Yes, daily charts will take a few more days, we are working on it.
perfect. Thanks for clarifying
hi Nitin!
a) PI freezes a lot while backtesting, most of the times needs restart.
b) Live Charts go out of the screen, hence placing order from charts becomes very difficult and dangerous.
c) Don’t know whether scripts(trade is active or not)…..but when clicked on go live, all the live chart freezes till i stop the script.
thanks for reading and taking feedback in sporting n positive way. Happy trading
Hello Nitin,
i have gone through tradescript. i can generate buy/sell signal through
this. but how can i script to modify/cancel my previous orders with tradescript ?
is it possible with tradescript in pi beta ?
pls let me know.
earlier i asked same twice , but yet not answered.
thanks
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Arti, no you will not be able to modify/cancel your previous orders. The programming interface doesn’t get the order ID input for you to be able to do so.
hi nithin….
ive been using pi for 10 days. today when i tried to login , it said the password was wrong. i retried thrice. the account got locked. i called zerodha and acquired new password with which i am able to login to nest. but with the same password pi is not working. please help. my id is RV1365.
hi Nitin!
Charts are not flexible…….in case of huge run up or down once it is out of screen it remains that way…so no way to take decision or place order in that case…..
Thanks
In case of huge run or down, the chart automatically expands. Can you send a screen shot to [email protected].
No, that’s a bug. Happened to me as well, told Siva. Reconcile the charts Rajesh, it’ll get fixed.
Hi Nithin,
i am facing few problem with plotting candlesticks. First candle of the day starts from the time i open the chart. i have been facing this issue for a very long time esp in Nifty and bank nifty options charts.
Is this issue specific to my account(ID : DN0904)?
please refer screenshot.
Thanks,
Noble
Noble, this is still a beta, we are setting up our data servers and very soon that issue should be resolved. Do download the latest release that will be up next week.
Hello,
I have a few doubts and some feature requests.
1. Where is the link to download Pi ?
2. Does Pi have ATM strategy manager ( in Ninjatrader ) like feature ?
3. If I get disconnected from internet for some reason after entering a position, what will happen ? Are working orders (say Stop Loss order) still working on server side ?
4. Does Pi have Auto OCO order feature so that I can define my target and stop loss before even entering a trade (like on CTS T4 platform)
Thanks.
Karthik.
1. Send a request to enable to [email protected] and you will see the link to download on Q. You should be enabled by next monday when we have our new release of the beta of Q.
2. Something similar, but Ninja is a lot more advanced.
3. All on server side.
4. It has bracket order, very similar to OCO.
unable to login to pi today. need help asap
i have mt4 indicators which are “ex4” files . Did they work in pi software?
You will have to convert from MQL to Tradescript.
Hi Nithin,
I have an issue with the script arrangements. Before logging off PI i had arranged the scrips in a particular manner(Like CNX Nifty as mid point record). I had saved the work space and MW before exiting PI. After some time if i login the order of the scrips are changed and are arranged in some default way (like CNX Nifty as last record). Pls look into this
Secondly it would be good if a horizontal scroll bar is provided at the bottom of the charts as its very odd to use “Scroll Right / Left arrow” of the menu bar.
Having this checked.
Any update on this Nithin? will the scroll bars be available in the next release?
Nitin, first few comments about Pi. It is definitely faster. But, placing limit order directly from chart is not possible. Besides, when we take mouse over the candle bars, the candles on the chart are not showing OHCL and candle ending time which is available in zerodha trader. Am I missing something?
Bimal, limit from chart is possible, don’t try placing orders on the candle, but in the area where the candles are not already plotted. Left click and drag your cursor on a candle to see the OHLC
I doubt Heikinashi candle’s correctness. The same issue exists even in Nestplus and i see that same is present in PI.
HA-Open = (HA-Open(prev) + HA-Close(prev)) / 2
Means open of the candle should be exactly at half of the previous body, which is not the case many times in the heikinashi candles.
Can you provide how exactly you are calculating the Open of the Heikinashi charts ?
HI Nitin can u please confirm me today (11/11/14) us commodity market is there or not since i heared that today is veterans day and the other one is if i am holding a share and i need to put target and stop loss simultaneously in CNC order it is not accepting. Can u say is there any other option for that…..
Hi Nithin/Zerodha,
I just logged using Pi first time- excellent Team work and awesome look and feel..
Really appreciate all your team hard work .
Though few bugs are there but I’m sure it will be fixed in main release.
please let me know
1.how can I view the MarketMovers -say any script with new high/low /52weekhigh/low
2.I’m not able to login after hours timings (1am to 4am )- looks like servers are in maintenance mode
Thanks…
I want to be part of Pi Testing. I tried filling up the survey but it says the UserID exist or the email id exist.
Please let me know how I can be part of testing the software.
I am very existed after watching the Video. It provides me the tools I was looking out for.
Sandip, send an email to [email protected]
sir downloaded and installed pi but the charts are updated till 31st july only …………. after reconcilation also it doesnt gets updated….dont know whats the issue……..please help
send an email to [email protected]
Hey Nithin,
Attached is the screen shot of error which i repeatedly get while using Pi… Have been following up through email [email protected] but no response received yet. Request you to kindly let me know as to how to resolve it…
Thanx,
Ankit.
Having this checked Ankit, can you tell which operating system are you using?
nitin
even i too get this problem . pi stop working with above message . i am using windows 8.1
more over when i try to login again after entering the password and security question it says invalid login id or user. only next to this if we try to login again . i am through. this problem was reported to siva also.
regards
nandakumar
Hey Nithin,
I am using Win7 ultimate…
Hello Nithin,
Thanks for providing me access to PI Beta version. My first Impression…”Awesome, the look and feel, layout everything is perfect. PI has all potential to become one of the best trading platforms.
I have few observations; one which I feel could have impact on the design framework and hence need to be addressed early. Other requirements like addition of new indicators or changes in look and feel/usage can be easily considered in later versions.
Key Issue: Synchronization of charts: If I have 5 min & 1 min NF charts open, sometimes the prices are not synced in both the charts. The reason could be that when I open a new chart I see a request is sent to server for new stream, even if it’s for the same scrip. It’s better to keep the presentation & processing layer separate in the application. Please check if only 1 stream is sent from server for given scrip and the chart processing & presentation are done by the client locally.
Following are few suggestions you may consider in later versions:
1. Trade from Chart: Allow for modifying/cancelling the order placed. Instead of right click & place order on chart, it can be drawing horizontal lines which can be moved up/down.
2. Option to remove added technical indicators from the chart. Also currently there is no option to remove the volume panel.
3. When the chart is popped out for multi-monitor view, it loses its feature of screen split. i.e it does not allow multiple charts to snap together on the additional monitor.
4. Not able to zoom Renko charts.. a single zoom shows only the last 2-3 boxes.
Thanks,
Nilesh
Thanks Nilesh,
Hello Team,
i have gone through tradescript. i can generate buy/sell signal through
this. but how can i script to modify/cancel my previous orders with tradescript ?
pls let me know.
thanks
Sir, will zerodha pi runs on Notion ink cair
2 in 1 pc cum tab?
2 bugs/issues
1. Market News -> Select All -> Mark as Read Not working.
2. Charts were displayed properly, however once I tried to generate chart for 1min, 5000bars with L&T, it seems all charts stopped working. Any setting & Symbols I try it shows me blank screen initially and in few mins (depending on duration selected) single bar is shown.
Screenshots are attached.
1. Checking this issue.
2. Today we are working on the data server and hence you will not be able to pull historical candles for a while.
When can we except to get our hand on Pi. Waiting to use since last two months.
You can start using the beta version Arun, just send a request in the link mentioned above
while importing data from excel….it freezes for a very time (hours) and doesnt work needs to restart….
Hi Nithin
How to import AFL in Pi software, I did not find the location of this. Could you please confirm how to do this. Basically I am a intraday trader.
Thanks
You can’t really import AFL into Pi, you will have to rewrite the strategy on Pi using tradescript. But we have built a bridge that can connect Amibroker to Pi, so your AFL on Ami can directly give buy/sell signals on Pi.
Mr. Nithin
Thanks for reply, you mean to say that what ever the logic in the AFL language to be re-write in Pi and can be used with the same logic. I have AFL which is built in AMI, can it be possible to re-write the code by Zerodha Team. Where can I send it ??
You have also mentioned that the Zerodha Team has built a bridge to Amibroker to Pi for using the AFL buy and sell signals. Could you please advise me how to do this bridge ??
Thanks for your early reply.
If you want to run the strategy on Pi, yes you will have to rewrite the AFL in tradescript. We can do this for you, but you will have to give us a few days for this.
Will put up a post on how to use the bridge soon, so yes you can initiate the buy/sell from amibroker itself.
HI Nithin
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I will wait for some time for this. In the meanwhile could you please advise me where I can send the AFL code of Ami to your Zerodha Team for rewrite in transcript to PI please.
I will also wait for your on bridge from ami to PI as well.
Awaiting your feed back.
Guru, we have still not started accepting AFL to be converted to tradescript. You will have to give us a few more days for that, we are all working on having the final release out asap.
Is there a way to avoid going through those security questions every time I log in, if i am using the same computer?
No, exchange rules.
Hi Nithin –
(i) on the chart settings, we have in “periodicity” – Minute, Hour, Day and Week. Why don’t we have “Monthly” settings? can you please include
(ii) There is something wrong with charts, charts are not getting uploaded or delayed upload. You mentioned data servers are not up and running. What is the ETA?
(iii) Can you please include an option on “Charts tab” for changing stock symbols. I believe that would convenient for traders not to go back to “marketwatch tab” and then click etc. I would include the same format (as in marketwatch) for picking symbols in the Chart tab as well.
(iv) I keep getting this error message on charts – see attached
(v) Feel like the charts are not userfriendly, need some re-work based on some of the suggestions from traders.
Thanks.
Data servers should be up and running fine in the next few days. We are working on some fixes, you will be able to see all of the changes in our next release. Checking on the error you have pointed.
Hi Nithin,
Appreciate all your efforts in building a excellent platform.
I would like to test Pi beta version. I have already sent my request in docs.google.com form and also mailed to [email protected].
Its still not appearing in my Q menu. Could you please have a look and send Pi download instructions.
Thanks.
can you send an email to [email protected].
sir
there is no change in script is not available and day , week chart are not working ……..
1. Add Line Chart.
2. Update Server…. Nifty is trading on Saturday 11:51AM at 8526 😀
3. Chart tool has some minor issues, sometime i select any tool, but before i click on chart, it disappear. Looks like i have just 2 sec to draw the tool, otherwise it will diminish….yet after successfully drawn, then its ok.
4. Dragging the line Horizontal/Vertical
5. Colouring the line
6. Fib Extension
7. Fib must have edit option.
8. Fib must have different colours for each line 🙂
9. Chart sometime show more bars, sometime less bars 🙁
10. Parabolic Sar must have option (Line/Dotted)
11. EMA 200 not working….extend the period
Hi Nitin,
I have tried Algoz with few strategy, back test works well, but when I GO Live, I have continuous trade alert for single trade(i.e more duplicate order).How to eliminate repetitive trade alert and also help me to convert below strategy to Pi as I have already requested tradingqna?
BUY:
SET M2 = DIP (14)
SET M3 = DIN (14)
CROSSOVER(M2,M3) =TRUE AND ADX(14) > 30
SELL
SET M2 = DIP (14)
SET M3 = DIN (14)
CROSSOVER(M3,M2) =TRUE AND ADX(14) > 30
BUY EXIT LONG:
CROSSOVER(M3,M2) =TRUE
SELL EXIT SHORT:
CROSSOVER(M2,M3) =TRUE
why is that intraday chart starts from 9.40 am instead of 9.15 am?
Our data servers are not completely functional yet. Should be fixed soon.
Nithin,
When can we expect the Pi bridge for MT4… am sure many mt4 traders like me would be waiting for it…!!!
Thanks
hi!
Improvements needed: charting needs to be smooth(without pre market data points).
1) once i backtest nifty, say 40 days data, for futher testing it repeats the process it agains downloads the data. Costing internet bandwidth,processing delays.
if we use the same data for frequently used stock or future for backtesting …it would help in bandwith load on zerodha server as well as clients……
———— i stopped all the services that used to update any software ———stopped most of the software then….i tried backtesting
for example….since last 24 hours i tried different strategy backtesting only on nifty and banknifty…
it used huge chunk of internet data allowance…….
when i downloaded 50000 bars of one minute data it did fine but again when i needed only data it failed….it should idealy use the same data for testing sake…atleat we can get some days of data to test without downloading again and again…
programmed would need just simple change of minor code….
b ) while backtesting, PI freezes.Needs to restart.
c) bracket orders needed.
d) PIVOT / volatilty / gann /fibo points in chart and orders needed.
e) strategy (option) (2 leg or 3 leg) (calender spreads) order automation needed.
f) there are many more features already available in different platform… that can add wonders.
Features of paid software can also be included….would help in growth of zerodha family and trading…..
g) strategy builder or code builder, connectivity of other platform,terminals,application(like excel) for trading on realtime.
anywayz it very nice of you people to come up with PI….although its late but good than never.
Hats off to you and your team.
thanks
Hi Sir,
May i know whats the valid format for pi password, nd plz incorporate ur requirement of password in pop up window.
Regards
For now don’t use any special characters, everything else works. We will ensure that by final release, even this requirement is not needed.
The chart i was referring which looks like nest log.
Murali, do have a look at the video link on the post. Charts can be arranged the way you want.
Hi Nithin,
How can i get the CNX Nifty, CNX IT, Banknifty charts. I mean the index chart. not the options or futures chart. I am not able to get these. I could see only futures and option charts not Index chart.
One more thing is there Fib extension tool available ?
Have explained in the video above on how to add index and looking at the chart. do check it out. Fib extension not available as of now.
Hi Nithin ,
adding index is ok. You are saying about the martket watch box that appears at top right hand corner. But what i was telling is the chart for the same.
I went though the video and no where i found how to take the Index chart. It shows how to get the chart based on the MW record (ie ctl+Alt+c). Like NIFTY14OCTFUT or NIFTY14OCT8000CE like that. What i am is asking is just NIFTY Charts(5 min,10min,15min..etc).
Yes Ragen, i have explained the same in the video in the post above. Time 1.3 mins onwards on youtube video, Choose NSE, Normal, Indices, and then CNX Nifty in the drop down box. Once added to the marketwatch, right cick and open the chart.
Hi Nithin,
I am facing an issue with the arrangement of the scrips. I had arranged the scrips in a particular order as shown (CNX Nifty as mid point). Before login off PI i had saved the workspace as well as the MW. Afterwards when i login again these arrangements are gone and is order in some default way as shown(CNX Nifty at last). Pls look into this.
Secondly it would be good having a scroll bar at the bottom of the charts so that horizontal movement would be easier rather than using the “Scroll Right” arrow in menu bar.
hi!
Improvements needed: charting needs to be smooth(without pre market data points).
once i backtest nifty, say 40 days data, for futher testing it repeats the process it agains downloads the data. Costing internet bandwidth,processing delays.
while backtesting, PI freezes.
bracket orders needed.
PIVOT / volatilty / gann /fibo points in chart and orders needed.
strategy (option) (2 leg or 3 leg) (calender spreads) order automation needed.
there are many more….
thanks
Heat MAps
Nithin,
When can we expect the Pi bridge for MT4… am sure many mt4 traders like me would be waiting for it…!!!
Thanks
Dear Nithin.
It took a while for me to navigate software and few things which i felt need to work on..
1) chart dont allow multitimeframe
2) tools are unfriendly….i mean i cannot move horizontal line or vertical where i want to or on a fixed price..unchangble.
3)the log screen on marketwatch which remains white is annoy looking on beautifulinterface any thing like clsoing of that log in like popout and popin curtain find will he very helpful…
4)yes closing indicators bit tricky as you mentioned..why we need that tricky part when we can make it close by X button like other softwares out their….on charts that tricky part make sense
5)please include custom colour changes to marketwatch aswel..it will be very helpful.
6)Pls change those nest kinda popouts–:)
and iam including two charts which might encourage to do more things with this platform and out perform existing ones.. If they all in your mind or if someone already put out for you then don’t need to answer them..Best regards.
2. fixing it.
3. we are forced to keep that log screen open as a rule. but u can reduce it completely. I will try to see if we can change that color.
Working on the other things you have mentioned.
hi Nithin,
1. Will pi work in tablets..atleast with OS of Windows RT?
2. Will the desktop version of pi support multi monitor display as amibroker?
3. Is there a way we can write code for sound or popup alerts on signal generation based on strategy.
regards
Vinay
1. No
2. yes it does.
3. Yes, it is already there.
Hello Nitin,
i have seen beta of PI, it’s a great tool. but can we cancel/ modify our order through script. to do this , we need trade positions, and order Id.
where we can avail them for programming ?
thanks.
Hello Nithin,
Please provide Heat map / Top N (which is in ZT) tool in Pi which helps traders to see overall picture of the market.
Hello Nithin,
Please ignore the comment by another user regarding Fibonacci on Pi. You are aware I personally insisted on correcting those values by reversing the percentages order which was present in Nest….
I am even sure your team and you have researched my requests before changing it on Pi. Please do make the users aware that Nest had the wrong values while Pi has the actual percentage order.
I did not find any new issues on the Pi….Please tell your team to add ‘StopLoss – Limit’ order to the chart trading…
Congratulations on the award….:)
Thank You….
Hi there…iam trying to install version 2.9.0.0…but i get argument mismatch,1 argument mismatch error message…what should i do?
Send an email to [email protected]
Dear Nithin, lack of bracket order is restricting the versatility of Pi and the flexibility of the trader! Even as beta tester I cannot login yo both Pi and ZT at the same time. So, it is restricting a traders flexibility too. Plz enable it as soon as possible.
is there any way to get candle details when over the mouse on candle like in nest plus, when mouse cursor is moved on to a candle it shows date,time,high,low,close
Yes, left click with your mouse and keeping it clicked drag the cursor over a candle, you will see the OHLC.
hi
there is no line in “mae”
Hi nitin
If you can add charts for all the indices and also the multiple market watch, it would be great
hi
there r plotting errors with some scripts
Hi Nithin,
One more suggestion, you need to add report section ( please check IIFL trading platform for reference)..their we can view order,trades,Net position,margin,activity log,holding at one window……the advantage of this report is investor like me to know net amount of purchase and sale……for eg if i sell 50000 worth shares aganist i bought 25000 worth shares…….in this case Net postion we can get 25000 balance….it is very useful for further buying
Admin position is there..But their we cant find net balance…. Admin position heading also not good….I think report is good for understanding
Yes, there is a net Quantity in admin positions, can u check.
No nithin scrip wise net value there…what i mean i need over all net value ( if i sold 4 scrips worth 50000 and bought 2 stocks worth at 25000 then i need net value 50000-25000= 25000)..it is not there
some more bugs….how to modify pending orders ?? Shift F1/F2 not working….if we use shift FI then it create new order…….existing qty not coming……actually right mouse we need edit option ..please check
Hi Nithin, I didnt get any answer to these questions
1) how to modify orders?? Shift Fi/F2 not working
2) why once order cancelled then it is showing order book..it is making lot of confusion…yes status showing cancelled ….that is useless and actually once order cancelled it wont show order book
3) is it possible to implement scrolling chart size through mouse..it will help to view the overall picture of chart? can we expect this next update?
1. Use F3 order book, pending orders to modify.
2. It has always been like that. cancelled orders and completed orders show up at the bottom section of the order book. pending orders show as a separate box above it.
3. Yes working on it, working on other things, so can’t commit if this will be ready by next update
sir
i can find % change of a script but how much rs change is not available ..or i miss it
Hey,
Pi auto shuts if when we are using some other app say IE or Chrome using Alt+Tab… showing some DDF error and Windows looking for solution… Happened twice today in between trade…
Cheers
AK
Can you send an email to [email protected], also can u let us know your system configuration while sending this.
Sent an email 2 day’s ago but no response recd yet…
Whichever Price Chart user is viewing F1 F2 Orders should go to that current chart only. Currently this is not happening. F1 F2 goes to scrip selected in Market Watch Window and Not as per Price Chart Scrip. Please correct this.
Hi Nithin, some more suggestion,
if any order executed or pending order got filled then we need to set some sound alert option.. most of the investors not watching screen all time..this sound will help to look into screen and next trading action
Yep, it is already there. You just have to increase the volume 🙂
Hi Nithin, volume is high..but i cant hear any sound when order filled or executed…please guide me if i want to make any settings..i checked user setting…..but i cant find any option there
under view, click on user settings (Ctrl+P), u can see sound alerts. Make sure the box next to order is ticked. you will get a sound everytime order is placed.
No , it is not working……sound alert-alerts,expert advisor,order events all are clicked..but i cant find any sound
please check
Hi Nithin.
Could you please convert my below strategy to Pi platform standard? I have tried but got error message.Thanks in advance’
BUY:
SET M2 = DIP (14)
SET M3 = DIN (14)
CROSSOVER(M2,M3) =TRUE AND ADX(14) > 30
SELL
SET M2 = DIP (14)
SET M3 = DIN (14)
CROSSOVER(M3,M2) =TRUE AND ADX(14) > 30
BUY EXIT LONG:
CROSSOVER(M3,M2) =TRUE
SELL EXIT SHORT:
CROSSOVER(M2,M3) =TRUE
Can you ask all coding related queries here, http://tradingqna.com/, choose category as algo and place the right tags while asking the question.
My Client ID DG0127 and want to Pi Software. Where is the download link for PI Software
This is Pi beta version, so if you want to test it click on the orange color text right at the top of this blogpost. It will open a survey form, fill that up and in 1 day the download link will be shared on Q.
Thanks Nitin
Hi – Can someone share some insights on how to change the hourly candlesticks to start from 9.15am and end at 10.15am (ie., the first candle for the day) and subsequent candles end at 11.15, 12.15 etc.
Thanks.
Karthik, this will be done automatically once our new data servers are up. Give it a few more days.
Hi Nithin
Software was attractive for sure,easy navigation s and some smart features overall and i would appreciate for bringing it. My first impressions are good .can you make additional option for background to Black -black looks very appeal aswel as all International platforms use as main background. except zerodha Theme rest of them looks very pale .
Picture for reference
Hello,
Its starting with 0%, 5.6%, 9.0%, 14.6%, 23.6%, 38.2%, 61.8%, 100%. Please look into the matter
Thank you
Raza Ali
Hello,
I am using pi its really good.Can you please look into fibonacci retracement its value is wrong and could you give an edit option for it by which traders could use there own percentage.
And Can you Add fibonacci extention too it will be a great help.
Thank you
Raza Ali
Can you tell me what is wrong with retracement? we have fixed this issue already. Edit option and fibonacci extension, we will give once the final release for pi is up.
When I am trying to open charts in the latest Pi, I am getting an exception. Attached pic for reference. Can you please let me know how to fix the same? Is there anything that I am missing or this is a bug?
Seems like an installation error. Can you uninstall and try again. you can also send an email to [email protected] to help you out.
Hey,
Is it possible to create multiple market watch windows like the way it was through F4 in ZT… If one have multiple positions in options and cash market, it gets too clustered up in single window and segregation becomes a bit annoying… If its possible, it will be good so that we can have seperate Market watches for cash market portfolio and positions in derivatives…
Cheers,
AK.
Ankit for now multiple marketwatches are not possible.
Hey,
Is it possible to open two instances through Pi like ZT?
Yep, just install Pi in a different folder.
Nithin – can we do two instances in two different computers?
Yes, just install pi in different folders twice.
Regarding multiple instances, I installed Pi on two different folders and I am getting an error message when I tried to log in twice (“user logged out. Session cannot continue”).
Appreciate your help and please let me know what needs to happen to have multiple instances.
Thanks.
You cannot login twice using the same login ID. If you need to run multiple instances, you firstly need to have multiple login ID’s and secondly while installing Pi, install it on different locations.
Hi Nitin,
This is an Important Feedback regarding ordering through snap quote Market Depth window. Please see the attached image.
Current way of putting order is exactly opposite the way a Day trader always wants to put an order. This is exactly reverse and hence useless. When there is best buyer at higher price available why on earth you would want to put a sell order to Low price than that. Vicer Versa Applies for Sell/Short orders.
Please see the attached image and it will be clear what I mean.
Please rectify this issue in next release.
Vishy, I know it will take a little getting used to, but this is how orders are placed on snapquotes. If you place a sell order at the asks(the one u have highlighted in red), your order will go pending and similarly if you place buy orders at bids, it will be pending. A day trader typically likes to buy/sell at market prices, what this kind of order will do is to let you know exactly how much impact will be while placing the trade itself. If you want to place limit orders, this is not going to add any value.
A Scalpers always dreams to capture a trade in shadow of a candle. I don’t mind if my order is ‘pending’. Difficult entry is key to achieve your trade happen in shadow of a candle.
Anyway my objective in this was If I am a day trader and I am focusing on a single scrip at a time I just want to put a pending entry order looking at market depth. The point is at any time if I want to exit I ALREADY have the two current best buyer and seller prices at other Red and green Buttons on my chart. I can always use them to exit the moment I feel price action is getting unfavorable for my position.
Current PI setup is only useful for exiting a trade at market price. Both Red Green Buttons and Market Depth Window Serve the Same Purpose. If you make Market Depth Window Reverse Like I suggest it should be immensely useful for traders like me. We can simply take a best possible entry using Market depth and a Real Quick exit using Red Green Buy sell Buttons On the chart.
Still if you are not convince with my explanation take a Poll on this as what way traders prefer to trade using Market Depth. 🙂
Or also you can have this option in User Settings as a Toggle for Market Depth Order Style as option 1 and option 2.
This is really of immense importance for traders like me.
regards,
🙂 , k let me get a feedback from others as well.
Vishy/Nithin – I believe the way it is set up now is correct, for day traders, just makes sense to have it as the way it is (i) if buying- ask and (ii) if selling – bid.
But Nithin can think about creating “Order Entry Settings” where an individual can go and define the way the orders get filled.
For example: if buying: an individual can pick, Ask, Last, Bid, Mkt, Mkt Close, etc. Makes sense?
Of course we are selling Bidders. But If you have Best Bid available why on earth you will sell to remaining 4 bidders with lesser price. This is only possible if you are having high volume and market liquidity is low compared to volume you sell. But for an MCX market & for retail traders like us we wont sell our 1 or 2 lots like that. So Nitinji for MCX at least make the change as If you want to sell join Sellers and If you want to buy Join Bidders by clicking the trade price you fill right. Current Provision for this is meaningless for retail MCX traders. I wish many ones back me here, so it convinces Nitinji.
There was a mock trader today and those ticks should be removed from pi chart as they will affect the technical study.
Yep it will be.
It would be great if we could see the Open, High, Low, Close and Volume values on hovering over a candle.
Vishal, for now, you have to left click and hover to see the OHLC. We are looking at adding crosshair, once done it will become quite easy.
Nithin sir, i uninstall older version of pi then installed newer version of 1.0.0002. installed successful but not asking new license key for login, please guide me how to solve this problem.
That should be okay, if it is not asking license key. Are you able to login? if not, send an email to [email protected] with your contact.
DD0864
Hi Nithin,
“PI” good s/w, with lot of possibilities.
The candles on the chart do not auto adjust as we scroll the chart.
Do we have multi leg orders for spread trading ?
Not presently, but we will add soon.
How to get open interest table of a option contract in Pi? its available in ZT…
Right click on the marketwatch header, click on choose columns. You will see OI, click on it.
Im asking something like this? its there on ZT.
Ah, no not for now.
Hi Nithin,
After downloading PI, I am getting this error message when system booting “The ordinal 7426 could not be located in the dynamic link library mfc90u.dll”
why it happening ?
I have all the pre requisites needed for downloading PI and it is still not loading up. I have sent the necessary communications along with screenshots to the support team to figure it out. I specifically opened my account for this platform and after opening the account i had few troubles with RMS which Nikhil resolved and i am grateful for that but overall i feel you should have not announced the release of the software until it was 99% ready , quite frankly it has basically left me high and dry with an overall bearish experience until now.
Do send an email to [email protected] with your contact details. We will get in touch and see why. This is not a final release, it is a beta only like we have announced.
DTG, Pi is in beta, and we have released it to only those who know that is a beta. Until people don’t test it out, it becomes really tough to spot and fix bugs. Btw, it should definitely load up, can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact details. Keep me in cc as well, [email protected]. We will have this fixed immediately.
I had to install dotnet update after which PI was running smoothly , there are off course charting errors present but you are aware of them as many beta testers have already mentioned them.
If i have any further requirement i will definitely buzz you on your mail. my requirement is automating signal generation and execution for supertrend or volatility stop & multi leg order for pair trading.
Can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact number. We will get in touch and sort this out.
It means you have not started setup.exe and not Pi.msi. Due to this prerequisites are not installed. Do read the document provided with installer package for correct way of installing
Hi Nithin,
On Scanners, is it possible you can include an option to include ALL the NSE stocks, or ALL NSE F&O instead of clicking each symbol to Add? I generally scan for the whole market to identify potentials trades.
Thanks.
For now you will have to add the scrips, but we could do this in the future.
Hey,
Installed Pi… But there seems to be some problem. Unable to use mouse… Not responding to any clicks.. Unable to add any scrips or anything… screen gets stuck at loading Expert Advisors and Pi becomes totally non responsive except that i can just read news… Please help out!
Do send an email to [email protected] with your contact number.
Hi Nitin,
Go the New Revised PI.Thanks.
I think as a user in addition to New setup File we should get a change log or Notes regarding Every New Version of software as what changes are made/ corrected. What new features are added so the user knows what new things to look out for in the New Version of PI.
Yep, we will keep it from this time onwards.
HI
1, no option for deleting technical analysis
2, zoom in alignment problem
1.Charting Problem and Data Server.
2. Fib Extension
3. Dragging the vertical/Horizontal line( dont make it like Ami 🙁 )
4. Cross”+” Mouse must show dotted vertical horizontal axis and exact point.
5. XABCD pattern and more charting tool
6. PADF error
7. Scripting of language.
other than that, almost all is well
🙂
I use the adx indicator for trading and in pi i found that adx along with di+ and di- is given (directional movement system is the name of the indicator in pi) If i want to change color of di+/- i cannot do so, (i can change color of adx though). This issue is continuing in Pi from zerodha trader. Could zerodha look into this? It would be of great help if this issue is addressed.
Atul, we can look into it once we have our final release.
NITHIN,
some more issues i am facing PI
when we use F2 , we cant able to change (switch)order type normal to after market order
please check
Thanks, we will have this fixed.
can i open both nest trader and pi at a time?because i want to see the charts from pi and give bo order in nest trader.can it be happened?
No, not possible. BO will be available on Pi soon.
Hallo Nithin
Pleas Kindly Notes This And Update For Active Traders
1,Pleas Set Data Window on Click a Candle & Modify Chart Period Bar Interval & Symbol
2,We Are Cannot Getting Day & Week Charts Pleas Update
3,Pleas Set Market Watch & Columns Default Save options
4,News Reader Set POP UP option Need For User
5,Set Top Gainer Loser & Top Volume Window
6,Index Box Right Click Go To Chart options For Quick open Index Chart
7,Could Not View on Pi, Go to View->User Settings->Pi Bridge
on PI
1 to 6 working on. Ensure that you have the latest installation of Pi on your system. We will have a new release by today 3pm, download that from Q.
Hi Nithin,
Few points
1) The horizontal lines cann’t be moved after drawing it where as vertical lines are able to shift to any desired points
2) Cross wires are not present. It would be good if cross wires are present
3) To change the color of the horizontal lines are not available. So that different levels can be marked in different colors. Eg SL in red, Pivot in blue, Target 1, target 2 as green ect ect.
4)All the options like SL,SL-M,Market,Limit are not available while trying to place the order after left click and placing the order.
1-3 we are working on. Point 4, you are talking about placing order from the chart right? If you want all these options, do a normal F1 and F2.
Hi Nithin,
I guess what I am explaining below is a bug.
Today I had opened the 8400CE chart in order to place the order. But before moving to the chart window my cursor was place on 8400PE in the MW.
Now instead of clicking and placing the order in the Chart window I placed the buy order using F1 thinking that the order placed will be 8400CE. But to my horror the order executed was 8400PE. Realizing that wrong order got executed I exited the 8400PE order and i lost 500 Rs.
What i expected is that if i am placing the order using F1 in the Chart window it should take 8400CE. But instead it took 8400PE ie the record that was selected in MW window.
Is believe this is a bug.
No Ragen, F1/F2 window is independent of the charts. So if you have chosen a different contract on F1 and looking at some other chart, there is no way to control that, be it on Pi or any other platform. You just have to be more careful.
Hi nithin,
Adding few more points which i thing will improve PI.
5) Enable multiple watch windows so that groups of scripts can be made possible
6)Making the scrips sync across all platforms ie PI, ZT and web
7)Pattern recognition like head & Shoulder, Crab , butterfly, Bat pattern, Parallelogram etc..
Hi,
My few cents…
1. Hope it works for windows 8.1
2. How about giving an option to write trend/resistance lines? Lets say, if on a 5 min chart, I draw a particular line as support, then it should continue for all the future dates so that whenever I am seeing 5 mins chart in future for future dates, it should show me the support line that I drew previously.
Thanks
Vijay
Right now it is not possible, but yes it is on our list of things to do.
DDO864
TODAY ON INTRADAY CHARTS CANDLES ARE MISSING FOR THE TIME PERIOD OF 9.15 AM TO 10.25 AM?
CLUELESS ?WHAT TO DO?
same problem here. the day starts from 10:27 in pi charts.
Yep, we are having some issues with the data server. We will have this fixed asap.
Link to Excel / RTD is missing in PI. Please provide the option for this.
is application for beta testing is closed or is it still open
Still open, you can see the orange link right on top of this blog post.
thank u Mr. Nithin, i have filled the forum today morning, and even sent email to (it) and (tsiva) ,but iam still not able to find any download option in my quant page, do i have to wait, can u please provide information on this.
sorry to post it but just a second later after i have posted the above comment i recieved email from tsiva that by EOD i will have it on my quant page.
When I select any futures contract in market watch and press F1/F2, I get default Banknifty symbol in the order window and not the selected contract symbol. This is not the case with NSE-EQ symbols.
How to change the Time Frame after the chart is opened?
YOu will have to open a new chart.
Hi,
The shortcuts for quick order window don’t work when the chart window is popped out. I have to go to main window>View>View Quick Order.
unable to see the starting 15 min candles. that is till now 9:34am.
Yes Vijay, we are having some issues with the data server, we will try to get that fixed asap.
column width is a problem for me , using big fonts i have to adjust column width every time i login it do not open in last saved format
My first impression
Rich with Advanced features like scanning,back testing ,optimization etc
But lack some basic features like
trading with horizontal line,
adjusting SL by adjusting horizontal line,
chart trading from all type of charts,
opening multiple tabs and arranging same in single window
range bars
code to set different time frame in script etc
Can we get the list of new things or fixes available in this new version of PI.
As in earlier version, even in this version daily charts are not working.
Hi – Has anyone here used thinkorswim platform? Navigated Pi this weekend, looks like a glorified sharekhan with some tweaks. I feel we are still so primitive with this technology platform.
Why don’t we just license the platform like thinkorswim or tradestation and start using them instead of creating this from scratch? I feel we are still long way (say 3-6 months) to get this Pi where we need for traders? But you guys are atleast in the right direction. Thanks again for all your hardwork
Licensing any of the platforms like TOS cost becomes restrictive for the masses. Even with ameritrade that offers TOS, we charge Rs 20 ($0.3) whereas say an Ameritrade charges $9.99 flat+ $0.75 per lot. Don’t know how long it will take us with Pi to get to a TOS, but like they say Rome was not built in a day. What we are building though is a bridge from Pi to connect to any analytic platform of your choice. So if you can afford say paying $4000 for advance get, we can connect it using the bridge to help you trade from it directly.
Understood Nithin. That’s why I am exploring those options. But I will still be your customer. Realistically how long do you think this is going to take to get to a decent shape ?
Also want to thank Siva and your team for the all the support with respect to fully automating my strat. My feedback was more constructive
Sorry to disagree with you
Does TRADE TIGER have scanner,bakteser,optimser etc?
can we trade from chart in trade tiger
I feel Pi is far ahead of trade tiger
( I used tt 15 months before.I don’t know latest developments)
Hi Nithin pls add two thing in PI. So i can shift my trading from nest to PI.
1) Link to excel file. I am doing pair trading so i have to use excel to monitor Pair.
2) Basket trade i have to trade in one go so i am using .csv file to import in basket trade and place the order in one go. Pls advice how you are going to provide this in PI. Pls add these two option in next release in PI. I do not need chart data so no issue i can shift PI ASAP if these two option available on PI.
Thanks
Shiv
Working on both of this, but it will take a little bit longer for that.
Thanks for awesome software.
1, Pi terminal will have tick by tick charting for NSE F&O?
2, Can we have buy above or sell below order based on time. For example if Nifty trading above 8000 for 5 mins place limit or market order.
1. It will be a 1 second snapshot data, it is as good as you get on an trading/charting platform you get in India.
2. You can code this as a strategy, but it cannot be completely automate. It is not allowed for retail.
Hi
in market watch
add pivot, resisistance, support
& blank calculation fields
Hello, I like to beta test Pi, how do I go about would like to know.
At the top of the blogpost, you can see a link in orange. Fill that up, we will do it tomorrow.
Hi Nithin,
Could you please explain what really happened on Fri morning between 11:05 and 11:30 am? It was a pretty serious issue which, i believe, cannot be overlooked. For 25 mins, no orders on NSE eq segment were going and it was only at 11:30 traders could square off their intraday positions. Also, response from the zerodha office was to “wait for 10-15 minutes”.
From a risk management perspective, it was really scary. Could have been a nightmare for INTRADAY scalpers trading big sizes.
Yes Abhay, we had an issue with our connectivity at NSE, can’t really discuss the problem on an open forum. But, we have ensured that this doesn’t repeat again.
Hi Nithin,
In the market watch it there is no column like net change indicator ie the red/green (Down/Up) arrows which are present in ZT. Also it would be good if all the columns like delta etc that are present in ZT are included in PI MW also.
One more thing when opening the charts i am not able to see the candle graph. Attached is the screen shot
Adding to above defect I would like to bring to your notice that the PI software seems heavier than ZT. Loading time takes atleast 3-5 mins when the net speed is 1 MBps. ZT is opening less than 1 min.
While logging in, use the quick login, it will happen faster than ZT. If you don’t use the quick login, Pi will download 50000 + scrips everytime you login.
How does it work when contracts expire? Does it automatically download new contracts even if quick login is selected? Or do we need to uncheck it after expiry?
You will have to uncheck it after expiry.
Can you check this tomm, we have been updating the data server. If you still see an issue can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact
Yes we will add option greeks, but will take time. Let me check on the up and down arrow immediately.
Hi Nitin & All,
Been using Pi for a few days.It is a great start by zeodha.But still a work in progress.Few observations:-
1.Loginin-Takes a bit of time
2.Edge of chart with the active candle scrolls out of view on zoom.
3.Multiple chart view is cumbersome-“tile vertical/horizonta”l feature will be helpful
4.A cross-hair showing price&time is a must.
5.No BO/CO available- to this you have agreed to incorporate.
6.Provision for default quantity will be nice like – say 100,000/price or a absolute number 100 etc.
7.Link to excel(like in NEST) is also needed.
thanks
PKJ
and yes… PI looks fascinating
I am sorry to post a Comment NOT related to PI but could not find a revelant forum to post upon
what is the latest version of zerodha trader and if i do not have the latest version how do I update it
The latest version of Zerodha Trader is 3.11.2 and can be downloaded from here.
Just uninstall the older version and install this.
Hi Nitin,
I have submitted form to participate in PI beta testing, could you please let me know when can I get it enabled in Q to download on my system.
Thanks.
If you are still not seeing it, can u send an email to [email protected]
Hi Nitin,
I am yet to see it enabled, just sent a mail to the id mentioned. Kindly take care asap.
Thanks.
Will get them to enable it first thing on Monday.
Hi Nitin, you are really doing wonderful things. Can the ZT or the upcoming Pi be used in Tablets? If yes, what is the minimum configuration requirement?
No Bimal, Pi is a desktop application only. We are building our new web based tool “Kite”, that will work on your tablet.
Hello Nithin ji,
May I know why you avoid my queries?
Great Job!!!!!
Prima facie two things I could not locate –
1. When I put the pointer on a particular candle, I don’t find the price details of that candle as I can see in Zerodha Trader Chart.
2. There should be one Horizontal – Vertical Cross pointer on the chart to mention the price and time details of the candles.
3. Super Trend Indicator was not found.
4. There is no line or data for Pivot points of the chart of respective periods.
Please look into all this.
By the way, fantastic work. Thanks
Hi,
Nothing happens after clicking on Login button. Does it really working for anyone else?
Ramesh
you must be disabled for Pi, can you send an email to [email protected] and also to [email protected]
Hello,
Downloaded and installed Pi platform latest release. Pi_1.001.zip. Confirmed that I am running newer version of C++ libs. Installed Pi.
Now, after filling in the login details, after clicking on Login button, nothing happens. Ofcourse, I have checked that my internet connection is fully functional and enough bandwidth is available etc ..
Is this a known issue? Anyone else having similar problem? Or is it because I am trying it on off market hours?
Thanks.
You must be disabled for Pi, can you send an email to [email protected] and also to [email protected]
Hi Nithin,
Installed 1st Nov PI on my machine.
why only single MarketWatch, why not multiple MarketWatch ? ( like one for NSEFO and one for MCX )
Yep, will take some more time.
It still says on top 1.0.0.0, now don’t tell me that i didn’t uninstall the older version coz I did. LOL
:), we haven’t yet given it a new version number, just the installation file is called 1.001. So u r good if you have reinstalled after 1pm today.
Few things with the 1st November release… Referring to the 31st October release…
The scripts, no matter what I do, does not save in the alphabetical order. There is a problem and even if I save the workspace in alphabetical order or add the scripts in alphabetical order (which was a tough task cos Pi adds the script to a random row) the script does not appear in alphabetical order. Few scrips still stay jumbled.
When exiting Pi, I would have saved the market watch ( in alphabetical order, Pi prompts to save or not) with the market watch tab open and ‘Order Book’ closed. The next time I login to Pi, it straight away opens into ‘Order book’ . I do not know why such trivial detail is irritating but it kind of was fine on the previous release…
Other things, I guess during the market hours and details do make the interface better….:-)
Hi,
I had filled the form provided for Pi .Now I got a message from zerodha to install the latest version of Pi from Q , but I did not find any link from Q to download Pi after login to q.zerodha.com
Can you send an email to [email protected], we will update it first thing on monday.
Hi Nithin, Some quick feed Back
1) chart zoom in/out we can do through mouse scrolling…Now we are missing over all picture of graph
2) Chart alert is little bit complicate…need to implement scripwise easy alert setting as well or need detailed post of alert functions
3) Need to detailed blog post of Expert advisor and Artificial Intelligence
Yep, coming soon. 🙂
Hi Nitin
I’m an intra-day trader and very keen to have trading account with you. As of now, what I know is that via you I can’t place Bracket Orders in NSE as After Hours order i.e. your current platform will accept Bracket orders from 9:15am onwards only.
However, as a trader first few minutes are my edge and the best entries are during those minutes only hence currently your NEST is not useful to me. I’m using Sharekhan which provides Bracket Orders as After Hour Orders in NSE scrips which is a great feature for traders like me.
I came to know from your team that in “Pi” bracket orders can be placed as after hour. Can you confirm this please because if this is the case then I wish to have trading through you.
Cheers!
No Hims, even on Pi the bracket order feature for now can’t be used as After hour. We are working on it though.
Dear Nitin
First of all thank you for trying to provide us a world class platform for trading & giving me this opportunity to test the latest version of Pi. I have tested it & feed backs are as follows:
Installation:
During installation it shows some problem but it is fixed by your IT department.
After logging out of the Pi while I am trying to login again my anti-virus shows trojen in the set up file & it fails to start so I couldn’t login into it. Again I have tried to re install it but it shows same problem. Now I can’t login in to Pi.
My observation in my first login:
1. The downloading of scripts for first time took very long time.
2. Theme & market watch is fine
3. Buying selling option in the chart itself & quick buy/sell is very good
4. Daily & weekly charts shows blank window
5. Sometimes intraday chart shows less no of candles than mentioned. e.g. If I look for 1000 candles of 15 minutes it only shows candles of last 2 days.
Suggestions for Improvement
1. To see a chart we have to right click & select chart but if it could have any shortcut key or symbol on tool bar it would be better
2. If I want to change the time frame of a script, every time I have to go to the market watch window, open the chart & set the time. It is bit lengthy. The chart window shall have option for setting time for chart period.
3. For drawing on a chart we have to go to the tools tab on the main bar, searching the required tools there & then draw on the chart. If the symbol of all useful drawing tools would be available on the chart window/menu bar it would be better.
4. For clearing drawing there is an option of clear all drawing but for clearing selective drawing there is no option.
5. Zoom in zoom out is ok but moving right, left on the chart is bit tough. If drags can be used to move left or right and cursor for zoom in & out it would be better.
6. While moving cursor over the candles it shall show open, high, low, close & time of the candle. Now it shows when I press the left click over a candle.
7. Indicators opened in second & subsequent series shall have a cross button for closing instead right click, select & delete series.
8. In the drop-down list of indicators arranged alphabetically. So while typing first letter of an indicator it shall directly goes to there but now I have to move the cursor up and down to go there.
9. Back test/Scripted alert creation window should have an ability to use a find symbol window, like the one in scanner, instead of typing whole symbol name
10. During back testing of a strategy instead of only showing buy or sell symbol in the chart if it would show all the indicators (plotted on first series/over the candles) involved in the strategy on the main chart it will help to further filter our strategy.
11. In the neural network tab there is option for pattern recognition such as double top, flag etc but it is not showing a clear image. If useful candle stick patterns like doji, hammer could be added to the list it would be helpful.
12. Some useful tools like pivot point, Fibonacci extension, super trend etc. are found missing from the list.
I will bring to your notice if any other observation will come to me in near future. Thank you. Now I request you to officially release its 1st version asap as many of us are eagerly waiting for it since a long time. You can modify the suggestions in latter version.
Will check out the trojan issue, btw can you uninstall and install the latest release. We just put it up now. We will work on all the other suggestions
Add MACD with histogram like on MT4 also allow few customized parameters for MACD ex uploading screenshot.
The settings I’ve is used 5,34,5 which doesn’t work on NEST or on Pi.
This setting help you find quick reversals reducing the lag which MACD default settings have.
Thanks, we can do all of this, for now we are looking at releasing with whatever available and with no bugs.
Logged in first time to Pi today. Overall looks good.
Failed to see Net Change column in Market Watch.
Unable to remove Volume panel on chart.
How can I do above?
New version is put up now, can you uninstall the previous and install the latest.
Hi
some of the observations in pi
1. Load chart ->right_click-> complete zoom out – and then – right_click-> zoom Selected areas
Problem: price Scale range is not getting updated
2. Load chart ->right click-> complete zoom out – and then- right_click-> zoom Selected areas
problem: once again if u select right_click->zoom Selected areas, before selecting the region
to zoom some default portion of the screen is zoomed in.
regards
Balaji J
can u uninstall and install the latest one put up now and see if it works fine.
issue still there
In addition Price scale range is not updated when moved across .please check the snapshot there is data (not plotted)
one more issue when i tried click on buy here option in chart, app gave exception
markets are closed today.
Nithin,
I have noticing that the Pi crashes with windows error msg AFTER I try to use consensus report a couple of times (using various indicators) on any chart. I suspect the same thing when I try to add / delete various indicators on the chart.
I am using Windows XP. I am not very sure if that is the reason for this crash.
By the way, lot needs to be done on the chart.
I would urge you to look at charting available on Economictimes.Indiatimes.com.
That is the kind of charting facility, that is really helpful, according to me and I expect from this software.
I had also send you a msg on Elder Ray recently . Hope you can incorporate it.
rgds
suresh
Do uninstall and install the latest release put up today.
Nithin,
I had uninstalled and installed the latest update. But it still crashes after testing the consensus report a couple of times. Sometimes on the second attempt itself. Once it crashes, re-loading the program takes even more time- This could be login issue at your end. When the program crashes, it could still be logged at your end. So re-loading may require to process logout-login which might be the time consuming factor.
pls look into these matters.
Can you send an email to [email protected] with your contact number so we can come on team viewer and check this out.
Hallo Nithin
1, I Have Put it ALGOS Code on PI For BACK TEST But We Are Getting Some of Error Message How Do IT ON Back Test & Go Live in PI 2, How to use GENETIC ALGORITHM in Pi 3, Can We Use AFL Code Direct on PI or Not ?
About backtest, for now you will have to do some self learning. It will take us a few more days to put up the tutorial for this and genetic algo
For Amibroker, we have put up the bridge. For now it is only mock trades, so orders don’t go to the exchange, but gets logged.
1. Change [Pi_Puser] VALUE to TRUE in file C:\Zerodha\Pi\Data Feed\Omne\nestclient.ini
2. Open Pi, Goto View->User Settings->PiBridge, Select Mock Trade in Automated Trading Mode.
Mock trade logs are present in [Pi Installation folder]\PiBridge.log
[Enabling amibroker to fire orders]
1. Paste pibridge.net.dll in amibroker installed folder (In my system its C:\Program Files (x86)\AmiBroker)
2. Open “Command Prompt (cmd) ” as administrator.
3. Goto C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\[Latest Framework] (In my system its C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319)
4. type > regasm [location of pibridge.net.dll] ( regasm “C:\Program Files (x86)\AmiBroker\pibridge.net.dll”)
Open Pi. If every thing is right then PiBridge icon at right-bottom will turn green when you open amibroker.
To get the dll, send an email to [email protected] or [email protected]
Once done, you can just fire orders right from your AFL. For now, this will not be sent to the exchange but just logged in that file. Very soon, we will give an option to semi/completely automate this.
Hi Nitin,
Is the Bridge for MT4 is also created ?
Not yet, it is ready only for Amibroker as of now.
Hi
Thanks for PI.
1.When i tried to view how much funds i got in my equity account it’s not visible
positions- > cash positions
2. As many have mentioned adding cross hair to charts would be good
Regards
Balaji J
Can you uninstall and install the latest version.
hi
For Equity issue fixed
For commodity – still showing zero balance
Yes, commodity is still not live on Pi.
Hi Nithin,
I tried installing PI in my desktop having kaspersky antivirus. when the setup started installing a “PDM.Trojan.generic” warning is coming up. Attaching its screen shot. Pls look into this ASAP as its critical issue.
Can you firstly uninstall and install the lastest version put up today. If you still face this, can you let us know.
Hi Nitin,
I found some glitch on second release of Pi.
1. If i click F1 by selecting script on market watch, buy order will open for some other stock.
2. how to put basic price alert for particular script & could not locate any pop up alert for the same
Improvement over 1st release.
1. Initial loading time is better, now feels like it is very light weight
2. works flawless on 2G speed connection with 5 or more script loaded on market watch. lot like zerodha web trading platform its keeps on loading always.
Otherwise trading terminal looks decent buy am not tested charting tools as it is still under development.
Regards
Naveen
Yes, can you uninstall and install the latest version available on Q. It was put up today noon, and the issue is fixed.
Dear Nitin,
Thanks for giving me this opportunity to test the latest version of Pi. I am really happy as a zerodha customer. Hatsoff to you for trying to provide a world class trading software to your clients and thanks to your I.T team also for their best efforts.
Installation point of view
As per the link mentioned in my back office it was the version 1.0.0.1 and released on 31-07-2014. I have downloaded from the latest link given on 31-07-2014 and uninstalled earlier version and removed the old zerodha folder from ‘C’ drive and installed new version, but it was showing 1.0.0.0. Further it was not asking me the new licence key at the time of installation which is provided in my back office.
Positives
01. Charts are loading fastly i.e within 5 seconds when compare to earlier version.
02. Stability improved. No frequent crashes like earlier with in every 20 to 30 minutes.
03. Charts are looking very much nice and less strain on our eyes.
04. Easily drag and drop multicharts in single window is very good, I never seen in any other trading software even in amibroker also which is the benchmark software in industry.
Necessary Requirements
01. Bracket orders along with SL-M fecility.
02. Charts should always available even in non working hours and holidays.
03. Charts are not appearing correctly in first 10 to 15 minutes in older version but not checked in new version. In a minute chart, even after 10 minutes It was showing single candle.
04. Dragging the horizontal line to any place. Option to move on change the figure in properties of horizantal line to move the desired place just like Meta trader.
05. Drawing toolbar for chart like amibroker. Due to chart refresh selected option should not go except right mouse click.
(Due to chart refreshing drawing trendline from right click is not easy. When we click on draw trendline and coming to the point where I should start, immediately that option goes due to chart refresh. In other softwares that option will not go due to chart refresh, only when we click right mouse again it will go.)
I will bring to your notice if any other points come in to my observation in near future. Thank you.
Y.Dharma Teja
Thanks for feedback, we will work on this soon.
Pi is great.
1) Please add shortcut key for everything like Shift + P for charts in ZT
2) Is it possible to sync Market Watch between Pi and web/ZT version? else it creating everything, everywhere, every month for futures
3) How to use GENETIC ALGORITHM in Pi?
4) On using the place order from chart the price cannot be modified in the small window that pops up.
I was unable to see charts in Futures for Periodicity: Day
Yes, our data servers are still not setup completely. Give it some time, it will be fixed before the final launch.
Sync between web and Pi is not possible for now. We will put up something on genetic algo soon. Yes place orders from chart cannot really be modified, it defeats the purpose right?
Nithin,
So does that mean that if I place an order from PI and later on if i want to modify the order from web i will not be able to do so? If thats the case then its a great dis advantage ..especially for the guys who use there office workstations …:(
I thought you were talking about the marketwatch? Of course the orders you can place on web and cancel on Pi or vice versa (similar to ZT). But the marektwatch that you save on ZT/Web will not show up on Pi.
Ohh…so the MW are not in sync. So i need to explicitly add the same MW as in ZT/Web in PI. And is it possible to have multiple MW like in ZT where we can add a group the scrips with different MW names?
For now multiple marketwatch not available on Pi.
So Nithin when can multiple MW be available?
Will take sometime ragen
Agreed Nithin, but there are time like silver had 2000 Rs rally in last two days and when I tried to place order via charts, the price could be adjusted in step of 30 Rs easily, but when I tried to tweak it to single rupee value, it was not possible from charts.
Basically charts are difficult to use place order from when there is a wide range and I wish to tweak value to a tick.
Some click and drag like functionality that allows tweaking while the value is displayed near the mouse pointer might help
Vishal, it is not really advisable to scalp trades by placing orders from the chart. One of the reasons we have disabled changing prices is because of this. But after the final release, we will definitely take a re-look into this.
Dear Nithin,
Most surprisingly, one of the most common and basic indicator “Stochastics Oscillator” is not working.
It is a must have indicator on charts (like EMA , MACD, RSI) for many traders .
It is not something like add on optional indicators (which you can add later). “Stochastics Oscillator” is one of the most essential indicator for many traders.
Please make it available with Final Release. You must know that, without “Stochastics Oscillator” many traders chart reading is incomplete.
Checking this.
Thank you Nithin.
Best Wishes.
Hi,
My first day with PI today.
1) I am new client just 1 month old of Zerodha , but based on my past 8 yrs trading experience with Sharekhan,Angel – Zerodha seems unbeatable.
2) Though some issue here and there but I am sure Z Team is capable to fix in days to come.
3) First trade on PI profitable.
4) Amazing work by Zerodha Team.
5) what I thought is what I got in PI.
6) Keep up good work.
7) Simplicity with all features. ( in future many other enhancement will come! )
Congrats Nitin & whole Z Team and keep providing us superb technological gifts !
in charts the data is updated till 31st july ..is there any option to update the chart data
Rakesh, charts are updated till date, which chart are you looking at? Can you ensure that you install the latest version of Pi that was put up 12 noon on 1st Nov.
1770 MTM today! … Three Cheers to PI 🙂
got the message at 7 o clock eve that latest version of pi is available on q but it is not in my id………….
If you are not seeing in your ID, can you send an email to [email protected] and [email protected] asking to enable.
Okay. So today I Installed Pi. The 1st thing I check was charts.
In charting system you need a little improvement.
1) Allow Zoom in/Zoom Out with mouse scroll.
2) Allow drag chart, click+hold+left/right.
Yes i agree for point 1..
By “2) Allow drag chart, click+hold+left/right.”
I mean allow moving chart backward – forward using mouse only.
During download version says it as 1.001. But when I install i see version as 1.0.0.0 . I hope it is the proper version we are using.
I dont see basic changes such as cross-hair which was requested.
As always many indicators are not working. For example – TWIGGS MONEY FLOW was working in the first version for initial few days, then it was not working. Now it is not working in this new version of PI.
We will have a new installer today, crosshair is still not up. Do let us know if you spot any bugs in this, we will have it fixed.
Zerodha,
Below is my feed back on PI latest version.
1. Daily/Weekly Charts in PI latest version is till 31st July, there are no candles till date.
2. Open, high, low , close values of latest candle does not display on the chart. We have to press mouse button to see those values.
Harish, 1. The data server is still not completely operational, we will have that fixed by the final release.
2. We are adding a crosshair functionality, that will help fix this.
On every chart F1 F2 goes to Aluminium
On Every Snap Quote Order goes to Aluminium
On Market Watch every F1 F2 is going to Aluminium
On Market Watch Right Click Buy Sell going to Aluminium
I am seeing Aluminium All over the place
…Serious Order bugs!
On chart Buy here does not give a chance to slightly modify the price value…it is extremely strict about your mouse click.
Whenever an Order is executed, it feels like I am standing on a Railway Platform! 🙂 PI is so funny …
Yep, some issue with the installer, we will have a new one today. We will SMS once it is up.
nithin
placing the order from snap quote is not available . please look in to basic features of trading platform rather than this charting tools. one we set right all these basic features .then we can concentrate on charting and advance features.
regards
Checking this
hi nitin
many basic problem exist with pi .that is with order placement .
for example i am having 10 scrips from different scrips in my marketwatch and choose any scrip and try to place order that to in fno segment buy or sell the order window displays banknifty and if you chose any commodity scrip order window shows alumin similar is the case of currency it shows eurinr in order window. the order window shows correct scrip only in cash segment.
i don’t know whether this problem is with my pi installation or for all. pls look into this because this is serious issue for trader.
regards
nandakumar
Yes, I checked after your comments. Even I get the same problem.
Yes, it is with the installation file. We will have a new installation file tomorrrow morning. We will SMS you as soon as we have it updated on Q.
We will have a new installer today, we will SMS once it is up. This issue is fixed.
Hi Nithin,
I have already submitted the filled-in form but still waiting for Pi to appear on my Q dashboard. Please get it sorted, as early as possible. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, forgot to mention Client ID- DN0075.
Hi Nithin, Its good initiative with pi ,I would like to see pivot points on chart. Please provide ohlc for a candle if we hover pointeron it. I am sure you’ll include other customisation like in zerodha trader in course of time .Cheers
If you left click and hover over a candle, u can see the OHLC. Pivot points, we could add in the future.
Zerodha, excellent work. Light on resources. Pleasing to the eyes.
Some improvements:
1. Settings should be permanent for all charts/Workspaces. Hiding grids/Indices/quick order window everytime is annoying.
2. Backtest/Scripted alert creation window should have an ability to use a find symbol window, like the one in scanner, instead of typing whole symbol name.
3. Shortcut for reconiling active/all charts would make life easier. Rather reconcile should be automatic, detecting any missing data or periodically, say every 15 minutes/1 hour.
5. Ability to add our own RSS sources in the news window.
Bugs:
1. Saved workspace with several windows, after relog-in and loading custom saved workspace, it loads default windows.
2. Snapquote LTP is not updated. Attached JPEG.
The idea of quotes on the splash screen is also nice.
Thanks, we will have the bugs fixed before the final release.
Hi Nithin
I have a question. why to develop a new software and fight with so many bugs? instead you could have bought a software or had a tie up with a company which already has an advance software na? such as Spotware and netdania?
Hey Siva, doesn’t work that easy, otherwise everyone would have done the same by now. 🙂
hmmm ok by the way no negativity was intended. These people are really doing great job.
dear nithin sir
i am living in a small town ,here the availibilty of internet is very bad ,we do not have 3G or broadband network here, we are working on 2G network . Nest trader , odin , nse-now works well here, i can run two instances of them and browser based real time charts at a time fluently with no problem .
now the problem with PI is that it take 35 minutes to download symbols ,when i LOG IN PI at 2:30 it completed downloading on 3:05, meanwhile at 3:20i get disconnected from net and PI also closed , i relogin at 3:25 and it is still downloading symbols now at 3:51 and market is closed in between. how can i work ?
now my question is that if i disconnected 10 times then it will eat up 5 hours for downloading symbols . please guide me
i think the problem is
1) it is not saving scripe file which it downloaded
2) do not prompt which exchange scripe to download
3) at first glimpse in 10 minutes i also found that it is using two times more bandwidth then nest trader
yeh there it completed downloading 4:01pm
please help in this issue
Vinesh, make sure after the first time you click on quick login (have explained in the video). The bandwidth issue will be sorted by the time we have the final release.
Fib Extesion is not available,
Horizontal Line dragging not available.
Zoom Functionality little bit difficult.
Yet most of the functions can be operated via Mouse…its a good sign of easy functionality.
How to change the Background color ???
🙂
For now you can add a trendline and drag it. Use the up/down arrow keys for zooming in and out (this was added in this release). You can change the theme, explained in the video.
Good afternoon & Thank you zerodha for providing the access to PI beta. I am sure this would revolutionize the trading platform in India.Would request your views on the below (if can be added as feature)
1. Running candle OHLC not there. % change to previous day close be made available. Also if any indicator added, that value also be made available(say something like datawindow)
2. No crosshair is available. Please make this.
3. Marketwatch – would like to have indices based market watch (including thematic indices) and FnO securities based market watch. Also chart be made available for all the indices to analyse which sector performance
4. No bracket order
5. Initial loading of PI takes lot of time (more than 5 minutes)
6. Chart trading is allowed only with standard HLC or candle charts. I primarily use Heiken ashi chart. It is not available. Also if values for Heiken ashi is also made available on the datawindow, that would be great
7. Also indices snapshot for respective exchanges (not all in one; separately for NSE, BSE etc.,) to be made available. From there drill down to stock level should be made possible. From there the same should be added to marketwatch.
8. Provision to create custom indicator to be made available.
1. Yes 2. Yes 3. For now u will be able to add only Nifyt and Bank nifty 4. BO will come soon. 5. It is only the first time login, because there will be over 50000 scrips being downloaded. From second time, it should be immediate(make sure u have clicked on quick login). 6. We will look into it. 7/8, these are additional features, we could add after the final release.
Awesome Work Guys… Keep rocking… When is it getting launched ??
No matter what ever you try to buy or sell default BankNifty order be punched. What kinda bug is that?
Im going back to age old Nest trader because atleast right orders are punched.
Shouldn’t happen Ankit, I guess it has to be something with the installer that you have used. Give us sometime, we will put up a new installer in Q asap and let you know.
Zerodha Pi is nothing new its Nest trader in new dress….I use to encounter this error everyday in Nest same here…..LOL
Ankit, this is still the beta, are you talking about missing data? Our data servers are still not completely functional.
Look @the volume bar its same error which is there in NEST.
What about the volume bar? If you are talking about that big bar which is skewing the data, like I said the data server is not completely functional yet. That will be fixed very soon.
opening but not functioning . opens with version 1 which i never used. application hangs without datafeed
news are updated.
pls help
regards
hi nithin ,
Get Pi latest link ……but facing problem when try to install it ….
After uninstall Older version and restart my computer when I going to install New Version every thing goes well but problem is that when I open this application surprisingly it open older version not Latest version ….. 🙁 ( and also not asking for new product key )….
I called your CC but they said soot an Email at to your end ….
plz let check this problem ……
tanmoy panja
DT0027
If you have downloaded the latest files available on your Q account today, then you need not to be worried as we have provided the latest setup version 1.0.1. Version of the setup has been updated and Pi version is still 1.0.0.0 which you can see at the top.
ok ..got it
After downloading all scripts a notice appear as below
DDF-data not responding
and pi get closed
DG0291
Please reach us at: [email protected]. We will try to resolve the issue you are facing.
very impressive,
but stochostic ocsilator missing in PI ???
its is very usfull and common in all charting tools
Don’t worry about indicators, once we have the final release is out, we can add as many as you want. 🙂
quite impressive.
Detail feedback will post soon
i have one word to tell u nithin…. AWESOME JOB
Till now only login window is appearing. nothing moves forward..??
Please reach us at [email protected].
I too have have same problem, installed the software stands there without logging in, Please help.
Thanks,
Please reach us at [email protected].
da online reason i have to stick with my old world brokers is the 6-7 times intra day margins which i get and slightly lower brokerage than what yours is. otherwise a lot of things u guys are doing is awesome
We do give upto 20 times intraday leverage for equity. Are you talking about 6 to 7 times on F&O 🙂
ya correct i was talkin fno , commodities in particular
pi software installed .
directly login page apper no licency key enter field??
and login id and password entered but no reaction
pi software installed . login id and password entered but stands at the same place without logging in.
Please reach us at [email protected]. We will help to resolve the issue.
Downloaded Pi. but not going ahead of login in screen. Please help.
Please check your email and revert at : [email protected]
Hi – Where can i get Pi.msi file (based on the error message and installation instructions)? I did not receive them when downloading Pi? Please help. Thanks
Pi_1.001.zip is the downloadable folder and when you decompress this folder you will get Pi_1.001_setup file which contains: Pi.msi .setup.exe and User Installation.doc.
User Installation doc will help you in the installation.
Hi Nithin,
I am Not able to see Pi option/menu in Q. ID DS1095
Hi nitinji,
Please create a second page of this PI Feedback and review Part – 2.
This is page has become really BIG enough to hang up my browser, the time I open and scroll down.
regards,
Hi Nitin
Can u please tell me why no bracket order in commodity segment & when the bracket order will be launched for commodity and is it available in PI trading software…………….
BRacket orders not yet approved by MCX, not on Pi as well.
hi nithin your team were not been able to load zeroda trader paltform win 8.1 on my ultrabook they even had the audacity to tell my husband to go for a walk when they wasted more than half a day tryin to install it and tampering with the laptop setting,the people involved were ankita some guys who gave their names as vinay and vadarajan
my id da2389
Let me get someone to check on this.
Nancy, we’ll get someone from our tech team to call you and install this once again.
Our staff was trying to say “we’ll take care of your problem” but instead it came across as rude and we sincerely didn’t intend that. Please accept my apology on behalf of them.
Thanks for the feedback. We hope you’ll have smooth sailing after this.
Hi, Nithin
Many many thanks for posting the link, I submitted request form and I am waiting for further steps to follow.
Do login to Q by around 1pm tomorrow, you will see Pi in your menu. You have to download the file, and follow the steps in the instruction file for the installation.
Dear Nithin ji, I have submitted the survey form completely filled. Plz get me too on board. Thanks
hi
can we use bracket order in Zerodha mobile platform?
If not are you planning to upgarde the mobile app in future for bracket order.
what is other way to place bracket order when not on desktop zerodha trader?
For all those interested in testing Pi, do fill up this survey form. https://docs.google.com/a/zerodha.com/forms/d/15hHNIwg5N5rBvqc_8X6Sl6jBgcP-shVC8r6XPnV-hEo/viewform
thanks nithin. btw u asked if we traded in the last month. don’t bias ur opinion of selecting beta testers on that. my account was activated recently. so didn’t trade. hope u will acknowledge this while selecting beta testers. thank you once again for pi and all the best…
Bracket order not presently on the mobile, for now there is no other way, only through the desktop ZT
heard to much about pi, patience is giving answer…….., please post the link..
We will be able to run those expert advisors(which I assume are trading syatems) on custom price arrays like user defined range bars/renko bars/3lb right? Giving them for plotting won’t be of much use otherwise.
yes
Hi Nithin,
On these options chain on the platform, would we be able to see the Greeks like Delta, Theta, Vega Historical/Implied Volatility etc on the options chain?
Not for now Karthik, we will work on all of this after the final release of PI as new features.
guys be patient, it is not some kind of game or tweeting app to release in hurry and then check for bugs after release, it is financial software even a small glitch can damage a trade and reputation of zerodha. so they are taking time,
I echo Kishan. good point.
I m also in the queue and that too waiting for months
Hi Nithin,
I am waiting long time to test PI, anyway please include GANN box technical analysis tool same like a fibonacci tool.
Hi,
Nithin
I too eagerly waiting to contribute my part in beta testing of Pi and I also sent a request to IT dept long back, but till now I did not receive any mail.
Hi Nithin,
First of all hats off for launching Pi platform. Really Great effort…
I may not have posted lot here and but always roaming around here watching new developments.
As far as Brokerage firms are concerned no other firm has took this much effort to keep their clients happy and to increase satisfaction of their clients.
But Zerodha differs here,really appreciable effort from your team and you 🙂
We keep on pestering you for the link is only bcos of curiosity..seriously we cant control our excitement to get hands-on experience.
Hoping that I will also get a chance,Eagerly waiting to contribute my part in beta testing of Pi…
Thanks again to you and your team and wishing Zerodha to scale new peaks in future 🙂
Hi Nithin,
Is the Neural Network also available with this release? Today 29th ..2 days passed eagerly waiting. :-w
hi nithin
i am constantly watching the development here. i have a suggestion if pi trading software full fills the basic needs of trading software. why don’t you release it for all . we can fix all other charting and tools reqiurement one by one in forth coming release and updates of the software.
regards
nandakumar
DN0359
…nithin… waste of time coming here often. no more expectations on pi. i’ll better wait for the final PI release this year or the next instead of this beta testing. this is really disappointing man.
I agree, loosing patience.please come out with concrete time line……. instead of this hide and seek.
Hey Raj and everyone, there are a few things pending. Have all your email ID’s, so will ensure someone from our office emails as soon as we have the new release live.
sir please send a mail to my email also…………exited abt the new platform
please provide the link.
Contacted the support three times in last two week .The replay is always”As we have many requests we are releasing it in batches. We can add you in our list and send you the link with your respective batch.”
No replay to when the turn of may batch comes.
hi nithin… same here. post the link dude.
Hi Nithin,
Same here eagerly waiting to try on Zerodha pi.
Hello Nithin,
When are u going to share link for registration for beta testing of Pi?
Eagerly waiting for the same.
Will announce it on the blog post as soon as we are ready. Looks like it will atleast take us a couple of days more.
1.Need back testing code for stachastic and camarilla
2.kindly add supertrend indicator in pi as well as its backtesting code is also needed
You can ask for all coding help here: http://tradingqna.com/algos-strategies-and-code. Supertrend will take some time. Also when asking for coding query, be descriptive, it will be tough to understand if you say backtesting code for stochastic.
1.Please take a look at this chart not showing proper data range and time chart started from 10:31AM instead of 9:15 AM
2.Please add Supertrend Indicator
***please DELETE my previous post***
Checking
Hi Nithin,
For Bracket orders, so far it is not useful for traders taking trades based on breakouts, example , if I want to buy NF when it crosses 8000 or sell NF when it crosses below 7900 , this option is not there in the NEST also. I hope this is implemented in the Pi, as otherwise the BO is not of any use for Breakout traders, and thus can’t use the benefits of the BO, which I find is of immense use for traders.
Hope this is addressed in Pi and also if possible on NEST.
Thanks
yep working on this Don. Unfortunately this small bit of BO is controlled by the exchange and we can’t release until it gets approved.
Hi Nithin ,
To day I notice some problem In Pi……
1) intervals of bars are not accurate like 13.30 pm bar closing at 13.29.45 pm ……
2) don’t know why in real time 5 minute chat showing 1 minute data bar (9.30.40, 9.30.54, 9.31.19 data bar )……
3) in real time when I press Reconcile Button to get missing ticks than all bar marge in one giant Bar ….
4) missing Reconcile Button on index charts so can’t get missing ticks…….
Sometime i see Ami coding, i just become restless. 🙁
We are here to trade for money or to train our coding skills.
Ami is no doubt most advanced Trading software available on planet.
But are we so much advanced???
Just like driving Ferrari with CNG Kit. 😛 😛
And feel like we are aware of Ami, and now become much technically sound on Coding …. Lol
We buy Ami for enhancing our coding skills or for trading 😛 😛
Simple indian Trader just want simple platform(Expected: Zerodha pi) and simple trades to earn and can support his/her family. No one is going to become Warren Buffet after knowing all the coding skills…its the harsh reality but its the truth….If you want to become another Warren Buffet, then be committed for trading, not for coding. Think Logically not technically.
Thats why i have high expectation for Pi and i think Pi will create the new success records in Indian Trading.
To be a professional trader, you dont need to be a coding expert, but to be a good human being with in-depth knowledge of the market. No book or no subscription(Signal) package will help you to make you the millionaire.
Atleast i think Zerodha will break this misconception and by seeing the success of Zerodha, i can say that Zerodha will be the new market leader in upcoming year.
One more suggestion i want to share with Nithin only 😛 that it will definitely help the indian trader to do trades more frequently and boost some extra bucks to our pocket.
Nithin didnt replied to my long essay type query 🙁 , but he is consistently managing the forum and the zerodha team…Superb Guy
1. Fibonacci Extension ,Fibonacci Retracement , ABCD,XABCD pattern….
2. EMA, Stochastic,Bollinger, Parabolic Sar,RSi……
3. Candle Chart,line chart
4. 1,5,15,30,1hr Chart
5. EOD, Weekly, monthly Chart yearly Chart,
6. Drawing Tools
7. Order placement on Chart by dragging
8. Lot adjustment on chart for targets
9. Stoploss movement on Chart by dragging
10. Buy/Sell pending order movement on chart by dragging.
11. Chart Background color( I like white Background and red-Green Candles 🙂 )
12. No need of 3D Candles(waste of extra advantage feature)
13. Bank Link for transferring the funds and Funds View available on trading account
14. Daily/Weekly/Monthly Report on email
15. Trade book, executed order, pending order, net position….
16. Simple coding and backtesting if needed.
This is my only requirement for trading. Zerodha Pi will fulfil all this.
Hey Thanks for the kind words Fahad. 🙂
Yes, all your requirements are already there on Pi. Some of them like dragging the pending order on the chart, will take some more time to go live on.
Btw, Amibroker is a really powerful tool. The power of Amibroker lies in AFL(the coding language). If you are trading based on technical analysis, then backtesting a strategy is imperative. One of the reasons for trading using TA is that it gives you the power of backtesting and then the ability to run that strategy on multiple scrips to spot trading opportunities. Yes, it takes a bit to learn it, but the power you get by it is immense. Even Pi has tradescript that can help you do the same and is actually much easier to learn than AFL.
That said, if you are not using technical analysis, don’t think it should matter if you know AFL or not.
Best of luck.
Is it possible to add ALPHA OMEGA ELLIOTT WAVE ADD-ONN to the charting in Pi- Trading platform.
Yep , we could in the future.
May i know how long will it take.
Is it possible to add ALPHA OMEGA ELLIOTT WAVE ADD-ONN to the charting in Pi- Trading platform
Hi Nitin can we have spread price chart in PI. I have amibroker code for same. Pls find below the code:-
_SECTION_BEGIN(“Future Spread”);
SetChartOptions(0,chartShowArrows|chartShowDates);
_N( Symbol1= ParamStr(“Strike1”, “IDBI-I”) );
SetForeign( Symbol1 );
C1 = C;
H1 = H;
L1 = L;
O1 = O;
V1 = V;
RestorePriceArrays();
_N( Symbol2= ParamStr(“Strike2”, “SAIL-I”) );
SetForeign( Symbol2 );
C2 = C;
H2 = H;
L2 = L;
O2 = O;
V2 = V;
RestorePriceArrays();
Color = ParamColor( “Color”, colorRed );
Style = ParamStyle( “Style”, styleLine, maskPrice );
PlotOHLC( abs(O1-O2), abs(H1-H2), abs(L1-L2), abs(C1-C2), “(” + Symbol1+” – “+Symbol2 + “) spread”, Color, style );
_SECTION_END();
Yes, we can add it in the future. For now, we are looking at releasing Pi with all the charts/indicators that are already available.
Hi Nithin,
Do you answer our questions or there are experts who answer us on your behalf ??
Regards.
Nopes, I answer personally, takes 30mins to 1 hour of my day, but helps me to stay connected and figure out ways to improve our business.
Cheers,
He’s an expert himself…. 🙂 In trading that is…
I am devis modi (DD0566) currently using Zerodha Pi. I am not able to import saved market from NEST trader. I also would like a 20day swing indicator which is very useful and only available in Ami broker. There is also no Net change in market watch there is only the % net change column.
You will not be able to import marketwatch from NEST. 20 day swing indicator, if you can give us the AFL code, we can have it incorporated in the future.
hello sir,
this is code of 20 swing…
_SECTION_BEGIN(“Swing”);
res=HHV(H,20);
sup=LLV(L,20);
avd=IIf(C>Ref(res,-1),1,IIf(Ctsl,colorGreen,colorIndigo),0,IIf(Cross(C,Ref(res,-1)),Low,High));
//Scanner mode
Buy=Cross(C,Ref(res,-1));
Sell=Cross(Ref(sup,-1),C);
_SECTION_END();
_SECTION_BEGIN(“Price”);
SetChartOptions(0,chartShowArrows|chartShowDates);
_N(Title = StrFormat(“{{NAME}} – {{INTERVAL}} {{DATE}} Open %g, Hi %g, Lo %g, Close %g (%.1f%%) {{VALUES}}”, O, H, L, C, SelectedValue( ROC( C, 1 ) ) ));
Plot( C, “Close”, ParamColor(“Color”, colorBlack ), styleNoTitle | ParamStyle(“Style”) | GetPriceStyle() );
_SECTION_END();
Hi Nithin,
I agree with Farhad Malik with the tools he suggested as a trader…++ few more what as a intraday trader i feel important which will help ALL the traders.
1) Need Fibonacci Retracement and Fibonacci Extension Tool.
2) Order placed directly on Chart
3) Pending Order can be moved by dragging on chart
4) Lot size can be decided on Chart
5) Stoploss can be moved by dragging.
6) can decide how many lot to be executed on Targets
1,5,15,30,1hr, Daily Chart
7)Drawing Tools like, horizontal-vertical lines, Text box visible on the chart itself for easy access.
8) Risk managable tool OR setting which IF the trader wants can set his risk per trade.
9) Bracket orders for Nifty futures and CNX Indexes.
10) Chart Bracket Order placement with ALL values auto filled in..Entry , Stop Loss and Target value ++ the position size too.
11) Text and tools marked on the chart which can be carried forward on the lower time frame charts and not on the higher time frame.
12) Alerts for trading that should be attached to the login and not to the system….meaning if i have put alert on my home computer through my login….THEN those alerts should be available or accessed from my office system also. Alerts should not be restricted to the system .
13) An option when a trader logs in… few questions before he starts trading asked to ALL intraday traders that 1) Are you feeling low / nervous / angry / frustrated OR are you feeling nice / good / happy….if the answer is YES to low feeling…A WARNING SHOULD BE POPPED UP SAYING…do not trade today. If he answers i am feeling good…. have a pop up of wishing good luck for his trading from Zerodha.
14) Chart zoom in and out by scrolling the mouse.
Warm Regards to ALL Zerodha Team.
_
Hallo Nithin
Can We Use Same ZTREDER UCI & PASS OR Any Request Send Mail For New Activation BETA PI ?
Will share the link to send a request for the beta soon.
Hi Nitin,
To be true, i am fedup with Amibroker + Windows 7 Combination.
NinjaTrader is Far Better.
I am waiting for the Pi, kinldy make it available for the Mac System also. 🙂
Saw a youtube video of Pi. Looks like it will create a new revolution in Indian Trading Scenario.
Expectation on Pi
Need Fibonacci Retracement and Fibonacci Extension Tool.
Order placed directly on Chart
Pending Order can be moved by dragging on chart
Lot size can be decided on Chart
Stoploss can be moved by dragging.
can decide how many lot to be executed on Targets
1,5,15,30,1hr, Daily Chart
Historical Chart
Drawing Tools like, horizontal-vertical lines, Text box……..
and above all, simple Coding strategy, like drag and drop strategy in Visual Basic and Dot Net coding 😛
Personally i think, trader is meant for trading not for struggling in coding and installation like Ami+Win7
Ami —Trial—License Price 😮 —–installation 🙁 —- coding 🙁 —-struggling for code 🙁
Win 7 Installation of Ami, compatibility issue, download this , then that ,then again this, then that file, to make it compatible for AMI … 🙁
Where is trading ?????
Indian trader must be a computer programmer or what??????
Pi must not be another trading Platform, but Pi must be rewarded like value of Pi(numerical 3.14) all over the world.
Long essay cum frustration on AMI and Win 7 🙁
Hope Zerodha will launch Pi soon.
can the renko charts be corrected in the next version of pi—currently they are totally wrong, as
1. tick means a trade and not a second–and i do not think they are being constructed as per number of trades
2. the default option when we open renko–it gives size —zero— which is totally wrong as how a brick can be constructed on zero trades
please implement it properly asap.
Number of trades? Why? http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/renkochart.asp
yeah the 0 bit, will check on it.
Ya Nithin, I checked the link.
By definition only Renko does not have the concept of time and volume—so for Renko charts one brick should only represent the predefined range of price fluctuation—once the price is out of the range , a new brick should start up—
please re-look into it.
Yep and that works fine. Will double check this soon and let you know.
Hi Nithin,
Today I booked a loss of Rs1100 due to Wrong behavior of Renko charts in Pi. At 9:20 AM, I shorted nifty at 7815 expecting new red brick would form and if not then I book loss as soon as I see green brick. But market turned against me it went up plus 15 point & Pi Renko chart kept displaying red brick & then I dicided to book a loss at 9:25 AM. Even after booking loss Pi keep displaying series of red bricks for a long time without a single green brick. I kept a box size of 1. Today this is my first trade through Zerodha. First time I booked a 1100/= loss due to Pi wrong charting. My Client ID is DV3531. Plz look into this ASAP. Feeling very sad.
Thanks
Vikas Shanker
Vikas, if you are looking at trading using Renko, will suggest you to use kite.zerodha.com. There are different interpretations of the Renko chart, it is best you study them before taking a trade based on it.
Hi Nithin,
The Renko charts in Pi are not correct. I see the market move beyond the number of ticks specified in the Renko brick size but still new bricks not being formed. The bricks keep on appearing and disappearing as the market moves which should not happen with Renkos. Please look into it and rectify it.
Thanks
Hi Nitin, where can we register for the beta testing. You said you were about to share the link.
Anxiously waiting for the same 🙂
NO SIGN OF “PI” TILL NOW.
OR HAS IT BEEN LAUNCHED ALREADY.
I called the local zerodha branch and the guys there said they don’t have any info about the pi release. there is no precise time for this release. its just all speculation. waste of time checking this site regularly. hope it will be released in november atleast.
Ya fed up waiting from August. It’s so unprofessional
Siva, it is a trading platform and can’t afford to release something with bugs. Hence we are slowly scaling this up.
The final release of Pi will take a couple of weeks. But yes, the new beta should be out by wednesday. Got delayed because of all the holidays.
hi nithin… by wednesday, u mean tomorrow or the next week??
Hopefully by tomorrow evening. Just a bunch of final things that are being worked upon.
thanks man
thanks sir ……… i was a trader at iifl hv switched to zerodha just 5 days back…………. hope to see nice interface for the new platform..happy diwali to all the zerodha team & nitin sir from my end
Thanks Arun, welcome onboard and best of luck.
Hi Nithin,
Today is supposed to be the day of beta launch. What’s the progress and whien do we get the chance to use pi.
Pushed it for a couple of days because of the holidays.
hi nithin.. can you provide the actual date of pi release? i mean the taking new members for beta testing.
Hopefully should be in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Q:
8) Also could not find, write/Link Market Watch Data to excel option. Though not very sure if its already there.
A:
8. Not there presently.
My Question is, will you add this future (linking to Excel) in Zeroda Pi?
Yes.
Hello Nithin,
Another request.
Is it possible to make a Stop Loss Limit order available on chart trading apart from the Quick Order box.. Because during fakeout, Pi seems to fill the worst possible price on the order and by the time the price falls back under the resistance or support, we will be already in the reds. The slippage is really high. A limit order will probably neutralize the slippage by a certain margin.
hmm.. Let me check.
1 )couldn’t load historical data when press Reconcile button ……… showing error msg…….
2 )Error in timing of 1 mits chart ……. not proper timing maintain like one bar open at 13.37.05 but next open at 13.37.58 next 13.38.05 , 13.38.58 and so on ……
3 )missing changing time interval button from 1mits to 5 mits ot 10 mits like Ztrader on chart ….. have to open new chart every time from market watch ………..
Yep, these things will be fixed.
Hello Team,
Can i be part of Pi Beta ?
if yes, than How
hi sir,
r u launch Z PI, kindly give download link
best regards
guru
Hello Nithin,
1) I do my study a day prior to trade. I normally open 4 different charts of different time frames of the same script for trading. Say Daily, 60min, 15 min and 5 min or 3 min… Can we have a simple tool where some text is marked on the 60 min chart or a tool say horizontal line is placed on a 60 min chart and the same text or horizontal line is carried forward on smaller time frames and not on the bigger time frame chart ….this gives a greater understanding to decide on a trade. THIS SHAREKHAN HAS AGAIN SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO OTA STUDENTS… THIS FEATURE IS VERY WELL THOUGHT BY EXPERT TRADERS FROM UNITED STATES TRADING SUCCESSFULLY PAST 20 PLUS YEARS.
This will help lot of traders too.
2) On the chart can we have the facility to scroll the mouse and minimize and maximize the chart ( zoom in and out ). A function which all traders use.. which requires less input and less time plus easy way to get the desired result for fast decision taking. As a fast intraday trader these features are of great importance.
3) simple tools eg ( cross hair, horizontal line, vertical line, text on the chart and as per your statistics of people trading ..where these are made easily available with less input , easily and fast accessible . That will help all. Just a line of maximum used tools by traders…. placed with very small icon on the chart itself.
Warm Regards,
1. Will look into this.
2. Yes, will be available in the next release.
3. We are trying to add icons for these on the toolbar itself.
Hi NIthin,
Wish to see this on Pi
4 charts of different time frames of script-1 opened.
Now if we select script-2 all the four charts should change accordingly.
yes it is on our list of features to be added in the future.
i am mcx trader. i have few suggestions
1. On investing.com website you can see what weekly scheduled news will be released on economic calendar. e.g. US natural gas inventory on every thursday 8pm. at that time natgas shows huge volatility.so i wish such economic calendar to be included in PI itself.user should be alerted about such news in advance.
2. is it possible to overlay international commodity price charts above indian commodity chart with some different color scheme. if yes then this would be a great addon.
3. intodays software we get popup based net position details and order details.i suggest make this a tabbed feature.then this wud be less annoying.
4. is it posdible to rent a signal from winners or master traders. say i wish to follow trading signals from say two winners from zerodha to whom i m willing to pay for a trade signal.zerodha can create such a facility where masters can sell there signals and they get paid 70% and zerodha gets 30% per every subscription bought.
5.there shud be facility to share your track record without sharing your name like myfxbook.com. this would be useful in case no.4 and in many cases.
Thanks
right Nitin – Point 4 is really notable one – Once your team is free from PI and other ongoing projects – you people can think on it …really scalable feature..
1. Could be done in the future.
2. We will need data feed to the international commodity prices for this. But yeah, it seems like a good idea.
3. yep.
4. It is on our POA.
5. Have you checked out Quant? We could give you an option to share this with others.
Hello Nithin,
One general feedback. You are doing fantastic job in making trading experience better.
I have a suggestion to make it much better for traders. I recently came across a site which gives the list of important events happening and the probable outlook of markets every week. I have found it very useful.
Here is the link: http://www.sharemarketschool.com/
They are not giving any kind of tips but just an expert insight of the markets for the coming week.
Can i request you to start one such blog in Z Connect and post your outlook for the market every Sunday? I believe it would be extremely helpful for traders because its my common experience that how much ever i am prepared with my strategy i might have left out considering some upcoming major event, it would be helpful for everyone to track upcoming events and know markets better if you add this.
Thanks
Sukesh
Thanks Sukesh, we are looking at putting up an interesting economic calendar.
Hi Nithin,
I have opened a trading account just for PI. I am a fast intraday trader. Had been waiting for PI past 2 months. Kindly consider me for PI beta testing when the link will be put in few days from now as you said earlier.
Warm Regards,
Hems.
Hello Nithin,
“” Happy Diwali ” to ALL the Zerodha Team.
May Zerodha reach to greater heights this year.
God Bless you all.
Thanks Hemant, happy diwali to you too. Will share the link to get enrolled for the new beta release the next week.
Hello Nithin,
I have been communicating with you directly, thought I will post here too…
Read through the entire page and all the problems are reported.. I do not use much of the EAs or other options. Good the chart will have all the navigation fixes in the upcoming beta.
A small glitch, if I have three orders open and I go into ‘Admin Positions’, right click on one of the positions and hit square off, the position does not get squared off.
I need to select the position and then hit the tab that says square off. And please do add a ‘X’ to the chart tab so we can close it directly instead of moving to the far right…. And hope you could add ‘One cancels the other’ order
And waiting for the new beta file. Would love to finally trade well with all the data being filtered and software almost at its completion… Great software….
Thank You… Love the service from Zerodha….
Pavan, my guess is that your order doesn’t get squared off when you are trying to square off from admin position because your margin is getting utilized for the open pending orders. If that is not so, can you let me know.
That is not so. I can squareoff from the admin position using the ‘Square off’ button that is provided below in the window. But when I try to square off by right clicking on the open position, it does not. I will try it again today.
Hi, Nithin
Wishing U & Team Zerodha A Very Happy Diwali & Prosperous New Year, Samvat 2071. May the fountain of Prosperity of Zerodha rapidly grow this year with the launch of Pi (with steady improvement of it).
Is it possible to add a very essential & populist feature like DUAL COLOR EMA/MA with Pi (where we can choose two different color for up & down of an EMA separately) which is very good for fast visual trading?
Up-down color changing EMA/MA is easily available with Amibroker, TT, MT4 etc.
Yes, is already on my list of features to be added on Pi. This will be done after the final release though.
Thank you so much, Nithin.
Sir,
Renko can useful only if the user know about the periodicity of brick. Currently I am using metatrader in which I can modify brick size of renko as per my strategy. Kindly add settings feature for price based charts like renko or kagi, if not added.
You can add the periodicity already.
When is the Pi getting released and could be used for trading?
Release in the next couple of weeks hopefully. But we are having people already beta testing/trading on it, will put up the link here next week and you can sign up for it.
I agree with Mr.Sinha
When is “Pi” going to be launched. I would request you to make sure that the platform is stable and reliable and not just stuffed with tons of features. Kindly clarify if “Pi” will have the following features
1) Adding indices as Market watch where once can view the scrips listed in the respective index. For e.g. If I select Nifty , I can start a market watch of Nifty scrips.
2) Position reports: Currently in all your trading platforms, In F&O segment , the profit & losses shown are M2M profits/losses and there is no option of viewing the total profits/losses of the Future contract. Also the Buy/sell price shows the previous day closing price instead of the price at which the order was executed. Please make sure that one can view total profit/loss and the Price at which the order was executed in the Position reports.
1. This won’t be on the first release, but will be soon.
2. Yes, it is already available.
Hi Nithin,
Earlier you said “There is a MQL importer that we are working on, something that can convert MQL to tradescript, but might take a bit. We are also building a bridge from MT4 to Pi”.
Can you please elaborate on it? I entirely depend on MT4 platform to enter into the trade. So I am looking forward to use the MT4 indicators (ex4) in zerodha pi.
Satish, MQL importer will take a bit longer, but the bridge for MT4 will be available soon. How this would work is that, you will have both MT4 and Pi opened on your trading platform. You do all your analysis on MT4 and on your MQL whenever a buy/sell triggers you can give a socket to send the order to. This order hits Pi and then can be executed semi-automated or completely automated (for complete automation, you need to be registered as an authorized person with us and there will be additional cost and processes).
Thank you!
Await for new release.
hello Team,
Happy Diwaly
if one has more than 1 account of family. is there any workaround to fully automated trade in all accounts with 1 NCFM certificate . .
Arti, it is a little tricky to let one person trade on behalf of the other, even if it is the same family. We have had trouble, when people have come back when there were losses saying we had never authorized the other person to trade.
whatever formalities are required from account holders, we are ready to
fulfil.
Dear Nithin,
We were expecting PI by Diwali.
Now that it is not sure to release by Diwali, please allow me to use BETA version and get feel of PI and to provide the feedback whatever I can.
Regards.
Naga Lakshmi
Next week we will be putting out a new release and a form to start testing it out.
Awesome Nithin…
TICK Chart option is still missing… It will be good if this features added…
Prabha, what do you mean by a tick chart? All data vendors and trading platforms in India are 1 second snapshot data, that is 1 tick for every second. Pi is also similar to that.
Tick means = a trade. instead of minutes, no of trade will trigger the next candle in the chart. for example : 200Ticks Means- new candle will appear in the chart after completing 200 trades. which will be very effective on using indicators & avoid the glisters in time based trading… Pls refer the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SoM5vp_TA
Hmm.. Interesting. We could do this in the future, will take a bit of work.
Can you provide a database,in PI, that can store quote of each second and backfill of same for one day atleast.Then it may serve the function of tick
It won’t be possible for now, but we could look at it in the future.
Dear Nithin,
screenshots provided by Hems are very useful. try to provide all these in pi whether in its 1st release or afterward.
Hi,
Can I get the Beta version access please?
I could see that a lot of folks have already got a feel about it!
I’m worse than a cat when it comes to curiosity,
Cheers,
Krishna
:), Next week we will be putting out a new release and a form to start testing it out.
Hallo Nithin Can We Place GTC GTD order on PI ?
No Rajesh, exchanges remove all orders from cache at end of every day.
i to agree with HEMS, it would be a nice feature,
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—-And also the 3rd screen shot where a TRADER can set his risk per trade.
Hi nithin
Indeed the feature mentioned by Hems is very good. I have the same incorporated in my charting application – icharts. even then I have missed the trades especially when the momentum is high due to timing issue as there is a time lag of few seconds in charting application. If this can be added in PI, it would be really great.
Also, is it possible to have overlay of nifty on the charts. For example, if I am viewing TVS motors scrip, I would like to have nifty overlaid on the tvs motors charts. Is it possible? It would enable us to assess the relative strength of the scrip.
Hems/Nithin,
I am trading US/UK indices through UK based one broking company …The same tool which mentioned Hems I already using here..Yes it is AWESOME…..I never used sharekhan…..so i dont know the functions…….but above mentioned option is very good and easy to use……frankly after i use these type of software here then Indian based broking trading platforms very difficult to operate
Another attractive option here is chart size we can minimize and maximize through just scrolling mouse(withthout selecting)
Overlay of a chart is something we will add as a new feature after the final release.
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—-Another screen shot where when entry line is clicked a bracket order gets opened and all the values are automatically filled.
hems, if you don’t mind can u provide your email id
Hello Nithin,
1) VERY VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL TRADERS specially for INTRADAY TRADERS.
I am a fast Intraday trader. Sharekhan has specifically designed with a well known international educational institute ( OTA ) as a partner where they are top traders who trade since 20 years plus and they teach as well. With their years of experience they have suggested Sharekhan to design simple tools which are very effective for intraday traders to trade. Sharekhan has designed tool where there are different coloured lines for Entry , Stop Loss and Target.
When ALL these lines ( Entry, Stop Loss and Target ) are placed on the chart……the Entry Line shows the price at which the entry line is placed ++ The Risk to Reward Ratio,……THE Stop Loss line will show the price of stopp loss line ++ the Risk for that trade AND ……. The Target Line will show the Target Price ++ The Reward amount of the trade.
Now when the Entry ( Yellow Line) is double clicked an automatic bracket order opens and all the vaules of Entry, Stop Loss and Target is automatically filled ALONG with Position size as well whcih depends on the stop loss price and the amount which a trader is ready to take risk for. ****** THATS AWESOME *****…since as a fast intraday trader… i trade on 1 / 3 or 5 minutes chart .
I do not have have to physically see and type all the entry price and then see and then manually type the stop loss price and then again see at the chart and then type the target price in the bracket order…then if my risk per trade is say Rs 200 and my stop loss is Rs 1.50. then i have to manually calculate 200/1.50 is 133 shares i can buy on this trade..AND then go ahead and type the position size in the bracket order ….WHICH CONSUMES TIME..there are many chances that a trader misses his trade…. at times incorrect value is typed…there is a pressure to see and type all the values.
Also there is a setting where a trader can set his per trade risk in % of his capital put for trading. say 1 % per trade or 100 Rs per trade.
**** A FANTASTIC TOOL DESIGNED BY SHAREKHAN ****** .
I have opened a Zerodha Account because of brokerage. My id is RH0432. I was told that this tool can be designed with us on PI.
KInd request if you can design such a tool for the benefit of traders. EVEN Swing and Investor traders can can also benefit for this Unique and Simple Tool.
—I am attaching a screen shot of sharekhan chart where this tool of trading from the chart via lines can be seen.
—-Another screen shot where when entry line is clicked a bracket order gets opened and all the values are automatically filled.
—-And also the 3rd screen shot where a trader can set his risk per trade.
Hope to see this tool for ALL TRADERS with Zerodha.
Thanks Hem, yes we could add this as a new feature after our final release.
The point raised above — manually calculation of SL & Target points when you place bracket order is very valid and its a pain for high frequency manual day trader. Right now in NEST we have ticks and points. Can we have a percentage in PI
Kirrick, what you see on NEST is how it has been approved by the exchange. We are getting a new thing approved.
Hi Nithin,
Happy Diwali.. please release Pi as Diwali Gift 🙂 .
2 Wishlist for Pi
1) Please include Fibonacci Extentions, (i know we have retracement and fans)
2) Bidding for IPOs
Thanks,
Mahesh
Diwali is already here 🙂 , unfortunately won’t be possible. But we will invite more people to start testing this out from next week.
1. Yes, we can have this done once we have fixed everything else.
2. Yep, working on it.
Thank you Nithin, please do invite me too for testing 🙂
Without the Fibo extentions it is impossible to see Gartley, bat or cipher patterns… i will give a shoutout again to you on this as a reminder in a couple of months 🙂
Mahesh
Hi Nithin,
Just wanted to know whether the following features can be implemented in Pi:
1. Ability to place Basket of After Market Orders and Cover Orders.
2. Trading with a single click through Price Ladder – this enables quick decision making and faster execution of orders as done by many Prop traders in US.
3. Algorithmic trading supporting intraday strategies.
1. Basket will take a bit, but cover yes.
2. Working on this, for now you can do this directly from the snapquote. Btw 1 click is still not allowed as there are mandatory bunch of fields exchange asks us to show while placing an order (In India).
3. Yep.
Hallo Nithin Can We Enable Top Gainer / Loser Most Volume For All Segment Nse Bse Cash F/O CDS MCX Earlier Platform ODIN Easy Short Cut Ctrl F10 Shift F10 Keys To OPEN Window But NEST Is Give Top N Scrip And Plus Market Movements That’s Not Comfortable For Active Trader How Do You Set ON PI ?
Rajesh, not in the first release. But we will add this in the future.
sir
Normally we all add lots of scrips in the market watch screen. When a scrip is cutting its high or low in the market watch screen it should be displayed in a separate small window. This facility is available in some broking firms software.
Nitin,
I am yet to have my hands on Pi. Already sent request and looks like i would get access next week.
The two features that are ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT for me are:
1. Ability to place BASKET ORDERS. I place over 100 order each day and there is absolutely no way to place them manually. I just upload the file each day.Can you Pls have this feature incorporated asap.
2. Anywhere on the chart if there is a provision to place ALERT by right clicking or via a short cut key would be awesome. pls have the alert sent via email as well as any mobile phone in the world.
3. Alerts should come even when i am not watching that chart. even when i am not logged in. This will allow us to do our work peacefully with out having ourselves glued to computer.
thanks,
shree.
1. Basket orders on Pi will take a bit longer. The good thing with Pi is that you can use NEST and Pi simultaneously. As in login on NEST place the basket, logout and login to Pi. My guess is that you will be placing basket only once a day.
2. Alerts will take a little longer.
Hi Nitin,
Please have the software setup in both extractable and installable format.
Many times on different Users do not want to install the software . It would be great if we get software in zip format too which can be extracted to use the software.
@nithin…hi nithin. i’ve just joined zerodha. frankly,didn’t like the NEST at all. so i am forced to ask this… when will the pi be available for regular users? is it free of cost or any annual fee?
Vijay, Soon, we are getting a new set of beta testers by next week. Will share the link, you can give it a shot then.
thanks nithin. eagerly waiting for 27th.
Happy Diwali to Zerodha Team !
Can you provide with Pi End of the day report, wherein we can have access of past data of at-least NIFTY & SENSEX (if not all) like closing prices, volumes, RSI numbers, P/E ratio, link to PULSE for News / corporate actions, etc. etc…..
If these are technical indicators that you are looking for, all you have to do is just backtest your strategy and you will get all the past data like RSI, volumes etc. Will run a few posts on how to use these tools soon.
Do u provide Index data or chart in market watch in Pi ( like Nifty cash or Bank nifty cash) ?
Yes presently index data for both Nifty and Banknifty is provided.
Hi Nithin ,
Just found that Pi is using enormous amount of Net bandwidth when compared to Nest .
Attached image shows that Pi uses a lot of Bandwidth , Both the platform ran with same no of scrips , with no charts open and used only as Trading terminal.
Could you please explain why that much of difference in Usage.
Regards ,
Rudhran
Checking this. Can you try closing the news tab on Pi and see what happens.
Yeah NIthin , the report is after closing the News Reader and also removed all the active Feeds to make sure Its not getting the feed.
And of course, Take bow for this mammoth task.
Hello.
I am basically trade based on MA’s. And I don’t see Double EMA & Triple EMA on indicators list. Pls consider adding it.
Regards,
Navaneeth
do you have montly weekly nand daily pivot on pi?
By default no, but we could add this in the future.
Can i participate on the Pi beta testing..on automating the trades based on technical analysis?
I am not a zerodha client currently..but wishing to be..
please send me the deatils to my mail id
Only clients get a client ID which is mandatory to login. So, no not possible if you are not a client.
1)When is PI going to be launched.
2) We were told in October end by call center, then Diwali…. now they are saying something else. Kindly let us know when is PI going to be launched.
Regards.
Hems, we already have over 200 people trading/testing Pi. We will take more people on board with the new release on 27th, will have that link shared here to join the beta. Do put your details in that to start using Pi.
hi, i am eagerly waiting for PI launch..can i be part of beta platform.
hello, nithin,
1. if i login as dealer ,can i script automated trades in Pi for multiple accounts as of family & friends ?
thanks.
Arti, one of those things we stay away as Zerodha is to let 1 person place orders on behalf of others. Yes we will let you automate if you are an authorized person, but only for yourself.
Hallo Nithin
You Said Earlier Super Trend Are Work IT PI So
Can We other AFL Codes Are Put IT & Use With out Amibroker Software ON ZERODHA PI ?
Yes, you should be able to link any AFL from Ami to Pi.
Hi,
I think with IB and Sharekhan the facility to use BO with market order is present. So if you push hard for it, you may get the approval for it the same as well. Maybe there is some server or especial software requirement for it!
Best Regards
Hallo Nithin
Can We Scanning Stock Alpha & Beta Value on PI &
We Are Taken Earlier PULSE Codes Work With PI ?
Yes and Yes
If we are able to use the custom MT4 indicators (ex4, mq4) in Zerodha Pi that will be really great.
Hi,
What happens to i3 now? The execution algos?
Dear Nithin, Thanks and Congratulations for Pi. It is a big leap for u and zerodha. I would like to see lines on the chart, horizontal and vertical, in Pi.
1. horizontal and vertical lines showing time and value.
2. daywise pivot, support, resistance level including historical for study.
Hallo Nithin
What is The Difference Between From Full Automation ZERODHA PI VS OMNESYS API ?
With out Amibroker Platform Software Can We AFL Code try to run it in ZERODHA PI will it work ?
We Are Need GFDL Data & Plugin For Amibroker order Send To ZERODHA PI ?
And Scanners An Group Scanners For Intraday & Historical With own strategies & Custom Indicator Witch Buy/Sell Signal
We Are Got Signal in The charts & Scanner directly Place ORDER To Exchange Single Click OR Automatic ?
Like I just mentioned: If you have strategies on Ami/Meta/anything else, you can in your strategy code give the socket to where the order has to be sent. If it is semi-auto, a buy/sell window pops up and if you are in complete auto, it will get executed automatically. We are doing certain things to simplify and reduce costs on autotrading .
Pleas Give Me Details Scanner directly Place ORDER To Exchange Single Click OR Automatic ?
Yes, we will give details out very soon.
so the bridge doesnt print candles on ami/mt4/ninja… coz it wud put authorised data vendors out of business and would be kind of illegal
all it does is provide buy/sell signals(assuming semi auto method)? how does it work?
will mt4 be blank
becoming an authorised person(in order to automate) requires not only money but an NFCM certification. right?
Vivek, if you have strategies on Ami/Meta/anything else, you can in your strategy code give the socket to where the order has to be sent. If it is semi-auto, a buy/sell window pops up and if you are in complete auto, it will get executed automatically. We are doing certain things to simplify and reduce costs on autotrading .
so ami/mt4/ninja acts more like a functionality addon for pi…..just like firefox addons extend firefox’s functionalities.
and so if someone knows how to talk to(program) ami, the bridge translates that into a language that pi can understand. the bridge is a translator
besides pi will also allow auto trading like never before. thts nice 🙂
Hi Nithin,
any chance to add me as a beta version tester??
I will share on the 27th a link to get on board to test/trade with Pi. We will have a new release by then.
Where can I find the link ?
hI, Kamath
Where is the link.
Dear Nithin,
I would be happy if you can come up with a small bridge were we can connect Pi (terminal trading data) to the Amibroker charting software. This will be useful to a hell no of traders who use Amibroker, so that they can get rid of third party data source which charge for the data at a high price. Another advantage is that we will get live charts as well we can place order from the charts through Amibroker. There should be a facility to backup the charts or automated so that we can get even Daily, weekly, Monthly and historical charts.
Hope your team will work on this and come out with the bridge.
Sonjoe, the bridge is already ready to connect AMi with Pi for order execution – both semi automated and fully automated. That said, we will not be able to provide data from Pi to any platform outside, that will be against exchange rules which says that brokers can provide data only on trading platforms and nothing else.
I think he means something like this. I think its available in India.
http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_ib.html
What happened from 8:34 pm to 8:48 pm today (17th Oct 14), was looking @ crude oil and suddenly everything went blank. There were no candles shown and price action was not even seen in snap quote. Checked in zerodha trader too, it was the same issue
There was a loss of connectivity with the exchange for data, it was for around 5 mins.
Feedback on Pi. I have just started to try it out and it has some amazing features. Currently i found out a few glitches. One is the tick box in toolbar options. I am not able to see the name of the option next to the tick box. I have attached an image. Second one is that the technical indicator drop down is not arranged in alphabetical order and if there is a search option like how we search the script name it will be east to search the indicator.
Thank you.
One more thing is that the order book columns does not have the best fit option and filter order options. Someone have already reported this.
Hi Nithin, It is not good idea keep on changing Contract note format.It creating lot of problem one who maintain trades in accounting software…last three months you guys made lot of changes. My accounting software provider already changed two times…so again i want to request them is not easy especially they are not based in India. Please do the needful in future
Thanks
It was the exchange requirement with the new common contract note regulation. Shouldn’t change any more.
Hi Nitin,
Few more Feedback and suggestions.
1) Technical indicators on charts :- At present i have to manually slide the list box to get my desired indicator, instead if i just type “E” it should list all technical indicators starting with E. as Its quite cumbersome at present to choose my desired indicator.
2) same above concept to be applied for any list box selection in PI
3) At present i could able to see and configure only a single market watch, when would be the facility to configure multiple market watch would be available?
Regards
Venkat
All on our list of things, will take a bit though.
the moment we open random walk index PI will crash.
Will have this checked
I wish PI to replace Amibroker Need completely hence suggesting few things below,
1. I am a multiple time frame trader. I want PI to show 4 charts 10min, 30 min, 60min and EOD as shown in the attached image.
All charts are supposed to change for a given new scrip selected.There is a beautiful option in amibroker->Right Click on chart->Symbol Link option which does this trick.
Please incorporate this in Pi so that I wont need to use Amibroker at all.
2. Amibroker has a Fantastic watch list and Scrip selection panes.Can we have the same in zerodha PI?
3. In amibroker we can navigate between scrips simply by using keyboard arrow keys & home end pg up down buttons which is super convenient for a trader. Can we expect the same in zerodha PI?
4. Amibroker Lacks auto scrip changer facility. I mean for a day trader if the Price charts are change after specific time interval and if a trader can view them one by one say after 15 seconds interval, this would be fantastic. I wish this feature of scrip change to be implemented in zerodha PI
5. Latest metatrader shows at white price level or avg price level you are holding a scrip. This is done by drawing a horizontal line on chart automatically after taking a trade entry. I wish same in zerodha.
6. I wish Line based entry and stoploss entry possible in zerodha.I mean a traders draws a buy level horizontal line and clicking an entry button on the side gives you the relevant order window like buy sell short cover depending upon type of line you have drawn on chart (color based).
7. I wish PI has Market profile Indicator included in standard set of indicators.
8. I wish PI give me last 1 year EOD data at least.
Thanks.
Vishy nice thoughts. I previously requested on your #1 on charts with multiple time frames. That would be a tremendous help if they could put that functionality.
Thanks & sorry for again asking same request made by you about multiple time-frames. There are simply no words to describe the usefulness of this multi timeframe facility in any charting/trading application. I wish Nitin & his team implement only this thing if not the other requests of mine …because of its paramount significance for a day trader like me.
There is an option to open multi timeframes Vishy, just that you have to setup these 4 time frames yourself for now. For now there is no feature to open 4 time frames at the same time for a selected scrip. But that said, you can manually add as many time frames that you want.
I dont mind setting up these 4 timeframe initially, that would be a one time job. but if there be a feature linking them to a single currently selected scrip then that would be awesome thing.That would simply end my all charting requirements from PI.
I echo Vishy’s comments below. It would be helpful linking the charts.
Nitinji If linking one scrip to many charts is not possible or feasible right now then please gives us a Nice Amibroker Bridge with 30-45 days Intraday 1 or 5 min data backfill and 1 year EOD backfill (Automatic if possible). That’s all. We will manage with this.Thanks.
We can’t give data outside of a trading platform as per exchange rules.
OK, then please consider my #1 feature request seriously
1. What is the maximum number of scrips in a Watchlist in Pi ?
2. If we have a strategy in place should we open each scrip’s chart and apply them ?
Instead if we are able to Ctrl+select many scrips in watchlist and apply strategy then it will save time and energy .
Rgds .
1. depends on your system capacity as all the processing will be happening at your end.
2. Yes. Will check if that option is feasible.
IB CHART
For now we will print the ticks we see from 9.15 am, filtering raw data and all is quite tricky and not something that most people will like.
but still data is freak..
but data from IB PLUGIN is quite clean see the chart
How to be a beta tester for PI?
We should have the new release by next week, will announce it on this post and provide link to a form. Filling that up should suffice.
hi
in pi if we an see ask & bid rates in chart`s l
hmm.. we could do it once everything else is done. 🙂
hello sir,
abhi account open kiya to mujhe pi software mil sakta hai kya.
and mai direct chart me se buy/sell one click se kar sakta hu kya.
order dalte waqt its necessary to enter stop loss ot target.
Tejas, Pi is still in beta testing, it will take a few days to go live. But yes, you will get it soon. No not necessary to put SL/target while placing orders.
sir ji,
screen pe order place karne ke bad usse drag karke modify kar sakte hai ya usse edit karna padega???
happy night.
Abhi ke liye, usse edit karna padega. But in the future, we will have the drag option.
thanx sir abhi ke mcx ke liye itna bhi kafi hai…
but eagerly waiting for pi.
have a happy life.
Most of the time it gives “Error: The underlying connection was closed. A connection that was expected to be kept alive was closed by the server” and I am unable to login.
I have even seen workaround for this is, open up Zerodha Trader and then try to open PI keeping zerodha trader open, then it works and automatically Zerodha trader gets closed. Can this be resolved.
Yes, the next release will have this sorted.
Hi,
Congratulations for your effort. I wanted to know that is there will be a facility of API similiar to what IB offers in India where can connect our own built application to PI.
If yes, can you give some timelines for the same.
Thanks
Zerodha User
The bridge that we will provide will help you connect Pi to your custom application. It is not exactly like what IB has, but very similar. The bridge will be out for Ami soon, for your custom application might take a bit.
Hi Nithin,
I am happy to know that you are launching such an advanced application. I thank to your staff and you for such an wonderful experience with Zerodha. I am waiting for Pi.
Nithin – One more thing forgot to ask –
When I am using multi-monitor set up with multiple charts and multiple time frames on my charts –
Have you provided the “linking” of charts so that when I change the symbol, all the related lower time frame charts automatically change to that symbol.
I am sure you have taken care of it but just wanted to confirm. I would like to be a beta tester if you are planning to release.
Thanks in advance.
🙂 No karthik, this will not be possible for now.
Really, that would suck. I am using TradeTiger..having a hard time to punch in the symbols on all lower time frames say, if i am using 5, 15,30, 60, Daily, Weekly, Monthly charts together.
It would be great if you could reconsider that. It would help folks who are using multiple monitors and active day traders.
Nithin – couple of things for you rinsights
(i) If we are developing our own Algo with full automation, can we work with the API you have provided us and use Pi? or is there any other things we need to be thinking about?
(ii) With respect to options chain – will be able to view the option chain with expiry dates in organized manner similar to (thinkorswim or interactive brokers)
(iii) Is the historical data downloadable through API or DDE?
Thanks for your attention.
1. Yes, you can use the bridge for full automation (it is really simple). But for automation, you will need to become an authorized person with us. Check this post. I will have this post updated, the entire process will be a lot more simpler and cheaper on Pi.
Nithin – what about (ii) and (iii)
Hi Nithin – My account is currently getting opened and will be set up with a dealer terminal . My Algo is in the process of completion using C++ and will be going in for mock session during first week of November. Can you please talk about this bridge and what you are referring to? Is this different from the API document your team has provided to me?
2&3 No for now.
Yes this is different from the API document our team has provided. This is quite simple, your application will just have to send orders to the socket that we will provide on Pi. If you are an authorized person, the trades can be automated, if not it will be semi auto.
Thanks Nithin. I will reach out to your team to understand what sockets I need to be designing. Appreciate the insights.
I am wondering why normal line style is not provided for charting? This is better to plot the study lines (with only closing prices) instead of the bars or candles with highs & lows.
We will add it soon.
Nithin,
Backtest facility.
I had asked to load the chart with default chart template set by the user.
This was to verify the how the script works.
You had provided an excellent method by displaying all the data in the graphical mode. However It took me some time because, these where practically hidden at the bottom of the screen.
It would be useful if you can align the panels equally.
Secondly time scale is not displayed. This help us to quickly identify the points.
Chart navigation has to improve a lot.
Hope this helps you.
Yep, the next release has a lot of chart navigation fixes.
hi
I heard that in pi there is indices are seen…
if msci indexes is available in pi.
thank you.
No MSCI indices for now.
Nitin can you add option strategy builder for option for option trading for hedging the positions
We will, but it will take some more time.
The Pi platform looks great. Wanted to use neural network and Genetic Algorithms based implementation since 2 years. Hoping you launch it fast.
1 question:
Every where you mention it will be avialable for all active clients. what exactly is active clients?
My AMO orders were getting cancelled with Rejected by Admin error on 15th Oct around 6.45 PM.
Active client is someone who is trading with us :), we haven’t yet worked on defining this
1) Are Neural networks and Genetic algorithm avialble in the beta version?
If yes I would like to be a beta tester.
2) Can you point to some resources as far as the pi’s version of using the two techniques is concerned?
1. Yes it is available.
2. We will put info on this soon .
Hi,
Really fascinated by all the new features in PI & quite curious to explore them. Thank you for putting up a great terminal guys, although a few suggestions.
1. It would be great to have links on the toolbar which can load lists of all the NFO & BFO contracts of the nearest expiry. Otherwise, it would be very cumbersome to add them manually one by one. Similarly, you could also incorporate such links for sector & index wise list of stocks / F&O contracts.
2. I hope users can save chart templates as well as layouts of their respective windows.
3. It would be wonderful to have shortcut keys for drawing tools such as horizontal & vertical lines on the charts.
4. Crosshair is quite evidently on top of the list of demands & rightly so.
5. It would be great to have a small section in the chart itself to change the time intervals. Or, there could be shortcut keys for each time interval.
6. Is it possible for the ‘Buy’ & ‘Sell’ windows to show the Best Bid & Best Ask prices automatically & then users could simply click on say ‘+’ / ‘-‘ keys so as to change the prices in the multiples of 0.05 or 0.10 (there could be other keys for higher multiples). I am borrowing this idea from US stock exchange terminals which makes placing orders a very simple task. This would eliminate the need to the change the entire price by entering the digits all by yourself. Also, considering, most of us place orders closer to the bid & ask.
7. Are the following indicators present already?
i. ROC
ii. Coppock Curve
iii. Detrended Price Oscillator
iv. Elliot Wave Oscillator
v. ADX
8. Also, it would be very easy to move about in the chart by just scrolling with the mouse to zoom in / out & by simply dragging using the left click of the mouse to move left / right in the chart screen.
hi Nithin, I always find this issue when i have to post some observation in zconnect. I always forced to post the queries in other threads. could you please create/group different categories like Zerodha portal, Trading Tools, Back Office, Please consider this. coming to the issue i like to inform is related to your web portal. I observe only few pages of zerodha.com website is made compatible to mobile devices. After opening the website in mobile and if i want to check the margin required, these pages are not allied properly. On clicking calculate a popup window will show the allowed MIS and NRML lots. This window cannot be scrolled or neither fits the mobile window. so these features are not useable in mobile devices. The same issue exists for span page also. Please do the needful.
Thanks Vinay, we will work on this immediately. On Zconnect, there is different categories for all that you have mentioned. Do check the category box on the right.
1. Zoom in and zoom out should be like amibroker with zoom buttons and horizontal scroll bar or like netdania trade station with mouse scroll to zoom and hand tool to move the chart and not like nest which is really bad.
2. I feel trade from chart should have a line for buy, line for sell with the number/value on top say 7850 and not just small arrows. Because later if I want to see at what price I bought Nifty I should be able to read it from chart and not go to the trade book or order book as it deteriorates the point of chart trading
3. The value must be editable in the buy/sell pop up box as we may not be able to click in the exact place sometimes say I want to buy at 7855 but when I click it shows 7860 if I click little below it shows 7850.
4. Market index box shows when we switch tabs is a sweet touch
5. Removing indicator can be like amibroker as it will be easy
6. We should have the option to add Chart tools in the toolbar like how it is with amibroker. As it will be difficult to every time use the menu dropdown. There is empty space in the vertical left corner and horizontal top right corner below the index box these empty spaces can be put to use.
7. What about the newswire in pi?
8. Can you add world market index data and chart in pi?
9. Can you also add economic calendar?
1. For now you can add RSS feeds of your choice.
2/3. We will work on this in the future.
1. This is already fixed, you can see it on the next release
2. For now, if you left click and hover over the line you see the order price. But yeah, get your point.
3. added on my to do list.
5. We are working on it
6. yep on our list
Mr.Nithin ,
1.Which charting applications will have a bridge with Pi ? ( Metastock , Amibroker, Ninja Trader, MT4 ?)
2.If there is a bridge can the signals created in them be reflected as orders in Pi ?
3. If so do they need manual confirmation ?
1. It is ready for Amibroker. We will have MT4 soon, and then Ninja.
2. Yes.
3. If you are a retail client, yes manual confirmation is required. But we will give you an option to automate as well (you will have to become an authorized person with us for this). We are working on simplifying the process to automate.
Will we be able to push data feeds from terminal to amibroker ? to get RT data ?
🙂 tricky question. If someone knows how to pull data, he can.
Is there a possibility where the user can modify orders by shift the order symbol/line in the chart by dragging??
In the future versions yes.
@NITHIN do you have taken any steps to provide cleaned data for first minute of trading like icharts.like filtering raw data of block deals which take place before market open before you & I can begin to trade.
if data gives better levels and so better results.
For now we will print the ticks we see from 9.15 am, filtering raw data and all is quite tricky and not something that most people will like.
for now software or pi???
hi
can we make our own indicators
Const
IndicatorName = ‘Psychological ‘;
Layout = Separated;
var
Psyho: TLineGraph;
period, i: Integer;
psy1: real;
instr, time_int: string;
LinesColor: TColor;
procedure CreateSettings;
begin
AddSetting(‘candle_period’, ‘Number of candles’, ’12’);
AddSetting(‘instrmnt’, ‘Instrument’, ”);
AddSetting(‘time_interval’, ‘Time interval’, ”);
AddSetting(‘color’, ‘Color’, ‘clBlue’);
AddSetting(‘linescolor’, ‘Lines Color’, ‘clYellow’);
end;
procedure ApplySettings;
begin
Period := StrToInt(GetSetting(‘candle_period’));
Psyho.Color := StrToColor(GetSetting(‘color’));
LinesColor := StrToColor(GetSetting(‘linescolor’));
SetTitle(‘Psychological Line: period = ‘ + GetSetting(‘candle_period’));
Instr:=GetSetting(‘instrmnt’);
time_int:=GetSetting(‘time_interval’);
end;
procedure Init;
begin
Psyho := TLineGraph.Create();
SetYScale(0,100);
end;
procedure Recalculate;
var
i: Integer;
begin
Psyho.Clear;
for i := 0 to SourceGraph.Count – 1 do
begin
Add(i);
end;
end; // Recalculate
function Psy(ValueIndex:Integer):double;
var i:integer;
Ind:integer;
begin
Ind:=0;
for i:=1 to (period) do
if ValueIndex-i-1>0 then
begin
if SourceGraph.CloseValue(ValueIndex-i)>SourceGraph.CloseValue(ValueIndex-i-1) then Ind:=Ind+1;
result:=(Ind/period)*100;
end;
end;
procedure Add(const ValueIndex: Integer);
var LastTime: TDateTime;
begin
Psyho.AddXY(SourceGraph.XValue(ValueIndex)-1, Psy(ValueIndex));
if ValueIndex > SourceGraph.Count-2 then
begin
if (Psy(ValueIndex)>=75) and (Psy(ValueIndex-1)<75) and (SourceGraph.DateTime(ValueIndex)LastTime) then
begin
PlaySound(‘PriceAlert.wav’);
ShowMessage(‘Maybe it is time to sell ‘ + instr + ‘. See ‘ + time_int + ‘ chart’);
LastTime := SourceGraph.DateTime(ValueIndex);
end;
if (Psy(ValueIndex)25) and (SourceGraph.DateTime(ValueIndex)LastTime) then
begin
PlaySound(‘PriceAlert.wav’);
ShowMessage(‘Maybe it is time to buy ‘ + instr + ‘. See ‘ + time_int + ‘ chart’);
LastTime := SourceGraph.DateTime(ValueIndex);
end;
end;
end;
procedure Draw;
var
Height, Y: Integer;
begin
Height := Bottom – Top;
Canvas.Pen.Color := LinesColor;
Y := Bottom – Round(0.25 * Height);
Canvas.Line(Left, Y, Right, Y);
Y := Bottom – Round(0.75 * Height);
Canvas.Line(Left, Y, Right, Y);
end
You can’t make your own indicators on the front end yet, but if you have a code we can build it for you at the backend and incorporate on your front end.
hi
is there KST indicator in pi
ROCMA1 = 10-Period SMA of 10-Period Rate-of-Change
ROCMA2 = 10-Period SMA of 15-Period Rate-of-Change
ROCMA3 = 10-Period SMA of 20-Period Rate-of-Change
ROCMA4 = 15-Period SMA of 30-Period Rate-of-Change
KST Line = (RoCMA1 x 1) + (RoCMA2 x 2) + (RoCMA3 x 3) + (RoCMA4 x 4)
Signal Line = 9-period SMA of KST
Thanks for the code, we don’t have it now and we can add this in the future.
Hello Nitin,
Thanks for this nice software, I am eagerly waiting for this in my hands.
Just few suggestions,
1) Could you please give more brightness as well as multiple color choosing facility for all the indicators as some time it find dull.
2) Could you please have Volume as color coded rather than dull color now, it is not eye pleasing one.
3) I don’t see any section in video for Options like automatic greek calculations, CHGOI, MAX OI, MAX Pain calculation, Option Price calculator etc. I hope you already considered these.
4) Also for alert section, is it possible for me to get offline alerts as SMS etc. if once I code, back test and kept live particular strategy on my software login, later I need not to keep this open all the time?
Thanks.
1. We will give these options in the future in user settings.
2. same as above
3. Yes presently there is no option calculator.
4. We are working on integrating email alerts, yeah you will have to keep this open to get the alert.
When can we expect the PI version..? eagerly waiting for it..:)..If web version can be implemented within 2-3 months time that would be really great..as during office time might not be able to open PI 😉
How much historical EOD data & IEOD data we will get in PI platform. Whether we will be getting market depth window in PI.
Yes marketdepth/snapquote is shown in the video. We are looking at providing upto 50000 candles, so if you are looking at 1 min 50000 candles of 1 min, and if you are looking at 1 hr – 50000 candles of 1 hour.
Nithin, if you guys haven’t started on the web version yet, I’d suggest that you take a look at NetDania’s Netstation. It’s outstanding!
Its great. even the mobile app is great.
I also vote for the range bars.Actually ,at the begining of the project,I have requested for the range bar.
I know that range bar require the tick data and you are providing data of one minute stamp updating at intervel seconds.
But with this data Ninja trader is able to make RANGE BARS ,while Amibroker fail to do so.
The reason behind it is that NT has a data base of CLOSE and it keep close of each second in it and it is equalent to tick data
I think PI can also try that way
Decosta
Dear Nithin ji,
Importing of AFL into Pi would solve most of the traders’s coding, back testing problems and most of the day traders who are looking for a 2020 trading platform where this type of features I think, please look into this video. I too also vote for range bars, I think in this official release these features are going to be added.
Thanks again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed1bsioB4_c
Thanks
Hello Nitin,
in algoZ only semi automated trade was possible, but video of pi looks very promising, if i login as a dealer, would it be possible to cancel or modify a particular order through script (fully automated trade) ?
is this feature available in pi ?
can i be part of this beta testing ?
Yep, fully automated possible on Pi. Will announce on this post when we are ready to get more people on board testing Pi. Should be in the next 10 days.
Dear Nithin ji,
Thanks and congratulations!
I have been waiting for this platform for several months. I appreciate that official launch will take some time but, please allow me to use its testing version at the earliest. I will be really grateful.
Further, I have made requests many times to your colleagues via phone that the new software must have two famous indicators – SUPERTREND and BAR PIVOT.
I hope you will make sure that these two indicators are accommodated in Pi.
Thanks again.
K R ANAND
DK0168
Already on my list of things to do, we will add it soon.
Thanks
How to be a beta tester for PI? I’m interested in becoming one.
We will have more people trying this out by the next release, do keep a tab on this thread.
Can we BUY/SELL from the charts directly? Also, can we place Stop Loss and Target from chart directly?
Yes
Hi Nithin,
1) DO we have CO and BO on Pi
2) Can we have Open High Low and Close details on the chart easily — this will help for fast decision taking on a trade.
3) Can we have setting where i can put my limit to risk per trade .
4) Can we have my personal setting of charts saved as template–which will save time to load the charts all the time.
5) If i mark my with few notes on the 60 minute chart..can that be see on lower time frame charts as well for the same script. This will help for fast decision. ALSO the trend on different times frame s are mostly different. This marking will help me to understand the chart better and take a call on the trade.
6) Kindly allow text and tools marked on X time frame say daily chart to be carry forwarded on smaller time frame.
Thank You.
1. Not now, very soon.
2. Yep
3. No, not for now.
4. Yes.
5/6. Thanks, will check out
Hi Nithin,
I have opened a trading account with Zerodha.
I am a fast intraday trader. With Pi do we have the facility to trade on the chart using bracket order or a cover order.
Since for a bracket order there are 4 things required .. Entry Value, Stop Loss Value, Target Value and also the position size value which is very important as a trader which will be derived by the stop loss value and the amount that i am ready to risk per trade.
I trade on a 1 min or a 3 min chart. And there is very less time to fill all these details. By the time i fill all the details…the price goes away and i miss my trade.
Can we have a facility to trade from the chart with all these values automatically filled in the bracket order. eg.. 3 different coloured lines …for Entry , SL and Target. And on the chart if i click on the entry line ALL the values are filled in automatically.
Also a pre defined risk setting..say i set it for Rs100 or 200 or more. So that the position size also get automatically filled and i manually execute the order.
No brackets from the charts for now.
I also thirsty for these features . Surely these help for scalping trades . Hope zerodha introduce them as quickly as possible .
1.What are the MAs available on Pi ? like ( EMA , WMA , VIDYA , AMA )
2.Please post a list of indicators available in Pi .
3.Is the coding as easy as Easylanguage ?
4.When a buy or sell signal comes let it not repeat til the opposite signal occurs . Amibroker uses “ExRem ” for this .
5.Range bars is a must . Please ensure that .
1. All of them
2. Will do soon
3. Yep
4/5 Thanks
Any update on Range Bars???
Not on Pi, but can you try it on kite.zerodha.com
hey Nitin,
was waiting for launch of PI eagerly. just came to know that its only window base. devastated. I am using mac and am aware many of zerodhites are using mac too.. why so biased for windows. there is no software for mac users. why dont you make PI compatible with mac. I am seriously feeling bad for no initiatives being taken for mac users.Pl work on to benefit all your users.
thanks
Jeeth, unfortunately in India the penetration of MAC in the trading community is very very less and hence most financial platforms in India not compatible with Mac. That said we are also working on our new web based platform which should work on MAC.
Use VMWare Fusion to run windows applications on Mac. But I dunno if one require a plugin from Zerodha to connect to the windows running inside the Mac.
Congrats Nithin on the release and i feel really very happy to be one of the beta users of PI.I have few clarifications still like:
1. Is there any basket/spread orders available on PI ?
2.Payout option on PI?
3. Does the software work on Apple MAC ? Will the mobile application also be updated with the PI release i.e something advanced like PI mobile?
4. We have to use the web margin calculator or will it be synced with PI ? Also the Q back office cause it may help us to know the buy/sell price.
5. Any reason for it being called the Avante grade it’s just that i’m quiet curious 🙂
6.Lastly, the release date of the PI platform.
Cheers team
1. Not for now
2. Yes, but that links you to Q from where you can place a withdrawal
3. No, this is only Windows. We are working on a new html front end for mobile/web.
4. hmm we can give links to SPAN calculator within Pi. Your open positions/demat holdings gets its acquisition price from Q.
5. Avant garde – new and experimental ideas and methods 😉
6 Hopefully before this month end for everyone.
Nithin,
Can we also import MQL (.mq4/.ex4) indicators into Pi ?
would they be as accurate as on MT4?
Thanks a lot!
Best Regards,
Mony
There is a MQL importer that we are working on, something that can convert MQL to tradescript, but might take a bit. We are also building a bridge from MT4 to Pi.
Thanks a ton Nithin !!!
Hi Nithin,
Would you Please make available ‘Market Order’ option for Entries (Buy/Sell) in Bracket Order (BO)!
Thanks.
Regards
Exchanges didn’t approve market orders for this product.
NITIN i need stochastic buy and sell code for backtesting in Pi i.e. when any stock get recovered and %k &%d crosses each other above 40 means buy and when its falling and again %d &%k crosses each other below 80 means sell could you please make it possible
Sujay, check this post , this is already coded. Also coding complex AFL’s on tradescript will be a challenge (the other query that you had posted).
@nitin the code you have mentioned in the link is not working for backtesting i don know if i am missing some thing could you please make some detailed note about stochastic back testing
We are opening up a complete section on http://tradingqna.com/ for coding related queries.
As you said BO and Co will be added Soon..
So can we Place BO directly through Charts?
No, placing BO from charts will not be possible.
Dear, Nitin,
You are very passionate & hardworking CEO of Zerodha. It is good to see a CEO is replying at 2 AM night.
Here is my little suggestion for PI which can gave us a new edge:-
Presently only Interactive Brokers and icharts.in is providing 30 secs time frame data which is very helpful during high volatility & in small range bound situations etc when fast trading is required.
You can think of last 10 days of intraday data (20 days is more than enough) in 30 sec time frames with Pi. As Pi is in house software and highly customizable, you can try to implement 30 sec time frame (later). Then, we can get 90 sec, 150 sec faster time frames too, which can give us little earlier signal than usual 2 min, 3 min charts. This can help some fast day traders and generate more volumes for Zerodha too. Please think of it.
Best Wishes,
Happy Trading.
H.C.
Thanks H.C, this is a little tricky and might take some time. But adding it on our to do list.
Thank you very much.
I didn’t tested pi . it will be helpful if you add a sound alert to pi when internet connection is off because often here net connection problems and lost so many trades and have not enough time to see or monitor market watch
Thanks, putting it on our list of things to do.
@ zerodha take some serious concerns about cleaned data for first minute of trading like icharts. here is some concerns which icharts taken .
Intraday open/high/low does not match with ODIN/Terminal data
Here are the possible reasons why sometimes the Open / High / Low / Close of intraday charts does not match with what you see on ODIN or other broker terminals:
1. Few big trades (block deals) take place before market open before you & I can begin to trade. The quotes from these trades do not come through our data feed, they are only passed on to the terminals (ODIN etc). That is why you will see this difference in Open/High/Low at market open.
2. During the day NSE’s trades management system does few automatic trades throughout the day for “price adjustment”. These trades usually happen during sudden volatile moves or at price extremes. The quotes from these trades also show up only on terminals and do not come through our data feed.
3. Our data feed stops at/around 15:30 hrs. The adjusted closing price is not reflected in our intraday charts. This is the reason why you will see a difference in our closing price (in intraday data).
4. Our EOD charts are updated with the official NSE bhavcopy which includes the quotes from all the above mentioned trades and also the adjusted close. That is why you see a difference in OHLC from EOD vs intraday.
but it’s perplexing why everyone else apart from icharts gives this ‘raw’ NSE data which has block trades etc.After going through many historical charts using 1 min NSE data, my sense is icharts data gives better levels and so better results.
http://www.icharts.in/faqs/icharts-f…inal-data.html
Getting only 2 bars of Nifty Fut and option on 5 min chart at 11:57 am after several attempt of reconcile.
Had sent an email Alpesh, we are doing some changes on the data server and hence you are seeing those 2 bars. Will be okay from tomm.
Hi
have not gone through all comments so not sure if some one already suggested…
1. Not able to draw trendlines during market hours.
2. There is something wrong with bar timings. I use hourly bars but not getting hourly bars properly. Bar close time should be like 9:30 to 10:30 or 9:00 to 10:00. It would be preferable if bar time can be customized as per user’s wish like amibroker. I personally use close of 9:30 to 10:30.
And yes, Pi is a very nice trading terminal. But charting needs lots of improvisations.
We will have a new release with these fixes by next week.
Nitin
My quick feedback/clarifications with PI
1) I find under settings, timeout for PI terminal timeout can be specified to any digits e.g. 999999….does this mean can i keep the terminal active for the whole market hours?
2) i want to know , whether the script based alerts works even when the terminal is locked?
3) I do not find Script based alerts (Buy/Sell Signals) be sent over Email & SMS? This is a vital feature that need to be incorporated for remote users like me.
4) I found some strange behavioiurs as far as AMO orders are concerned
a) first i tried to place an AMO order and later tried to modify, though it is showing that it is modified however i still see the same order with value i entered first time.
b) i then cancelled the AMO order
c) AGain i attempted to modify the cancelled AMO order, to my surprise it allows to modify or cancel once again a cancelled order.
Need to know your Actions/thoughts on this
Regards
Venkat
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. On our list of things to do, but will take a bit.
4. Will have this checked.
Hello Nithin,
Good Morning….just few things for your information before the Pi is released officially. Points noted below:-
1. Please provide historical charts of the indices & scrips for at least 3 yrs. This will help traders to know the direction of the script.
2. I didn’t find any dates on the charts below. LIke Amibroker Pi should provide date wise charts.
3. Do include a cross hair on the charts.
4. Does Expert Adviser of Pi is compatible with MT4 Expert Adviser. Say if i download lots of free expert adviser of MT4 from the net and try to run it in Pi will it work.
4. Do provide a demo trading account permanently for all Zerodha cleints. If ICICI direct can provide why can’t Zerodha?
5. Please get rid of this coding system for strategies and scanners. Come out with a concept called XpertAdvisor unlike we have in ChartNexus charting software. This will help even people who don’t know even coding concepts to create their own strategies and scanners.
6. In the chart itself it would be nice to have buttons of 15, 30, 1hr, 2hr, 4hr, Daily, Weekly & Monthly charts so that we can watch each chart little more faster.
Hope you will take note of this things and come with a more processional Pi before its grand release.
Regards,
Sonjoe Joseph
94972-82865
1. You will get 50,000 candles, so if you look at 1hr you will get for 50,000 hours. 3 years of 1 min intraday data is over 3lk candles, won’t really be practical.
2. Yep makes sense
3. Yep
4. We are working on an MQL importer, will take some time.
5. Yep
6,7: These require some drastic changes. Can’t really give a timeline on this.
Zerodha regarding OHLC window couple of requests
2 Decimal only
Make sure the price should show only upto 2 decimal. 3 decimal not needed makes it difficult to Read. This suggestion is applicable for throughout the application.
Scrip Name Redundant
Also the scrip name is not required. In this case “NIFTY14OCTFUT” is redundant and makes it cumbersome to read the OHLC window.
You can give a option to remove the name here.
X Y Coordinates Optional
X Y coordinates interesting but give user option whether he wants to show it or not.
Indicator Short names and make it optional too
Also for the indicators instead of “Exponential Moving Average” short names like “EMA” will be preferable.
Also what if there are 15 indicators on the chart the tooltip will be too big. A option should be given to the user to show the indicator values or not.
Also Volume is missing
Should show Volume for each candle.
Finally what I am looking for
Pi should allow the user to configure the OHLC window to display as follows.
Open: 7829.00
High: 7834.00
Low: 7825.60
Close: 7826.00
Volume: 13500
Hope not too difficult to change.
Thanks, and yep makes sense.
I want to beta test test the software. Also reconcile should be automatic rather than manual.
Hi Team,
Here is my feedback.
1. Candle formation times.
Why are candles starting at odd times? When I wanted to see 15 min chart, it shows 10:12, or something like that. This gives me a wrong candle stick analysis. In Pi it shows a hanging man, but in NEST it shows a spinning top(I crosschecked with another charting platform traderscockpit).
2. On launching Pi and pressing tab(to go to password), it freezes for a moment.(I know this is required to load the Secure Image). But it kinda feels awkward to have application freezed. In similar scenario Nest kinda transition is OK(where we press “Go” button and then it loads).
3. Spelling mistake in secret questions.
4. Market watch tabs are not available. Is only single Market watch tab planned?
5. It would be better to provide interval changing in chart directly, instead of loading another chart.
Pi looks promising. Hope to see more and more features.
Thanks Kiran
Hello,
Plz provide tick charts and range charts in PI. It will be very useful feature for active traders like me.
Thanks
Will the web version have all these features too ?
Also will they be release together or will the web version take more time ?
Thanks
Web version can’t have all of this, it will take a bit of time though.
Start up Screen stay there can’t do anything,but marketwatch is updating quotes.Have to End task to get Pi Closed.
Sometimes it show error while loading chart.
@nitin i have submit feedback on form do i need to re-submit it again here.
I have seen your feedback there, no need to submit again.
Thanks.
Hi Nithin – Do you PSAR indicator on Pi?
Thanks
Yes available
Feedback for PI:
1. Drawings (trendlines,text etc.) made on higher time-frame should be available on
lower time-frame.
2. Beside being easy to zoom, chart area should also be draggable or movable up/down, left/right.
This would allow us to view nearest support/resistance without zooming in or out.
There could be two ways to do that:
a.) Left/right drag could be assigned to scroll-bar of touch-pad(wheel of mouse),
up/down drag could be assigned to Price axis.
b.) Most convenient way would be to enable chart drag using event: double click and drag.
3. Also provide toolbox for drawable chart objects. Going through the chart menu every time we need to draw something on chart is such hassle.
4. Enable copy-paste on chart objects. In some scenarios it’s more convenient to make a parallel copy of existing trend-line.
5. Already drawn chart drawings/studies disappears on reloading the chart. Those should persist or else there should be a way to save them.
6. We should be able to lock the workspace just like we can on Nest.
7. And also I’m getting a lot of these unhandled exceptions. Users should not be facing them.
8. Chart templates are not working.
Thanks Aman
Hi Nithin,
1. Please include the ‘Range Bars’ charting, its popular and widely used globally!
2. When you include CO orders, could you please also add Trigger % field [which again could be stored in cache so there is no need to type trigger % everytime], this will help ease and cut-down time & labour for placing CO by Intraday Traders on v. faster tf’s … Since Pi is an in-house development, I guess this could be done easier/quicker than with the vendor…
3. Tools/User Preferences for Order Management (as in NEST) missing in Pi, for pre-configuring Orders & other variables/features…..
4. Can you add this excellent feature… ability to place orders when on other screens (like on other charting platforms/screens), by making the quick-order panel detachable from Pi, (like the Market Index window) ?
Regards,
Mony
5. Also, please make available ‘Market Order’ option for Entries (Buy/Sell) in Bracket Order (BO)…
1. Yep, soon.
2. K
3. K
4. Not quick order, but you will be able to do this from the market index box itself that can already be undocked.
Hi Nithin,
Is this trading platform free for all Zerodha account holders? I mean, paying for a trading platform will annoy the Zerodha clients quite a bit.
Thanks
Nick, if you are our active client, it will be free.
Cheers,
Range bars would be of a great use if they are added to the existing bar types offerred. Backtesting capabilities on these different bar types that are being offerred would also be delightful, altough they’re tricky. A walk-forwad analysis functionality is really essential when analyzing strategies. Options strategy analyzer as well as options portfolio simulator would make this an ultimate trading platform.
Range bars we will try to get it on soon. The other features might take a bit.
Hello Nithin,
You have showed arrow marks of buy order and sell order, have not shown stop loss order and will this be a paid software or free
Yep SL also available, it will be free for all our active clients.
Hello Sir,
Can we run semi automated scripts in PI, same as we do in algoz in nestplus.
If yes, then , can we place market orders in the scripts in PI ???
Thanks and regards,
Dhawal
Yes, Pi is quite advanced. Market order is not possible as your triggers will be at a certain price. But what you could do in your strategy is to add a few points to your buy strategy and reduce a few for your sell strategy. So this should act as good as market orders for you.
Hello Nithin……Must accept the features incorporated in PI are simply awesome and new. Especially like the Consensus Report. Wherein you can double check before executing a trade with all the stratgies that worked for you. However am afraid to say, with regards to customizations and ease of operations for beginners, PI is way behind Nest Trader and Trade Tiger. Ofcourse long way to go for PI since its still in Beta Stage. Am comparing it with Trade Tiger coz for charting i mainly used Trade Tiger over nest for 2 Main Reasons, No Supertrend in Nest and also i felt Trade Tiger is more user friendly.
I would like to Sum up the positives from Both Nest and Tradetiger apart from some fresh suggestions, which if you can incorporate would probably make PI the most feature rich and User Friendly Software in India.
Starting with with the easy to implement suggestions
1) Customization in Nest is just about perfect with options to change background and font colour on almost all windows. However if not all, it would be great if you can atleast let people customize Marketwatch Background colour instead of themes as for me, Bright colours are uncomfortable to eyes and Zerodha Black theme does not have the right contrast. Also though you have option of Market Watch Font colour change….For some strange reasons it changed only font colour of some columns for me
2) Nest has the option of adding deafult disclosed quantity and default Product type. Same can be incorporated in PI
3) Order Book, Trade Book and Admin Positions open up in a different Tab in PI. I feel if you can by default set it to open as new window as in Nest or atleast provide an option in settings to open the same as either new window or as Tab by default, it can benefit those who place limits orders and have to frequently modify orders with changing price.
4)Also after closing a Tab. Focus i feel should be set to Market Watch window instead of Immediate Next window
5) Menu Icons bear just the symbols and not names…..Which makes it difficult atleast for those not trading frequently
6) Also would it be possible to Set default order quantity as percentage of Available Margin? If not atleast is it possible to process an order by entering the Total Amount instead of Quantity? Ofcourse same can be applied only with Limit orders.
7) There is no option for fixing Index Bar to the current window only….Currently it appears even if you minimize PI for some other work. We just have option to enable and disable same.
8) Also could not find, write/Link Market Watch Data to excel option. Though not very sure if its already there.
9) Coming to charts, Trade tiger has a feature where a tracker ball or cross-hair is used to determine the Highs, Lows, Open and Close of a candle, and corresponding Values of Volumes, RSI, Moving Averages etc. This becomes pretty handy
10) Supertrend should be included.
11) With current charts, If zoomed in, its very diffcult to move left to Right and vice versa unlike Trade tiger wherein u can just do it by left clicking and moving with mouse. Also zoom in and out can be done just by using “+” and “-” shortcuts.
1. Letting you customize will take us some time. Will check out issue with font color change.
2. Yes, we will get this done.
3. You can move this around, can you check the video above.
4. Hmm..
5. Hmm.
6. No, this won’t be
7. There is, do check out the video above. Instead of using alt+tab, just minimize Pi application using (-)
8. Not there presently.
9. Yes getting crosshair
10. Yep, soon
11. Yep, but this will take some time.
Hi,Nitin
Please provide customizable default order.For example quantity=50%*equity/Price,Order Type=SL etc.Also enabling Pi for excel will help a lot.
Good thing that you are getting feedbacks actively.Keep improving the application.
thanks
things to do
1) if i want to change time interval from 15 min to 10 min means i should switch on to new charts , if you can insert a time tool which can converts bar timings instantly
2) when i open the pi on saturday at 10pm it open but chart was not coming
3) if i put sell order it comes red down arrow, i can suggest you that when order is complete even the arrow should dis-apear and good thing is it tells us about the order completion
4) when i tried to put order of nifty at 8088.50 i could not exactly click on 8088.50 and put order , when i tried for putting order at 8088.50 it comes with a price of 8085.70 and i could not change the price to 8088.50
5) make sure that your pi and charts works 7 days a week, it helps zerodha to make monday turnover more and more bcoz if chart open on sat-sun means we can backtest our strategy and take position on monday
complements
1) best in india , cannot over take till 2020 from others
2) cool and easy and user friendly
this is what i felt about pi and we all support you zerodha great job keep going and cheers
1. A little tricky because of the components we are using for charting, this will take time.
2. Those issues will get sorted soon.
3. Thanks, we will try to implement this.
4. Will check this.
5. yep, it should unless we are running some server maintenance.
Thanks.
If mobile beta version is available. .Then plz let me try it.
Please come out with best mobile app also. As some of the earlier posts also suggested. Its necessary for many of us.. plz do it..
We are working on it, but the priority for now is Pi, so this might take us a bit more time.
Maga, ive seen you guys use the word ‘priority’ a lot. A lot means a lot. Why dont you increase the workforce?
🙂 , technology is not something you can hurry into.
Nitin,
Hope you already saw the doc files I had sent to you on issues and improvements.
Here is another one.
Backtest : This opens a new chart window of a tested scrip even though a chart of the same is already open.
The backtesting is done on certain hypothesis say crossover (sma 8, sma 14). However to know how this works we need to have those indicators too. probably the best way is to define a default chart (with indicators) and load the scrip chart with default template setting or mark the buy sell signal on the already opened chart (if it is open).
So this requires three things (1) save chart as default template (2) load the default template (3) check if the chart of the testing scrip is already open and mark the signals on that chart window or else open a new window with the default template and mark the signals.
Hope you understand. Marking signals on a plain chart is pretty useless.
Secondly as the cursor is moved on a candle, its data should be displayed somewhere (I would prefer the right hand top corner).
Most of these is already present in the nesttrader.
hope you can incorporate some of these in the next update.
Suresh, read your feedback, thanks.
The reason backtest doesn’t open on the same chart is because the backtesting period might be different compared to your chart. I don’t know if I am getting your question right, but on the backtest window you can drag the indicator window that opens in the center onto the price chart. Check this
For now, you will have to left click and move your cursor over a candle to see the OHLC. But by popular request, we will add crosshair soon.
Could you please provide the provision to add Keltner channel indicator on top of the stock chart instead of a separate pane below. It being a channel like Bollinger, its place must be there.
Now being rendered in a different pane it is very difficult to use this indicator
thanks
suresh
Suresh, you can drag the channel from the different pane to the main chart. Left click on the channel, you see a white square box, drag this to the main chart.
Maybe add volatility stop indicator in the indicator toolbox http://www.incrediblecharts.com/indicators/volatility_stops.php
Give us a few more weeks until we release Pi, once done we can add this.
Well looking forward to it.
hi Nitin
i am waiting from long time when official launch please give date range
Hopefully 2 to 4 weeks. You can be one of our beta testers for the next release. Will keep you informed on this blogpost.
Hi Zerodha
Please implement bracket order, with Stop Limit buy/sell for the entry leg also. This is missing in the NEST platform, Also if possible the same feature can be implemented through Amibroker trading bridge will be great. But at least please implement stop limit Bracket orders for the entry leg
Thanks
BO and CO will be on Pi soon.
Will it also have Stop buy or Stop sell for the entry leg?
Yes you can. But for bracket orders you can’t as of now.
PI looks gud waiting for it official launch 🙂
Hi Nitin,Is it possible to place trades on basis of time….im giving an example .At 9:30 am i planned to buy nifty at 10 am and sell at 1pm.i have a strategy based on these timings…If this also includes it will be helpfull…
Unfortunately exchange considers that as an algo (anything that doesn’t mention the price when you are placing an order). We could have a code for you on scripted alert/expert advisor that asks you to buy/sell at your defined time, but that can’t be done automatically.
Looks quite interesting. Good job, team Zerodha.
Just a few questions – is this a windows only platform? Would a version be available say for tabs running on Android or Windows? Will this be a paid software or free for anybody holding a zerodha account? I mentioned a problem faced by a lot of people trading while in office sometime back. The problem with proxy servers etc. Would there be an option to specify the proxy server address?
Thanks
Varun
This is a windows desktop version, this is quite extensive and won’t be possible on a tab/mobile. But we are working on that as well, our in house html5 – web/mobile platform, should help you place trades/use it behind proxy as well.
When will point no. 3 be resolved? I think a lot of people have this problem. If Pi has proxy server support, that’d be awesome! Please make it possible.
Hi Nitin,
I humbly reuest you get the AMO option on mobile trading platform.i travel and thts the onlu option i have.so plz look into it
Yes, we are working on that as well, but will take us some more time.
When we use the Nifty index charts, the preopen also seems to be incorporated in the chart. That is resulting in some silly spikes every day. Its hard to do technical analysis with those spikes. I have attached an image. It would be better if you can filter out the preopen.
Yeah Arcus saw your feedback, a little tricky though to not show this. We will definitely have people jumping on us asking for those ticks :).
I’m not sure if anyone would want the 100-200 points spikes everyday on their charts but its your decision.
I agree with Arcus…..Those pre-market ticks are very misleading and distort the picture….I am not sure if its of any value. Not seen any trader using pre-market ticks on charts for analysis
We will not show the pre-market ticks, what arcus was talking about was the 9.15 AM candle when the market opens.
Hi Nitin this is usman and i have been actively trading with zerodha and PI , and i have wonderful trading experience with it but just wanted to know when will you bring stopploss buying and selling in bracket orders
I was talking about the premarket ticks.
The OHLC for the whole of 10th October for Nifty was 7911.00, 7924.05, 7848.45, 7859.95.
In other words, the high was 7924.05 on 10th October
If you look in the 5 minute Nifty chart for 10th October on the Pi trading platform I posted above, the 9:15 candle also incorporates the pre-market open ticks. The high of the candle is more than 8125.
Nifty never went that high on 10th.
Same goes for the next spike on 13th and everyday.
ahh.. my bad, didn’t get your question correct. Yes, we will be removing all the pre-market ticks, only 9.15am onwards will show up.
The premarket tics are useful, and the levels of spike usually reached within a couple of months. Level of 7623 (mahurat trading premarket level) is due to be touched.
ADX average directional movement index available in pi?
Anand, you can see directional movement system in the indicator dropdown, that is ADX
I am a Zerodha user.
Please make a mobile software, so that Charting like EMA, SMA will be available. cause in office we cant use the trading software.
I hope in PI mobile platform it will be available..
Pi doesn’t have a mobile platform, but we are building a webplatform with decent charting on it which will be mobile adaptable.
how to make multiple “market watch” in pi?
Not possible for now.
Are you talking about “Kite”, Nitin?
gr8 work nithin.im waiting for its launch very soon.
Congratulations for one of the most advance charting tool provided by brokerage. Please add Ichimoku indicator in the Pi which is very useful in analysis.
There are so many hidden charges in Zerodha. Even for auto square-off there is a charge of 24 rupees. Also if the option stock is not sold during last week of expiry, daily they charge 800 rupees for every 1 lakhs rupees of the equivalent future stock value. (say you bought an option stock of 1000 quantity of Glenmark at 50 paise. It costs you 500 rupees only. The future stock price of Glenmark is 800 rupees. So 800×1000=800000 rupes. if you hold the option stock it till expiry, there is a charge of 6400 rupees for last 3 days= 6400×3=19200 rupees. Yes for you purchase of 500 rupees, you have to pay 19200 rupees if it expires)
Hi Team-Zerodha,
What’s going on this?
We have limited money and limited time to invest here and you are making money from ours investment. ARe you providing a service or what? We are having daily basis issues like placing an order at a crucial point where you are making money .
Can you fix these ?
What seems to be the issue, Naveen?