Latest Pi update – 29th Feb 2016

February 29, 2016
Pi

Traders,

We have a latest release of Pi (version 1.0.0.6  2/22/2016), make sure to click on Help>Check to update from within Pi. If you are installing for the first time, download the Pi installation file from here.

Here are some of the latest features

Changing time frame from the same chart

1

Change time frame from the chart directly

Toolbar on every chart

Use the chart toolbar to add indicators, drawing tools, applying templates, and more.

2

Toolbar for every chart

5

Changing scrip from the chart

User settings

User settings window (Ctrl +P) to set default order quantity. You can also use the chart settings window to choose color for volume panel. Volume candle color to be the same as the price candle color.

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User settings – Ctrl +P

Modify orders placed directly on the chart

Double click on the “order from the chart indicator” to modify instead of having to do the same from the order book (F3).

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Modify orders directly on the chart

More…

  • Shortcut key to open chart (Shift + C) and cancel in order book ( Shift +K).
  • Change horizontal and vertical line thickness in chart settings (Ctrl +P).
  • Volume panel show and hide option added on right click on a chart.
  • Mouse scroll to Zoom in and out.

Visit this help doc as a quick reference guide for everything you need to know on Pi. Click here to visit the dedicated blogpost on Pi being run by Tradelab with videos on various hacks.

 

Happy Trading,

Zerodha

Your friendly neighborhood discount brokerage

691 comments

  1. Vikas says:

    Dear Z Team,

    Thanks for update.
    I am die-hard fan of zerodha. Eagarly waiting for new thing and sooner or later your IT team provides that.
    Great work , and great vision …keep up good work and spread financial literacy.

    • Raj says:

      The new update has made the PI terribly SLOW. Please release a quick patch for the performance problem, else it would be hard to use this beauty.

      • Surprising that you are finding it slow. Can you send an email with your contact details to [email protected], we can call and check. My guess is that it has something to do with the installation.

        • mIlind says:

          NItin sir, for user ID DM0369 when trying to open chart in Pi, whole application crashes in windows 7 while it works correctly on win XP. Can u give me some solution?

          • algogeek says:

            For error or crash while opening chart, open c:\zerodha\pi (default file location) and right click on register_chart.bat file and run as administrator. If you are still facing any other error write an email to [email protected] with screenshot of error

        • vinay0817 says:

          hi,
          I am using pi software but on date 15 mar 2016, nifty MAR future chart 1 min candle make at 10:15 AM show wrong low value , candle show 7497.75 but actual low was 7493.25

        • ved parkash says:

          Sir, I have redownload PI , by when I want to login after singhning it shows the error.can you help me .my client id is
          RV-0459 ,I have also complaind to suupport team many time vide ticket no-818790 .they say you can use kite but
          they are not able to remove the fault .please ask any eprt team to do favour .

          thank you

        • prashanth says:

          hi nithin

          today i installed pi softwarwe..after installing i reboot my computer…i forgot to save licence key..
          now i cant open pi …please tell me where to find that key

        • Abhishek chouhan says:

          Their is big mistake because pi chart is not correct its all depending on your pc time not Zerodha database time…that means Market open at 9.15 and your pc time is 9.13 then in your pc market open 2 minute late….and if actual time is 9.12 and your pc time is 9.15 then in your pc market open 3 min. Early….
          That is huge mistake and if u change time of your pc the chart pattern change….
          Means how it is possible…
          What our pc time is not your business if global time is 9.15 so your clock should connect with your database clock…not our pc clock time…
          If u not believe change your pc time and see difference…..

          • Siva says:

            Its a known thing only and yes pi follows system time. Charts will be delayed accordingly, but on market watch ticks will be fine. One has to keep his internet time sync to IST. We are working on it and will take some time to rectify it.

            • Suvidh Chowdhary says:

              what SIVA…..u zerodha ppl advertise being big tech savvy and u can not solve small issues with ur charts ??? both pi and kite having same problem. clients started migrating to other discount brokerages like trade smart online and others..

              • Siva says:

                This July release we have implemented local caching in Pi. Soon we will have auto refill/sync of chart data with the server,then this time issue will be resolved.

        • TANUJ says:

          when we decrease the size of chart window , than the size of order window doesnt reduces , is there a facility for it that i am unknown to

      • jayesh says:

        I have Redownload the PI, but after signing, it is not opening.can you help me-My client id is- RJ1426

        • Venu says:

          Will get someone to call you on Tuesday, since we’re closed tomorrow. In future, it’s best to call on 080-40402020 and speak to one of our Customer care agents who’d be happy to help.

      • ravjee says:

        pi is very slow software, i feel very fear when i want to take a trade , because of uncertainty of pi software

    • Ashok says:

      please update mobile app also

    • shivaprasad says:

      new updates are well n good., but as per my opinion as an regular trader in PI., we need price alert which is not at all thr in pi when we compare other software all other software have an PRICE ALERT which is very much necessary plz next update on price alerts.
      so that we can set an alert for particular price when the price is strike means an pop up menu has to be highlighted to us, so we can take an entry or exit.

    • SANDIP says:

      yes very nice

  2. Udit Khatri says:

    Hi Nitin

    Extentions are missing in Fibbonaci Tools , any plan to add the same..

  3. chandru mehta says:

    No room for me to complain. I have said it before its the best trading chart platform in India. No one come s close to PI & Kite . let anyone prove there’s a better one and i willing to verify their claim.

    all the best team zerodha

  4. nirav shahanand says:

    in this update, i cant open my saved charts of january , thats y i have to install old version.Pls solve this problem

  5. vikas says:

    Hats-off to Zerodha team, one concern, when changing time frame from 5 mins to 15 mins, current candle low or high price is showing inaccurately.

    • Siva says:

      As both the candles are of different time frame OHLC values will be different only for latest candle.

      • vikas says:

        ex: Time frame: 5 mins, 3 candles 10:00 to 10:05, 10:06 to 10:10, 10:11 to 10:15 OHLC values should be equal to 1 candle of 15 mins from 10:00 to 10:15, but if you check between 10:11 to 10:15 by changing the time frame 15 min candle is showing inaccurate values.

  6. SARAVANA PERUMAL D says:

    Nice Zerodha,

    Thanks in advance for all upcoming events from zerodha team

  7. MANU SHARMA says:

    Hi,
    Well the software is great. But as pointed out by Udit Khatri, pi still lacks fib extensions, I am not too sure but I dont think it will be difficult to program when you guys already have fib retracement levels. Also all the fib ret or ext should not be blue, otherwise it becomes difficult to recognize when we overlap two retracements.
    I dont use the indicator ADX, but still it is a very much used indicator. So am I missing it in the dropdown list or is it really not present?
    When can we expect Zerodha to roll out the delivery based trades on leverage? Eagerly waiting for that.
    One more question (Yeah I know a lot of questions…..but these just keep popping and since I have logged in…..I want to clarify my doubts)….When I place an AMO order then does that get placed between 9:00am to 9:08am or at 9:15am.

    • Siva says:

      1) Fib ext is in our to do list and most likely will be available for next release.
      2) ADX indicator is available on pi with title as directional movement system.
      3) Can’t give exact date but will inform all our clients once it is live.
      4) AMO orders are send only at 9.15 am in to the system as stop loss orders are not allowed in preopen session.

      • manu sharma says:

        Thanks for the quick reply to the long list of questions. Sometimes I wonder how come u guyz are able to reply to so many queries everyday so quickly…..great…thanks once again

  8. Chintan Gangar says:

    Colors are not getting changed in Pi chart indicators,
    Also there are several indicators in Kite which are not in Pi chart.
    and 3rd thing inside the Pi charts indicators there are missing content were you cannot edit the period, short, long, etc. like are other having.
    4th under the Daily, weekly, monthly chart of Pi software it shows the closing price of last traded price of the day instead of closing settlement price.
    Too much needed to be modified in Pi chart other than that its ok.

    • siva says:

      While adding indicators one can select required color by clicking on main line color option.
      Soon other indicators will also be added on Pi.
      Can you elaborate on this point?
      Usually after 8.00PM one can see closing settlement prices on daily candles on the same day itself.
      For anymore suggestions or feedback on Pi you can write to [email protected].

  9. Raghunath Awalkar says:

    It is OK…..but there are so many clients …waiting for DATA TABLE ..like Zerodha T
    Thank U

  10. Jobin says:

    Please add the slow stochastic indicator too

  11. Joe says:

    I would be nice to see the underlying profit or loss in the chart once we take position instead of referring to admin position….not sure if it is possible

    Also, I noticed that the system time is integrated with Pi time…what I mean to say at exactly 9.30 PM India time which is 12 AM Singapore time the chart doesn’t move anymore so today I’m going to change my computer system time aligned to India time to check if it working…

  12. SACHINZERODHA says:

    Really Great work…
    But it would be more great if EA generates signal at the “end of candle”

  13. Sumit says:

    ok.now u r terminal is looking best in comparison with other terminal….but still wating for the historical data for the scrip..

    • siva says:

      Historical data is already available on Pi.One can open chart and select intra-day data for up to 6 months for all scrips and daily data for 5 years for liquid NSE scrips. Soon will be providing daily data for all scripts on NSE and BSE.

  14. S.John Britto says:

    After downloading Pi software successfully, it is asking activation code. Where should I get it from?

  15. Ankit says:

    Pls tell me how to add SUPERTREND indiacator in Pi, can’t able to find in new update,as it is available in Kites only..??

  16. aditya says:

    hi
    love kite. much better than previous app.
    can you please add camarilla pivot lines in pi?

  17. vinay says:

    How much need to pay for this Pi software?

  18. Mrinmoy Sen says:

    Hi Nithin,
    I am new in stock market, but not able to find any strategy or the point to begin.
    I have done few trading but not profitable.

    Do you provide any guidance , training through webex or youtube channel.

    Thanks …

  19. Amol G. says:

    Still no comparison and spread charts? 2L/3L/basket orders?

  20. pavan says:

    is it possible to add square off button on chart interface ? most of the traders use charts to TRADE .
    and also money to margin (MTM) value on chart page so that traders have clear idea what they are upto 🙂

  21. manu sharma says:

    Hmmmm….since so many requests are flooding in, I too want to add four requests. At the moment we square off a trade, we cant see the chart as the order book or the admin position takes up the entire screen, so can you do something regarding that…..like if we are able to minimize the order screen a bit while looking at the chart and squaring off…………..i know the following would be definitely in your list, but it will be a lot easier if on pressing an alphabet on the marketwatch the highlight can hop to those stocks starting with that particular alphabet, really explained that second request in am awful way but I hope u get the point. Third is that when we want to remove a series, then it is somewhat cumbersome….u click it…nothing happens….then again click…..then those white blocks come on the screen and we right click and then delete the series……….it should be like when we add a series then that should appear with a check mark with the right click of a mouse and in order to remove we can simply uncheck the series. Fourth is that when we add like say macd and a moving average, then if i open any other stock chart then macd and the simple moving average should already be present and I dont have to add them again.

    • 1. You can arrange your screens on Pi in such a way that the order window strip is at the bottom. Check this image and make sure to look at this post.
      2.To add/remove an indicator, click on indicator and hit the delete button on your keyboard. But I get your point, this can be improved.
      3. You can add all indicators and save it as template. You can then open any chart and apply this saved template.

  22. Firstly I am happy to see a good change in the late update that the SL trigger price can now be changed using up/down key. This is a big help in order entry and updates.

    It would be nice to make PI more user friendly by allowing “paste” in the order entry screen for “Price” and “Trigger Price” fields. This can speed up the order update process while keeping away fat finger errors. It would also be nicer if PI is keyboard friendly. e.g. On the AMO I need 10 key strokes in order to change the Order Type when the fields is right next to the Qty field. That’s because Tab and Shift-Tab keys do not move the cursor in the right sequence.

    One small irritant though with PI updates. Every time I install PI, my user settings are overwritten and I have to reset them all over again. Particularly I need to change the following:

    1. Order Window
    2. Sound Alerts
    3. Reset DeActivatePiLockFlag in userSettings.xml to True to avoid PI getting locked every 10 minutes.

    Feels like an irritant when the updates are frequent like two in a week’s time. I would like these settings to be preserved in future updates.

    Thanks

  23. Also noticed that the latest update lacks version information. So the PI version stays at 1.0.0.6 (02/22/2016) before and after the update. That may cause problems for customers and support engineers in reporting and resolving technical issues.

  24. Prasanth Nambiar says:

    Hi Kamath,
    I have recently started my journey with Zerodha, feeling great so far. I know you are consistently trying to reach the expectation of clients which I have to appreciate very much, and I didn’t see this with other companies. The look of PI alone is so different from other broker’s terminals. Though many options are superior with PI I would like to make couple of suggestions to improve
    1) Please have a Market analysis window (one like in IIFL terminal, with High n low for the particular day)
    2) Multiple market Watch.
    3) I don’t see a line of over bought and over sold in any of the indicator. This would save a lot of time for somebody who uses terminal for whole day.
    4) The cross hair in your web version is much better than PI, I would request you to implement the same in PI as well.

    These I believe are minor changes but can improve the appeal to a great level. I would really appreciate if you guys can implement this.

    Thanks in advance.

  25. Rohit says:

    Hi,

    Please try to increase the data of commodities in WEEKLY charts in Kite as they still do not have as many months of data as Nifty etc. has.

    If its already in process, kindly advise the time frame in which it will be provided.

    Thanks

  26. Paras Katoch says:

    Looks good. Waiting for you to guys to match the level of charts to Tradingview style

  27. Satish shetty says:

    I genuinly feel…..if you can work on getting the ichimoku indicator on board, your platform will be totally complete . also in fib retracement if you can make additional levels like 0.764, 1.18 , 1.27, 1.618 it will be of great help as we can get total picture of fib retracement & fib extension in one indicator it self.

    Thanks in advance

  28. Manish Astral says:

    Finally the much anticipated release of Pi with fixes is here. So far the biggest and the most vital improvement is the ability to quickly change the time frame directly from the charts. This is a very important feature which is implemented nicely in Pi now. But there is another equally important feature which is missing right now, is that the trendlines, rectangles, horizontal lines drawn on a particular TF should be visible from all the time frames. In this way a trader can quickly mark the desired zones and levels on a HTF and view those levels in details on the LTF without having to redraw the same levels on the LTF.

    Also the design change of floating the toolbar dock is a nice idea, esp now that it can be moved on top of the window to the left of CDS/Normal Market Close selection menu. This increases the viewing space which is great.

    Apart from these most visible changes, Pi seems to be much faster, smoother now. Esp the loading of charts, its almost instantaneous. But again i would like press my request about the overhaul of the drawing tools again. For the upcoming releases please look to improve the drawing tools which still needs the ability to change the attribute( color, thickness, type, cloning, translucency, etc) directly from the chart without having to open the chart setting window , text tools should be fully editable ( meaning the ability to change color, size, editable, cloning, etc). These are the only things lacking in Pi, to make the charting platform complete.

    Anyways , thanks a lot for this. Really appreciate the work you guys are doing to improve the overall trading environment here in India. Keep it up.

  29. Manish Astral says:

    Also i would like to add that mouse wheel scrolling now zooms in and out the chart. Which is preferable for some trader of course. But i really need to scroll the charts 1 bar by bar without skipping any bars. Right now the left and the right arrow does scroll from left to right but its skipping bars you know. Like each left or right key presses is moving the chart more than 1 bars at a time. This is disruptive for backtesting purposes where i need to actually scroll the charts 1 bar at a time. Just like it was before, where you could scroll the charts bar by bar using the mouse wheel. Could you please do something about this. This is really needed.

  30. Trivendra Shama says:

    Hi Nitin

    I got message user cancelled updation. I just cliked on check updation in PI & got this message while updation was in process

    Kindly arrange to send steps to be followed fro updation.

    • Siva says:

      Open Pi, select check for updates under help menu and then select to update.
      It will take few minutes and once it is completed it will say patch is applied successfully.
      Relogin again and to confirm if it is updated or not goto help menu and click on About Pi,it should show date as 02/22/2016.

  31. Giris p says:

    Hi,
    There used to be a feature of Custom Columns in Market watch in Nest Trader. Seems to be missing in PI version.
    Any plan to put it back?
    Is there any alternative way to achieve this in Pi?

    Thanks!

  32. ATUL DOSHI says:

    Hi Nitin Sir,
    You Pi software is great and you are adding more features day by day. But there is one problem with data. The data is not accurate . sometimes whenever there is wild movement in prices it misses some price tics in high or low. Eg. today tat steel made a high of 269.5 in first 5 min candle but pi chart is showing high of 269.05 during same time period thus missing 9 tics or 45 paise. For accurate analysis one needs accurate data. Please look into this matter and rectify this problem at the earliest.
    Thanks

  33. rajesh says:

    HI,

    Can we have a function , where one can jump to next chart by pressing a single or combination keys (from the market watch), or can change scrip by inserting name in already open chart.

    2. software gets hanged and shut downs itself .

    3. Waiting for ST (super trend) oscillator.

    4. can we have market watch of all the scrip in future list (spot charts).

    Thank you.

    • Siva says:

      1) Option is already available, click on first icon on chart tool bar and change to required scrip.
      2) No issue as such ,if you face that again please write to [email protected] as it might have to do with your system.
      3) Will add it soon.
      4) One can goto file menu,predefined workspaces and add according to spot indices at one shot.

      • rajesh says:

        1) yes option is there , but can you make some short cut for search scrip . so we dont have to use mouse every time. like pressing insert button will open the box of search scrip and then by entering the scrip name charts will open.

  34. PANKAJ KUMAR GUPTA says:

    WHEN OPENTREDE IS LAUNCHING?

  35. ShreyaDR says:

    Thanx for the Pi update. but why Pi and Kite could not be a substitute for each other?

    Kite has many more indicators , personally i use supertrend, ATR stop loss etc. , Chart type like Range bars , kite has sidebar for watchlist……which are not available on Pi.

    Pi has BO, CO, buy here, Sell here options which Kite doesn’t have.

    Though you have allowed changing time frame from the same window in Pi, it is not seamless like Kite. Kite has monthly. weekly, Daily charts option too. in Pi we have to select Minutely, Hourly and daily chart time frame separately.

    It is very difficult for traders to keep on checking Pi and Kite simultaneously for entry & exit signals and your system doesn’t allow it do so by logging in both at once.

    I request you to make one full-proof system preferably Kite ( coz you only need to add BO, CO, buy here, Sell here options)and then keep on experimenting on others platforms.

  36. john says:

    hi Nithin,

    cheers,dont u think that option chains are very useful for index traders,preferably like the one got in this link – http://www.moneycontrol.com/stocks/fno/view_option_chain.php?ind_id=9&sel_exp_date=%5Bobject%20HTMLCollection%5D
    i mean with green and red changes in oi live etc, I am not able to find this in pi(if its already there).Thank you.

    john.

  37. Raghav says:

    pi for mac????when??

  38. SWAPNIL M. says:

    HI SIR ,

    ZERODHA IS ROCK N ROLL ALWAYS.

    but why Pi and Kite could not be a substitute for each other?

    Kite has many more indicators , patterns i use gartlEy, SUPERTREND 4 stop loss etc. , Chart type like Range bars , kite has sidebar for watchlist……which are not available on Pi.

    may be one day IN FUTURE PI AND KITE FUSION ( HYBRID) VERSION CHANGE THE HISTORY OF INDIAN STOCK MARKET.

  39. db1043 says:

    I am unable to install PI in my laptop.I am having OS windows 7 ultimate version 6.1.How can i do that please help me out.Also can i do commodities with that or not..

    Regards
    Bikash

  40. nagaraja sl says:

    Mr. nithin,

    Admin position in pi will not show proper position when trade is converted into MIS to Normal and vice versa and leads to confusion at the end of the day when you trade more. To know the correct position one needs to log out from pi and again re login, it takes longer time also to re login by that time we will miss the bus. Pl fix the problem.

  41. Rajesh says:

    Hi Nithin,
    after applying template, color of the volume bars in volume panel shows red for both up bars and down bars.

  42. Pradeepan says:

    Hi Zerodha, you are doing an exceptional job to support your clients. I do really appreciate and thank you all for that. I personally have some requests which, once included in Pi, would help me migrate to Pi.
    1. Humbly request you to add weekly, monthly and yearly pivot indicators.
    2. Please include the feature to edit the Horizontal line in the chart thus we are able to move it wherever we want. Currently it is unmovable.
    3. Currently we are unable to move the chart back and forth by scrolling the mouse (now it zooms in and zooms out). Would it be possible for you to include that feature.
    Once again thank you very much for all your help.
    God bless you all.
    Regards,
    Pradeepan.

  43. Siva says:

    great improvement in charting user interface, zoom in and out is smooth.
    Can you add
    1.good till date order
    2.Bracket order for selling EQ in holdings ie book profit and stop-loss order
    3.Leverage for buying EQ delivery (Eg. I have Rs.10,000 in account and place orders for 5 different stocks where margin is 20% for each stock, so when my order gets executed I will bring in the money for that stock in this case Rs.8,000 for one stock.

    for these three features I have moved to Sharekhan if you can bring in these three features I will be happy to come back here.

  44. Kishore VNVV says:

    Thank you for bringing out this Update and making Pi very user-friendly. It’s nice. Hope to have many more keeping clients in view.

  45. nikunj says:

    after pi update …. chart not open … error seen … and every time login batch file chart run …. plz help me ….

    • algogeek says:

      the issue because of chart registry is getting deleted in your operating system, the solution is you can keep the batch file in startup folder. or you can disable unwanted startup program, if you are facing any difficulty in fixing it you can write an email to [email protected] , zerodha team will contact you and will fix it permanently.

  46. Shiren says:

    Hi Zerodha
    Thank you for the new version. Is it possible to add EMA of RSI on the chart itself. Because it is possible to add in code but we can not view on the chart.

    • Siva says:

      For time being one can follow the below steps to add EMA on to RSI.
      1) Select EMA, use dropdown of source and select RSI as source and then apply EMA.
      2) After that select EMA and drag it on to RSI.

  47. Thyagaraja k says:

    Hi Nitin,
    Thanks for the system you have given us… Please make sure the kite is of with latest technology updated whichever comes in market, because we are employees of some other company can work only on platform, and can’t install software like pie, metatrader, Ami etc. Etc.. I hope you understand the things..

  48. Abhijit says:

    Dear Nitin, Thanks for your reply. I am enclosing a screenshot of both softwares for your persual. As you can see it is almost impossible to notice the market movement in the Pi indices box. I have also included indices in the marketwatch as per your suggestion but again, it is easier to track the difference of the indices in numbers rather than percentage. ( for example :Nifty -20 is more easier to understand than Nifty down by 0.2% )

    So my humble suggestion is, like the Nest trader, the choice to change the font size, type of indices box should be given to the user in Pi too.

    Dear Nitin, please refer my earlier comments to you (http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/pi-tradezerodha/user-settings-pi) regarding option to be given to the user to change the font of the market watch. I am somewhat disappointed to see no action has been taken in this regard.

    Regards,
    Abhijit

    • Siva says:

      On Pi one can see index movements both interms of points and % and the colour represents the last updated tick.
      One can also change font on market wartch.
      Use ctrl+p, market watch, click on change font and apply required font.

  49. Abhijit says:

    My screenshot for your persual.

  50. chetan says:

    i have a few suggestions,
    1) we cannot expand and contract the chart vertically. we can do it horizontally but not vertically. please consider to implement this.
    2) i can’t place trades by pressing F1 or F2 on a popout chart window.
    3) the grid colour is not saved. we have to change it to our desired colour every time we open pi.

    i had raised these suggestions here few days back. i thought the developers will monitor this page, so i posted again. i have one more suggestion regarding the bigger EMA occupying the whole chart which can be read here http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/pi-tradezerodha/market-watch-trading-screen#comment-80931

  51. Bindumadhavi says:

    Thanks Nitin,
    Changing Time Frame in chart is excellent features added…
    I am looking for Volume Weighted Moving average Indicator ( VWMA ) , did not find in list…
    Can you please add this indicator also .
    Is there any Indicator similar to VWMA..

  52. ashok says:

    can i get nifty spot chart like on nest chart/ if yes how to get it with all indicators of NF charts.

    • Siva says:

      One can select nse- Indices in place of eq and select required index and add on to market watch.
      Upon that use shift+c to open chart.

  53. stock says:

    hI Nitin,

    Please do some user friendly alert facility in PI….present option not suitable for us….I appreciate if you provide details youtube video about alert facility..I am sure most of the investors using that facility

  54. Jayesh says:

    Hi Nithin,
    I have some serious issues wrt SL-M orders being executed in weird ways…

    See below my trades for Buy Nifty MAR 7100PE …

    1. I’d placed the Sell SL-M way back at 41.8 (trigger) and was observing the snap quote when it was trading/displaying best 5 prices were all above >44…

    but, suddenly the SL got triggered and I was sold at 41.5 … at time : 01:00:12 hrs…

    Even if you see the screenshot of the chart for the scrip at that time the lowest value shown on the relevant candle is 42.8!!

    2. Same thing happened with the same scrip earlier at 12:33:48 hrs. when my SL-M (set at 45.8) was trigerred and sold at 45…. though far off than snap quote prices and also the chart too is showing the relevant candle low at that time as 43.8!!

    Similar instances have happed with me with other scrips, as well …

    How can this be?? I am seeing that the SL-M orders though far-off than the prices that are being traded (snap quote) are getting trigerred, as if someone knew about my SL-level… This feels serious!!

    Can you pls resolve/explain the whole thing?

  55. Jayesh says:

    (contd/-) from above post..

    Here is screenshot for 01:00 hrs. You can cross check at yr end with yr chart as well… The low for that candle is 43.7, but I was filled at 41.5!!!

  56. BinduMadhavi says:

    If possible pls add VWMA, Slow Stochastic and Fast Stochastic Indicators

  57. MANU SHARMA says:

    Hi,
    After the update, the sensex is stuck at 24,441 at top right corner. It is not showing any movement.

  58. Vivek says:

    How to see snapquotes of multiple scripts in Pi?
    If it’s not available, what are the options to view multiple snapquotes ?

    • Siva says:

      As of now one can view only one sanp quote on Pi, but if possible will try to give option to view multiple snap quotes on Pi soon.

      • Vivek says:

        Thank you so much for these efforts.
        If there is any other alternative to watch till the time this feature get added in Pi ?

  59. Yogesh Poddar says:

    Hello Nithin,

    I have joined Zerodha just recently and mainly trade Options and associated strategies related to it.
    PI is an excellent platform. The look and feel is nice, and navigation to various functions is Lucid. As you know, Options account for sizeable volume on the exchange owing to the fact that more and more participants are realizing the power of Options in terms of hedging and risk control.

    I have a wish list of some important features to be incorporated in Pi keeping in mind Options trading :

    1. 2L, 3L, Basket order feature is an absolute crucial function missing in Pi
    2. There should be columns showing IV, Delta, Theta, Gamma, Vega for Options in the market watch.
    3. A Price Alert feature is most desirable where a trader can set a level and when the market reaches that level, a sound alert or alarm goes off. So no need of watching the screen continously.

    Hope you acknowledge these and would get it incorporated in Pi on priority and at the earliest. God Bless

  60. Prasanth Nambiar says:

    Hi Nithin,
    I have recently got associated with Zerodha . The experience is overwhelming. Though many options are superior in PI, I would like to make couple of suggestions to improve.

    I would like to give a competition for KITE and PI, Let’s see who the winner is.

    KITE PI
    *Multiple Market Watch Single market Watch
    *Overbought and over sold indicator No indicator
    *Numerous study Indicators Limited
    *The cross hair is User friendly Data box is difficult to track and make a note of

    Please enable logging to KITE and PI simultaneously. These changes can improve the appeal of PI to a great level. I would really appreciate if your techies can implement this. I like using PI these will make PI impossible to trade without.

    • Siva says:

      At a time one can login to one platform only according to regulators, we can’t do anything on that but will try to add mentioned features on pi soon.

  61. sanjay das says:

    I am using latest PI for last 2 day trades. but it gets stuck in mid of session every time . when we r a bit extra active with multiple charts & places trade orders . so where can i find the lik for the previous pi version ? i think i am not ready for this new unstable version.

  62. Jayesh says:

    Hi Zerodha,
    How do we place a SL for an open position??

    Don’t we have a simple facility of placing a SL order for open positions thru Trade book tab or Admin Tab? I am surprised noone at your side has felt to provide this simple/critical thing for trading.. Square-off is there but no SL!!

    This is causing lot of distress while trading mulitiple positions…

    Hope this functional aspect is provided soon.. to make our lives simpler for trading thru Pi.

    • star says:

      We are working on this and will give this option for next release.

      • Jayesh says:

        Hi Star,

        Are you from Zerodha and authorized to give answers to our queries?
        (I think, specific name of the support team member would have been better)

        If yes, then I look forward to the solution and when is the next release of Pi planned??

  63. deepak says:

    i dont know whether this is the right place to ask this question
    i searched over net but dint get the way darvas box is shown in our pi.
    what are the trading rules for darvas box, or pl give link for any explanation of our darvas box.
    thnx.

  64. Arun says:

    Hi Nithin – Appreciate your effort and direct connect with the users.
    No related to Pi but I am having issue with the Zerodha Q dashboard it doesn’t show me correct the cash balance or correct equity holding and margin blocked in Dashboard. I have created numerous ticket and everytime I receive mail saying we fixed and it works for that day and again same issue. The issue exist even if I try from different browser, laptop or region (via VPN) so doesn’t look like cache issue but something at your end where the job to load the data is not working fine or missing my record. I would request you to look into this with your tech team as this makes your Q unreliable from technology point of view appreciate any help here. My ID : DA0223 Also attaching today’s screenshot which is incorrect.

  65. LATESH NARULA says:

    Pi trading software should incorporate following things for sure :

    1. Gann Fan with 1/1 , 1/2 , 1/3 etc angles . (the one u have incorporated is very poor (sub-standard) )

    2. In the market watch, you should incorporate Open Interest in Percentage form instead of total Open Interest , this would help in better understanding .

    3. Pi should incorporate Supertrend also , else one has to use Kite .. nd then log out the same .. and then login to Pi ..
    this happens with me … because I use Artificial Intelligence , which only available in Pi .

    4. Screener should be incorporated to screen all scrips available on market watch simultaneously , so that instead of coding one scrip … we could back test the all the scrips available on Market watch .

    5. You guys need to adjust the corporate actions in the Charts ..
    for eg : you just chck out the Infosys (Infy ) chart of 12 months … you will know the difference .. there are few more examples : motherson sumi , ajanta pharma , bata india etc ..

    DUE to this SMAs and EMAs will be calculated wrongly ..

  66. chandru mehta says:

    my sincere suggestion for Pi or Kite is to see if you can add new on-line scanners or alerts which are would help traders during trading hours to see losers & gainers / stocks with new 52 week high / new 52 week lows. It could provide opportunities to earn more in trading.

  67. ATUL DOSHI says:

    DEAR NITIN,
    PLease, also add price based alerts in PI. eg. if reliance more than or equal to 1015 . Alert should be with pop up and sound and alerts should remain in the system till it gets cancelled by user.

  68. Ramesh says:

    Nitin,
    Supertrend would be very useful if incorporated in pi.

  69. vinesh kumar says:

    nithin ji
    some features are still missing in our Pi , while in a very volatile market order cancellation/modification should be fast , and it should be like zerodha trader ie – F3( pop out order window )> shift+f2/shift+f3 (ordermodify/order cancell).
    order and trade windows should pop out as default and not open as new tab window for ease and convinent
    Pi should be keyboard friendly
    thanks

  70. Karunakarababu says:

    Pi Stopped working suddenly

    Getting Error ” Unable to connect to Remote Server “

  71. LATESH NARULA says:

    SIR ,

    plz incorporate a line (closing price basis ) chart and a mountain chart too ..

  72. rajesh gangil says:

    hi zerotha,
    this is rajesh gangil trading id-MPDR4630,asking for my password reset for several days and no one is replying.my email is [email protected]

  73. thulasee says:

    Hi,

    In Kite (charts) what is the maximum historical data which we can see for Nifty charts? Is it only for one year or more? Can we have 5 years historical data for Nifty Charts in Kite. If so where should I select the same in settings.

    Regards,
    Thulasee Ram

  74. vinesh kumar says:

    sir
    Pi is using more cpu ( more resources) compared to previous versions , and its action become jerky type when ever there is volitlity in the market . my laptop heats up and showing eleveted reading of core temperature ,since this wednesday ,when i update Pi to latest release . please lookout the problem .
    thanks

  75. rajesh gangil says:

    hi zerotha,
    i have already sent massage to reset password for trade for DR4630 thro my regd. email id but no reply from ur side.

  76. sai says:

    Changing time frame freezes price updates in my PI charts. Is there any fix?

  77. chandru mehta says:

    trading from the charts

    a) on placing a buy order from the charts above the candle there’s a SL-M option , is it possible that we can place own value for stop loss there . The reason being in a volatile market my target price to sell above could be achieved later and not immediately. Maybe i could be wrong and maybe i could be right with my trend study.

    But If i am constantly on the screen i can always correct in between.For those who are not always around the existing system seems fine . The same goes for placing a sell order from the charts .

    Do you think this can be explored .Does this make sense?

    b) I had previously suggested to have a floating order placing window. Currently once we place a buy order in intra-day we have to go back to market watch and place a sell order . this is time consuming . Is it possible to have a order window that stays floating and does not retract. . This would be helpful in scalping .

    This is just a suggesting for the future if possible.

    • Siva says:

      a) One can modify a SL-M order placed from chart by double clicking on the arrow itself from chart and can give any price.
      b) Point is noted, but as of now one can also invoke any type of order window from charts itself using same functional keys.

  78. DA6168 says:

    Hi Nitin,

    I’m facing issues with SMAs and PSAR when RENKO chart is used. SMAs & PSAR are not plotted correctly in Pi when RENKO charts are used. Same SMA & PSAR are correctly getting plotted in Kite though.

    Kindly have a look at the attached screen shot.

    Same SMA & PSAR with RENKO are p
    Regards,
    Ashish Sethi

    • DA6168 says:

      In Kite its plotting correctly.

      • Siva says:

        They are forming correctly only on Pi also but the representation is not as good as kite. But will try to give the same look as in kite.

        • muthu says:

          Hi Siva,

          Its regarding the indicators on Renko charts in Pi. Whether it is plotting correctly or representation is not correct, but there is a bug. None of the indicators are smooth. MACD, RSI, STOCH etc and all looking very bad.. Kindly correct ASAP.

          Regards
          MS

  79. Nilesh.naik says:

    Sir
    please provide display Sensex & nifty price with up & down with difference & %age which display on front page on TOP In kite which indicate market movement how much.
    currently no indication of nifty movement track.

  80. ratan says:

    Dear Nitin,
    1. Pi is there for windows.
    2. In Mac we cannot use Pi , generally a person uses Mac he uses iPhone also so iPhone users can’t use kite app also as it is designed for android OS.
    3. We cannot place BO because of which we are facing lot of problems . As of now in kite after order execution once target or SL is hit then we got to cancel SL or target order for which we need to keep on checking on net which is not feasible.
    4. We are eagerly waiting since last 3-4 months but nothing has been done for betterment of mac and iOS users.
    5. Its genuine request , pizzz atleast launch kite app for iPhone users so that we can use BO facility.
    6. Rest is upto you as such if it has not been done in last three months then it may take three years alsoooooo. Kindly guide your IT team accordingly.
    Thankyou.

  81. sony says:

    hi Nithin,

    v need a chart showing option price,implied volatility,oi,volume for various strike prices on a live intraday basis to study their changes,any plans to do this??Thank you.

    sony.

  82. arun says:

    Hey,

    There are two small annoying issues in Kite.

    First, the input box on charts where we enter scrip name acts like a dropdown box. It does not suggest any scrip as we type but just gives a dropdown which we need to select. Now the issue is, on mobile for every scroll to change the scrip, the keyboard app is triggered which very annoying. So, if you could either make it into true input box or a drop down box it will be very helpful.
    Secondly, there is a junk candle where O=H=L=C created after market whenever, i login. And new candle is created after regular interval that is equal to the time frame selected.
    As you can see from the screenshot, it is a one hour chart with a candle formed for today(sunday). This causes the issues in post market analysis as it distorts the indicators values.

  83. Abhisek Paul says:

    Hi Nithin,
    I had sent a mail to the tech team regarding addition of Super Trend Indicator in PI, and I was promised that this would be done in the next update. Please can anyone from the ZTeam look into it and at least give an ETA for including Super Trend.
    Thanks.
    Abhisek (RA8014)

  84. vishyvishy says:

    I wish there will be chart changing facility in PI and Kite like it is in Amibroker or IQbroker.

  85. tarak says:

    Hi Nithin
    Can you please provide a virtual a/c along with the regular a/c? eg.. if the ID is DT1234 then virtual a/c could be DT1234_virtual. By practicing in a virtual a/c but with real tools and charts and real data, one could practice the strategies (similar to symphony presto) (will be worth even if zerodha charges)

  86. PS0745 says:

    Hello,

    I am Option Seller. I like to compare the current IV wrt to the historical IV in percentile to deploy an appropriate strategy.
    Is it possible for you to provide historical IV of the underlying in graphical form.
    NSE published daily volatility, can that be used to create such a graph.

    Thanks,
    Salil

  87. Dharmateja says:

    Respected Nitin,

    My user Id is DD0042. Really PI is very good trading software. I am femiliar with Metastock, Amibroker, Metatrader etc., Eventhough i am really satisfied with PI, i.e Especially trading from chart. From my point of view Bracket order without SL-M fecility is useless. If it is possible to incorporate SL-M fecility in Bracket order it’s a great advance for traders (your customers). Further i really felt the below 3 points are very much important for chart traders. Point No.1 and 3 is very very important from my perspective. Kindly keep 1 and 3 modifications on your top priority list of modifications in PI.

    01. Trendlines, rectangles, horizontal lines drawn on a particular TF should be visible from all the time frames.
    02.please look to improve the drawing tools which still needs the ability to change the attribute( color, thickness, type etc) directly from the chart without open the chart setting.
    03. “None” option is required in tools just like kite. If I want to draw 10 trend lines (channels, sub channels) in single chart (Normally I open 3 to 4 charts ) every time I have to click on trend line button. But in kite once you clicked trend line option till you click on None option it will draw trend lines. In my view this is very much helpful to traders those who are using PI.

    Thanking you,

    dharmateja

    • Siva says:

      Stop loss order entry for bracket orders is in our list of things to do but will take some time.
      Point 1 and 2 will be addressed soon enough though point 3 may take more time.

  88. MD ABRAR says:

    with due respect time interval changing option in chart is good update but what i expected and eagerly waiting for that is chart refresh option , if net get disconnect for few minute then how to get data once i reconnected to the terminal without closing and reopen the chart.2nd is easy way to setup multiple chart as it is in amibroker.

  89. Zerodha IT says:

    @MD ABRAR
    Chart refresh is not there ,but there is a work around to achieve this.
    Let’s say you are in 1 min chart (and you want to do chart refresh)-just do timeframe conversion to any other minute(eg.2 min-this automatically syncs the data with the server).Now change back again to 1 min chart

  90. MITESH says:

    Please add super trend indicator with totally configurable parameters at the earliest

  91. Nav says:

    When would you be releasing update for weekly charts and GTD orders?

  92. PS0745 says:

    Hello Nitin,

    On Kite can you provide an option in the Positions section to club more than one trade and see the overall gain loss on that combined trade. Idea is to see the gain/loss on the overall option strategy used and not on individual leg of the strategy.
    This will help a lot to make right decisions faster.

    Salil

    • Siva says:

      If one has 5 different positions then how system can guess the positions under one particular strategy. Then one has to manually input each position individually, instead going through this complexity one can check the usual way we believe.

  93. TUSHAR says:

    Sir,

    I have started making PROFITS in ZERODHA ALSO………. 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I have a long list of shares in cash buying

    Your KITE is VERY CONVENIENT and EASY for my kind of person………….. BUT

    1) In HOLDINGS….in the “”P & L “” column….there is no facility to “” SORT “” “” UP/DOWN ”

    In “”Q”” it is there………..BUT THERE the FACILITY to EXIT is not there.

    SO…………..REALLY………VERY…….VERY….EAGERLY…….AWAITING…….the REVISED VERSION OF

    KITE….QUANT……and……………Q………….

    HOPE WE WILL GET the BEST COMBO……OF……..ALL THREE above……in the …..”””KITE “””

    ANY LIKELY DATE….when we can see this REVISED VERSION………..??????????????????????????

    please inform

    THANKS

  94. PS0745 says:

    How can I plot USDINR spot price in the kite?

  95. deeksha says:

    hello Nithin Sir, just become a member of zerodha but sad as not found my trading indicators (supertrend & ichimoku) could you tell me wen zerodha will add them.thanks

  96. Mahendra Mistry says:

    Hi,
    Thanks for the update NItin Kamath,
    Sir, I was expecting compare option and other technical indicator. pitchfork and in this Pi update… concentrated on design and not on trading options.. please check on it

  97. Siva K Sunku says:

    Hi,
    On PI, I am not able to see the old Futures historical data.
    Say, I want to see the chart for NIFTY-26FEB2016 now, I am not able to.

    Is there any such feature to get old historical F&O data (atleast Futures) ?

    Thanks
    Siva

    • Venu says:

      No, you can’t view charts for contracts that have expired. We’re planning to provide continuous data for Futures which is when you’ll be able to view charts for expired contracts.

  98. bahubali says:

    These are all o.k. what about a dedicated android app? is there no programmers available to develop the app in this country?

  99. Pavan S says:

    Hello Zerodha,

    I have identified couple of issues in the last update not sure if it is a repeated one or any one who has already noticed.

    1. on the chart window.. if i am trying to place an order from charts. while i place the trigger two or 3 rs/points abve the market price. it is getting placed at the market price and trigerring the order.
    2. if i try to modify the order placed through chart window.. as soon as i modify and click confirm / submit the chart window zooms out

    • Siva says:

      1) It should not happen unless you are modifying price manually after placing order or by the time you place order the price might have already reached. You can write to [email protected] if you facing this issue in other than mentioned scenarios.
      2) yes and it will be addressed in next release. For time being one can click on up-arrow after modifying order placed from chart.

  100. Naveen says:

    Hi

    There is a bug in the new release. If we select zerodha theme & white color chart tool combination, price column is masked by white color. Please fix this

  101. Siva says:

    It is not a bug but that is how it is, if one select white color all the drawings will be in white.
    As many combinations of themes and colors are possible there is a chance this can happen to few particular color combinations. Alternatively one can use any other color out of many available options for this particular theme.

    • Naveen says:

      One more thing i observed is we cant able to draw 2 different color lines.

      • Siva says:

        Yes, as of now one can use any one color only and if possible in coming releases will try to give the user the option to use different colors for different lines.

  102. mituldaga says:

    Hi, plz help on the following points:
    1. Market Indices shifts to its default position whenever I start the terminal inspite of saving it at a different location in my workspace.
    2. The number of rows at the bottom in Alerts & Messages changes to its default 5 rows though I save it as 3 rows in my workspace.
    3. Certain columns like %Change changes its position in the watchlist whenever I start the application.

    • Siva says:

      Saving of layout is not yet available but it is in our list of things to do and in coming new releases it will be addressed.

  103. Bhavani says:

    Hi Nithin,

    Is zerodha PI tested on windows10 enterprise 64 bit edition.
    For me pi is not opening at all, I have raised a support ticket 361423 for this.
    Support executive debugged below stuff.
    1. Initially they claim antivirus blocking the application.Disabled anitivirus, issue seen again
    2. .NET not installed, but its available. It comes integrated application as part windows OS it self.
    3. Asked me to install VC++, but its already installed in my system.

    Irrespective of back and forth communication, issue is not resolved yet.
    Earlier I had windows 7, PI worked properly.
    I am not sure any body else also faced the similar problem.
    Could you please looks the support ticket 361423, it would be really helpful if you could provide solution.
    I am not sure any body else also faced the similar problem. Sorry for posting it in wider forum.

    Thanks

  104. chandru mehta says:

    PI working fine on windows 10 with me. no problems till date .kITE works best with Chrome.

    Today there is a message on zerodha.com that this site is blocked it contains malware. I still checked into the site. Can team zerodha look into this.

    • bhavani says:

      Correcting typo..
      Hi Chandru,

      Are you able to see Microsoft .NET in Programs and Features under control panel. Is your OS is 64 or 32 bit
      Mine 64 bit OS, I feel pi is working due to some incompatibility issue.

      • chandru mehta says:

        64 bit . I did the installation . I did not leave it to the guy that sold me the laptop . I knew if he would have done the installation i too would have faced problems . If there’s not too much at stake take team zerodhas help to load the software again.Windows 10 has too many restrictions but i ensured minimal security and did not allow windows defender & norton virus to take control.

    • We had an attack yesterday, all sorted now.

  105. Adhik says:

    HI nithin
    i use pi terminal for my intraday trade…recently i m using Heikin Ashi charts for the same…what i found is Heikin Ashi Candles are not correctly shown…rather i afraid , are not correctly calculated…meaning- open of the candle is average of open and close of previous candle and ideally it should start from middle of body of previous candle…but it seems its not actually…please check the same

  106. Vinod Chethikkat says:

    Hi Nithin,
    PI is wonderful and very convenient to trade. i have a request to you that Psar shows small horizontal lines, is it possible to convert it into dot which is more easy to visualize and execute trade.? How Pi bridge help a normal trader who does not have any software knowledge? i mean availing data from ambibroker or any? another things is that i am ready to equip myself by learning the software, if its beneficial to my trading skills. please advise what are the softs i should have? thanks vinod

  107. Noufal says:

    Please add RSI indicator over bought and over sold line too.

  108. umesh says:

    hi,
    the usage of zoom in and zoom out in tools is not user friendly .cant zoom in or out continuously as before in this version.please rectify

  109. Naveen says:

    In latest release of PI where wheel mouse is designated to zoom in/out, As a trader we generally maneuver the chart left & right then zooming, as like in icharts. Please consider this option in next release.

  110. A Das says:

    Not yet zerodha member but planning to be soon.
    As I frequently travel, need to have the PI installed in my home PC and as well as my laptop (but only 1 instance active at any point of time). Is it allowed ?

  111. nilesh kumar says:

    hello team zerodha,
    *please add trailing stoploss for MIS order too
    *and buying at market price in BO
    >buying at market price with MIS make sense for trading perspective at opening of the market but without trailing stoploss all earnings are vanished.

    • nilesh kumar says:

      AND i bet this feature also boost zerodha’s turnover by 1.5x.
      because we as customers louse our money in first trade or do not trade at market opening hours both
      scenario is not friendly for any broking firm’s revenue model.

    • Siva says:

      If you want to place market orders using BO just mention the price above quoting prices and it will be traded at market price.

      • nilesh kumar says:

        this is buggy type of action because after execution of the order whole day i am not able to modify and exit the order.this order only can be bumped to SL or TGT by the market, otherwise after the treading session it is treated as CALL&TRADE and charged rs20.
        and please add trailing SL for MIS. it will give me one more reason to trade from kite where BO and CO is missing,and make my decision correct without dilemma and allow me to execute next trade sooner compared to MIS without trailing SL.

  112. Rajesh says:

    Hi Nithin,
    as of now ZERODHA is almost number one discount broker , but if you can provide us LEVEL II data in market depth, then it will be the number one and can satisfy all needs of the traders we are looking for from any broker.

    is there any possibility that we are provided with Level II data or you have any restrictions from legal point of view.

    Thanks.

    • Level 2 data can’t be provided by brokers (brokers also don’t get this). You will have to buy it from an authorized data vendor. It costs quite a bit. Check this link.

      • Rajesh says:

        Yeah ..checked the link .. I can’t believe that it costs that much.. Uffffff…. 🙁
        Btw,
        Nithin- you guys rock.. How is it possible to give reply to all the questions.. Hats off to you and our ZERODHA team.

  113. 1. Is it possible to create multiple market watch in Pi ? If so how.

    2. Can I get professional help to set up automated scripted alerts etc

    3. Can i insert blank rows in Market watch.

    tks

  114. Vittal Vashist says:

    Hi Z Team,
    While trading using BO, the margin amount deducted is always higher than that shown in the BO margin calculator? Why is that so? Is the margin calc is only for guidance and not for exact amount computation??

    Secondly, is there any statutory limitation in allowing a BO/CO order to the next day if the margin money conditions are met?? It can become something like a BTST or STBT with mandatory SL specified.. I guess this will be a great offer to Z users..

    • Yes the margin calculator is indicative only.
      Exchanges require minimum stipulated margin for overnight basis. Also since exchange clears all orders from cache, tought to keep the SL and target on the exchanges on eod basis.

  115. vishal says:

    I would be nice to see the underlying profit or loss in the chart once we take position instead of referring to admin position…. and i think it will be a great feature not present in other platform .

    thanks

  116. muthu says:

    Hi Siva/Nitin,

    Its regarding the indicators on Renko charts in Pi. Whether it is plotting correctly or representation is not correct, but there is a bug. None of the indicators are smooth. MACD, RSI, STOCH etc and all looking very bad.. Kindly correct ASAP.

    Regards
    MS

  117. Charan says:

    Hi I am new to Zerodha,
    NFO is not visible in market watch in Pi, thus I am unable to trade in NFO please solve this.
    User ID:- RM3982

  118. Naresh says:

    hi Z team,
    i am new to zerodha. I am studies about tech analysis and i use pi and kite both ……but kite is more smoother then pi and some suggestions are
    1. zoom in and out is not working as kite works……after zooming recent value will move right hand side ………so much boring to drag chart to recent value….and little bit hanging prob also
    2.There is no any shortcut for cross hair on chart ….
    3. when on cross hair axis time on Y- axis and value on x- axis should be shown but not
    4. In Oscillators like Rsi and stochastic , there are two lines overbought and oversold but avail median line or zero line which is applicable .
    5. About time frame, if i m using minute chart and if i want to shift in hourly chart or dailly chart i will have to open new one its little hactic pls do it is possible…

  119. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    PLZ GIVE THE SCRIP PANEL IN THE PLACE OF CHART SYMBOL, WE TYPE THERE AND GET CHART QUICKLY

    • Siva says:

      If one want to select option contract or change between exchanges it would be difficult if one has to type as one should know correct full trading symbol and type with out any errors in quick time.

  120. RAJESH J says:

    Hi ZERODHA
    Pleas When You Launch Fully Automation ALGO Trading AMI & API For Retail Client TK U

  121. vinesh kumar says:

    dear sir
    when will we have the feature of two script chart in one window , or comperative chart in pi .

  122. uma says:

    Excuse me, This query is not related to trading platform.
    Can I have Post Box Number as correspondence address. i.e For ex, Uma, Post Box No.XXX, Bangalore. Having given the permanent address, Bank details, e-Mail address etc. there is no problem in receiving the contract notes, transferring money etc. Would you accept the Post Box number as correspondence address if certified by postal authorities.

  123. Rajesh says:

    Hi Nithin,
    could you please keep SL and Target for BO same as CO.. because in BO calculating points is diffuclt during scalping.

  124. Ajit says:

    Pl. add trendline extension and also on keyboard as others r giving e.g. – Press T=trendline 2)moving averages with up /dn different colours 3 ) Relative strength with Other script e.g. SBI / BANK NIFTY 4)

  125. Ajit says:

    Sir,
    Pl. add different group of index scripts in respective group difined by NSE /Capital market / (Zerodha defined ) .By that we don’t have to rush for making group e.g Bnak nifty ( 12 banks +bank nifty + Bank nifty fut ) , Nifty = (nifty 50 scripts + nifty + nifty fut )

    2) Smae for only fut scripts e.g PSU Banks =( All psu banks in fut. group )

  126. Velmurugan says:

    I just transferred today morning 38.5K into my trading account from ICICI. Trying to place my first order with Zerodha for 500 shares. Below is the message i am getting. Please help.

    rejected RMS:Blocked for nse_cm RUSHIL-EQ MIS block type: ALL

    Thanks,
    Velu

  127. Prabhu says:

    Hi Nithin Sir,

    Is there any options to sync script among multiple charts.Say i have opened the chart for SBI-EQ,i have opened 5 min chart,15 min chart and daily chart for sbi,so for next i need to look at the chart of tatasteel in all the 3 different time frames.this makes me to open another 3 charts additional.

    instead if the same opened charts changes automatically to tatasteel once i click the script added in my market watch,it would be great right.

    Can we expect this from zerodha,plz share your inputs.

    thnaks

  128. Raj says:

    Hi Siva,
    To find relative strength, can you provide diff global market charts(China,Singapore and Eroupe market indexes) so that we can compare our Index with different markets and can find trends for day trading?

    @all Friends,
    can you suggest me any site for live 5 min charts of global market charts(China, Singapore and Europe market indexes)

  129. Velmurugan says:

    Dear Z Team,

    I just transferred today morning 38.5K into my trading account from ICICI. Trying to place my first order with Zerodha for 500 shares. Below is the message i am getting. Please help.

    rejected RMS:Blocked for nse_cm RUSHIL-EQ MIS block type: ALL

    Thanks,
    Velu

  130. Jitendra says:

    1. BO orders should have user settings to populate default values in Qty, SqrOff Sell, StopLoss Sell (Absolute/Ticks). This is already available for F1/F2 (Regular Buy/Sell Orders). The same feature should be available for BO orders as it saves valuable time and avoids confusion during real time trading.

    2. In my Amibroker chart, I have a formula which calculates Resistance/Support values on a real time basis as the market progresses during the day. The same is easily plotted on my Amibroker Chart on the left side. However, Zerodha should allow user to customize chart by allowing user to plot values based on Trade script formula. Because this feature is not there, I have to use Amibroker chart just for calculating resistance/support values and pay heavy data feed charges to third party. If you adopt this feature (customizing chart and allowing user to plot values based on personal formulas), it will be a great boon to us.

    • Siva says:

      In BO orders also one can set default quantity by going to order window from user setting under view column.
      One can give required values in target and stoploss columns for one time and the same will come by default still next login.
      Point 2 is noted.

  131. Velmurugan says:

    Dear Siva,

    Today I have transferred Rs 38500 to my account for the first time to do trading. I could see now the Rs 38500 as account value and Rs 76,989.6 as free cash. what is this free cash and why it is more than my account value and how can i use it? should i use it?

    Regards,
    Velu

  132. DATTATRAYA says:

    Thanks and congrats for the new updates . I have a few more suggestions for further improvement in CHART SETTINGS —-

    1) There should be a provision for changing colour of vertical and horizontal lines ,

    2} The vertical line, when requested for, should appear on all the panels of the chart, at one go,

    3) When a chart is saved as Templet it should be saved as such with all the drawings (e.g. horiz. lines indicating overbought/oversold levels }

    • Siva says:

      One can change color of horizontal and vertical lines by visiting chart settings and selecting chart tool and selecting required color.
      Vertical line is appeared on all time frames of same underlying on opened chart.

      • DATTATRAYA says:

        Dear Siva,

        I have suggested that the vertical line should appear on all the PANELS of the chart ( not on all time frames as you have replied ).
        At least, the saved templet , when applied to any chart, should show all the features, including all the drawings, colours, lines, etc.
        Regards.

  133. Sultan Rahel says:

    In Pi, if I want to open any script intraday chat of one day it will open two days intraday chart. Why it is happening. Thank u

  134. vijay says:

    sir it is possible to add ichimoku , hull ma , and camrrila pivots study with main chart and rsi with ma /ema as indicator.

  135. Biplob Paul says:

    Sir, You have uploaded education as pdf , I requested you please upload all education chapter in video format.

  136. jeetu says:

    Hi,
    Thankyou for listening to us & incorporating features.
    Just a few more suggestions (all related to Pi):
    1. Please add list of future stocks (not futures contracts) in predefined workspace. Sector indices doesn’t bring up all in the same market watch.
    2. Please add the feature to export data to excel from market watch window. This is necessary if I have to shortlist stocks using functions in excel. In chart, it would only export historical data of that particular scrip.
    3. Please add monthly pivot points in daily charts.
    4. Please add weekly charts.
    5. Please add shortcut key to change scrip from chart. Also, it would be great to paste a scrip into the ‘Search scrip’ as its very tedious to type every single time.
    6. In the ADX indicator, the ADX line is not very responsive & is kind of flat (compared to another terminal I’ve used earlier & it was fairly accurate). Other indicators are perfect. Its just this one which I would request you to relook)

    • Siva says:

      For next release we are working on multiple market watches, once it is accomplished we will give default work-spaces to add much higher number of scrips to one go.
      Point 3,4,5, are in our list of things to do.
      On Point 2- Broker is not allowed to give live data on to any other front-ends including excel apart from which is approved from exchange. Data vendors pay huge sum to exchanges to get license to provide data on to other front-ends.

  137. Nitesh Sharma says:

    Hi Nithin,
    can you Please help in regards to save the chart studies for ex if i have set 5 & 13 SMA on Nifty Future i want the same to open every time . How to Save this so that i don’t have to add the same every time

    • Siva says:

      1) Add required indicators on to chart, right click on chart and save it to template.
      2) Follow View-> user settings -> chart setting -> select on default template and tick on template 1 and select the saved template.
      3) Apply it and click on OK.
      From next time whenever you open a chart it opens with selected template automatically.

  138. Ashish Joshi says:

    I keep Pi running in background and do my work as usual. I do occasionally lock my PC and take breaks. When I return, Pi gives a prompt that the session has expired and shuts down. I tried increasing the session timeout, but did not help

    please help as multitasking is the way of life. and re-logon during trading time is not encouraging. Am I missing something?

    My ID: RA8592

  139. Manish Astral says:

    Hi,

    So far the new version of Pi is nice with many new features. But it still suffers from many fundamental flaws in the charting system.

    So to begin with

    1) The Trendline vanishes at random when the chart is switched from 1 time frame to the other.

    2) Trendlines sometimes also move from its initial position at random when switching time frame.

    3) After loading a saved chart the Horizontal lines are totally missing. I think the horizontal lines are not getting saved at all.

    4) Loading a saved chart won’t allow anymore time frame switches. Which is totally weird. So for instance if i load a 5 min saved chart with some horizontal lines and trendlines drawn , the loaded chart won’t have any horizontal lines at all. On top of that the time frame switching select box is completely disabled.

    5) Say i have a chart of AXISBANK 15min opened, i scroll back to January and in there i draw some lines. Now when i switch the time frame to say 30 min, i’m taken to the end of the chart or to the last data or the current day. This is very annoying and distracting. Because everytime i try to switch a time frame , i also have to again scroll back months of data to get to the point i was, before switching the chart.

    6) Trendline, Horizontal lines, rectangles are still very very crude, in the sense that it allows no easy changing of colors, thickness, line types, rectangle fill color, translucency etc.

    7) Text tools suffer the same fate, of being utterly crude as i can’t edit a text, nor change its font, not its size, nor its color.

    I can’t but hope that these simple , basic yet the most fundamental features will be implemented and fixed in the upcoming issues. As a matter of fact, i’ve been sending this same message for the last 6 months or maybe even more. Yet Pi doesn’t have a decent charting tools. And these are the basic charting tools that are present in all decent charting platform worldwide. Please do consider getting this fixed

  140. Akil Pathan says:

    Hi zerodha,

    First of all i want to say thanks to you guys for adding time-frame change option in chart. That saves me a lot of time.
    However i have few requests that i would like you to make on future updates of pi.

    1) Changing colors line types of drawings on charts
    all the colors of drawings on the chart ( segment horizontal,vertical lines, fibs ) they are all blue. Its confusing and a little hard to see. Also if we could change the line type ( Thick, dotted etc.) just like in kite it will be amazing improvement.

    2) Fib Extensions :
    I know they are on your list of things to do. but sooner will be better, since they are one of the most important trading tools . Also it should have color change option to easily identify confluence.

    3) fixed horizontal lines.
    After drawing horizontal lines on pi, when i move around the chart ,it shifts the lines a little bit .

    Warm Regards,
    Akil Pathan

  141. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    sir plz give the indices bar(or side by side ).how can i change indices font size.

  142. sunil says:

    Sir is it possible to see Nifty future Feb charts now?

    After expiry all feb contracts are disappeared.

  143. Uday says:

    Can we use super trend indicator on renko chart? If yes on which platform Pi or kite?

  144. ushrikant says:

    Sir,
    Instead of using candlestick chart I refer Renko chart. How to backtest studies on Renko chart?

  145. ushrikant says:

    Sir,
    I am not a programmer or not having knowledge of language then how to code for renko chart? Can you give any example of code for the following strategy refer RENKO chart. EMA crossover for100 and 5 for buy and EMA crossover for 5 and 100 for sell.

  146. Kaur says:

    I have macpro….please support for mac also

    • Siva says:

      On Mac you can use our web based platform kite which is packed with all technical indicators and chart types and loaded with 11 years of daily data and upto 7 months of intraday data.

  147. RH1315 says:

    Hi, I am Hitesh Solanki my user id is RH1315. i had received username password which I had changed to my choice. I was able to login and access the account however now Im not able to login and this situation has happend with me several times. How can I trade if this issue comes every other time. Kindly rectify any problem within your system.
    I know that I can send a email to your support email id but my experience is very bad past couple of days

  148. Sathish Kumar says:

    Plz provide Mobile friendly App

  149. PANKAJ KUMAR GUPTA says:

    WHEN WILL OPENTRADE IS LAUNCHING?

  150. Sanjay says:

    Please add in pi supertreand option also

  151. uma says:

    Excuse me, This query is not related to trading platform. SEBI as per their circular “CIR/MRD/DP/ 37 /2010 December 14, 2010, allows acceptance and capture the address of some person other than the beneficial owner(BO) (third party) as a correspondence address in the details of the demat account of the BO. I trade only in futures and hence do not have demat account but I’m having trading account. Without any change in the details of permanent address, E Mail id, or Bank account details, would you accept my relative address at Maharashtra or at Karnataka as correspondence address . Whether any formalities are to be fulfilled in this regard. Whether my name should appear in the correspondence address or whether my relative name should appear if I wish to make use of this provision. Please clarify.

  152. uma says:

    When there is no bar in accepting the third party address as correspondence address, in the case of depositories, (subject to fulfillment of conditions thereof) there cannot be any bar in the case of trading account also. Consider this:- A person investing in shares (cash segment), will have a demat account as well as trading account. Obviously the correspondence address would be same in both the account opening forms and there is no logic in insisting for a different correspondence address for trading account. Hence, justifiably to fulfill the specific need of your clients this could be accepted. Hence please enlighten what further procedures in this regard.

    • Venu says:

      The rules meant for the Exchanges are different from the rules meant for the Depositories. When a stock broker is subject to inspection, each of these regulators conduct their inspections severally and a broker is bound by rules & regulations set by each of these regulators separately. Although what you’re saying may seem logical, we wouldn’t be able to accept such address proofs for trading account simply because the rules are different.

  153. Kumar says:

    When will you ppl start offering demo accounts so new traders can practice for a few days and then open a live account. If you dont have demo account then start giving free demo accounts. There is always a first time for everything.

    • Siva says:

      We want to give demo accounts but there is a block from regulators as broker is not allowed to give live data feed on to any other platform except approved ones during live markets in India. For time being one can start trading in equities with minimum amount allocated so that one can also get hang of complete life cycle of a trade in live scenario. Slowly one can increase the stakes.

  154. PANKAJ JAIN says:

    nitin ji
    me stop loss ke sath trade kerta hu lekin sl lagane ke bad trigger price hit hone per bhi position close nahi hui ysa kyo me new trader hu or Clint id DP3640 HE PLEASE REPLAY
    VEDL LIYA THA Q 1 94.1O MAY OR TRIGGER PRICE 93.75 LGAYA THA LEKIN TRIGGER PRICE HIT HONE PER BHI POSSESSION CLOSE NAHI HUI JISASE JYDA LOSS HOGA PLEASE ADVICE ME QUICKLY PLEASE PLEASE

  155. chandru mehta says:

    team zerodha ,

    whenever you update pi with new indicators ,
    please consider raff regression channel indicator for the charts live as a indicator , currently it is available in the chart tool bar but the problem is it has to be drawn manually & repeated ,.

    It is a very useful indicator, thanks

  156. Deba says:

    Nitin Ji,
    Many many thanks for your teams effort.
    Each time Pi is getting better and better.
    Can you please ad two more features which will definitely help most traders.
    1. drawing parallal lines (trend line and trend channel line) like Amibroker.
    2. Placing quick order based on candel. For example I have opened candlestick chart of 5 minutes Nifty. I want to go long above 20 ticks of the high of the last closed candle or go short 20ticks below the low of last closed candle. (Pi shall take high of last closed candle and add or subtract 20 ticks automatically and show the value). There should be options to set the variable (20ticks) once and then I can place the trade with a single click long or short. The orders should be market orders. Trigger price = (high of the last closed candle + 20 ticks) when going long. When going short trigger price = (high of the last closed candle – 20 ticks). Once my order is filled there should be two more orders placed automatilly. One is stop loss which is 20 ticks below the low of the same candle in case of buy and 20 ticks above the same candle in case of sell. Another is square off order 80 ticks above the buy price or 80 ticks below the sell price. There should be option to modify orders individually later. In the same order window there should be option to set the quantity.
    Let me simplify :
    Always the last candle on any timeframe chart is under formation and 2nd from last is closed.
    Buy trigger price for market Order = high of closed candle + 20 ticks (adjustable in settings)
    After filled 2 ordrs should be placed automatically
    A. stoploss = low of the same candle – 20 ticks (adjustable in settings)
    B. square off = buy price + 80 ticks (adjustable in settings)
    C. Once square off order triggered stoploss order would be cancelled automatically or once stop loss order triggered square off order would be cancelled automatically after that.
    Similarly sell orders are just the opposite.

  157. Deba says:

    Nitin Ji,
    Sorry I forgot. Kindly add 2 more things.
    1. A count down clock on the chart window (3 min / 5 min / 15min / 60min charts) how much time left to close the candle. (Minutes and seconds).
    2. A beep sound when a candle is closed. (3 min / 5 min / 15min / 60min charts)
    All the above should be optional. One could turn on or off these features.
    Thank you very much

  158. Sandip says:

    Hi Nitin,

    Please provide Guppy or, at least, increase the no. of indicators that can be used in Pi so that we can create indicators like Guppy on our own.
    When we are getting our next Release?

    Thanks
    Sandip

  159. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    im drawing trend lines and saves as template. and when we apply template .that drawn trendlines are disappearing .
    and when i plot one indicator. chart tool bar get inactive ,why this happening plz help me.
    * give supertrend indicator. camarilla pivot
    * multiple tame frame h ,daily also give in one toolbar.

    • NAGESWAR RAO says:

      im drawing trend lines and saves as template. and when we apply template .that drawn trendlines are disappearing .
      and when i plot one indicator. chart tool bar get inactive ,why this happening plz help me.
      * give supertrend indicator. camarilla pivot
      * multiple tame frame h ,daily also give in one toolbar.

  160. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    plz add delete indicator option

  161. Sandeep Prabhudesai says:

    Can you provide more indicators regarding Market Profile ? Volume Profile is there in Kite, but having VAH, VAL, std deviations, etc will also help

  162. arupdas says:

    Can an indicator be drawn on another indicator ? Eg moving average of RSI ?

    Thanks in advance

    • Siva says:

      You can add MA on any other indicator. Select MA and while adding click on choose source option and select required source. Once MA is added on panel select that one and drag it on to required source.Though this is a crude way of adding in coming new versions we will make it simple to add indicator on indicator.

  163. Suman Chowdhuri says:

    1. Creating a marketwatch with selected stocks in current system is very cumbersome.. can we add multiple stocks or futures at same time say by multi selection?
    One by one selection does not make sense..Lets say if i have to add an option for april series and want to add the spread for PE and CE from 7500 to 8000 i have to add individually , which does not make sense.. Its not that difficult to make a multi selection process.

    2.Finding some stocks is very difficult in current system , I was trying to find Simmonds Marshal. It falls in XC category of BSE only. So for this i had to do a google search which category Simmonds fall in and the had to add by choosing the filters.

    Any workaround for this two issue?

  164. Raj says:

    First of all really appreciate wonderful work you people are doing.

    The last 2 updates added some really good features particularly Color coded volume bars, changing of time frames in chart, modifying orders from chart .. Keep up the good work!

    Few suggestions:-
    If possible please try to incorporate these in the versions to come or let me know if any of these is already possible and I am missing.

    1. Filtering options in order book, particularly in completed order panel, especially to exclude cancelled orders (i guess we can do this in Kite)

    2. Admin function gives P&L of the position per stock i.e. the buy and sell prices come as average ..(buy and sell average price). If we take multiple positions in the same stock, P&L tracking for each each new position becomes difficult. It would be best if Admin can show the P&L per position instead of per stock.

    3. After the latest update, moving the mouse wheel, zooms in and zooms out the chart.
    Earlier we could use mouse wheel to scroll the chart 1 bar at at time. Now we cannot do the same as arrow keys scroll more than 1 bar at a time, please add this functionality

    4. Title bar / index bar / or anywhere on the screen, if 2 things can be displayed
    a Next trading date (like it comes on NSE site on top right hand side)
    b F&O Expiry date of the current month

    5. Highlighter tool in chart, we can manage with ellipse tools but highlighter (to highlight/mark/color areas in chart) could be handy, if possible please add.

    • Siva says:

      1. In our list of things to do.
      2. It is not practical, if one has taken 10 positions in 10 different stocks then 100 rows should be displayed and will look chaotic. Anyhow you can monitor from your back office Q.zerodha.com in tradebook option under reports menu.
      3. Will look into it.
      4. You can add any F&o scrip on to market watch and check the expiry date in trading symbol column.
      5. One can use freehand drawing tool to highlight on charts.

      • Raj says:

        thanks for your replies.

        point 2 was mainly wrt to Intraday positions.
        what I am referring to is similar to “Open Positions” option given by icicidirect.
        May be if we could get 3 filter options- open, closed and all positions in admin or a separate screen showing only open positions.
        Currently admin is in effect showing all positions, which as mentioned by you should be summarized.
        Unrealized MTM does give the open P&L, but if we could filter open positions, we could get entry price (buy/sell) as well.
        If possible please consider the same.

  165. Brajendra says:

    dear sir,
    i believe, you haven’t include ATR yet. how long we have to wait for atr.?

    • Siva says:

      If possible will give it in next major release. By the way it is already available in our web based platform kite.zerodha.com.

  166. Suman Chowdhuri says:

    Is there no volume bars for CNX Nifty (Nifty 50 ) in chart ? I see volume bars for Nifty futures . One reason could be as they are not actually traded in exchanges, but how are other tools giving volume of CNX Nifty say Investing.com etc

  167. Vj says:

    Hi Nithin,

    Recently i happen to attend a workshop on trading and it was from Sharkhan. ( Offcource no plans to move ;-))

    Just to highlight, i was taken trough the chart of tradtiger where you have a possibility of placing 3 Orders at a time .
    1)The buy/Sell Order.
    2)The target what you looking
    3)the Stop loss
    And all is done just marking these points on chart and double clicking on the buy area.
    Being a new /learner i found it very cool technique .

    My point is do we have the facility in Pie or Kite ? I did try searching it that way but dint find . Let me know how do place 3 orders at a time.

    Regards,
    Vj

  168. Naveen Kumar says:

    1. Is there any way to fix the horizontal line at particular price?. what i observed is, after placing horizontal line at 7750, if I do zoom in/out or pan left/right the lines are getting shifted by +/- 2 points.
    2. please provide the option to save drawings.
    3. when continuous charts are getting implemented in PI?

    Thanks

  169. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    im drawing trend lines and saves as template. and when we apply template .that drawn trendlines are disappearing .
    and when i plot one indicator. chart tool bar get inactive ,why this happening plz help me.
    * give supertrend indicator. camarilla pivot
    * multiple tame frame h ,daily also give in one toolbar.

    • Siva says:

      Drawing tools are not saved as of now and we are working on it,super trend and all different time frames in one bar will be available in next major release.

  170. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    sir

    is it possible to give open-interest on chart.

  171. Piyush says:

    I updated pi and after that it does not auto update chart of nifty futures . Like when opened daily chart of nifty futures the candles dont get updated, I have to again open a fresh chart, this is really horrible. Please resolve this issue.

  172. Ashish verma says:

    After updating Pi, antivirus has blocked Pi for
    FileRepsnxclass[PUP] some adware, can we allow this but not sure about the security.

  173. RU0499 says:

    Please arrange to introduce Supertrend in Pi
    Thanks

    • Venu says:

      It’ll take some time before it comes on Pi. By the way, it’s already available on Kite.

      • RU0499 says:

        Venu,
        I understand Pi and Kite cannot be logged in simultaneously, please correct me. Even if supertrend is in Kite, one has to log out of Pi and then study supertrend to come back to Pi.
        Regards

        • Venu says:

          Yes, it’s an Exchange requirement and a security feature that logs off one session, when you login to another session with the same ID.

  174. Gaurav Jha says:

    Hi,
    Is Pi available for MacOS ??
    And if not, any chance of bringing it on MacOS in near future ?

  175. PANKAJ JAIN says:

    my Clint id DP3640
    I TRADING PI SOFT
    LIMIT \SL I BAY 1 BALRAMPURCHINI @ 107.05 TRIGGER PRICE 107
    BUT MY SL TRIGGER PRICE IS TRIGGERED BUT MY POSITION IS NOT CLOSE & NO SELL
    SL TRIGGER PRICE HIT HONE PER BHI POSITION CLOSE KYO NHI HO RAHI HAY KYOKI BARA TRADE LENE PAR TO KAFI LOSS HO SAKTA HE SL HIT HONE PAR BHI POSITION CLOSE NAHI HO RAHI HAY PLEASE HELP ME

    • Venu says:

      You’ve placed a SL order and have mentioned a limit price. When your trigger gets hit, if there’s no counterparty ready to buy at 107, the order will not go through and gets converted to a limit order.

  176. Aryan says:

    When will log scale/semi log scale charts be available on Pi?

  177. *RON* says:

    Really looking for some kind of timescale for GTC orders (even if it is approx.). Since more than 6 months now, whenever I ask for an update, I just get a standard response which says ‘We are working on it’.

    Secondly can you confirm that GTC will be available for F&O also?

    And lastly, can you confirm that GTC feature will be available on both Pi & Kite?

  178. vishal vyas says:

    hi nitin.. firstly excellent work done by you in broking industry.

    i am also using some other professional charting softwares. my question is whatever price is in market watch.. should be reflected in the chart also .. which is not happening in pi.. for example .. if in 10 min candle chart if open is 7505.05 … the same should be reflected in the chart also …

    hope you will solve this at the earliest.

  179. NAGESWAR RAO says:

    sir
    how can i generate alerts for a group of scrips

  180. chandru mehta says:

    are you planning to introduce some additional indicators in Pi . If so can you list them in advance so that you could get some feedback.

  181. raghu says:

    In which platforms availability for co and bo orders can u tell me

  182. Joyanta says:

    Sir,

    I used latest version of pi. when i open chart ,chart is open but not live.New candle not appear with time…please solve the problem……

  183. ajit14 says:

    1) Can we put order on chart indicator e.g. – RSI , OBV etc. 2) Add relative strength comparative e.g. – compare with nifty = Infy / Nifty , Sintex /s&p 500 . 3) Sma /Ex mov. average on chart changes colour when changing direction up or down to have a visual approach 4)Can we give share on rent officially through zerodha on for a month ? 5 ) Is there any limit for buying / selling in currency about daily quantity ?

  184. ajit14 says:

    Can I get all time data for particular script now ?say since 1990 . When I have to find reply for my query I have to go through all list . So how I can see specific reply

  185. Arup Dass says:

    Can the posts be arranged in reverse chronological order so that the latest post appears at the top and we don’t have to scroll through hundreds , and which is growing, of posts

    • Venu says:

      This is a WordPress feature. I’ve forwarded your request yo the tech team already.

    • Venu says:

      We did evaluate your suggestion but comments cannot be reverse ordered easily as they are threaded. Just like forum posts, if we reverse order them, it will be counter intuitive to follow a conversation.

  186. Abhishek Pareek says:

    Sir Mera 1000/- ka IMPS Transaction dated April 13, 2016 abhi update nhi hua please check and reply me.

    Abhishek

  187. Lijoo says:

    Is it possible to add Delta and Theta in Market Watch of Pi ?.

    DL 0071

  188. suresh says:

    Hi, When the full version of Kite app will be released?

  189. Asha Modani says:

    The market watch in Pi don’t show the nse fno option. Hence can not trade in nse call/put options

  190. sv reddy says:

    sir, what is the difference between SL order SL-M order

  191. Anjani Singh says:

    Hello,

    Any plan for new release of Pi? What will be features being offered in the upcoming release? Any tentative plans for the release?

    Regards,
    Anjani Singh

  192. Krishnaiah says:

    Hi Nitin,
    Can I get multiple charts as tabs in a single popout chart window?

  193. puneet says:

    The above error “select a row to sqare off ” is happening with the middle row. like i have 3 hodings when i try to square off the middle row this error shows.

  194. venkat says:

    all is well but from the inception of the pi software, only one thing is to be developed , index font size increase option to be added in the user settings. (only market watch increase option is available), if available just send the screen shot of index font size increase

  195. selva says:

    hi sir
    when will zerodha release next version of pi?
    im unable to place any other order types other than market orders. nd i dont know how to fix it…

  196. Vineet A says:

    Hi,
    I cannot find pivot points on Pi as it is available in kite. Please add pivot points with s&r if they are not available as of now.

  197. Akil Pathan says:

    Hi zerodha,

    I have a request, i really like the market indices widget (one that shows nifty 50 & sensex by default on top right corner). it comes in handy when you are doing something else on pc but you still want to monitor market.
    currently you can only add indexes there , but it would be really helpful if we can add equity or f&o scripts there.

    Warm Regards,
    Akil Pathan

  198. *RON* says:

    Nitin, how can some brokers afford to take only SPAN Margin (No exposure margin) on Carry forward positions? And why cant Zerodha do the same?

    • Ron, taking it forward just on SPAN would mean that the broker is funding your exposure margin. It is not really 100% sticking with exchange compliance regulation. Also this opens up more risk to the brokerage, something which we can’t afford with our low margins.

  199. Naveen Kumar says:

    Nitin,

    Can you please provide Always on top option for PI order window, It is easy to place order by looking at charts from other platform.

  200. ramesh says:

    sir
    is it possible to export data to excel from kite

  201. Arun Kumar says:

    Hi,

    Can you please add option to change box and reversal box size for Point and figure chart in Kite just like in Pi.
    It takes some default value which is not suitable for trading.

    Requesting you to add this option as early as possible.

  202. Akil Pathan says:

    HI zerodha ,

    Please add ‘One cancels the other order’ To your list of future improvements to be made . And if it is already in your list how much time it will take?

    War Regards,
    Akil Pathan

  203. Ashish verma says:

    Hi,
    While using holding tab in Pi
    1.) If same stock is in T+1 QTY and also in QTY then the price tab is not showing average instead its showing price of QTY i.e. the stock price for stocks already in account.
    2.) While doing square off in holding tab using mouse. Can you kindly add name of stock against square off – stock name… as by default it takes first stock in list after refreshing @GET HOLDING tab.

  204. Adhik says:

    hi Nithin
    can we add chart of other security say Nifty on existing chart on screen to compare …is it there in Pi…if not will this feature be available in future..

  205. Arup Das says:

    Are CO and / or BO allowed in commodities segment ?

  206. Arup Das says:

    Please share the link from where we can get the user manual / built-in functions help on Trade Script

    Thanks in advance

  207. R,Samul Purushothaman says:

    i am you one of your costumer= pi is very nice and good = if I interested to open current one day chart in the beginning of the opening marker – pi open the previous day market chart = how can I open current one day market=

  208. Bhushan Kela says:

    Hi Nithin Sir,
    I am using Kite Mobile Android App…Few suggestions / clarifications I would request here.
    1. When we open a chart in Kite Android App…there is no feature to move the chart Right to Left…the only way I could found is Zoom out …this makes the chart UI fade and we cannot analyse on the same.
    2. In Kite (Web version) we do not have the option for Advanced charting. I have seen that some times back on this forum in one snapshot here.
    3.Please add the indices screen at the top (and the same need not be added in Market Watch) in the same way it is on Pi at top.
    4. Please make the study drop down to show all indicators, because only few technical analysts will know the full name of indicator and then they will be able to search.
    5. Open Interest should be able to add on the screen. May be this you can add below the charts of FNO series (Index / stocks).
    6. The UI for change in tick (Green colour font for uptick and Red colour font for down tick) is not so cool. We have to stress the Eyes to focus on the movement.Can you please make the same as it is in PI that the backgroud colour of the Bid / ask / LTP price changes to green / red colour. This I have already emailed to Zerodha support team two months back.
    Please make the requested changes if feasible / ok to you.

    • 1. you can use two fingers to drag the chart left to right.
      2. Advance charting essentially is when you popout a chart. We were earlier calling it advance charting.
      3. hmmm
      4. There is a show all button, click on it and you will be able to scroll through the entire list.
      5. On our list.
      6. hmm.

      • Bhushan says:

        Dear nithin Sir,
        Thanks for replying.
        But it seems my post which was under moderation posted on 24 May 2016 is deleted from the page since it depicted the technical flaw in Zerodha servers and downtime…If this was that you wanted to delete the post then why to allow users to post anything…first let them send emails to you, after moderation / modification let only good things be published…
        m very disappointed with this attitude….even after seeing your videos…regarding transparency at Zerodha…

        • Bhushan, I delete if the same comment is repeated multiple times. It just creates unwanted clutter. If I have answered the same query 10 times, there is no point answering 11th time right?

  209. vinesh kumar says:

    sir
    is it possible to open order book, tradebook , net position window as popout window instead of open as tab ( just like as nest trader) ?

  210. Ajay says:

    Hi Nitin,

    There is serious problem with your trading platforms ( both kite as well a pi ).
    Today my sell order was not executed even when my price was lower than current market price ( even lower than current bid and ask prices ).
    Can you please tell me whats going on ? Can’t trust the platforms if I am going to end up in losses with your server or platform issues.
    I have already sent a mail to support but I want you to seriously look into the issue.

    Regards,
    Ajay

  211. chandru mehta says:

    Please send out a message on the screen once the links with NSE exchange is restored . Waiting …

  212. Arup Das says:

    Nitin,

    On getting rave reviews, I opened an account in Zerodha. So long I was using ICICIDirect (from day 1, about 16 years back).

    Kite and PI are really good. But frankly speaking I find a real pain in reconciling my account. When I compare with ICICIDirect, there is much scope for improvement. I am unable to reconcile my trade value, transaction cost (with break-up – brokerage, service tax, stt etc etc) with the information i can collect from Q (ledger and reports). I am separately taking this up with support.

    Just to cite example – 1) Service Tax is not tallying with the brokerage value,
    (2) since the transaction costs are not mentioned in trade book the net value cannot be arrived which gives difficulty tallying with the ledger.

    • Agree Arup, we are working on this. The current trade process is done by a vendor based product, we are working on moving it in-house, once done we will be able to give trade wise charges, etc.

  213. K.Shekharaiah says:

    Hello sir,
    Elder Force Index which used in “PI” is similar to amibroker or not, why because force index print different in PI.

  214. Nitin Pawar says:

    hi Nithin,

    i am Nitin, a trader. I love zerodha and its tools. I have a small suggestion though, for analysis purpose of scripts data provided by zerodha is still not enough. Live Open Interest, derivatives data, historical data, option charts are some of the areas where you can provide additional tools for traders.
    Maybe a online messenger chat room where traders can share their views.

    Keep up the good work………….Team Zerodha……………..!!! i am just loving it…………..!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks,
    Nitin Pawar

    • Venu says:

      What derivatives data are you referring to? Historical chart & option charts are already available on Pi

      There are various forums already providing a chat room, so it isn’t worth the effort to duplicate something which is already available. We always keep making improvements to our platforms and soon should be able to provide you live open interest.

  215. rajesh says:

    hi
    Can we put previous day close and todays open lines on pi chart. It will be of great help. Was an iifl user before. This pi platform is truely great

  216. chandru mehta says:

    Dear Nitin ,

    received your email about IT Bandwidth issues , agree that companies who supply bulk internet cannot provide consistent seamless uninterrupted service. I had MTNL and never complained .When i had Airtel & others always landed me into issues.

  217. chandru mehta says:

    Suggestion

    Pi has amazing AI – Pattern recognition . See if you can work out a way so that we can use it online live during trading hours.

    What i mean is time has come for some path breaking indicators which are automatic. Sometime ago i had suggested that some services should be offered by zerodha as premium . I am sure some customers will pay for such a services & indicators.

    Currently AI pattern recognition has limitations during use @ live trading .

  218. Raresh says:

    Kindly launch the ICHIMOKU CLOUD on PI, or otherwise allow both kite(for chart) and Pi(for order) for trading….

  219. Nishit Pradhan says:

    Corrected:
    version 1.0.0.6 2/22/2016 is released and the version i am using is version 1.0.0.0 but when i am checking for a update, it is showing the version is updated and no new update is available,

  220. manish bauskar says:

    dear sir,
    kindly provide
    1. heat map and pre loaded market watch list for all Indian indices.
    2. provide option to delete/ modify any study with out closing the chart, i have to open it every time to modify any study.
    3. provide option for 1 min to 1 day or month in same chart tool bar ( hope your getting my points)
    4. provide advance/decline for all indian indices (not only for nifty50)
    waiting for your update…

    • 1. Working on it.
      2. Of course you can delete any study without closing the chart. HOver your mouse on the indicator, right click and hit delete. Check this video.
      3. This is already done, can you update to latest version of Pi.
      4. On our list of things to do.

  221. vinesh kumar says:

    dear sir
    we are going to complete 2 years after the release of Pi , but the very important tool for option traders = option calculater , is not included since now , it is very hard to go on another page to check option values other then trading screen .
    sir also one more suggestion for option calculator = invoke option calculator as popup window with keyboard short cut (shift+o) , and not as charts , which open in as new tab window .
    sir please -please-please integrated it with the next release of Pi
    thanks again

  222. Manali Dhamane says:

    Dear Sir,
    I love charting in Pi but just do not prefer to use it due to below reasons. It would be great if below amendments included/bugs are fixed in next version.
    1. Pi crashes frequently on my system.
    2. Pivot function does not work very well in Pi. Pivots are applied to current day only and chart looks very scattered with tiny candles.
    3. Please provide Fibonacci extensions.
    4. ADX, ATR available only in kite
    4. It would be very helpful if price alerts can be added
    Thank you.

  223. Harshvardhan says:

    Hi,
    I was wondering if it is possible to test a intraday strategy, with fixed profit booking points and fixed points SL.
    For example: if buy signal is generated at 100, I want to exit at 104 on target side and 99 on stoploss side.
    Also if it is 3:20pm, there shouldnt be any open position.
    Is it possible to do so in Pi Backtest ?

    • Using Pi it is not possible. You’d have to use an professional charting platform like Amibroker or something else for this.

      • Harshvardhan says:

        Thank you for the reply 🙂

        I think it will be great, if there can be a global variable for time, in Pi, that way we can make your strategy intraday by just accessing that variable and a simple logical statement.

        It is my humble request, if it is possible to do so, please add a global variable to access time.

  224. Vishnu Varma says:

    I would like to know how I can setup my Candle chart in black and white colour , When I tried white candle was not having proper body line so please help me to setup my chart in PI .

  225. madhu says:

    where can i find technical analysis option?/

  226. mohit p dawar says:

    hi , I’ve just moved from nest to pi, I think its really good. however plz try to add the feature of perfect trendlines with extension. with perfect trendlines I mean when you touch a bar trendline automatically detects it bottom/top giving you the perfect trendlines. trendlines are most imp tool for a trader and its very very imp for your trendlines to be near perfect. sometimes as a trader we’ve to adjust trendlines again & again just to make sure we’ve drawn it perfectly. also add the extension feature to trendlines.
    thank you in advance.

  227. Vikas Pandey says:

    Dear Nithin sir,

    I want to bring this in your knowledge that in next update please solve network problem.I have two broadband connection as during trading whenever I interchange one network to another if I am facing connectivity issue Pi software hangs and it kicks me out and I have to again log in. Please Nitin sir solve this problem.

    Thank You

  228. chandru mehta says:

    today nifty charts were down and wasn’t updating , had to logout and login to have the problem corrected . Why is this happening ,All other equity charts displayed well. Broadband 2 mpbs not an issue at my end. It was Nifty alone.

    I trade on my other reputable platform and they have lowered brokerage fees matching zerodha , No hanging issues there for nifty charts.

  229. chandru mehta says:

    Dear Nitin ,

    Its been a year since i am using PI , I love it and thank you and team zerodha for making such a successful charting software which has a user friendly interface .

    Lot has been done to improve it and i am sure there will be more.
    In the past you have mentioned that PI is rich in resources and hence has limitations also. I have a request and feedback .

    when you add more indicators to PI on one chart ( with less 5-10 days of data ) the system hangs in between and sends out a message ” not responding “. Ofcourse it gets resolved in 30 secs or so .

    But my main feedback is how do you intend to address this issue . I am not a fan of indicators and have given up , but one needs to have drawings , lines and 1-2 indicators on 2-3 charts like 1-2 equities , 2-3 indices .

    I guess this is a software based issue and you will address this part some time this year which will make trading on PI smooth . I dont want to move to KIte since it has its own constraints in term of screen space and drawings.

  230. chandru mehta says:

    I dont agree . Its a new laptop . Whenever the stock reaches a certain point it says ” not responding ” like its managed . How come Edelwiess & Investar are working fine on the same laptop. Why does Zerdoha PI get affected ?
    It happens when ever the markets are high or at the month end closing . I am suspecting something .It cant happen month on month at the end of every month . If that is the case it should happen on a daily basis.Why is it working fine on other days except month end closing and on peculiar days.

    Either your software is unable to handle large trades , bandwidth or something else that i need to record and prove it to you .There is some suspect.

  231. Prakash kothari says:

    Whenever the nifty start trending a certain point my pi software starts ” not responding ” . during the expiry week its too much.

    • We are having a new update of Pi today evening, can u update and check. Should fix. Certain configurations of systems being used are facing issues.

      • chandru mehta says:

        the most unfortunate part of the issue was is one cannot seamlessly move over to Kite incase PI has a issue . One has to build the day’s charting from scratch . I hope you understand the frustration .

        I had sometime back suggested of having some tools / study for Pi & Kite to be common rectangle , trend line drawing , I know the libraries for that are different , see if you can incorporate a trend line which is can vary in length like in Pi .

        You could see if you can have a buy sell in the pop out since the screen size is big . There is no other substitute to PI charts in this market in India . Its the best but there are many frustrating moments that need to be addressed soon.

  232. chandru mehta says:

    Nitin ,

    The other day another customer mentioned a problem in one of your blogs and you casually dismissed it , I too faced the same problem and agreed with him .It evoked no answer from you after that.

    Its been a year most of your answers are typical , sterotyped . I suggest you and team zerodha stop treating your customers as the uneducated lot and non IT . Maybe most of your customers are tech savvy but not programming savvy .

    CPU issues , broadband issues are your typical issues . If broadband & connectivity issues were not there at your end you would have not dished out that email blaming service providers . Zerodha has a typical response of broadband connectivity at customers end .Please stop that and start maintaining your System & Servers to avoid a crunch . I have 2 megs of speed and so do many of your customers . For your kind info a basic 3g service of Airtel is good enough also.Your software is great but if it lets down customers at crucial points you may land into some serious issues .Trust me i have enough to prove that .

    My laptop is dedicated to Trading and has no other software , CPU is out of the question .

  233. Raghunathan says:

    Can we have user defined columns in watchlist like that in Nest?
    eg; column name OL
    OL=Open-Low
    Column Name OH
    OH= Open-High

    This will help me sort which are the all the scrips with Open Low or Open High.

  234. Purushottam says:

    Hi Nitin,

    Downloaded the latest PI release. Supertrend indicator is not working. Gives unhandled exception error.

    Please also let us know the features that are incorporated as part of this new release.

    Regards

  235. chandru mehta says:

    well the update says still 22/2/2016 still . is the update new and date old ?

    • No it should show 25/05/2016. If check for updates is not working, suggest you to uninstall and install the 1st april release in q.zerodha.com and then click on check for updates.

  236. chandru mehta says:

    what i meant i q back office and the web page in q is displaying “VERSION 1.0.0.6 – RELEASED ON 22/02/2016 ” .

    I am assuming the notice is not updated in the back office and the version is new ?

    • Ah yeah.. the full installer is still the old one on Q. We will change that by next week with a bunch of new additions. Until then, you can download what is available on Q and then click on check for updates. You need to see date as 25/05/2016 in the about pi button under help menu.

  237. Dinesh T says:

    Nithin,

    Pi was working fine until yesterday. The moment i login after two factor auth, its not responding at all.
    One thing i obsvered 2-factor auth is not changing – same questions is been asked again and again out of five.
    since morning i’ve loged-in many time to same two questions are been asked.
    This was not the case before.

    I’ve the latest laptop windows – 7 with high config and high internet speed.

    Today I got new update on PI – that doesn’t work either.

    On total i’m not able to use PI.

  238. Abhishek lingras says:

    Hello Nitin Sir, I would like see FIBONACCI EXTENSION as it is most useful tool for technical analysis.
    Thanks,

  239. chandru mehta says:

    thanks , the patch did work . Smooth trading day today.

  240. Prakash kothari says:

    After updating today pi works fine. Thanks

  241. Naveen says:

    Hi,

    Please include Tick charts in next Pi release.

    Regards,
    Naveen

  242. chandru mehta says:

    Just checked “Q” . there is a new update for Pi dated VERSION 1.0.0.6 – RELEASED ON 27/05/2016 .

    Is this the patch or its a totally new version of PI ?

  243. saurabh says:

    Hello Nithin,

    It would be very awesome if we can use cross hair without keeping the LMB click. its irritating to keep it clicked always. and the other thing, the DATA BOX should show OHLC and RSI at same time. Its again irritating to move mouse up and down to see RSI and OHLC data.

  244. saurabh says:

    Good Luck!!

  245. Lakhbinder Singh says:

    Made huge loss due to Pi hanging frequently while trading crude . In the evening session when volatility increase, as you place a trade Pi hangs and show NOT RESPONDING , you get trapped and cannot get out of the trade. ZERODHA claims you can trade like 2020 , Pi – Trade like it’s 2020 can check the homepage.
    Dear Traders just want to know who is responsible for the losses when a trader makes losses due to platform provided by the broker fails to respond, after placing a trade.

    • saurabh says:

      Ya, same happened with me too. 2-3 days back. I was not able to get out of trade and booked additional loss of 10000+ . Its bad. Now have to think before taking some trade… Hope they fix the problem asap rather than sending apology letter. Bcoz money cant be recovered with the letters.

      • Lakhbinder Singh says:

        The platform a broker provide is their product. The trader risks through the medium provided by his broker .What if the medium or product fails and the trader makes loss.

    • We had sent an SMS and updated this message on bulletin to update pi if you are facing any issues. Check this: https://zerodha.com/marketintel/Bulletin/177

  246. shashikumar says:

    I have recently started new account.
    First download of PI was easy. Now I have downloaded on a laptop so earlier version on desktop has currupted and not able to download it again.

    Far a lay person not conversant with software there should be easy version .

    I am just not able to follow the instructions, what to do.

  247. Venkatesh says:

    Hi Zerodhaa Team,

    Congratulations for a great application in the form of Pi which is sleek, user friendly and also intuitive in its own way.

    As a first time user of the app and a technical analyst (using Amibroker) for sometime now, had a query. Used the app to have a look at the Daily chart of “Astral” for the max period available in the application. As we can see, Astral has a split / bonus around mid Sept 2010 and in end Aug 2013. That chart hence needs to be adjusted to reflect this. How can one do it in the application itself? If not, would Zerodha independently update the prices at its back end to reflect it?

    Also would love to know, how to have some variations of basic charting tools like “Extended Trend Lines” / Ray etc. Are they currently available in Pi / would they be added in the coming months?

    Please let me know at convenience. Thanks.

  248. Sukesh says:

    Hello,

    I am not able to find BankNifty weekly contracts in Pi. Also these weekly contracts are not reflecting in the Zerodha SPAN calculator.

    Thanks
    Sukesh

  249. DN0438 says:

    Hi,
    It is very disheartening to note that MIS order type is not enabled for Bank Nifty weekly contracts in Pi. Due to this a lot of potential opportunities for profitable trades are lost. For professional trader like me it makes a big difference.

  250. Bhushan says:

    Hi Nithin Sir,
    Now do we need to feed the transaction password for every trade in Kite…Yesterday I had to feed the transaction password every time I want to put an order…

  251. Ashutosh says:

    Is there a future plan to stop support to NEST platform to shift Zerodha clients to pi? Or will they officially coexist? Nest platform is common across many brokerage houses and for many new clients who are familiar with it, the thought of using an exclusive in-house brokerage platform is at all not comfortable.

  252. rajesh pardeshi says:

    hi nitin
    when will supertrend be available on pi
    please make it available as soon as possible.

  253. Sahil says:

    Hi nitin
    Although pi is a very good platform but it need some improvements which are listed as follows:
    1. Mouse scroll need to move the chart not resize it. Resize can be done easily with keyboard keys.
    2. You must add weekly and monthly chart capabilities.
    3. Hot keys for executing orders fast. Current procedure for executing orders is very lenghy.

    Please add the above capabilities to the pi after adding these pi will be the no. 1 trading platform in india

  254. chandru mehta says:

    Is there a problem with BSE feed accepting orders on zerodha . I placed an order and it went through, but when i tried to close positions/ square off it did not show up on the order book and i had to complete it through trade & call . This happened twice. I had to log out and check in Kite it did not show up there . Can you please check this in the system.Timings you can match with call & trade.

    NSE was working fine.

    Is there a problem ?the charts are working fine.

  255. chandru mehta says:

    i am assuming this must have been asked before.. any reason why no Pivot points in Bse charts for equities.

    • End of day charts are still not available for BSE.

      • chandru mehta says:

        correct me if i am wrong , does that mean pivot points are not available even during trading hours live . When i right click on nse charts during intraday live they show up pivot points , but that is not the case in live trading in bse charts.

        • Pivot points are calculated end of day basis, even for NSE.

          • chandru mehta says:

            repeating my self for a clear answer

            a)when i right click on any equities on BSE charts during day trading -LIVE i don’t get to see PIVOT Points.For example i draw SBI BSE charts – 5 mins and i right click the mouse “i don’t see a option for pivot points ” in the right click menu.

            b) when i right click my mouse on any equities on NSE charts during day trading -LIVE” i do see PIVOT Points”.For example i draw SBI BSE charts – 5 mins and i right click the mouse ” i do see a option for pivot points ”

            Any specific reason why this has been left out in BSE

            • Chandru,

              To plot pivot points on the chart, we need previous days OHLC. The formula used is
              R3 = H + 2( Pivot – L)
              R2 = Pivot + ( H – L )
              R1 = ( 2 x Pivot ) – L
              Pivot = ( H + L + C ) / 3
              S1 = ( 2 x Pivot ) – H
              S2 = Pivot – ( H – L )
              S3 = L – 2( H – Pivot )

              Since we currently don’t store previous day’s OHLC for BSE stocks, you are not able to see the pivot points.

  256. nitin says:

    Is there any problem for charts – both in Pi and kite web ? Market watch is updating fine, but charts are not updating at my end.

  257. Sanjeev says:

    I like pi very much. Here are some suggestions to make it better .

    1. It will be great if there is a fixed line at 30 and 70 in RSI, by default, as we have in NEST.
    2. If 78.6 % level is also added to the Fibonacci retracement tool. Or if we could modify it as per our requirement.
    3. Currently the lines are of one colour only. It will be better if users can choose different colours for different lines. I mean , if I want to draw one line in blue and another in red or any other colour, this is not possible right now.
    4. Some times the actual high or the low of a particular candle is not showing whereas NEST shows almost all extreme or sudden spikes on the chart. This is not rare. It happens very frequently. Therefore, the chart becomes deceiving. For e.g., today’s open and low of nifty future june , till 11:57 AM is 8105.10 . But this is not showing on the chart on pi, whereas it is showing on nseindia.com and NEST .

    Another example is in Bank nifty june future . The high is 17724 at 9:15 Am but pi shows 17700 on the chart. And at 11:43 AM the low is 17593 whereas pi chart is showing it as 17596.05 .

    It will be great if these issues are taken care of .

    Thanks

  258. saurabh says:

    Plz add continuous line or arrow..its irritating to click on lines again and again to draw. And should also have different color pallete to draw as many drawing of same color makes no difference in the chart.

    Thankyou.

  259. chandru mehta says:

    Do you think it could be possible for you to provide ” realtime ” scanners for trends either in PI or Kite? during market hours . Is that on your list of things to do or its a expensive investment.

    Currently i do it manually and there’s a 50:50 chance of getting it right which may result in profit/loss deal. I’ve been playing around a lot with the software and i sense there’s a opportunity .if we can get a little bit of help realtime one can focus on other factors .Ive been suggesting that you could explore a premium service . for example Currently Open trade is a premium service and based on that response i am sure you may like to consider charging for “realtime scanners” in intraday trading .

  260. khraw says:

    I am a newly registered with your portal this month and regret to inform you that till date i couldn’t login to Pi installed on my Laptop. After entering user id, password and secret questions , always got this error ” Not able to login please restart again to continue” . I have installed and reinstalled the same for several times, got the same error everytime. I called once the customer service centre but received no help till date. Pls help me in this

    Client id RK3237

    Thanks

  261. Raj Patel says:

    Hi,
    Pi – Bank Nifty weekly contracts are not coming correctly for adding into market watch. Even if i select 23june expiry, it shows 16june contracts in the list for selection.

    Thanks,
    0889

    • Siva says:

      You might have not updated to latest version of Pi, goto help menu->check for updates and update to latest version. Once it is updated make sure the current version is dated 30/5/2016 by going to about Zerodha Pi under help menu.

  262. chandru mehta says:

    trading from the charts .

    its a very useful product that Pi has , do you have any plans to make it more user friendly like for example

    qty>product >trigger price >>>stop loss price (both options) or stop loss market .
    The reason being
    a) i have my own stop loss price in mind
    b) i can simultaneously place a buy>sell or sell >buy order in one go in advance .is that possible ?
    When you place a intraday order you have to go back to menu or shortcut keys . i know you have snapquote to do that ..but its not trading from charts.

    • Venu says:

      You can place SL-M orders from the chart on Pi. You can’t place orders simultaneously. You’ll have to place 2 orders.

      • chandru mehta says:

        thanks and agree on 2 orders .. my other question still remains whether in addition to the current SL Market / Limit , another (drop down option) be provided / inputting /placing our own stop loss Price in trading from charts based on our calculations.is that possible ?

        • Donno if I got this question correctly, but if you are placing a buying order above the current price or selling below the current price on trade from charts, it automatically converts it into a SL-M order. So if a stock is at 100, if you don’t hold anything and place an order to sell at 97, it automatically becomes a SL-M order.

  263. Raviraj says:

    Hi Zerodha team,

    some questions for few new features on PI
    1. As of now , maximum number of charts i can open is 12, are you going to increase this limit . I tend to use more charts and it limits diff charts that can be opened at once
    2. Is it possible for charts to always open in new floating window so that we dont have to do pop out active window every time chart is opened.
    3. Is it possible to save the list of all charts that are opened , so that when i close and reopen PI , i dont have to reopen all the charts .

    • Venu says:

      1. We’ll give your feedback to our developers.
      2. As of now no, you’ll have to pop out the chart
      3. This feature is already available. In Pi, go to View ==> User Setting ==> Marketwatch ==> Select “Save charts in Workspace/Exit”.

  264. chandru mehta says:

    I am not being allowed to sell 25 shares of SBI with message being mentioned as auto sqaure of rejected . While i am being able to sell 1000 shares of SBI in Edelweiss .Can Zerodha explain ?

    • Venu says:

      If you were trying to short it under MIS, then the order could have gotten rejected as Intraday was blocked briefly due to the increased volatility. It was later allowed as the volatility subsided.

      • chandru mehta says:

        a)How can you block access to my funds and not allow me to trade in a market. I can understand that margin limits can be reduced but under which rule have you completely blocked access to my funds for trading in MIS Indtraday.

        b) Volatility is not greater than circuit limits provided by Stock exchanges.

        c) Even in the most volatile stocks margins are reduced for safety. You have no authority to block my funds . It means you have closed down services for that share / for that period . legally this is not tenable unless as informed by the Market regulator which is not the case.

        d) Please provide me the rule in BSE / NSE that a customer access to funds for trading will be 100% completely blocked for mis intraday trading in Volatile markets. Please email me or provide me the link here that provides you the authority to do so @ 100% funds block.
        e) Why has Edelweiss or other broking houses not done so.This means Zerodha has intentionally caused loss to a customer. it could also mean that zerodha for personal gains has used customer funds as margins and hence is unable to provide regular margins.
        e) Your response is not acceptable and i will take this futher to ensure that other customers in future dont get affected by Zerodha’s false statements .

        • Venu says:

          1. Access to your funds were not blocked. The facility to place a specific type of order were blocked as a risk containment measure. At all points of time you were free to use the funds to trade in the other product codes that were available. Additionally, when the volatility subsided, the product code (MIS) was made available.

          2. As a Stock Broker, we are allowed to take certain meaures so as to ensure that no debits happen in client accounts. MIS – is a leveraged product. So, even with the Exchanges having circuits, a client’s account can very well go into debit. In order to counter that it was blocked briefly.

          3. Your claim that the funds were blocked is untrue. NSE/BSE doesn’t set rules for a broker or for the kind of leverage that a broker has to provide for Intraday trading. It’s a business risk every broker takes.

          4. I wouldn’t be able to comment on the RMS policies of other brokers. In the past as well, on days when we have believed the volatility will be substantial, margins have not been provided.

          • chandru mehta says:

            a) Volatility for Brexit day 24th June was know well in advance. Did you not choose to inform clients on 23rd that MIS Intraday trading would be blocked and other facilities would be available. What stopped you from informing clients in advance ?

            b) I fail to understand how i would have lost more that 9000 rs in intraday trading . Can you provide me a example to prove your point ? If you were to place to reduce margins on 23rd June itself there is no calculation that would have made me a loss of more than 9000 on that day.

            For example from the current SBI x 11 times margin you could have brought it down to SBI X 3 times ( example ) worst case scenario . You website has already a disclamer on this .

            Rs 9000 ( 30% )after haircut could have been 6000 x3 times = 18000 divided by SBI price range fluction180 – 230 which would have not resulted a loss more than 3000 – 4000 rupees even if circuit breakers came into play.The amount would be well in place for covering losses.

            Are you saying other trading Houses are foolish and have not seen this through . I have stocks with Edelwiess and they have a haircut & x 7 times margin in place. Brexit or volatility it was business as usual.

            Zerodha has a faulty policy in place and a apology is the need of the hour . You have become a most Undependable Service Provider always blaming others like bandwidth vendors when the entire day the link was down , crashing at crucial trading times. This seems all selective and fishy .

            • Venu says:

              As I said earlier, I wouldn’t be able to comment on the RMS policies of other brokerage firms. I can only comment on what we have to offer.
              The decision to not allow MIS was taken after seeing the increased volatility in the Asian markets early this morning. Do note that the RMS team reserves the right to make any changes in the policies relating to margins, also re-iterating that once the volatility reduced, MIS was enabled.

  265. chandru mehta says:

    MIS orders can be placed with 80% margin. What this means is that if you have Rs. 80, you can buy/sell for Rs. 100. This is only for intraday EQ.

    This is the response i get from Zerodha .

    My cash balance is Rs 9000 and i dont get to trade 10 shares of SBI -MIS Intraday . Zerdoha says volatility.please look into your backend system and provide me with a correct response .

  266. Raj says:

    On 24th, the RMS volatility message kept popping up quite a few times in the first hour or so, the popup gets displayed on the middle of the screen, this usually happens whenever there is any notification ..

    I understand it is important to repeat these as some people who log in late might have missed it but would it be possible to have a checkbox or something which would disable popups once someone has read it and does not want the notification popup to repeat.

  267. Naveen says:

    Hi,

    Requesting you to include supply and Demand zone creating tools in coming updates, so that we can draw them fast and it is a BASIC TOOL, with the present tools its very difficult.

    Thanks

  268. Hi Zerodha,

    I’m not able to see the Super trend pattern in PI but it is available in kite app. When can it will available in PI.

  269. Niks says:

    My Pi doesn’t work in my office. I have to use kite, it’s not that I am Complaining but just wanted it to works. I want to trade through it. My office has Mac fee installed. FYI, even my Trade Tiger didn’t work in my office so I know it’s my settings need to be changed.. Can any one help what has to be changed.

    Regards…

  270. chandru mehta says:

    sbi nse shows a test run on the chart that you may have undertaken yesterday . is there any particular reason it was done on nse and not bse and not on any other equity ? . if you are done is it possible that the chart be done with since its interfering with the normal display & template of the next day sbi chart.

    • chandru mehta says:

      correcting my typo mistake , the test chart still shows in sbi/bse , if there is a way to remove that part so that charting could become in sync.

      b) Directional movement system – is it possible to enhance colors there , blue & green look too similar to diffrentiate

  271. Naveen says:

    Requesting you to include supply and Demand zone creating tools in coming updates, so that we can draw them fast and it is BASIC TOOL, with the present tools its very difficult.

  272. jaykrishna says:

    hi
    am using pi v1.0.0.6 but its is not showing open interest
    in open interest column its just showing 0.
    please help .

    • Siva says:

      If you notice carefully open interest is displayed appropriately but % change in open interest will be showing as 0, even this will be fixed shortly.

  273. Amitava says:

    Hi Nitin

    Awesome job you and your team did. All the concepts we imagined, you incorporated and gifted us the best platform till date.
    I have 2 questions :
    1. In the home page we see an algo chart signalling buy call with colored volume bars, kindly inform which chart & algo it is and how can we obtain this.
    2. I can determine trendy stocks, but I need an algo to suggest the entry and exit, kindly advise the best strategy from the list of offered.

  274. HI Zerodha,

    Can i see multiple marketwatch in PI.

  275. Arup Das says:

    applied the patch. Seems it’s unstable.. PI stopped twice.. however have to check during market hours….

    But thanks for the update – quite a few important updates..

  276. Debkrishna says:

    i am facing a basic issue in PI . Changing from one time frame to another time frame in a live market the last live candle data is inaccurate , Once i close the chart and open a new one then everything looks fine and the error miraculously vanishes . This only happens on live market but when markets are closed there is no such issues . Please fix this .

    • algogeek says:

      Assume if we change the candle time frame from 1 minute to 5 minute the current running candle (open, high & low) data will change according to 5 minute candle, please reply if you are facing any other error or let us know with which data you are comparing, you can write email to [email protected]

  277. RAJENDRA says:

    In pi software pls include 60(1 hour) minutes chart,yearly charts & one more thing is that pls make pi not to hangup or busy.

  278. Digvijay.Patil says:

    “Of all the brokers I have worked with Zerodha is the best.”
    I wrote so because I don’t want reader to think that I am showing faults only.

    Zerodha Pi lacks in some key points
    1) Snapping points on chart – there are no snapping points associated with candles on chart. It is very useful feature. Plotting trend lines & most of other tools need snap points.

    2) Personalization on charts – We need to change colors & thicknesses of any line we plot on chart like trend line, horizontal, vertical lines. also we need to change colors and thicknesses of all different lines in bollinger bands.

    3) Put Horizontal and Vertical line tools in toolbar. I don’t understand why these two have to be in right click options ?

    4) Continuous Trend Line – Trend line should be an arrow which should start at first point but should not stop at second point, instead it should pass through second point & keep going.

    5) Mouse button Zoom controls should be improved.

    The reason I said whatever I said in first line is all these points are comparatively small against what Zerodha is offering in all other Trading experience.

    I have used Zerodha Pi and Sharekhans Tradetiger. Tradetiger is very user friendly.
    Right now If It takes me 2 minutes to study and take decision in TradeTiger, for zerodha Pi, sadly, it takes almost 10-12 minuts. Thats irritating & can cause loss of opportunity.

    BTW AI & Backtesting are great functions which are not available in TradeTiger.

  279. Kardam Kapoor says:

    Hey, when will Pi be launched on Mac OS ? Eagerly waiting for it.

  280. chandru mehta says:

    are you providing new updates of PI this week ,What new additions ?

  281. seema_c says:

    Dear Sir,
    I am not able to login in PI. the error message is “operation time out”. I
    am facing this problem since last two days. My id id DS4074.
    Kindly help.

  282. Ramakrishna says:

    I am using pi since 2 months, but I don’t know how to use the charts for buy & sell signals. Do you have any instruction manual or tutorial?

  283. S. Uma says:

    Sir, Please enable one minute chart (Historical) for the past months contracts also, at least in the case of Nifty futures. Only the current month contract is available.
    Thanking you.

  284. BOPANNA says:

    can you please figure out a tool bar or a button or at least something easier way of removing indicator from the charts. Its very frustrating when you want to change or remove indicators

  285. chandru mehta says:

    thanks for the PI upgrade , color lines in edit was the most required .

  286. Latesh Narula says:

    Great job , Mr. Kamath . in the latest update of Pi.. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to you to add few things this time in the new update .
    Gann Angle , Gann Fan with degrees . PitchFork . One more thing I wud like to highlight is that ..
    high and low indicator .. for example if a stock makes a new high in the market watch , a pop up kinda thng pops up. That wud be very beneficial to traders .

  287. saurabh says:

    I am not able to view historical charts 15 mints.. not even for a month.. Need it .. Plz do it…

  288. saurabh says:

    Just showing todays charts.. plz do it asap…..

    • saurabh says:

      None of the historical charts showing.. Just showing current day chart… Not working.. Other updates are fine.. Goood work done.. Bt need the historical charts to be available asap.. Plz fix the but Nithin Ji…

  289. Deoraj Shukla says:

    your latest update dated 19July 2016 —-

    Previous release was working fine but when I updated it yesterday dated 20th jul 2016. It starts getting hanged after login. I did everything to solve the issue but to no success. I wrote to your support team regarding it but no solution.
    Could you please give attention to it.

  290. Raja Rajan says:

    Please the provision of upgrading and downgrading the software realeases, so that if we encounter any major bugs in the latest realeases, we can dowgrade to the earlier version until the bugs are completely fixed in the latest version???