Pre-market/Post-market/After-market Orders
Traders,
1. Pre-market Orders:
NSE started the concept of pre-open session a few months back to minimize the volatility of securities during the market opening every day. Between 9:00 AM to 9:15 AM is when the pre-market session is conducted on NSE. During the pre-market session for the first 8 minutes (between 9:00 AM and 9:08 AM) orders are collected, modified or cancelled. You can place limit orders/market orders. After 9.08 AM to 9.15 AM no new orders can be placed, orders placed are matched and trades confirmed. So technically you can place orders only for the first 8 minutes and only on equity segment. More on Pre-market orders on this link.
2. Post-market Orders:
Similar to pre-market orders, post-market orders are allowed only for equity trading. The post-market session or closing session is open from 3:40 PM to 4:00 PM. During this session, people can place buy/sell orders in equity (delivery segment using the CNC product code) at the market price, but do note that even if you place a market order it will be placed on the exchange at the closing price. So for example, if the closing price of Reliance at 3:30 PM is Rs. 800, between 3:40 PM and 4:00 PM, you can place market orders to buy/sell Reliance at market price (will be taken at Rs. 800). Post-market session is not very active and you can look at the movement of stocks by opening the marketwatch window from 3:40 PM to 4:00 PM.
3. After-market Orders (AMO):
This facility is available on Zerodha for people who can’t actively track the markets from 9:15 AM to 3:30 PM. You can place orders any time from 3:45 PM to 8:57 AM for NSE & 3:45 to 8:59 AM for BSE (until just before the pre-opening session) for the equity segment and up to 9:10 AM for F&O. So you could plan your trades and place your orders before the market opens. After-market orders can be placed on all the exchange segments. Please note that if you place any after-market order between 9:15 AM and 3:45 PM, they will be rejected. AMO is allowed only between 3:45 PM and 8:59 AM for equity and up to 9:10 AM for F&O. For currency derivatives, AMO is allowed from 3.45 PM the previous day to 8:59 AM only.
After-market orders are also allowed for commodity trading. After-market orders for commodity can be placed anytime during the day, orders will be sent to the exchange at 9:00 AM (MCX opening). So if you place an after market order at 8:59 it will get sent today and if you place it at 9:01 AM it’ll get sent tomorrow.
To place an AMO, click on the Buy(B) or Sell(S) for the scrip, click on “More options” at the bottom of the order window and select “AMO”. You can look at the image below to understand better:
Placing an AMO
If you are looking at getting the best fill first thing in the morning, placing a market order at opening is a much better idea than using AMO. We typically have thousands of orders as AMO, which are sent together to the exchange at market opening and this might take a few seconds for the orders to be placed. AMO is a feature mainly for the investing community, who can’t get online during market hours.
Happy Trading,
Can I place bank nifty future order at market price between 9.00 AM to 9.08 AM
Hi Sanjay, F&O contracts don’t trade in pre-open session. You can place AMO orders until 9:10 AM and normal orders once the markets open.
Hi,
How to buy a stock every hour at market price? Any way to implement this?
Regards,
Mahesh
How does it work for a stock which is going through upper circuit for multiple sessions, as a user when I place a order at 09:00 in Kite, will it be same as any other use placing order at 09:02? If I want to increase chance of buying a stock which might be a upper circuit stock, is manually adding order at 09:00 is enough or is there a better faster way?
Hi,
Can I place AMO in banknifty and nifty?
What if market opens with gap up or gap down?
Why AMO is not allowed with market price?
Hi Annoop, yes you can place AMO for nifty and banknifty. It is allowed for all product types, i.e. CNC, MIS, NRML. You can also place AMO order with limit / market price.
Pmo ki jankari d
I need AMO PMO and bracket order, how can I get it from zerodha, currently I m getting only gtt orders
Hi Rajeev, we’ve explained the pricess for placing AMO orders here. There is no seperate order type for pre and post market orders, you can place regular orders during these sessions.
I placed an AMO order for the stock at the rate of 20% upper circuit. Any guarantee for the stock it will definitely buy for me.?
Can I place a F&O market order between 9:08am-9:15am?
Hi Vishal, AMO orders in the F&O segment can be placed until 9:10 AM. Regular orders can be placed once the market open at 9:15 AM.
Dear Sir,
Suppose, I want to order some shares in premarket sessions, then how can I order and what is the time period to execute my order. Also, how can I check that what orders are executed in market and on which rate. So that I can get confirmed that my order will be 100% executed. I hope you understand my point sir
Dear Sir,
Suppose, I want to order some shares in premarket sessions, then how can I order and what is the time period to execute my order. Also, how can I check that what orders are executed in market and on which rate. So that I can get confirmed that my order will be 100% executed. I hope you understand my point sir.
Hi,
Can I place intraday buy/sell order for a particular scrip at the pre-trading session? Like around 9:10 AM.
Thanks.
Hi Prashant, intraday orders can be placed in the pre-market session. More here: https://support.zerodha.com/category/trading-and-markets/trading-faqs/market-sessions/articles/what-are-pre-market-and-post-market-sessions-and-orders
Hi, I have placed few AMO orders on the previous day for the next day but when I checked them just before the market opens, the orders were in cancelled status. Not sure what was the issue. Can anyone please tell me if you faced the similar issue and what could be the reason for cancel?
Hi Kamesh, could you please create a ticket at support.zerodha.com so our team can check and assist?
What if market open gapup or gapdown then what will happen to AMO
Hey Kaustubh, it depends on the type of order you have placed. A market order will execute at the best available price in the market. While if you have placed a limit order, then it’ll only execute at the price specified or a better price. You can learn more on how the market and limit orders work here.
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I have 2000Rs in my Zeroda kite wallet, I want to place a bid for 4 different stocks, each worth 2000rs, one of it gets executed on next day market hours right? which ever bid is less, that will get executed and stocks order gets placed. please clarify as I am new
Hey Sharanya, could you please create a ticket at support.zerodha.com and elaborate your query clearly? If you are placing an order for 4 different stocks you will have to maintain sufficient funds for its execution in your Kite wallet.
AMO order I could succeed.
Thanks
Yesterday I placed an AMO order for Buy- JSW steel 100 nos at limit of 760 Rs.
Today when the market opened at 9.15 I found JSW steel was bought at 750 against 760.The stock completelty went down and I had serious loss. How it was purchased at 750.ANy body can tell?. What was the mistake
?
Hey Jagadeesha, could you please create a ticket at support.zerodha.com, so we can have this checked and clarified for you?
How Can a After market order can be repeated automatically daily?, because stocks trading in low volume, the order was cancelled by the Exchange in the End of Trading Session
Hey Vignesh, the order cannot be repeated automatically daily. You’ll have to manually place the orders again.
Hi @nitin kamat the pre order link is unavailable, please update it thanks
Hey Sudarshan, the link is updated 🙂
Which order will execute first if I make an AMO order for sale between 5 PM and 8 AM on January 17, 2022, and another Regular order at 9:01 AM on January 18, 2022?
Hey, order execution depends on the price specified by you can market factors at the time. Using AMO or placing an order manually at 9 AM won’t make much difference.
can i place stop loss market(SLM) order on IPO between 9:45 to 10:00 AM on listing day to be executed after 10:00 AM?? or i must have been place after 10:00 AM??
Hey Alpesh, you will not be able to place Stoploss orders before trading starts at 10 AM. You can however place a GTT order anytime you wish to. You can learn more about GTT orders here.
Please go through below mentioned details . I booked the order at 9.00.01 hrs, but the system shows the order booking time as 9.00.10hrs .
Why the system showed the different time?
Time Status Exch. time Exch. update Qty. Filled qty. Avg. price Price
09:00:10 OPEN 09:00:10 09:00:10 825 0 0 13.3
09:00:10 OPEN PENDING — — 825 0 0 13.3
09:00:02 VALIDATION PENDING — — 825 0 0 13.3
09:00:01 PUT ORDER REQ RECEIVED — — 825 0 0 13.3
Please clarify.
regards
M Murugan
Hey Murugan, best if you create a ticket on our Support Portal
not able to place amo order for selling after 3.45pm and getting error kindly place order after 5.00pm why?
Hey Parth, if your account is non-POA, the AMO orders can be placed from 5 PM onwards. We’ve explained this here.
Can i take option trade (Bank Nifty/Nifty) order with AMO market in Zerodha Kite.
Hello Team,
I was trying top place bank nifty buy option call at market price, but my order is getting executed only after 2 to 3 seconds delay.. Why so due to which i am facing 30 to 50 points difference some times.
which may end up in loss.
let me know how to over come this?
i am unable to order silver on mcx……..my account code IRY760……….i have also trfd rs 25,000/- to commodity account……..it is showing commodity no active
Can we place pre-order market order and post market order on Zerodha?
AMO order if placed to buy and the market open in gap down so will the order get executed.
i still have not under stand if relaince closing is 1500 and have placed the Order AMO at the same price and the next day market drop with a gap opening of Rs 1490….will the order will get executed or canceled.
Hello,
If I place AMO at market order, at what price the order will get executed? Is it closing price of previous day or opening price of next day?
Please reply @zerodha
Hello,
I had a normal trading order open around 500 @ 480 3:29:02 PM on 29th June 2021, which was executed in the post market partially 119 @ 486.05.
question is can normal trading hours open order be automatically executed in post market with a avg price?
Yes.
hello sir…how to place a order buy above the high or sell below the low in pre market session… ???
Greetings,
Please clear below mentioned doubts.
1. Can I sell My CNC purchase same day the next day, instead of waiting for DEMAT procedure.
2. Please explain BTST or STBT transaction with ZERODHA.
Thanks in advance.
In between 9 to 9:08 there is movement in stock prices, but in Kite watch list i am not able to see that. please start this facility in kite and in app.
My sell order has been triggered by GTT and it was rejected for authorization through CDSL. However, I have authorised later after market has closed. This happened today (29.04.21). So, how can I sell this now. Under Holding Tab, it is showing as triggered but it has not been executed yet. I am a new user. Please help me.
Hey Kaushik, we send an alert as soon as the GTT is triggered and failed because of lack of CDSL auth so that you can place a fresh order during market hours. For now, you can place a fresh order and authorise the sale.
Hi,
AMO or PreOpening which will get executed faster? like I am placing AMO order and next day at pre open some orders are placed. which will get higher priority?
Regards,
Manish R Gurnaney
Hi, Can I place intraday SL M order (buy or sell) in AMO?
how to place pre-market order @ zerodha .Kindly make a proper tutorial for youtube.
Thanks.
I have placed a limit order for F&O, but the order got executed with any consideration to the Limit I provided.
Above issue is for AMO orders
Hey Mamta, if you place a limit buy order above market price, or sell order below market price, the order executes at the current market price because it is a better price. This is how limit orders work.
What about the charges of post market??
Where i can see RS ( Relative Strength) Indicator. Not RSI just RS
1) Where i can see my stop loss order?. Means where i an see the orders where i put the stop loss and the order where i did not put the stop loss.
Is there any extra charges AMO order?
daily I have to use AMO order and I have to place place market limit and there enter my limit price but last many time trigger price above / below my limit price?
please inform me why not place order at same price as I have put in my limit order.
It’s not good for me due to order triggered above / below at my limit price.
What time does Zerodha AMO for Coffee Day open on Saturday in NSE and BSE ?
Can we place more than one amo order for a stock? For example if stock price is 100 and i’m placing amo of 102 and another one for 105 just in case the first one doesn’t get executed.
Future order place with AMO, but disabled the the stop loss field .. currently trances are in pending since not opened the market yet .. how can I set the stop loss for future trade while it’s allowed me to complete with leverage…
Hey… I place an AMO for BALAXI yesterday. The shares were bought this morning at Rs.134.75. But guess what the shares never went to 134.75. How did you purchase the shares at a price that it did not go to?
How can I buy/sell shares at market opening price?
I am trying to buy upper circuit share since one month from zerodha online account.but not even a single order is executed.I tried different timing and different qty but same result.
Than someone suggested to try MARWADI broker Ltd they have good result for upper circuit shares.
so place same order at same time with same quantity with Zerodha and Marwadi both.It was unbelievable that my Marwadi order is executed and Zerodha didn’t.
Can you plz explain this? Looks like something fishy in zerodha.
I have all the document proving this both transaction just in case if you need it.
Rahul, if the share is in upper circuit, you getting execution is very unlikely. If someone is able to guarantee execution, that seems fishy. 🙂
The last paragraph is pretty conflicting to what one finds on the internet, please clarify –
For someone who is stuck with a share with lower circuit and wants to exit, what would be the best option
1.) Placing a market order AMO at 3:45 pm. ( Popular opinion)
2.) Placing a Limit order AMO at the lower circuit at 3:45 pm.
3.) Just placing an AMO order anywhere between 3:45 pm to 8:57 am as time doesn’t matter.
4.) Placing a Market order at 9:00 Am (ASAP) (As suggested by the above article)
I have a genuine query regarding placing an order. If I place an order in AMO and that does not gets executed and due to upper circuit remains in pending order list till closing hours. Meanwhile, during market hours, to increase the chances of getting stocks, I make a new order. Now the question is – will this new order be standing in last of order book of upper circuit price ?
Because if this new order stands last in order book, then there are close to zero chances of my order to be executed.
Hello can i buy a share for MIS i.e intraday in AMO and sell it after the market opens at 9.15am -3.30pm.Please Clarify
Yes
when I want to buy shares that increasing-price value at 9 am or regular trading time, purchased shares are getting cancelled automatically. how to buy shares which are increasing their values ?
Not sure what your question is. Best reach our support desk for help.
ht3716 kindly not i sold 25 shares of ambuja cement in nse today 10 @191 15 @ 192.95 nad squared up later on at 191.75 the square up by you is shown at bse instead of nse if you see my kit holding every thing is in nse i dont i dont under stand how this mistake has occured at your side you are requested to do the need ful
Hi, does zerodha allow users to save chart studies for each stock separately?
I had placed an order at 15:19 hrs today but it didn’t get approved, however, the amount was deducted from my funds. I canceled the order and placed it again at 15:57 hrs. under post-market orders. I need to understand that if my order will be approved at the same rate I had placed the order or it will be approved at the price at the time of opening tomorrow. Please guide.
Can we place AMO for Options buying/Selling.
If yes for example if I place options AMO at 10000 & previous day close at 10000. Now what if market opens at 10100?
Will it buy at 10100?
Hi,
if i place pre open market order between 9 to 9:08 on prev close, After 9:15 when order confirmed will it place order on prev day close or current open market?
for example xxx trader prev close is 100 rs, nd market opens at 104 rs, if i place pre market order at 100(prev close) for buy order, what price it will consider?
Is there any problem if so many orders are placed in a day?
No.
Can I use SL or Anything to sell the stock if it reaches certain profit , Eg I’m buying a share for 100 rs and can I instruct to sell it when it reached 120 rs
More on Pre-market orders on this link.
The link isn’t working. Please update
If I AMO order place on market price. And it not exacute beacuse market volatility so high. Is it possible?
Hi,
I placed a CNC AMO order at MRKT price at around 9 AM today in FRETAIL share(which is having UC). It got converted to LIMIT order at 9:07 AM, but still not got executed. Did I do anything wrong?
Why I have been charged brokerage for CNC Orders??? Can you please explain what does this mean “where you have partially squared off your CNC position before the end of the trading day”
Explained here, Santosh.
Hi,
Suppose today, i have bought 10 stocks of Reliance @ 1000 Rs and i have put it on hold for tomorrow.
But i want to set the limit of those 10 stocks to 1100 Rs for sell, after the stock market ends at 3.30pm.
So can i set it with right click and sell under AMO option?. Or will it trigger and set a fresh new Sell of 10 stocks @ 1100 Rs ?
You can place an AMO. If you want to hold it for more than one day, you can also place a GTT order. GTT orders are explained here.
If already set, will GTT trigger in AMO duration? or a dedicated AMO order needs to be placed for after-market timings?
Hi,
If I buy a share in post market sessions at around 3:45
since only delivery orders are placed at the closing price, means I will for sure get the stock on T+2 day
and hence Can I safely sell it on T1 & T2 day(before the actual delivery),
knowing that it will never be short sold as it will only be a delivery order.
Is my understanding correct , or dere is special preferences with few kind of direct members of the exchange or something similar.
This is true. However, if the seller doesn’t deliver the shares for any reason, it could still be short delivered to you.
what will be the scenario when seller will not deliver, since it will not be a short but a delivery sale which is a long position ,
if its not delivered due to NDSL not working or technical error, i don’t think it will go for auction in that case
second scenario can be he sold me on 1 jan and i sold on jan 2 , but jan 3 was holiday and we both might have to settle the sale on same day after holiday on same date., which is the T2 date for me and the person who sold me one day before will be same
but in that also i will get mine from him
and and give that to the person whom i sold it to.
as he sold me first i think first i will get from him and it will be credited
and then mine will be debited
T+2 is always 2 working days from date of sale/purchase. So in your example, first settlement happens on Jan 4 and the second on Jan 5. Also, technical error are something the exchange will not take into account. If you have sold a share you are expected to deliver it.
Hi,
So that means
if I buy a stock between 3:40-4PM
it will be not be a short sale as short selling is not allowed during that period
and since it will not be a short sale, it will be delivered for sure
and since it will be delivered for sure, i can confidently sell that stock on the T1 or t2 day
is my understanding correct ?
If i place a AMO at Market price instead of limit, will it clear as soon as market opens ?
Yes, provided there’s a counterparty available.
thanks Matti for the helpful response. As per the SEBI Document, stock market does not accept Market orders for new ipo releases in premarket sessions. but in one of the tradingqna posts Nitin mentioned that we can place Market orders for this scenario. Is zerodha doing anything special in the matching process?
Hi Matti, Thank you for your response. Can I place multiple market orders in smaller quantities at 9 AM pre-market time with few seconds in between orders?
Yes, you can.
Did not get answer on Zerodha’s tradingqna, nobody is answering phone at 080-49132020. I am new to Trading and Zerodha. I am planning to buy few thousand SBI Card shares as an investment. I am looking to buy at PreOpen price or at the price of first few ticks on Mar-16. I know this is a large quantity, What options(type of order) do I need to choose through kite and When should I put in the order to satisfy my need? Since this is a big order, I dont want it to be rejected or partially filled. Is it safe to place the order through phone? The sales rep told me to place order online ratherthan through phone.
The best bet is to place a market order on Kite at 9 AM on the 16th. If you aren’t sure of being able to place the order at exactly 9, you can place an AMO. However, either way, execution is entirely dependent on the availability of sellers on the market.
Today I have entered After market order for 10500 PUT at price 30. Order placed successfully but when i checked status of it after market open around 9.30 my order got rejected. Due to which i suffered loss of 4500.
Can you please confirm why my order get rejected on opening of market.
Looking at the 10500 PE, I can see that your order was outside or circuit limits and that’s why it was rejected.
Hi Team,
I have placed AMO BUY on Thursday(20/02), but Friday is NSE holiday(21/02). So, do i need to cancel them or they will be approved on the next NSE open day likely on Monday(24/02). Please suggest.
Thanks,
Parveen
If I place an AMO order for an Option to buy at a value of 100 or less. And if in the opening 5 Min, the price is between 80-95, will Option be purchased for my order or not?
Please inform me how to place an AMO order for any value and lesser than that value in case of buying, or any value and higher than that in case of selling.
Hey Virendra,
in the scenario you’ve provided, the order will go through as a market order as the price is higher than the current market price.
You could use Stoploss order to buy higher, learn here how SL orders work.
Hi,
I want to exploit the Gap-up, if it happens, in Commodity futures Pre-open trading, i.e. before 9:00am
I want to purchase the Commodity futures at previous days’ close & sell it later during Market hours.
Is it possible to purchase at previous days’ close ? If yes, how ?
I understand that Market order will be required in such a scenario.
Please inform what would be the best tool for this type of situation – “Regular” order , “Cover order” or “After Market Order” ?
Also, can I use MIS for more Leverage – or I have to do with NRML only ?
i would like to cancel an amo order placed, for which i am getting an error, NEST gateway closed. Y am i getting the error, how to cancel it before the market opens, as tickets raised will be addressed only next day after market is open which is of no use.
Can I place intraday minilots order in after market order ?
Yes, you can.
If stock is available in demat and goes on Upper Circuit then how can i put Stop loss order incase it go lower again
Eg. Stock in demat at: 50
20% UC now at :60 then how to place order at 58?
You can simply place a limit sell order at 58.
Hi,
I have placed a few orders for which money was deducted. But I could not complete the execution. Fund balance still remains the same. If orders were not executed that means buying didn’t complete. then what happened to the money involved?
The margins are blocked for all open orders. If you cancel the order, the margins are released.
Hello everyone,
I want to know what would be the outcome of the following order cases;
Let’s assume RELIANCE closes at 1200 at end of trading day today.
Now in after market session I will place the following order;
BUY ORDER :
LAST DAY CLOSE – 1200
ENTRY – 1202 (above close)
TARGET – 1205
STOP LOSS – 1197
Now I want to know what happens in the following 4 cases on the next day open;
Case 1 – Opens at 1206 (above target)
Case 2 – Opens at 1203 (above entry and below target)
Case 3 – Opens at 1201 (below entry)
Case 4 – Opens at 1197 (below stop loss)
I would like to know this if AMO order is placed before it gets triggered.
I placed AOM order for the selected trade last night. The order got rejected. What is the reason. Do you have any idea how much I have lost because of the cancellation of this order ? ZERODHA is sometimes very very confusing guys. What you explain in your KB and what happens in actual scenario is really very bad. I booked this lot on 4.90 that should get executed on market opening as per you have written in KB but guess what now the stock has touched 17 but by order got cancelled. God knows. Total loss. YOu are answerable
Hi Prasad. Best raise a ticket on our Support Portal for account-specific queries like this.
why my order automatically cancel at 3:22 pm.?
market timing is 9:15-3:50.
Hey Debabrta, we start our auto square-off process around 3.20 PM and all MIS orders are canceled in that time period. The reason being it takes time to cancel orders for all users.
sir,
During normal session 3.15 AM to 3.30 pm
if we have sold off ALL shares of a company at a profit.
Then….by…….3.30 pm the share prices have crashed….
and……
as we feel the share price can still go up next day.
can we buy those shares in the post trading session from 3.40 pm to 4 pm.
will it be considered as a fresh cash buying without affecting our earlier sell off during normal session.
please clarify.
Does Zerodha allow cash buy in post trading session from 3.40 pm to 4 pm ???
thanking you
Tushar Mody
Hi,
Is there a way i can place order with more validity.
Thanks,
Mohan.
Not right now, but we’re working on this.
Sir please add a feature drag drop to modify a order and view of placed order in charts like fyers trading platform.
It is very useful.
Working on this.
The order placed in CNC is not executed till 3.30pm, will it continue tomorrow?
No, you’ll have to place a fresh order for now. We’re working on creating order types that stay valid longer.
Hi,If i placed AMO @ 200 for a stock that has been closed @ 198 during the day and in next day if in the pre market session if it jumps and opened at 210,whether my order @ 200 will get executed or not????
If it’s a limit order, it’ll wait for the stock to reach 200.
I placed Buy order for pre market session as market-regular order… And i did not get any qty.. After 9.08 this order was automatically converted into limit order… Please tell me why my order was converted?
Hey Haresh Jambucha,
This happens at the exchange level. Unmatched orders in the pre-open are carried over to the normal session. Market orders are carried over as limit orders at the opening price. If the opening price is not discovered, market orders will be carried over at the previous close price. Check out this presentation from NSE on Pre-open for more.
Pre openorders are only market orders?
can we place multiple “Limit orders” of small quantities of single or different stocks ?
basically if sgx nifty futures showing lower open, placing a low bid limit orders! (not market orders!)
say my Limit orders placed between 9-9.08am nots get filled -will they be carried forward after 9.30am regular trading? or I have to cancel them to realease margin & place fresh orders ?
Hey Christ,
Please refer to this Support article.
Do we get any ROI too?
Hi.. Suppose I purchased 1 lot of SBIN Future for overnight position. Is there any way I can place my SL order today itself so that I don’t have to login tomorrow at 9:15am to put my SL? I mean is there any possible way to put my SL even in overnight position until my position is open?
For now, you can place an SL AMO after markets close. This is valid for 1 day. Longer lived orders are on our list of things to do and will be available in the near future.
Hi NITIN,Can I place a intraday order in between 9:00 AM TO 9:15AM?
Also can I also place bracket order for the same?
Please reply back its urgent
You can place intraday (MIS) orders, but not BO/CO.
I am providing an example. Suppose I placed an AMO-SL for BANKNIFTY 26500PE @ 110. When market opened, it was 33.7. Can I modify it to 34-35 ?
Yes, you can.
Nithin Sir, Suppose I have placed AMO & not execute as market opens. Can I modify the price ?
If I want to buy/sell equity at pre open market price. How can we buy or sell? ie can we put a buy /sell in between 9.10 AM and 9.14 AM
Can we place pre-market orders (between 9 to 9:08 am) for options in zerodha?
I have seen that in angel broking app, we can place orders for options in pre-market (between 9 to 9:08 am)
F&O trading opens at 9.15 AM only. The pre-market session is conducted only for the Equity segment.
You can place an AMO order till 9.10 AM and the orders will be fired to the exchange when F&O starts trading at 9.15 AM
Hi,
Can a F&O order be modified after market?
If it’s an AMO order, yes, it can.
thankyou Zerodha team, many years wasted my valuable time and money with SK(blood sucker), recently i have adopted your trading system,it is very easy , friendly and economical. It motivate meH and change the openion about the sharemarket.
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I bought 101 Sanguine Media Ltd stocks at rs 1.6 a long time ago. Now the stock price is rs . 25. But now whenever I try to sell that stock it says ‘adapter is down’ all the time. Please solve the problem as soon as possible. My Client Id is SS2076.
I want to place order which is not cancelled till executed or which is valid till ‘x’ days. Is this possible ?
(Basically don’t want to place the order everyday)
Not right now, but we will be offering this order type soon.
i have placed an amo limit order on thursday but canceled when market open,today my fund balance shows 0 ,how
WHAT HAPPENED TODAY??
IS STOCK MARKET CLOSE “20 SEPT 2018”.
READ IT LOUD!!
Today I place amo tata motors at Rs 277 & order executed at 9.05am Rs 276. Is it possible
Is there a premarket for commodity, if so how do it work and what is procedure for it thank you
The request for Good Till Cancelled (GTC) / Valid Till Cancelled (VTC) orders has been sticking out for about 6 years now. Not having this is a big handicap. As much as I like Zerodha for its simple interface and low trading fees (among other things) I am considering moving to other platforms that provide GTC/VTC.
Why doesn’t Zerodha have it yet?
Hi
Example :-
Sell – Bank Nifty – Call (LTP = Rs.85) (Hold For the Day)
Can I Place Stop Loss on Rs.95 in AMO for last day hold position, to avoid any big loss.
Is it will work or not??? or is there any other way for the same.
Regards
A.K. Aggarwal
Hi
Example :-
Sell – Bank Nifty – Call (LTP = Rs.85) (Hold For the Day)
Can I Place Stop Loss on Rs.85 in AMO for last day hold position, to avoid any big loss.
Is it will in any case or not???
Regards
A.K. Aggarwal
Correction
Hi
Example :-
Sell – Bank Nifty – Call (LTP = Rs.85) (Hold For the Day)
Can I Place Stop Loss on Rs.95 in AMO for last day hold position, to avoid any big loss.
Is it will or not??? or is there any other way for the same.
Regards
A.K. Aggarwal
So in this case it would sell when it touches 101.9 correct?
In this case of example, if I select CNC-SL & wish to sell my shares at 102. What should I give in Price? and Trigger?
My understanding is I should give 102 in Price. And 101 in Trigger Price, so that it would sell as soon as it reaches Trigger 101 & I would be gaining 1 rs profit ?
Let me know on this please.
If you want to sell at 102, it’s best to give a trigger of 101.90 and price of 102. So the stock would be sold within this range. If you wish to, you can also specify both trigger and price to be 102.
Hello,
For intraday or AMO, Suppose I have 1 share buyed at 100 Rs & current value of a share is 98.
I’ll select CNC – LMT to Sell & put PRICE as 102. What will happen?
Will it sell for 102 or 98. If it waits till it reaches 102, then it is similar to Trigger price is it?
The limit order will stay in the system until the price reaches 102. Only then will it execute. The difference between Limit and SL orders is that limit orders are meant for ‘best-price’ execution. This means, if you try to sell below market price, the order would execute at the current market price as that would be a better sell price. SL orders are used to place stoplosses, so would only execute if the trigger is hit.
Hi
I am new….can u please help me in understanding in zerodha
Reliance close at 1000 ,open at 1001 and I want to buy it
Trigger 1002,Target 1010, Stoploss 999
How can i set Trigger,Target and stoploss in AMO order.
Thanks
Amit Gupta
Hi Team,
I have question on CNC. Lets suppose reliance closed price is 800 at 3.30pm. I want to place order at 800 only to buy this share. How can i place it this order which time Morning or evening, what is the best time for this.
Pl suggest
Thanks
Shubham
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Hi,
How does stop loss amo orders work? Will it get placed in the pre market session as limit orders or will it be carried over to normal trading hours? Since prices don’t fluctuate in pre market session how does stop loss amo sell order work or get placed?
Please help me understand this in both the cases given below
A) when stop loss amo trigger price is below pre market equilibrium price.
B) when stop loss amo trigger price is above pre market equilibrium price.
Thank you.
Orders for equity are placed in the pre-market session while those for F&O are placed at 9.15. The orders are just entered on the exchange orderbook and they wait to be triggered.
ARE AMO ORDERS BE TAKEN EVEN ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ????
Hey Vinod. Yes, they are accepted on weekends.
I am a novice and I tried intraday order by buying and selling just one stock of around 300-400 rupees within 5 minutes. I probably got less than 1 rupee profit. and then again I bought the same stock (quantity 2). I know it sounds risky and stupid perhaps. But how does this affect over all?
Hey Sowmya, you end up paying more in charges. The right thing for you to do is to learn more about the markets before you start trading. You can start investing in mutual funds in the meanwhile on Coin. We run a couple of popular educational initiatives, you can check them out here.
Hello Nithin Kamath
1. I would like know to if I can place buy orders at Rs 10, Rs 8 and Rs 6 assuming that previous day’s close price is Rs 12 and also I would like to place a stop loss order at Rs 4. I would like to know if this is possible using AMO orders. Similarly can I place AMO sell orders at different price levels and place a AMO stop loss order.
2. Assuming that previous day’s close price is Rs 12, I would like to place two separate orders, one is CNC limit buy order at Rs 6 and another is MIS limit sell order at Rs 14 and a MIS stop loss order at Rs 16. I would like to know if this is possible.
3. What happens if the opening price is less than AMO buy order or if opening price is greater than AMO sell order.
4. Is it possible to know or calculate lower circuit or upper circuit and what happens if AMO order placed happens to be below the lower circuit or above the upper circuit.
Thank you.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. If limit, the order will execute immediately
4. Orders will be rejected if they are outside the circuit limits.
There is no VTC(Valid Till Cancel) like thing in kite. An investor who wants to buy on dips a particular scrip. cann’t place such order. Please introduce it on ZERODHA platform
Sir I wanted to know can I place bracket in premarket session i.e between 9:00 to 9:08
* bracket order
I wanted to trade with aayush on 5/6/18(Today). But it was not opened till 10.25 pm. The same case with water bae also. Why? Do all the companies will not start trade at the same time
I tried to place AMO for Bajaj Finance today. But order is rejected and reason state is ” admin stopped AMO”. Why…?
AMOs can only be placed between 4PM and 9AM, Manu.
I have not seen the feature of converting mis orders to CNC
Kindly embed this feature as we are not able to convert MIS to CNC even if we have surplus funds. This is the biggest Glitch that I have encountered while trading on your mobile application for Android
Just click on the position and select convert. The option has always been available. Check this: https://kite.trade/docs/kite/kite-mobile/#convert-positions
AMO order can be placed in bracket order or not
Hello,
I had placed two AMO orders (BUY TCS @ 3510 & SELL TCS @ 3471.5) for 13 quantities. But when market opens next day both orders have been executed @ 3509.8. I am not able to understand, why my quoted price have not been executed.
hi, i want to trade or take long positions in options. however i work in a factory thus cant carry person computer along during market hours. we do not have access to pi on company laptop.
Additionally, as i observed, not all options/ strikes of a stock are seen in kite. can u pls help me understand how i can trade in options by using kite alone. (note = i couldnt see all option strikes shown for a stock in market watch).
shall appreciate your response by tomorrow
i have placed the order in pre-market session @ 09.01 AM, however it dint get executed and waited for all day, By EOD was cancel, how can i sell i am stuck in Vakarangee,
Please help.
R/Yogender
With stocks like this hitting circuits, you can just place orders and wait.
Hi
Is there any option like good for 30 days or 60 days to buy or sell with a target price?
SIr, if I placed a one order on pre market session what price the order will placed?… For example If reliance closed on 800rs on 26/04/2018 , can i get my order for the same price on 27/04/2018 in pre-market session?…If not what is the possible way to do ???
The pre-market session is where a price is discovered. You can place an order at any price and if there’s a counter order for the same price and quantity, it’ll be filled. Read more here.
Can i place a market order (day validity) after pre-open market closes and before normal market opens (between 9:08AM and 9:15AM)
No, you will have to wait for the markets to open.
Hi How to buy and hold stock in zerodha for long term.I am not big fan of Intraday trading & hence i want to buy and hold for long term and sell as per my convenience.
Hello,
In the case i place an buy AMO (after market order) at the price of Rs 345 the
previous evening and there is a gap up opening from Rs 280 to Rs 370.
Is there a chance of my order being executed.
Kindly clarify and thank you for the same.
Can I place stoploss market order with OCO in pre-market session? Say closing price of SBI is 287. I want to buy it at market price only if it reaches 288, with target points of 2 Rs. and stoploss point of 1 rupee. Is this possible in premarket session? (9.00 to 9.08 a.m. I suppose)
Only market and limit orders are allowed in the pre-market session, Umesh.
What are the extra charges associated with pre, post and after market orders?
No extra charges. 🙂
I want to exit from a script as soon as possible.The last few days it is in lower circuit.
Which one is the best option to execute on zerodha : AMO, Pre-Market Order or Regular-Market order?
Please guide
You can place an AMO, but in such cases, there is no guarantee of getting a fill.
Can we place a BO or a limit order order once pre-open market is closed but before 9:15?
No, you can’t place orders at this time.
Sir Good Morning. How to exit(sell) a stock which is continuously locked lower circuit level ?
Do you have Good till cancelled or Valid till cancelled type orders for investors?
Its really a very good feature other brokerage houses such as ICICI Direct has.
Its mainly useful for implementing auto profit booking for investors,
once you do that, I’ll ask for stop loss orders for Investors 🙂
Can you please consider this?
Yes, these long-standing order types are on our list of things to do Kiran.
please provide notification tone in mobile for kite apps if order executed.
This is on our list of things to do Abhishek.
I purchased a share today. How do I place a permanent stop loss and target order?
Hey Ritesh. The exchange flushes all pending orders at the end of the day. You’ll have to place these orders each day for now. We’re working on building long-standing orders that will be valid for a longer period.
if I place an order during pre-market order or buy as soon as the market opens. which will be faster?
Can we convert MIS to CNC and CNC to MIS orders?
Why there is no option to place future orders on equity? We have to place limit orders on daily basis and if the limit is not reached it cancels at the end of day. I want to place future order so that whenever it reaches that price it should automatically execute the order.
Sir , I have following questions…
1. Can I place MIS-CO-Market order in pre market session?
2. Can I place MIS-AMO-SLM order in AMO market session?
Hey Yuvraj.
1. CO orders aren’t allowed in the pre-market session. Only limit and market orders are allowed.
2. Yes, you can place MIS SLM AMO orders in off-market hours.
thank you for your guidance.
Thanks Mr Matti for yur prompt reply.
Your Q&A terminals are very impressive & quite exhaustive and many thanks for your patience in giving awesome answers to n number of customers.However I also need a small valuable advice on these AMO’s and Pre-market orders session.
AA)Yesterday(09/02/2018) I have shorted one futures stock on NRML basis and end up with a small loss as per the closing price shown at the end of the day but did not square off.But expecting a huge break-up of the price on this stock on the next trading day and to avoid this huge loss ,can I place SL-M buy order(AMO)or Pre-market order? Or any other better suggestion to prevent this huge loss followed by the expected break-up of price?
BB)On the other way ,If such a huge break-down of the price occurs on this particular stock on the next trading day contrary to my expectation,ofcourse I will be benefitted with the presesent situation.But by placing the above mentioned SL-M buy order,will it by any chance triggers even in the case of break down also?
Need your valuable advice at the earliest possible please
Hey Narasimhan,
A. You can only place and AMO order in this case as derivatives don’t trade pre-market. This SLM AMO order will act as a stoploss that would square off your position if there’s a move adverse to your view of the market.
B. No, in such case, the order remains open and will wait for the price to rice to the trigger level to be executed.
Hey,
I placed 3 AMO sell orders (of stocks I already own) today morning around 8.30. Status was “AMO REQ RECEIVED”. Then at 9:00 am following message appears “Due to technical reasons your aftermarket orders (AMO) won’t be placed today. Please place your order once again after markets open.” Now after so many hours the order book still shows status “AMO REQ RECEIVED”. I cannot modify or cancel, nor are they auto cancelled. Also, it shows zero in my holdings, so I cannot even trade for those stocks, what to do now ?? How would they be cancelled? Also, the limit has exceeded for them now so I don’t want to sell for low prices.
Pl. enable basket orders option at single click in Kite Platform also as available in NEST. Thanks.
This is on our list of things to do.
I will get out of Zerodha….
Sir I am selling my shares in AMO in market order….
It is automatically converted into Limit Order….
Please help me to solve this problem…
Hello Nitin Sir…..
I have to sell my shares…..
I have applied in AMO but my shares are not sold on next morning….
I am in urgent requirement in selling shares because it is continuously hotting lower circuit….
Please help me to sell my shares….
Its Urgent… Nitin Sir..
If there are buyers available, your order would go through. I’m afraid you’ll have to wait for a buyer. If the stock is hitting lower circuits, this means that the liquidity is quite low and so execution is not guaranteed.
Sir It is Urgent I want to sell my shares any how…..
Suppose I cancel my AMO order immediately on friday night, when will I get my money back ?
After the market open on Monday ?
Is there an option to place orders and the order validity is till the user cancels it or executes itself after fulfilling.
For example: I want to sell the share ABC when it reaches Rs100 currently its Rs45, to reach Rs100 it might take several months so I can place the order open now, executes itself at Rs100 after several months?
Not as of now Giri, but we are working on this.
I think that’s going to be a great feature if you ask me, which can hold good for buying and selling both.. And obviously I believe you let it know everybody when you have this feature/option 😉 ..
Good Luck !!
Dear Team,
is it possible to place After Market Order in MIS with SL or SL-M using Zerodha Kite APP?
Yes, you can.
I am not able to place AMO. The error “the request not registered” appears. please advice
regds
I too get this error sometimes, especially in the nights after 12. You will also notice that you cannot login into Pi with a “no response from server” error. Try after some time…
We run a daily maintenance process on our servers post-midnight, at which time the platforms are inaccessible.
Hi,
Can I place AMO order for SME shares? There is no concept of Pre-market session for SME shares and market opens at 9:15am.
If yes, how much time it will take actually to send order to Exchange; less than 30 seconds or more than 30 seconds?
Regards
Hello,
I am a beginner in the field of stock market, I have been through Zerodha varsity, but still there is a doubt, suppose a hypothetical situation where Nifty 50 Jan fut is closed today at 10641 and tomorrow it opens directly at 10700 so there is a difference of 59 points ( max profit 59*75 =4425) and I want to trade tomorrow with intraday approach . My question is ,if it is really possible to get this profit in a day then what type of order should I place and at what time? Thank you. Zerodha Rocks.
i can’t get one thing when stock price is suddenly gets fall down ( i.e it comes 500–>490–>480–>450) At this time every body it trying to shell their shock then who are the buyer at this moment.
same Reversly
it stock price is suddnly getting up (i.e 450–>480–>500). When every body want to buy and a person who has already buyed they keep holding. so who are the seller at this time..
Can you plz guide me…Since 6-8 month i have started with zerodha…if i place any order in amo…I’m not getting Exchange Order ID & time exactly at 9.00.00am. It take delivery on 9.00.32 or 9.00.48 seconds….Any i had never seen my number come first in buy or selling….of any of script…What to do…How will i get exchange order id & time exactly on pre-market timing 9.00.00am..
Awaiting for your revert..
Hi
I purchased 30 quantities of idea at 105.05 on Thursday and sold them at 117.15 on Friday to book the profit. I repurchased the 50 quantity at a price of 115.20 on Friday. In my P&L section its showing a profit of only Rs.30 , profit on the 50 quantity . When the profit on the 30 quantity which i bought on Thursday will be reflected?
Thanks
Aadhar
What happen if I can’t squre off my future position on exipirty date ???
As we trade on cnx nify futures of any particular month, can we trade on normal nifty 50 index
Jay Bharat
I have trading account in zerodha
Sir,
My question related to Pre Opening of market is
1) Can we place post closing order between 3:40 to 4:00 pm in ZERODHA
2) If I place AMO order at 8:00 pm.(For Example TATA Steel) I put After market order of CNC to buy at Price of Rs 835. Now Previous close price is 830 and next day at 9:15 am Opening price is Rs 840. So at opening of market will my order will execute ??
3) Will it execute before 9:15 ??
4) Is our After market order is automatically converted in to Pre open order at 9:00 am ?
5) Or we have to put Pre open order only between 9:00 to 9:07 am ?
6) Can i see my pre market executed order in my order book before 9:15 am ?
7) All above case are for both CNC and MIS
Hi,
Have been trying from past few days to place an order in pre opening session but the order is not getting executed. Please guide as to how to place an order in pre opening session. Thanks in advance.
In the pre-open session, there is no way to guarantee execution, you can only place a market or limit order and wait to see if it goes through.
1. What is SEBI listing obligations & disclosure requirements….Means…????
2. When a company get delisted from stock exchange…After Meeting of board of director done.
3. How to prepare ourself by lossing our money from stock market…..Before delisting of any company.
Dear Sir ,
Kindly clarify whether I can place disclosed quantity in after market orders.
No, disclosed quantity cannot be used for AMOs.
i want to hold stocks for 1 or 2 years so how would i do purchase stocks..???
Just place a CNC buy order.
dear sir,
my question is can we take leverage and trade in pre market and sell in post market.
I’m afraid not.
Hello Team,
I wish to migrate to Zerodha from another DP.
How can I do that. Is there a smooth way to that.
Regards,
Shashank Aggarwal
Yes, you can. Check out this post.
Hello sir,
I am sjvenkatesan i need more than 5 page in market watch list kite.. its is possible .? Compare to other trading platform zerodha have limited market watch list page upto 5 , at the same time we can’t add market watch title on your given 1 to 5 pages. Kindly please add multiple page options. Its really very useful.
Thanks,
SJ Venkatesan
When will you guys enable After Market Stoploss order, now AMO can only be placed as a limit order, I am asking this for a very very long time
Hi Nithin,
I had a query related to the Futures & Options segment. If I have an open position in commodity futures, I know I can place a SL order for the same but I want to know whether I can place a limit order as a target for the same open position? I am holding the position overnight. Probably for a few days even. Will the limit order be executed as a target order for the open position I have or will it open a fresh position?
Would appreciate your help. Thanks.
~Abudhar al Hassan.
You can place a Limit order. But if the target executes, make sure you cancel the stoploss order to prevent opening another position.
why don’t show the total cost of order in your equity order box? If I type the quantity, you do show “Stock price” x “quantity” in the blue header. But there is no value for that multiplication.
We’ve tried to keep the platform as lean as possible. This is something that is quite a straight-forward calculation and was left out in the interest of speed. Will talk to the team and see if it’s possible to display.
i am new in trading, please suggest if i buy or sell one stock around 20 times in same day, then brokerage charge for total value of one share or charge one by one buy and sale value
Rakesh, the brokerage is charged per order. So if you execute 5 buy orders and 5 sell orders, you’ll be charged for the ten orders, irrespective of whether this was for the same stock or different stocks.
How can my order can be first order in the market?..This I am asking ’cause few shares with very low volume & very high demand do executed on daily basis. However, though I am placing AMO order, It’s not get executed since I am not the first one to place an order. Is there any method in kite so that probability of my order to be first in the market increases.
No way to guarantee that, I’m afraid.
Sir,
I have query regarding pre-open market trading.
At which price, I could place an order?
If I place order during pre-open session, can I sell on same day(Intra-Day)?
Regards,
M.Maheshwari.
At what price you place an order in the pre-market session is your choice, really. You can only place Market or Limit orders though. Yes, you can place intraday exit orders for these positions.
At what price AMO sell order is processed.
If you’ve placed a market order, it is executed at the best available price one the markets open. This need not be the open price you see on the market depth as there are a lot of orders that hit the exchange as soon as markets open. Whenever your order is queued in, it’ll execute at the price available then. For limit and SL orders, you define the price. If you’ve defined limit price below whatever the market opens at, it’ll execute at the market price.
sir
I want to know if i placed order in equity during PMO , order will be placed on that day limit or can i put a limit of buying and selling then place it
Hey Dilip, you can place a limit order in the pre-market session. If your order is not filled in this session, it is automatically carried forward to the normal trading session.
(i)What’s the DP charge showing
in ledger?
(ii)How DP charges calculated ?
Akhil, check this post out.
Target: To get a buy into the pre-opening market at market price for a particular derivative
Question: Which one is better? AMO placed at 1615 hrs. OR Placing the same order at 09:01 am?
Kindly clarify..
Derivatives aren’t traded in the pre-open session. An AMO placed after market would execute at 9:15. You’d have better chances with placing a market order at 9:15 though.
can i place mis order in pre open market order?
Yes, you can.
how to pre-trace any company equity share are going to be suspended by sebi in bse or nse…
There is no way to know in advance. You can keep track of the announcements on BSE and NSE circulars page.
what does quarterly board of meeting means….is related with BSE or NSE to stop the trading in stock exchange or any other idea….
Is leverage provided on AMO orders as well. Kindly guide.
Vatandeep, leverage is provided only for intraday, so no.
how can i buy using kite in pre market trade.
which one is better AMO or pre market orders.
Are there any options like GTD in sharekhan.( ie. can we place an order which is valid till a particular date?)
Can AMO order be cancelled during market hour.
If you have placed an AMO for the next day today then you can.
Can we a buy a stock of type regular after market hours without using AMO in kite?
Dinesh, the post-market session or closing session is open from 3:40 PM to 4:00 PM. During this session, you can place buy/sell orders in equity delivery segment using the CNC orders.
RESPECTED NITHIN KAMATHJI, I SHALL BE HIGHLY THANKFUL AND WILL BE IN THE INTEREST OF INVESTORS IF YOU KINDLY START THE MARKET TIPS FOR EQUITY MARKET AS I AM ALWAYS OBSERVING YOUR FRIENDLY AND PROPER GUIDANCE TO THE INVESTORS LIKE US.
Ravikant, at Zerodha we’ve always believed in educating traders and investors. You can check out our educational initiatives here.
what does the message adapter is down mean ?
How can I place pre-market order through Zerodha ?
Debjyoti, the pre-market session is open between 9:00 AM and 9:08 AM, you can place orders during that period.
I tried to place a AMO stoploss order, but it got rejected and I got a message “cannot store amo orders.order type cannot be sl or sl-m”, last month you guys told that you are activating the amo sl or sl-m order but till now it is not available. Please activate it .
Debkrishna, we are working on it and you should be able to place SL/SL-M AMOs soon.
Can I place buy/sell order for OPTIONS between 9 am and 9.05 am ? and can I modify/cancel the order before 9.08 am? when and how will I know wheather the order has got executed or not ?
thanks
Yes, you can place AMO orders. You can place, modify and cancel orders for F&O till 9.10 AM. All AMO orders will be sent to the exchange at 9.15 since there is no pre-market for F&O. You can keep track of your orders from your orderbook.
can we place AMO for currency futures
Yea.
Sir,If i placed buy order xyz share with order type CNC in AMO and suppose it gets executed at 9:16 can i take delivary of that stock ?or do i need to square off before 3:20?
You can either sell it intraday or take delivery.
I opened only trading ac. Can I see the nifty index open.high.loww.inthe MarketWatch
Which indicator is best in renko chart and box size.
Thanks
Valliappan
With only trading, you can’t see index. You will be able to see F&O contracts only. If you have any other demat account, email that to us. Our team will have that mapped.
Nithin,
When Gtc: Good till cancel order will be available.
Savita, on our list of things to do but will take time.
How to calculate margin for AMO ?
Not for futures.
I want to buy suppose IDEA stock at 79 today after 4 PM, let say 1000 stock.
Will my order get executed on 9:15 AM next day as i don’t have 79000 Funds in my account. Assume market opens next day at 79.
I know if it opens at 80, my order will be in pending mode.
Just a confusion about AMO margin.
Margin for AMO and normal market are the same. You can use this calculator: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Equity/
If i order to buy NBCC share at 9:01.at that time its price is 210.30 so when the order will executed? And which price?
all orders are collected and matched at 9.07 am in premarket. If your limit price there is an offer it gets at that price, otherwise the order will continue to be open when the normal market opens.
Sir.. That means if i place market price order.So that order will executed that price which will shown at 9:07 am.Is it true sir?
Pls tell me..
Yes. But this is only if equilibrium price is found during premarket by the exchange. Otherwise, the order will continue to normal market.
Sir…I wont to open my demat account in ZERODHA.but i am 17 year old. I have my PAN CARD.but in pan card it show that i am minor.. Will i open demat account in zerodha? If not let me suggest when i will abale to open my account?
Ah no Nirmal, you have to be 18 first.
Sir.. In pre market which order that i will place? AMO or REGULAR
Regular
Hi Nithin,
I want to know that, if i search any share in kite. Two option displayed, for example i search for reliance, it will show Reliance-Be and Reliance-Bl what is that??
Check this answer.
Sir.. Can i buy equity share in pre open market session?
Yeah
Is it use for intraday trading?
Yeah, once something is bought in premarket it can be sold once normal market opens. But within premarket, u can’t buy and sell.
How i placed pre-market order for equity?
Place an order as AMO or between 9 am to 9.07 am, it automatically is placed in premarket.
Sir,
i want to put a buy order at 9 am for a particular stock. at that time can i know at what price it will open.
Opening price will get determined when market starts at 9.15 am.
I have tried to sell the stock at limit price of triveni engg at 88 rs in amo. The previous day closing price of triveni engg was 90 rs. So next day triveni engg opened with gap up opening around 93rs and still my order get executed even though I place sell limit order 88 rs. Kindly explain
If you place a normal sell order with price lesser than market price, it will get executed at market when it opens. To place Stoploss orders, check this video.
Sir, I would like to know more about CNC trading 1. Is it possible to sell the stock on T+1 and after some time the stock price goes down so again purchase the same stock and same quantity to keep in the holding. is it possible to do the same thing for the stock which are in demat account that means after T+2. From where i will get more knowledge about this/ please guide me.
Yes, possible to do both without affecting your holding.
Those pre market details are available in NSE india website. If the pre market data is bullish, does that mean the market will also be bullish?
Thank you
That’s a question we’ll refrain from answering, on purpose 🙂
Today the pre-market seems bullish. Market opened gap up but it went down steadily.
Confused in AMO
SBIN Currently at 279 in Kite left side market watch (Actually at 278.70 by NSE), 278.94 in Chart and many different reading in chart by different time frame.. Now i want to place AMO for buy as well as sell. Three different values
Buy : 279.70
SLM : 277.25
Buy Exit at 280.70
Sell : 277.20
SLM: 279.80
Sell Exit : 276.20
Query
How many orders will be executed(expect opening price will be between 278-279)
1. If market goes to 281 uptrend, it will reach 277.70(Buy) then it will reach 277.80(SL for sell)…this means i gain 10 paise profit ?
after market reverse
2. What if market goes down and hit SL for buy which is at 277.25 or it will execute my sell order which is at 277.20
I just want to book trade of previous day(OHLC) calculation on AMO. With stop loss of both the way, either uptrend or downtrend.
How many AMO order i have to place ?
Which order is priority AMO or Pre Market which will get executed first? Is it like AMO will be executed only @9:15 or after as compared to Pre Market which gets executed @ 9:00 to 9:08 AM.
All AMO’s are placed at 9 am itself in the premarket. So when market opens, they have the highest priority. If you place a market order at open, it will have lower priority.
Can AMO orders be cancelled?
Yes they can.
sir, please provide guidance regarding hoe to place short sell order.
Your regards.
thanks,
You just have to chose MIS and sell. Why don’t you go through the video playlist here.
Is AMO applicable to limit losses on outstanding FnO positions.
If yes, what will be validity of such SL trigger order?
Thanks!
You can’t place SL AMO orders.
Dear Nitin,
Many other online trading platforms offer a concept of “Good till Cancel” order. In this case the order stays valid till the date mentioned by the investor. The date can be 365 days from today’s date and works for both buy & sell orders. The order is executed as soon as the price is hit.
Is there any particular reason this is not present in Zerodha platform? Please include it, this is very useful for long term investors.
Currently the Equity Exchanges don’t support GTC orders, brokers who are providing you this facility are using a very hacky way, something we aren’t comfortable doing. We’ll let you know once this facility is out.
When you guys are enabling AMO SL order which is very useful, currently only AMO limit order can be placed . Can you give us any timeframe within which you are enabling this feature.
Hopefully in the next 3 to 4 weeks.
Is there any premarket or post market sessions for Nifty options? or for that matter any derivative instruments?
No pre/post for derivatives.
Hi,
Can I get scrip-wise, date wise details of all my trade in excel which shows details of brokerage, STT, GST, Turnover tax etc. (scrip-wise, date-wise) for a particular period as I get from another brokers.
Thanks and Regards
Ravi Kumar Chona
Login to q.zerodha.com and click on tax P&L under reports.
Respected Sir,
In Zerodha there is no Graph chart for 5hr duration …
after 1hr it shows directly for 1day …??
Sir,
5hr graph is very vital … Please Provide the same at the earliest…
Thank You
Arvind
I buy 3500 share of dwekar ind but now i can’t sell it my order is always pending there is only sell in this stock wt can i do no.call trade phone no i want.
Ravi, the stock is hitting circuit down then. There is no way to sell such a stock if there are no buyers.
What is soluti for this stock now what can i do any futures for this stock
These kinds of stocks are not allowed trading on futures an options. Nothing much you can do.
My money gone for this stock i thing
Hello Sir,
You have provided almost all types Orders, But the GTC Type Order whose validity will be till the expiry date, is not available with you, for the investor type, positional trader, this is a very convenient and helpful Order type, i have found this with every other broker i have experienced … Please consider this and please provide this at the
earliest ..
For positional traders GTC Stop Loss Orders is very vital, to protect your clients during Gap Up and Gap down Openings
Sir On Realizing its importance , Zerodha does not look complete without it …
Sir,
Awaiting your positive Response
Thank You for Your Support and Cooperation …
Yours
Arvind
Yes Arvind, we are trying to get this enabled.
Thank You Very Much Sir,
Your’s will be the BEST Platform Around …..
All the Best …
Thank’s Once Again …
That was exactly what i was searcing for also..
would be great if zerodha added that feature also
Hi,
I have a query on the way orders are squared off in MIS.
In case the square-off order is not executed at the end of the trading session, how is it handled?
For example, if a BUY MIS order was executed during the trading session, but the SELL order did not get executed at the end of the day, how are these shares handled?
Does the user have to bear any additional charges?
Thanks
The onus of squaring off position vests entirely on you, as a broker we’re only facilitating squaring off of MIS orders. In the eventuality, the position could not be squared off for whatsoever reason, you’ll have to bear the costs that come along with it.
Hello sir,
I have few doubts:
1) What is the purpose of “disclosed quantity” option in buy/sell window??
2) At what time the AMO are sent to market at 0900 or after 0915??
3) Could you please elaborate actually what is cooked up between 0900 and 0915??
4) What I understood is we can not place BO &CO premarket session, only place simple limit order will I get leverage for the same or not??
From your point of view How can we make best use of pre-market session??
SUGGESTION:-In kite it will be useful, if you provide an option to name the market watch instead of numbering them 1,2,3….etc
Regards
1. Check this.
2. Equity orders at 9am and F&O at 9.15
3. Explained in the post above.
4. Yes. Pre-market isnt’ really meant for trading, it essentially put to reduce the volatility at the market open.
Want to know about Validity in Order placement. Can we use VDT option while trading in Cash??
Not currently.
Please tell me, can I used AMO order to put stoploss in equity after 4 pm to 8.59 am.
Does NSE have the historical data of Pre-open market sessions ?
No
Hello Nithin Sir, I was wondering why a concept of short selling in cash segment more than intraday is totally lacking in India..
In USA, traders can short stock in cash segment by holding the short position for more than one day by borrowing equity shares from their brokers at some interest charges. Some US brokers who provide this are THINKORSWIM , ETRADE , INTERACTIVE BROKERS etc.
Is it possible to bring this concept in India?
That would be awesome if that can happen..
please reply…
Rajat, for this concept to come through, we need to have a vibrant Stock lending and borrowing mechanism. This is not popular in India currently, but SEBI is trying. Check this.
Thanx for your quick response, sir.
I checked the link It says that only those stocks can be borrowed and lent which have futures and options. does it mean others stock can not be borrowed and lent?
I have demat acc with Zerodha. How can I apply for SLB through zerodha?
Yeah, currently SLB is available only for F&O stocks. There is no liquidity in the SLB market, so no activity as such currently. Check this.
When suppose to expect the rupees refund process from exchange if any company stock has been suspended…
hmm..there is no concept of refund if a stock is suspended.
If I may! Can you explain me about pre market order? Like if I buy a share b/w 9:00 to 9:08 and it was previously closed at for eg. 800 and opening price starts at 820 so will I book that profit? Or it will start at opening price and can I trade it in MIS or it will be traded in CNC
It is explained in detail on the post above. Check the video on AMO here. B/w 9 to 9.07, you can just place orders, no trades will happen. Order matching happens after that.
Sir as Harsh Sharma asked earlier my question is same ; that if I place bracket order in the pre market session with a limit price of 801 when a stock previously closed at 800 then if market opens at 820 then can I book that profit or not? if not then what will happen to my buy order. will it be cancelled or not?
and also if I place a selling Bracket order at 780 during pre market session and market opens at 790 then what what will happen ? will my order be executed at the lower price of 780and I have to take loss of 10 rupees or if when price will reach to 780 then my order is executed? Please explain ..
In premarket brackets are not allowed. It will get rejected.
but if only limit order is allowed then can I place both stoploss limit order and buy or sell limit order simultaneously in pre market session? if yes then on the above situation i’e” if I place limit order in the pre market session with a limit price of 801 when a stock previously closed at 800 then if market opens at 820 then can I book that profit or not? if not then what will happen to my buy order. will it be cancelled or not?
and also if I place a selling limit order at 780 during pre market session and market opens at 790 then what what will happen ? will my order be executed at the lower price of 780and I have to take loss of 10 rupees or if when price will reach to 780 then my order is executed? Please explain ..
Vikas, SL orders are not possible in premarket. Since exchanges don’t allow setting of triggers in premarket session.
If you place a limit to sell at 780, the order gets collected and matching can happen at 780 itsef and execute after 9.07am. It won’t wait till 9.15 am for market to open for trade to be executed.
Sir one last question.. 🙁
is margin order is allowed in pre-market session or not? and if place a limit buy order at 20 and market opens at 25 then what will happen to my order, will my order be cancelled ?
and also “Thank you Sooo much ” for very quick response and clearing my doubts… which were stopping me to trade… Thank you again.. 🙂
Yes margin orders allowed. If market opens at 25, your limit buy at 20 becomes pending. 🙂
when can i expect the gtc order to be available.
That will be really helpful.
Will take more time.
How do I placed “stop market order” or “stop limit order ” for entry in KITE. e.g. if price is at 100 and i want my buy order to be executed as soon as any trade occurs at 101 not before that.
Check the video on stoploss here.
Can AMO orders placed in Basket ??
No
After placing order in AMO will it be available for preopning session.
I want to place order exactly at 9:00 AM.
You can manually place it at 9.00 am.
Check this answer Preet. Bonus shares can take upto 2 weeks to be credited. Until the new stocks get credited, the P&L wont’ show right.
Hi, if i buy a stock in F&O Normal Mode between 3:25 To 3:30 PM.. how can sell that on next day at open price . can i place AMO sell Market order, is it execute at open price once market opens.
kindle advice
Yes you can place AMO. But AMO is like a market order placed when market opens. So no guarantee that you will get the bestopening price.
I am new to trading and have recently open account in Zerodha. I have downloaded kite on mobile and also using kite web but i dont get any link for downloading Pi desktop version. Please help. My ID is ZI9562.
Also please advise, in case of any problem in ordering to whom should i contact for quick resolution during market hours?
Check this link: https://zerodha.com/z-connect/category/tradezerodha/pi-tradezerodha, explains all about Pi. You can call 080-40402020 for this.
Today morning, I gave limit order to buy federal bank call option. Even though limit price was reached trade didn’t get executed. And after some time, call option price went up before my eyes. I was disappointed. Is it that AMO orders are first executed? Please let me know so that I can trade effectively.
Today morning, I gave limit order to buy federal bank call option. Even though limit price was reached trade didn’t get executed. And after some time, call option price went up before my eyes. I was disappointed. Is it that AMO orders are first executed? Please let me know so that I can trade effectively.
Hello Nithin Kamath
What happens if AMO limit order (buy order) price is greater than opening market price? For example AMO limit order price is Rs 10 but as soon as the market opens the price is Rs 9 and in this case at what price the order will be valid.
Thank you.
It will become like a market order.
I think it will become Limit order, not market market order. Otherwise what is the use of giving option to select Market or Limit order to trader?
Limit order is when you want to buy lower than market rate or sell higher than market rate.
If you place a buy limit order at a price higher than market price, it’s as good as placing a market order. The trade will get executed immediately.
Any plan for supporting the placement of AMO orders in Kite Connect API ?
Yes, but will take time.
Sir i have added 1000 to my zerodha account and bought Idea shares as CNC AMO yesterday but today it is showing rejected with error “RMS:Margin Exceeds,Required:930.00, Available:0.00 for entity account-ZP7827 across exchange across segment across product” also showing 0 balance in kite and 989 balance in q.zerodha.com. Why 11 rps got deducted and what did just happened?
Ankit, if you use the payment gateway to add funds there is Rs9 +ST for PG. you can transfer using IMPS to avoid this. Check this: https://zerodha.com/fund-transfer
AMO before 9:00 am . SL-M order possible or not for buying as you have clearly mentioned above it is possible.
“Instead of keeping a limit buy at 7670, you can place a SL-m buying order with trigger at 7670. So unless market opens above 7670, it won’t be bought.”
ok , I got it , it is for nifty futures. In futures you have mentioned.
( In Equity Segment) . If I have strong feeling If the Stock Hind Petro touches 521 it will go higher . So If I wait for opening I cannot get execution . If I want to buy the stock in pre market at 521 at 9:00 am , I can use Normal- MIS – SLM- TRIGGER- 521. If price come to 521 It will be executed at 521 or higher .
1. If it get executed it will be shown in executed orders or not ? If it is not executed it will remain in system we can cancel or modify only after market opening. Since no modification allowed after 9:07.
2. Can we place SL-M for this order , and Can it will get executed in premarket , if there is too much volatility.
3. If we can place SL-M for this order , it will be remain in system till it executed at market opening or I cancel it after market opening.
4. We can place – LIMIT , MARKET , SL-M ORDERS ONLY WE CANNOT PLACE SL ORDERS IN PREMARKET.
In pre-market SL orders are not allowed. Only limit/market.
yesterday i placed an after market buy order of abnuvo at 1645,now even though it opened at 1644.70 today, my order didn’t get executed. why?
clarify
AMO orders are fired at market open to exchange. If that open price happened before your order hit the exchange, it will not get executed. Almost impossible to get the opening ticks of a stock.
so what one should do , so that the probability of orders getting executed is high.
pls suggest
Hmm.. the first few ticks in the morning, there is nothing much you can do, after market buy order is the best bet.
hi, there i have a query , that’s can in after market order can it be place in bracket order way and use leverage if its a stock mentioned in scrip for margin; also can we delete this order after the mkt open and share to be bought is seemingly at higher price wherein stock going down
No AMO can’t be used with BO.
IF I Could not place order for BTST at market closing time. can i place this same order in AMO to get same closing price of share for BTST. ?
what is last trading time to receive order in CNC for BTST… 3.19 pm or 3.29 pm? and morning selling time?
Please reply soon.
You can sell until 3.29:59. Yes you can place the same order as AMO, but the price next day will be different.
Is this Possible?
1.If I want to buy Just Dial at 453 at market opening . In equity before 9 am & In Futures before 9:10 . Can I place AMO-MIS-SL , TRIGGER PRICE 453 , PRICE 454.
2.Is this Correct . We can modify orders before 9:00 am and after 9:15 am ( When the market opens) but not in between once the order is placed.
1. You can in F&O, equity you can’t place SL orders as AMO.
2. You can modify until 9.07 am in equity (premarket) adn 9.10am in F&O.
1. If I want to place limit order between 9:10 – 9:14 to get exact price . So it get executed at 9:15 , What order type I should use AMO or Normal Order with MIS product.
2. If I want to place Stoploss for this order between 9:10-9:14 . What order type I should use AMO or Normal Order.
In Equity as well as Futures
1. AMO orders can be placed only till 9 am for equity. F&O AMO also can be placed only till 9.10. Doesn’t matter NRML or MIS.
2. Between 9.10 to 9.14 not possible to place any order.
Do I need to cancel any open CNC order at the end of day or it will get cancelled automatically(if yes, is there any charge included ?)
Gets cancelled automatically.
Hi
I have a question about AMO.
So, if i place an AMO today at some price to buy a stock, let’s say for Rs. 100, will it be valid for any price fluctuation during that day or will it expire if the stock doesn’t open at Rs.100.
Regards
AB
the order will get placed at 100, will be valid till end of day.
If I place AMO at 8 am for selling XYZ share at some target price and if the share price not reach to my target price. Can you tell me what happen in this case Q.1) AMO automatically cancelled at 9:15 am or it exist till market close 4 pm Q.2) If AMO exist for a day then can i Modify order after 9:15 am or later ?
1. It will exist till end of day.
2. Yes you can modify anytime after 9.15 am
Are pre-market orders (MIS, for example) valid only till 9.08AM or till 3.20AM (square-off time)?
valid till 3.20pm
Thanks for the info…
Amo orders placed at 8 30am and pre market order placed at 9 am for the same stock..
Sir plz clerify me.. Which order will be executed first..
In pre market session..
index futures are eligible for pre-market orders?
Hi Abhishek,
BUY/SELL Orders for FNO segment cannot be placed during the Pre-open session:
Also, Zerodha has made recent changes to how The AMO order functions:
https://zerodha.com/marketintel/Bulletin/316
Hi , can u plz tell me why all my pre open orders in nifty options are getting rejected
Akash, Future and option orders can’t be placed during the pre-market session.
Can I place AMO for buying call option on Sunday ? Will be executed on Monday as soon as it opens ? Or can I place it at 9 AM on Monday ?
Hi Chandrasekaran, Since F&O orders can’t be placed during pre-market session, All F&O AMO orders will continue to be placed at 9:15 am as soon as the markets open.
Sir plz clearify me..
Suppose i have strong feeling that price of this n this stock will rise up.. So shud i place a amo order or an normal order at @9 to get the shares at early as possible. .
Hi Rahul,
You have a better chance at the order getting executed when placing an AMO.
nitin ji,
what is difference between normal margin and mis margin in fno equity
Vijay,
MIS margins are 40% of the NRML margins.
Ex: If the NRML margin on a contract is Rs.50,000 in MIS you’ll only require Rs.20,000 to take that position.
Check here for a more detailed explanation.
hi, i am new entrant right today is my first day with ZERODHA.
let me know if i places a AMO order and it`s not executed in pre market session , can i cancel it on day trading time ,yes or no
vijay kumar arora dwarkA NEW DELHI
Vijay,
Such orders will get cancelled if the order hasn’t been executed.
You would be able to check the status of such orders in the order book.
As per what I’ve understood, AMO orders are sent to exchange at 9.15AM and are valid till 3.20PM so they won’t get canceled during pre-market duration. Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong.
You are correct. If they are MIS orders it is valid till 3.20 PM, if it is CNC/NRML, it is until end of trading day.
Hi Nithin,
I am a BTST trader in FnO. I buy during mkt hours and place AMO sell orders the same night and wait till next morning 9.08 AM to see if the underlying stock is showing strength and depending on that, I try to modify it. Since the last 3 sessions, some of my orders could be modified, some not. Could kindly clarify as none of the customer care guys could answer my question and I’m sure I’ll face this 2moro morning as well. They even said they ‘ll arrange a call back but never received any which is strange as per the high Zerodha standards.
Please specify clear timings when I can amend these orders. If I’m not able to modify, should i change the AMO to regular order?
This is very important. Kindly reply asap. Thanks.
Pratheesh
Hi, all AMO orders can be modified only till 9.10 am. Am checking why our team didn’t inform.
Thanks Nithin for your quick reply. Huge fan of your company’s efforts and Pi! Through your system, you have turned retailers like me to become marketers of your products thru word of mouth.
nitin,
please tell me, can we cancel orders like this in market time 9.15 to 3.30
Hi Nithin,
Consider if I want to buy the stock at Rs.100 at 10:30 AM and I want to sell the stock at 11:30 AM with the price at Rs.105. How it can be done? Please help.
Hi Nithin,
On Zerodha Kite Platform the chart for the Stock or futures are displaying time on X-Axis as 14.15 @ 9.15AM in the morning.This is for the first time i am observing.Awaiting your response.
Regards,
Radha Krishna
Hmm.. can you see your computer time. If your computer time is set wrong, this might show wrong.
The decision to limit AMOs only to limit orders & at pre-open timings seems just an excuse and an easy way out by zerodha towards their problems.
Instead, a more pragmatic approach would have been firing AMO Limit orders in pre-open session and market orders when market opens.
As always customer service, is always recused by zerodha.
You still haven’t made GTC orders available. One of the discount broker has already made it available.
Going by your approach towards AMO, seems just empty words towards GTC introduction.
Vaibhav, these are not things that can be deployed in a hurry. We are working on sending both market and SL orders for equity at 9.15, but this requires work/time. At the scale we are at, we can’t give a feature that can cause us issues. Exchanges don’t support GTC, it is a layer we have to build(all pending GTC/VTC at end of day has to be replaced next day morning as AMO. there is no way to keep the order on exchange system). There was a recent big arbitration case where the client has gone to SEBI saying he had placed a VTC order, market gapped down and his order wasn’t executed. He is claiming for the losses. The other guy is a % brokerage guy,he can probably take this risk, we charging 0 can’t.
I purchased 50share at market price using AMO, market price was 125 and than when market opened next day it cost me 129.80 even in whole day price never went above 125.5 how come i was charged much higher then price??
Ankesh, first few ticks of the day are always volatile, it is best to always place a limit order.
everybody saying Today, 25-04-2017, is the last trading day for cairn India. now i have just found 33180 shares are in post market offers side. so tomorrow what will happen to these shares ?.
thanks in advance.
Yes, as per the corporate action in this case it is undergoing scheme of arrangement which results in it’s suspension of trading from tomorrow(26th April) and all shareholders of cairn will receive an interim dividend of Rs 17.7 per share as approved by board of directors of vedanta along with 1 equity share of vedanta and 4 redeemable preference shares of face value of Rs 10 with a coupon of 7.5%. To note cairn is merged with vedanta.
Any idea how and when these preferential shares would reflect on Kite?
It won’t show up on Kite as it is not listed on the exchanges. You can see it only by logging into your demat account on CDSL.
When we do intraday trading during pre market session, which order should we provide?
Can we provide a bracket order? (limit or market order?)
Can we provide a cover order? (limit or market order?)
No brackets or cover allowed in premarket.
Hello sir,
If any company is suspended from exchange due to some reason..Is there any possible way to get back of related company shares which borrowed earlier..
Companies are suspended for different reasons, removing them from suspension is the prerogative of the regulators. If they are removed from suspension, they become trade-able again.
Hello Sir,
As I fall into the category of – ( This facility is available on Zerodha for people who can’t actively track the markets from 9:15 AM to 3:30 PM )
I would like to request , to Place a BRACKET ORDER for next Day.
If I am not mistaken Other Brokers do providing this Facility.
Regards.
hi, many times i place order with zerodha in amo previous day and when i saw in next day pre market open..the time reflect to me is 9.00.08 or 9.00.23 or 9.00.45…Why exactly you don’t trigger to nse/bse server at 9.00.00am…This make lots of difference and miscalculation…Other brokers i found the hit reflection in pre market order with proper timing…9.00.00…Can you guide or give me any suggestion…
The orders are fired at 9am, the Exchanges have a limit on the number of orders they can process each second. They would be a few million requests and the orders get placed chronologically.
Hello Sir,
This is regards with equity which I want to purchase & its order book…I will appreciate your suggestion…There are certain shares where liquidity is very less and traded volume/value at frequency of two to three days time….
The query is for eg. the closing price of a share is 109…There are two buy quantities Qty 200 @ Price 104 & other Qty 50 @ price 105…and one sell quantity 50 @ 120…
a)How to ensure a buy and match the order in such a way that I get the delivery of shares in AMO/pre opening session or during market hours at price of Rs 109 or less?
b)What to do for a good buy or match order if there is a huge price gap between the buy & sell orders as compared to the closing price or the last traded price?
c)Why at times it happens that there are no/few sellers but the closing price moves upwards during the day ?
A broker only provides an execution platform. The Order matching happens at the Exchange end. Only if the bid & ask match, it’ll result in a trade, otherwise, the orders remain pending in the system.
Hello Nitin
I have set some AMO in past and they are sent to exchange in Premarket. But some of them got cancelled because script is not allowed in premarket. It would be better if zerodha sends only those orders in premarket which are allowed, and those not allowed can be sent at 9:15 AM
Feedback taken; will pass it on to the concerned team.
I was just wondering if I can quote maximum price at which I want to buy an equity and still get a best deal using AMO when the trades are executed?
Example say Stock X had last closing value of 100. I want to buy it at lowest possible price going upto 102. Can I setup the trade such that if the stock opens at 98, I get it at 98 not at 102 (maximum limit) at which i have placed the order?
Yeah, you just have to place a limit AMO buy order of 102. It will buy at the best price upto 102.
Say, I’ve 100 Stocks of “Company Y” in my Demat Account. I’ve sold them as CnC and as usual they are showing in ” Open Position “.
Now prices of the stocks have lowered further. Can I buy them back as CNC and sell them as CNC again to make it a intraday deal and book additional profit. For eg :
1. 100 stocks of Company Y sold from my Demat account as CNC @ 255 and they are showing in Open Position
2. Price of the stocks lowered to Rs. 250. In open position it’s showing Rs. 500 as Profit.
3. Now I buy the stocks back again as CNC @ 250 to book the profit of Rs. 500.
4. Now I sell the stocks again as CNC to make it a intraday trade @ 250 as I don’t want the delivery of the stock in my demat account.
Is this possible ? Please. reply fast. Thanks.
Yes you can do that.
Is any kind of analysis facilities are available at your platform that help me to buy stocks which give me profit?if yes than please give me details sir.
thankyou
Hmm.. I’d say the best bet is to go through http://zerodha.com/varsity/. Good place to start learning the right way to trade.
could i sold the stocks in ragular time 9:15 to 3:30pm which i bought in AMO??
Yes
how to carry today’s stop loss order tomorrow to prevent loss in gap down or gap up position ? ( in commodity normal trading )
Not really possible to capture the gap up or down. Exchanges cancel all order end of day and new orders placed when market opens next day.
Paras, it’s been explained in detail here: https://tradingqna.com/t/what-is-better-for-faster-execution-after-market-order-or-placing-market-at-open/4639
Hi,
After recent changes in AMO, if the target is hit in MIS between 9:00 and 9:15 the trades gets executed and it
shows in positions immediately. Limit order is better option for buy(long) and sell(short) positions if we know the
expected price. Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Prasanna
Yes, limits are better.
bse server and nse server what catch first pre order or amo orders..and at what time..
Pre-market matching happens at 9.07 am, so it is first
Also let me know the zerodha amo timing plz
AMO 3.30pm to 9am
If i know one of company share buying and selling price on daily basis. which is better timing amo or pre-market order…to participate first come first service…
Pre-market is better.
Thanxs for your revert sir….But can you pls explain y pre market and not amo
All AMO’s are placed at 9.15 am after market opening on the exchange. Pre-market orders are already on the exchange before market opening, so they are higher up the queue. Also within pre-market, if order matching happens, trade can happen at 9.07 am, much before AMO/market opening.
Typing mistake, i want my order to reach at the earliest in the morning.
Hi sir, recently some changes have been done with AMO time and it is sent to exchange at 9 am. Now, if I want my order to reach the exchange then shall I place AMO or place an order at 9 am or 9.15 am. Also, is there any sequence followed in sending AMO to exchange?
Your question has been answered in detail here: https://tradingqna.com/t/what-is-better-for-faster-execution-after-market-order-or-placing-market-at-open/4639
Hi Nithin,
AMO feature helping us to place order after our office hours in the evening, but is is becoming tedious to enter same AMO if it is not triggered during trading time. Currently I am placing 6 to 8 AMO daily, but it will increases to 36 – 40 according to my portfolio. It will be helpful if AMO placed carry forward to next day if it does not get triggered.
I have gone through this blog and for past one year many people asked same question, When we can expect the solution?
Regards,
Yadhukar
It is taking time, but hopefully sooner than later.
I have just started trading with Zerodha for the past one week. I find the software is quite simple, but definitely covers all the features, what is needed for a trading to be done. I got various doubts during this period, all of which have been sorted out to my satisfaction.
I find your Support team is very good, they are able to answer. No doubt, always there will be some scope for Improvement, which I find Zerodha will look into.
Will i be able to get leverage on after market order?
And is there a stop loss for after market order?
Hi Nithin ,
Please put Alert & Notes available in Kite. I really love Kite…only miss these 2 things.
Regards,
Puneet
Hi ,
How to place a Target Orders with the Trigger Price?
Target orders are always limit orders. There is no concept as trigger orders.
Is there any provision of getting extra margin (i.e. Bracket Order or MIS) while placing the order with AMO.
Please help on priority..
You can place MIS as AMO with extra margin. Not BO. MIS margins are as on this calculator: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Futures/
Dear sir,
I am a new user of zerodha as i got frustrated with some other share broking firm (I don’t want to mention the name).The thing i want to ask is,during the pre market session after 9.08 am can i place the order and will it be forwarded to exchange? My current broking agent allows me to do the same thing,but the order can’t be either modified or cancelled.I want to know,you also offer the same or not?.
2nd thing i want to ask is,WIth my current broking agent,during the pre session before 9.08 i have got some of my orders got executed.Will the same be possible with your’s?
Vaheed, check the explanation and the link I have shared above. The mechanism is exactly the same with all brokers. Do read the NSE link I have shared in the first para of this blogpost.
I am trying to put AMO on zerodha but after placing the order , the message is “order placed”
But soon after than the OrderBooks does not show any pending orders
sometime it shows but goes away after a minute
Also if if try to place more than one AMO order then Orderbook does removes all AMO orders
Is this normal or issues with kites ? Without AMO , kite does not make any sense for me
please help
Hmmm.. shouldn’t happen. Having this checked.
All the orders which did not show up in Order book did got submitted to exchange and some got executed.
Since I could not see placed AMOs in orderbook actually I tried to place the same order again and this cause kites to issue multiple orders.
This is annoying as not able to see order in Orderbook may lead use to place multiple orders by mistake
Nitin, I guess our team is trying to reach you. This shouldn’t happen, we can check it out.
Hi
ZERODHA Support is good. Thanks.
However I tried to use Mobile App which did not showed the issue
Then I switched to CHROME brownser which also is working fine
However IE-11 still has this issue. It seems Clicking Orderbook link does not have any effect as the result are no submitted order shown in browser where has order is still queued in Banckend
Since Mobile App and CHROME browser works for now I am happy trading @ ZERODHA but do fix issues with IE -11 at your end
Thanks
Nitin Kabra
what r the charges for amo orders does u charge whether the order excuted or not i mean does u charge for placing an amo order if yes what r the charges
No special rate for AMO, we charge only on executed orders.
Sir I have one query,if I want to buy any stock on exactly its opening price then should I place pre market order on market price before 9:08am ?
You can place pre-market order, but there is no guaranteed way to catch the exact opening price.
Today i got shares on its opening price after placing market order in pre open session.
Another question is that i am unable to place bracket order during market hours,plz solve my problem.
Maybe BO is not enabled, can you send an email to [email protected] with your client ID
Today i logged in at Pi and try to put AMO at 2:42 pm but just after click on OK in AMO screen, my order was rejected and reason shown their is “Admin stopped AMO”. (This was first time i tired to put AMO.)
Kindly clarify as I am confuse why this is happen.
Thank you.
Prateek, we are doing some maintenance work, try it in a while.
Sir is it possible to place intraday AMO orders for tomorrow like for example Buy if stock future price is greater than 100, target order 105 with corresponding SL and Sell if stock future is lesser than 90 , target order 85 with corresponding SL assuming that today close price was 95. All 6 orders will be treated as separate orders then what will be the margin requirements for such kind of AMO order for intraday. Is it possible in nifty stock futures in same scrip. Please clarify.
Vishnu Badarayana
It is possible to place only the entry order as AMO, i.e buy if greater than 100. The other two has to be placed only after this order gets executed.
Good Evening Nithin,
I have been in the markets for over 2 decades & I must congratulate you for providing a good platform. I am just trying to test zherodha by making small trades.
Is it possible to have Good Till Canceled orders in this system?
We’re working on it.
thanks for the reply nitin. Then to get a best fill after the market open in first second. which order type is good to trade.please suggest.
like if we have any news after the market close which order type is good ?
Market order is always best to get the most instant price.
i want to place a AMO order for usdinr as a market order not limit order to get the first price of the day.
just want to know that i will get the first open price of the day?
No guarantee Sameer, orders get into a queue as soon as market opens, so no guarantee what tick u will get at open.
I’m not able to place AMO in Kite and not able to login between 1am to 3am to my account to place AMO. I tried to complain this by calling customer support but they dont understand and asked me to keeping trying. I really dont understand what is the issue.
Vaman, we run end of day process around that time, so you will not be able to place orders at that time.
Hi Zerodha Team,
I noticed 1 issue in Kite android platform, is that its not placing AMO orders to NSE on opening exactly at same time once the markets opens.
Example- I placed a AMO for currency derivative before 9.00 AM today, but when I see in the order book it shows the time of 9.00.09 AM means there is a delay in sending the AMO to NSE by 9 seconds, it seems because of this my that order didn’t went thru and stands as open.
Please see the attached screenshots where the order details is being showed in screenshot & in another it is showing the OHLC details of the USDINR derivative, as per the OHLC it goes below my bid price but my order didn’t got activated.
I believe that because of this my order didn’t got executed.
I faced this issue earlier also for equity F&O section….
Kindly advice on this issue.
I sent this mail to support team also…. please look into this…
Regards
Shikha Gupta
Shikha, the first few seconds on market opening, orders tend to go in queue. So it is not possible to place it exactly at opening technically. It is luck of draw, somedays it can happen faster, some day a little later.
So do we have any way out to get rid of this problem.. or no solution..
Unfortunately nothing much can be done.
how we can place premarket orders and post market orders??
As explained above, you can check this manual as well https://kite.trade//docs/kite/
I cant login at 12.30 am to 2am to place “AMO”. The error message is “MSG Error”, i dont understand what is wrong when you say AMO time is 4pm to 9:14am. And once around 3am i logged into to place AMO but application didnt display my holdings. This is something very weird and irritating.
We run some processes between 1 – 3.30 am during which time you will not be able to access the system. Will check why the holdings weren’t showing. An AMO doesn’t validate the holdings, so you can still go ahead and place the order.
Hi,
I placed an CNC AMO for SYNGENE with a stop loss. but it was squared off the same day. whats the problem with this?
Have asked someone from the dealing team to check and get back to you by Monday eod. It’s best to write to [email protected] with all details of the trade for account specific queries.
Dear Sir,
Two questions
1. What happens during 3:30 to 3:40? Is there any activity during this period?
2. Are orders in derivatives segment allowed in post market session i.e. from 3:40 to 4:00?
Thanks
It’s the post market session that opens at 3:40 pm and is available till 4:00 pm. You can only place Equity orders during this time. It’s explained in detail here: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/pre-marketpost-marketafter-market-orders
Dear sir,
During what time can we place AMO after close of trading on Friday or after close of trading on a day before a trading holiday?
Thank you
You can place it after 4:00 pm for Equities any day.
Do we have stop loss with AMO?
Suppose I am bullish/bearish on some scrip and when it’s approaching some level I may want buy/sell it with stop loss. Do we have such feature!!
Yes, you can place SL orders for now.
I purchased shares in BSE, till yesterday it was showing BSE. But today it is showing NSE market. Often it happens in my kite account. Why it happens?
Hari, by default we show NSE prices for LTP on holdings page since liquidity is higher. Once in holdings, you can sell on NSE and BSE, based on your convenience. Which exchange you bought it from doesn’t matter.
It says 3.30pm and my MIS orders getting cancelled and automatically executed by 3.21pm. Can you increase the time atleast for 5 minutes? Why it is so early when the actual time specified is 3.30pm?
3.30 pm is when market closes. We have to close all MIS positions before that. 3.20 pm gives us enough leeway for our risk management team.
Sir, I have bought during mkt hours 100 shares under CNC ! I wish to Sell the same on the same day in Post Market Session. Pi not allowing me to sell with the message : “No holding” What is the procedure to square off the trade the same day in Post Market session? Regards.
Hi Nithin,
As a person who can’t monitor the market actively between 0915-1530, I want to place order with my limits. But, if there’s no selling at my stated price limit, then the orders get automatically cancelled the moment market closes for the day. Why cant that order be valid till the execution is done at my stated price or till I myself cancel the order. So, in a nutshell, Zerodha has to provide a platform where the validity of the order should extend beyond the DAY, till the point the order is actually executed.
Hope you will come up with some solution.
Yes, on our list of things to do.
Hi, Can I place Intraday AMO. I meant to say, If I place AMO “BUY” on previous day let’s say @11 PM, will it be valid for next day’s Intraday..i.e Can I “SELL” that order in next day in between 9:15 to 3:30 Normal day session?
No, AMO for next day will be valid only if placed after 6pm in the evening.
Sorry. That link is working please ignore my earlier post.
But, that link does not show the high and low prices for the pre market session. Also, those charts are not enlargeable and does not give any sense of anything. Some of them are straight and some of them are curved. If possible, can you please share some info on how to interpret them.
Thank you.
How it works is
Orders won’t be traded during 9.00 to 9.07 ie during order collection period thus no point of high or low. Order matching period starts immediately after completion of order collection period. Orders are matched at a single (equilibrium) price which will be open price.
Also we can see the indicative open/equilibrium price and volume on market depth during order collection period, as the name suggests they are only indicative open and volume and are keep on changing based on demand and supply during collection period.
ok. thank you Nithin.
Hi Nithin, Not sure whether I can post this question here. But I feel it is relevant. Sorry if it is not. Where can we find the charts for pre market session i.e the trading happened from 9AM to 9:07AM. Is there a way to find the high & low prices for that session for a given stock? I would like to know whether this is possible for NSE stocks. If possible then how? and where?
Thanks.
Nizam, you can see it on the NSE website. Check this link.
hello sir plz clarify my doubt
I logged in kite at 8:50am and some stocks already show bid quantity means this no of quantity already placed in order
then I place order 9 am my order is placed before or after this bid quantity ?
Exchanges conduct pre market session for Equity segment that starts at 9 and goes on till 9.08. You can place Equity orders during such time, not before that. At 8:50, there will be no bid/ask showing
Sir, I am new to this field Please clarify my doubt.
1)If i purchased a particular company share on 21st november at 6:00 pm as CNC Product type In AMO, Then Closing price of that company share on 21st november is considered or next day opening price of that company share on 22nd november is considered??
2) Can we do Buy/sell of GROUP B,XC,XD,XT company stock in AMO?
Thank You
1. Your stock will get bought at the opening price on 22nd.
2. Yes.
Hi, Good article, can bracket orders and cover orders be placed after market ? Thanks
No, you can’t.
Hi,
I have bought 50 shares 1 week ago and are currently in my holdings. If I place a CNC sell request using AMO with some limit for those shares, will it get sold from my holdings or will be considered as intraday trade and I have to buy them again the same day to book profit ?
If you use CNC, it will be considered as if you are selling from holdings. Yes, you can buy back as CNC again, it will become an intraday trade.
I had placed a market order (CNC type) post market at 3:57 PM today, but “Order Book” is displaying “Order Type” as “L”, whereas i think it should have been displayed as “M”. Let me know if you want me to send a screen of this is a bug, or correct me. Thanks.
In post market, market orders are not allowed. All orders can be placed only at closing price, so it automatically becomes limit price.
Can we place am MIS order for equity in pre-market session and in AMO?
Yes
What is the validity of AMO? I am currently using icicidirect.com and they provide VTC facility so the order can be place for very long time period. i.e. 15 days.
Is this same with zerodha also?
No Jaydev, currently AMO is valid only till end of next day.
Sir, I’m a newbie to stock market. I’m facing problem on placing orders of penny stocks such as Birlacotsyn. Even if I place order previous day evening, the order doesn’t get executed and finally gets expired around 3:30. Is there any specific trick/shortcut to buy/sell penny stocks? Is it due to disclosed quantity, which I never entered for any stock while placing order?
Unless your price arrives on the exchange, not guaranteed way to execute orders. Very tough when trading penny stocks which typically keeps moving in circuits.
How to place a premarket order?
As explained above. You can also checkout here: https://kite.trade/docs/kite/
Sir
I always want to buy/sell share in pre market session but find difficulties in placing order on exact time i.e 9:00:00 AM. So please let me know as how to get the exact time(live) of NSE/BSE with accuracy of milliseconds. Actually I want to match my clock time as per BSE/NSE time.
Manowar, it tough to manually match this to the exact start.
Hi Nithin,
Is it possible to automate the order sending at 9:00:00 am through algorithmic trading or through any other Zerodha’s software/trading platform so that orders hit the exchange at sharp 9:00:00 am and are first in the queue ?
Does Zerodha provide any such facility ?
Not really possible, at the first tick everyone gets into a queue. No algo for this as such.
suppose i place AMO order on 20th october at 5pm and trade not executed on 21st october , so i want to know when AMO order will cancel which i placed on 20th october ?
End of day 21st, around 3.40 pm
Can we place pre-market order for F&O segment i.e. from 9:00 AM to 9:08 AM as we can do it for equity ?
No. Pre market session is only for the Equity segment.
Great work. Good and quick response
1) Can we place AMO MIS order with stoploss and target using kite?
2) what is 1) price and 2) trigger in case of stoploss order?
1. Yes, if you have enough margins.
2. Check this post: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/zerodha-trader-software-version/stop-loss-orders-limit-market
Pending CNC equity orders should get cancelled at 15.30Hrs and blocked margin should be released so that buy order could be placed in post-market session.
I could not place buy order in post-market session as margin was not released.
Will have this checked.
Anjali, you can only cancel BSE orders after 3.30; NSE orders get stuck dont know why. I too buy in the post closing session; what I do is use the Cancel All option in Order book at 3.29.55 that is 5 seconds before markets close.
Hi, Sir
Can I place AMO sale order for any commodity in NRML ( Spouse I have one lot of Gold in buy) and I want to place AMO at 9.59 or before to sale the same when the market open.
Regards,
Vinay Mamgain
Yes, you can.
hi sir I want to know about short sell orders .what diffrace between orders like as a MARKET,LIMIT,sl,slm and bo,co,regular orders ..pls tell me …
http://support.zerodha.com/kb/faq.php?id=151
Dear Kamath,
Today when i try to put BANKNIFTY PUT Option of more than 250 lots in a single order , it is not allowing to place the order giving error message like” only maximum 2501 shares is allowed for my ID DP1423 across all segments) because of which i’m not able to put my orders quickly and lost the best rate for the BANKNIFTY06OCT19600PE at 50……Could you please let me know when i’m not able to put more than 250 lots at a time in single order itself what is the logic behind it for restricting it to 2501 shares in BANKNIFTY OPTION.
Regards,DP1423
Maximum orders that one can place in Bank nifty per order is 2500. This limit is set by the Exchange. You can click here to know the maximum quantities per order for all future contracts: https://www1.nseindia.com/content/fo/qtyfreeze.xls
Hi, i have question regarding the pre order. Can we use this to short a stock even if we dont have that stock in our account for intraday purpose?
please advice.
thank you
tapan
You can place an MIS (Intraday) order to short sell a stock.
How to know the closing price of an equity in post-market session in Kite. C in market depth is closing price of previous day. Market watch and limit order window displays last traded price if no transaction is executed in the scrip in post-market session. No rate is displayed in Market depth if no bid exists. Order gets cancelled when I select order type as “market” in post-market session perhaps because it is placed at last traded price if no transaction is executed in the scrip in post-market session. Today’s closing price of an equity is not available in post-market session in kite.
Checking
I am waiting for a favour.
In the post closing session you can only place market orders at the ATP (Average traded price) that is declared by the Exchange which will also be the closing price.
So in all likeliness, the closing price in the normal market will be equal to the closing price in the Post closing session.
In post-market session “Market order” displays price as zero. It always gets cancelled. C in market depth is closing price of previous day. Market watch and limit order window in post-market session displays LTP (not ATP) of normal session. No rate is displayed in Market depth if no bid exists.
Today’s ATP is not available in post-market session in kite.
How to see ATP ?
The atp which is the weighted average price of the trades that take place in last half an hour of every trading session is arrived almost within a few minutes of the markets having gotten closed at 3.30 pm
Where is it indicated in Kite ?
Hi nitin,
Can i place the order and execution of AMO by 9am of the trading day instead of BTST in future trades.
You can place AMO, but I didnt get the BTST bit.
How to know the closing price in post-market session in Kite. Market watch displays last traded price if no transaction is executed in the scrip in post-market session. No rate is displayed in Marketdepth if no bid exists. I think Post-market Order as market order are placed at last traded price if no transaction is executed in the scrip in post-market session and hence cancelled.
IF you are looking at equity, closing price shows up as C in the market depth. For F&O only LTP will show. Yes post market order is allowed at only one price, the closing price.
Yes, I am looking at Equity. I raised query because C in market depth is closing price of previous day. Today’s closing price is not available. Kindly review.
Hi, I have 25-30 scrips..now is it possible to uplaod a file for AMO for selling the scrips at any limit or stop loss price as against placing AMO for all scrips individually?
Bharat, we don’t currently allow basket orders on PI/Kite, we are working on making it happen.
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Hello , How can I place an order which is valid say for a month for a given price rather than getting expired in one session if that price has not reached ? I am a Zerodha Account holder , you can ask your rep to contact me if more details are required.
Milind, currently we only allow good till day orders, so all orders get cancelled end of day.
Sir if i place AMO after 6:30 PM, Can i modify it between 9:08 am – 9:15 am the next day. Suppose on 22/09/2016 ASIANPAINT closed at 1189. On 22/09/2016 after 6:30 pm I placed order for buying ASIANPAINT at 1195, qty- 500. Now on 23/09/2016 at 9:08 am the opening price of ASIANPAINT comes at 1196, can I modify my AMO of 1195 to 1196 between 9:08 am to 9:15 am ? Thank you.
Yes you can modify AMO order between 9.08 am and 9.15 am also.
hello sir
when we buy shares in cnc ,and after two days when we sell it . why it again shows in positions?
suppose we buy it in 50 per share and sell it in 52 ,after selling it , if the share increases to 53 then in position it shows in loss with avg cost 52 in the same day . then actually what happenning either i had profit or loss? please answer me.or after that any process is there?
It shows in positions only for that particular day. It shows there just in case you decide to buy back again, in which case it will be an intraday trade. Any P&L shown after you sell CNC in positions doesn’t effect you at all.
Hi,
I am new and I want to open my 1st account in Zerodha with zero knowledge of ‘share market’. I need training… like: How to trade?.. etc, but not in documented manner. Do you have any good trainer for me? Any support?
We don’t have any trainer as such, but Varsity is like one of the most popular education initiatives on markets from around the world. Check it out: http://zerodha.com/varsity/
Hi team zerodha,
As known to all, BSE has put weekly/quarterly/yearly filters on many scrips & some good quality cos have stuck in upper limit. In such upper limit, chances are high of matching in premarket session. So, it will be very helpful if all AMO orders hit exchange at 9:00:01, and if not executed, carry forward at 9:15 market opening automatically. Many brokers are offering this. Zerodha users can’t place order sharply at 9:00:01 and miss many opportunities where other software based systems win. On October 1st, many filters are going to change. Zerodha should speedup if they are working on this already.
Regards
Hi Anand,
Can you please share the brokers who are providing this facility.
But BO gives upto 20 times leverage right?why cant AMO?
Bracket orders can’t be placed before market opening. You can place it once market opens.
How much leverage will I get if I use AMO?the same as bracket order?
AMO is after market order. How much leverage depends again on if you are placing AMO as NRML or MIS (MIS has more leverage, check our calculator)
i want to use AMO as MIS ?what is the max leverage i can get?
For equity upto 10 times, for F&O 40% of exchange margin requirement.
Please ignore, I can see that now.
Hi nitin,
Can I put a market order at Friday and expect it to be executed by Sunday?
No Gaurav, orders are executed only when exchanges are open.
Hi Nithin,
I am new to trading and use Kite for last two weeks. I am unable to find some equities like WELSPUNIND ,PRABHAT DIARY in https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Equity/ (Margin calculator). Last week also I tried to execute a BUY on a different Equity but it failed , I guess reason being it was not shown in MARGIN CALCULATOR. Is there any restrictions on some Equities in Zerodha . Please forgive if it is my ignorance.
Faz, intraday leverage is given only to stocks which are liquid and don’t hit circuits. IF it is not shown on that list, it would mean you will need 100% capital.
hi sir how to apply ipo in kite or zerodha i did n”t get in zerodha kite
Krish, online IPO is still not possible through Zerodha.
good evening sir
there is any chance to apply ipo in zerodha(kite,pi) please tell me
Krish, not possible for now. You can use the demat details and fill up a physical form.
Hello Sir,
Can i place AMO in MIS or CNC
Yes you can.
Hi Nithin Kamath sir,
I want to place a order in F&O during 9 to 9:08, which is pre open session, is it possible. Pls update me i am looking for broker who can give this facility..
No broker can place order in F&O in pre-market. Pre-market is only for equity.
Pi should generate Alert if price is entered beyond a certain percentage of last traded price to prevent mistakes in order price. User Settings should facilitate selection of the percentage. Similarly an alert should be generated if the order value exceeds a pre-defined value to avoid inadvertent orders. User Settings should facilitate selection of the pre-defined value.
Hi Nithin,
I have seen this quite often that the open price mentioned in google finance or even in Zerodha Kite/Pi doesnt match with the open price at 9:15 AM or the open price of the first, 1 min candle. Do you have any idea why is it so?
For eg, Today RCOM opened at 51.60 INR but we can clearly see that the open at 9:15 is 52.05 INR.
Thanks in advance
Is it something to do with pre-open?
Can i place AMO between 9:08 AM to 9:15 AM .
Yes
From what I understand the current available leverage is 11x for MIS orders and 20.8x for BO.
Is 11x leverage given for MIS orders without a Stop Loss? Will I get more leverage for MIS orders if Stop Loss is provided?
Thanks in advance 🙂
Yes the leverages of upto 11x is for those without stoploss. If you are adding stoploss brackets/covers, you get higher.
Can we place a single order which can automatically be placed daily till its execution for Equity & Options.
Currently no, but on our list of things to do.
Suppose LTP of a share yesterday was Rs. 10 and I expect the price will open at Rs. 10.15 on next day. If considering this case and I place two orders simultaneously during pre market session (buy @ Rs 10.05 and sell @ Rs 10.10). Please tell me if both orders will execute or not. will I get profit or not..?
It won’t executed if market opens at 10.15
I have submitted application for Demat and equity trading account at Zerodha. With my existing broker Mangal Keshav, all my AMO go to Pre-market session at 9.00AM. Some are executed and remaining go to normal session at 9.15AM. May I request Zerodha to adopt the idea.
Working on it.
Sir, how much leverage will i get if i have 1 lakh in my trading account for intraday trading ?
Is there any extra charges if i’m using leverage or is it same like normal trading ?
I”m from kerala and zerodha is having an office in cochin.
So is it possible to place my orders by calling to cochin office ?
Yes you can call by calling the Cochin office. You get upto twenty times leverage for intraday.
good info.
thnx
Hi ,
how to place order after market in kite?
-/Manish
Check this https://kite.trade/docs/kite/#advanced-order-types
Hi,
On 2nd Aug 2016, HCL tech closes at 800 and on 3rd Aug morning(around 8AM) I come to realise that it will move up so I put MKT order at 9AM but it opens at 869 and my order get executed at this price and then it goes down for the rest of the day so, can any one tell me if there is a way to get profit out of this i.e. buy at “previous close” price and sell today at any price ??????????
BR,
Vikas
There is no way to buy a stock at previous closing price.
Hi Nithin,
Thank you for your quick reply.
Can you please provide some of your valuable suggestion for stock trading for a new guy like me ?
For e.g. : In what type of stocks should I invest, initially with how much money should I enter into stock trading, some trading tactics so as to make some profit and not losing the money etc. ?
BR,
Vikas
Vikas, we have a very popular education initiative http://zerodha.com/varsity/
Sir, If i buy XYZ company’s 200 Shares on monday evening at 7:00 PM, can i sell that XYZ company’s 200 shares on tuesday morning at 9:16 AM ????
You can only trade during market hours – 9:15 am – 3:30 pm. You can’t buy shares at 7:00 pm. However if you’ve bought it during the day, you can sell it next day at 9.16 am. Such transactions are called BTST – Buy today, sell tomorrow transactions. There’s a risk though – zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/btstatst-buyacquire-today-sell-tomorrow
Sir, why we dont have “net position” in Pi.? It helps..Its there in NEST and really helps..Can you incorporate?..
There’s a ‘Net Qty’ available in the Admin position window. You can right click on the Column header to add more columns.
Hi….do we have GTC (good till cancel) option in Zerodha ?
Sir…plz reply….do zerodha kite has GTC option?….if not please include. Another feature worth adding is the digital clock on the screen synchronized with exchange to facilitate first / last moment orders…..thx
No GTC as of now, clock will come up soon.
hi, imagine… open price is 485, i have placed my amo order to sell at 484.50, and in the candle chart of the stock im seeing it from 484rs, will my order by executed ?? pls reply me
Based on experience it was observed that AMO orders are sent into the trading system at 09;15:40 and by then the candle would have already captured the open price, Thus in your case the chance of your order getting executed is 50:50…
No guarantee. All AMO’s are fired to the exchange after market opening, so your order may or may not get executed if the 484 price is hit a fraction of second before your AMO reaches the exchange.
I feel that there should be a digital clock at the top in KITE website to ease the customer to sell and buy at exact time. Every time we have to check current time in different website during premarket and closing market time.
there is an overlapping time of Pre-market and After market order between 9:00AM to 9:15 AM. Can you please tell me if AMO orders get automatically opened during pre-market session and chances of executon in pre-market session…?/
Currently all AMO’s are fired only after market opening at 9.15am. So no overlapping
Nithin…
If I place a buy Pre- Market Order (9:00am – 9:08am) of an scrip at market price then…
Will it get executed at the current price exactly at sharp 9:15:00 am ( So I don’t face slippages)
OR
Will it take some seconds to get executed. (Which normally happens when I place a market order at 9:15am , it gets delayed by some seconds and I have to face slippages ?
hello sir, Is there any way to get benefit of gap up or gap down we see in commodities..
we generally see 20-30 points gap upnor gap down.
Using nymex/comex cmp we can predict what price market is gonaa open.
plz share if u have any method to get benefit of thus phenomenon
Hmm.. Sandip, if only I could predict :). This is the formula to convert CME price to local crude price.
Sir, I want to know how can we carry forward our orders to next day if it is not executed same day. it is very cumbersome to place same order everyday. is there any way otherwise??
Currently no way, but we are working on something for this.
I want to ask clear my doubt about commodity AMOs. suppose markrt closed yest @3100.
at nymex it went up.
and if it seems to be jump directly at 3150 at 10:00 AM.
suppose market opend @3115 and jumped to 3150.
ie. open prize-3115, cmp 3150(@10.00 am). and low is 3115 i.e open prize.
so in this case.
1) If i hv placed buy AMO (SL type) @ 3120, will my order get executed?
2) If i hv placed buy AMO (market order)
at3150. will my order get executed and what prize?
3) If i hv placed AMO( Limit order)@ buy @3120.
will my order get execute and if yes at what prize??
plzz answer.
Sandip, AMO doesn’t mean the order is placed on the exchanges before market open. All AMO orders placed by our clients is put in a basket and we send it to the exchange at market opening. AMO is as good as you placing an order after market opening. So,
1. Can’t say, most likely no.
2. Can’t say. It can be anywhere between 3115 to 3150.
3. Can’t say. If you place a limit buy order higher than the current price, it as good as market buying order.
If I trade after market hour.
For ex -I want to buy f&O lupin in nse
Current market prize is 1490
So if I put a limit 1500
And due to high volume next day market open at 1505. Will my order get execute @ 9:15 and if my predictions goes wrong and if lupin falls from 1490(current prize) as my limit I had put was 1505 will my order get execute.
Ty in advance!
Orders at the Exchange get executed on price,time priority. If your order to buy is the highest available bid, then it’ll get executed. If there are other bidders who’ve placed an order at the same price, the order will get traded in order of time priority. There’s no guarantee that placing an order at “x” price will guarantee execution.
Ty!
Appreciate it
hi , i m birendra saxena .i m face truble, that dashboard,order,holdings,position ,found are not properiy shon why ?how i escap from it? second how i can get ipo of L&T on 11july on zerodha. i have satrted since 4th july 16
Send account specific queries to [email protected] You can’t apply for IPO online. You can mention the zerodha demat account details on an IPO form and apply offline.
Today, 9 Jul 2016 (Sat), I just logged on through PI and found that trading on some stocks like TCS, Infy, Sun Pharma etc was ON. I even managed to buy some tocks of TCS. How is this possible when there is no trading on Sat. When tried buying more, error msg “Adapter…” was displayed. I tried AMO, earlier but “Admin rejected….” error was displayed. Kindly clarify as I am confused why there is trading on Sat. Thank you.
Uday, there was mock trading conducted by exchanges today. None of those prices are real, it is done to test out all the systems. We participate on every mock with the exchange, hence you see the prices changing.
Hi Team, can i sell future stock during pre-market time 09:00-09:08. i am not able to place the sell/buy order for furture during this time.
No you cannot. Only equity.
hi, as i see the stock goes up by 1% or more less before we could enter in that after 9:15 . how could we enter in that.
does the AMO do the trick and what price will i get the order executed if i place AMO. and if i place order at market price can i get price somewhere between the price after market opening and yesterday’s close.
plz rply soon…will help me and some of my friends..
Naman, AMO or any other orders actually enter the exchange servers only after 9.15 am. So there is no way for anyone to get a price between yesterdays close and todays open.
What does stop loss means in AMO buy order? Is it means to minimised lost as in cover order or price to enter the market?
Please clarify on this as I am confused.
Thanks
You can use the SL order to place a SL for your existing position or as an entry order to buy above a certain price or short below a certain price.
HI sir today crudeoil mini open@3363…… next second it goes to 3400 ….. using amo it put buy at 3364…. the order is not taken……….. what is the reason?
All AMO orders are accepted by the exchange after market opening. So it is possible that by the time your order reached the exchange, the price went up.
Hi sir ,
Can I put some nifty futures AMO orders Saturday and Sunday anytime ?
Yes.
I am placing order through AMO for crude oil [commodity]
open;3212
opening flash;3194
i am placing my order at 3211 on 9:59Am wheather the order taken or not.
Order will be taken.
DearnSir,
What is the procedure for placing the pre open market.
Pl explain.
thanks,
Explained in the post above.
Not yet ready to do it, but looking at some exciting set up for trading and need the clarification for the following:
I wish to place AMO (After market orders) for 50 stocks to buy and place SL orders/bracket orders for another 50 stocks . Is there any easier way to do it through say some Excel sheet etc. or do we have a Software for it. Or suggest some simple way to do it. Thanks.
Not possible on the trading platform, you will need some external software to do this.
Hi
I want to place intraday buy order which should execute in pre-opening session . Could you please let me know the way to do that and which parameter i need to select to place the order successfully (i.e Order Type : Day,CO,BO,AMO etc and any other ).
Sorry, just use the normal order type MIS and place it after 9am.
I am a zerodha account holder & trader. Can Stop Loss orders be placed as AMO (between 6.30 PM & 9.15 AM. Thx
Yes
Hi Nithin,
Is there any way to place a order for a week or so period on time. until successfully.
I don’t want to place the same order daily.
Thanks,
Jignesh
We are working on starting this feature Jignesh.
if stop loss order not allowed in pre market session then it is possible that i place an order without stop loss in pre market session and after execution of order add stop loss in continuous session i.e. after 09:15 .
please reply as soon as posible
in pre market session, can i place an buy or sell order with SL – M
Yes
In pre market session how it is possible –
Buy on market price with SL-M. AND SL should be rs.5 down from execution price. For ex- if buy price 100 then SL -95. If buy price 103 then SL- 98.
It is possible any how by bracket order, basket order, cover order, algo, pi or Any other way.
when i give market order in pre market session that are executed after 4 second of market open, why many time i see my order are executed 9.15.04 am. and i got some different price
Would help if you can send us an email with your client ID and the date on which the order got traded. The time stamps printed on the contract note are derived from the Exchange trade files, so it’s unlikely that it’ll be wrong.
can i place BO for executing nifty futures buy/sell in AMO>?????
No
I can’t access system between 8.30 – 4.30pm. I want to enter in trade in premarket section. For this case which order need to give.?
Use after market orders.
AMO order will execute only after 9.15, right? So my query is, is there any option to place pre market order before 9 am?
You can place Equity orders by placing normal limit/market orders in the pre opening session from 9.00 am to 9.07 am.
there are some key term in after market order section like disclosed qty,validity(day,ioc) and type(day,amo)..Please mention how the key term are works?
IOC order is Immediate or cancel. So if your order is not filled, it gets cancelled immediately. Day order is the order will be valid till end of day.
AMO orders are after market orders, using which you can place orders for next day.
Hi,
if i need to put the trigger for some bigger margin may be it will be tomorrow or next week .
which key need to use
Best to use IOC orders.
http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/zerodha-trader-software-version/orders-place-modify-cancel-view has answers to all your queries.
Dear Nithin,
Would you pleased to clarify the problem the retail/small trader faced in pi trading platform.
1. what is the criteria for using bracket order? bracket order are not activated in pi, I tried it.
Why should I place round figure in bracket order (fraction like 100.45, 100.65 could not be placed but 100, 101 could be placed)?
2. Why limit order can not be placed in cover order within predefined risk band. why there is only market order in cover order system. why there is no target orientation in cover order?
3. how to calculate leverage limit for individual stock?
Thanks & Regards,
1. Why would you use a Bracket order: Get the power of much higher leverage, with increased protection, and also ensuring that no profitable position turns into a loss. Bracket order is already enabled on Pi. Here’s the link to the blog which explains how to place a BO: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/tradezerodha/zerodha-trader-software-version/bracket-orders-trailing-stoploss-sl You can place a BO at any rate.
2. That’s the way the system has been designed. We’re talking to our vendors to provide the facility of placing a limit order through the CO option
3. Here’s the link to the leverage calculator: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Equity/
Hi Nithin,
When can i expect a T+5 Margin product in KITE????
Would be great if you get this done ASAP, so that we you customers would get benifited
Yes, working on it.
why are you charging rs 20 for AMO whereas zero for delivery orders
AMO delivery orders are also zero rupees. Only intraday orders are charged.
iS THE MARKET OPEN TODAY – SAT??? My kite console is allowing me to trade. I sold one share of HDFC bank just to check and the transaction went through…..
It is mock trading day today. https://zerodha.com/marketintel/Circulars/
Even my AMO got executed. How is this possible? Or is it mock trading or something?
Yep mock trading today: https://zerodha.com/marketintel/Circulars/
Hi , how to but equities / features at z nest platform in POST CLOSE- 20 minutes 9 between 03.40 to 4.00 O clock , simply by pressing F1 ?or Shift F1 ?
Yes, in post market you can place order normally, just F1/F2. You
Its 1:50 AM right now and I have rebooted my system, logged-out and logged-in of NOW Software and still not being able to place an AMO. This is the error.
Lib Error:om_store_after_mrkt_orders Request to NEST Failed
There might be end of day process running.
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Sir can I achieve following scenario using zerodha pi
“You place a buy order for RIL with a limit price of Rs 250. If the current price is greater than your limit price, order will remain pending and will be executed as soon as the price falls to Rs. 250 or below. In case the actual price of RIL on the exchange was Rs 248, your order will be executed at the best price offered on the exchange, say Rs 249. Thus you may get an execution below your limit price but in no case will exceed the limit buy price.”
— I want to know that if limit buy price is not matching with current market price but market price is lower than my Limit Buy Price is it will not be executed at exchange rate (Which may slightly differ but is lower than my limit price)?
Yes if you place a limit buy order with a price higher than current market price, it will turn into a market order itself.
Hello Sir,
Is it possible to place an order say on friday then can it be get executed on saturday?
Thanks,
There is no trading on Saturday, today there was mock trading. Basically demo trading for brokerages to be able to test their platform.
Hello,
I am following a stock and which is upper circuit from past two days. I am placing AMO at market price but still not able to buy that stock.
What is the best way to buy these kind of stocks.
1. AMO orders ? (How AMO orders will be executed)
2. Pre-market orders between 9 AM to 9.07 AM ? (Whether to go for market price or limit ?)
3. Market Open orders 9.15 AM ? (Market price orders or UC orders ?)
Please clarify.
Hi,
If i buy a stock on 3:15 PM today (delivery) , is it possible to place an after hours order at 7:30 PM to sell the stock ?
Thanks,
Yes you can Pravin. If you buy today and sell tomorrow it is called BTST. BTST has certain risks, make sure to read this: http://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/btstatst-buyacquire-today-sell-tomorrow
For Equity Delivery is After Market Order is available on non working days for example on weekends ?
Yes it is, unless there is server maintenance.
Hi,
When are we getting GTC ( Good till cancelled) or GTD ( Good till Date) in Cash, FNO Market NSE ? This is quite necessary in today’s times
I spoke to Zerodha customer care and also read the complete blog above regarding AMO. I am getting contradictory information from the article above and what was told to me by customer care; hence the question here.
I have a position in Nifty Futures that I would like to square-off at the Open price (at 9:15:00 am) or as close to 9:15:00 as possible. There are 2 options:
1. Place AMO as Market Order before the market opens
2. Place a Market Order manually from Pi as soon as the market opens, that is, 9:15:00 am
I was told by customer care that if I place AMO, the order would be executed exactly at Open price at 9:15:00 without any delay. However this is probably not true based on what is written above and the order would be queued up for execution in the next few seconds. There is a contradiction here. I guess what is mentioned above is correct (it would be queued up and it would take a few seconds to get executed as Market order for AMO orders).
2 questions:
1. Which of the above two options have greater probability to execute closer to 9:15:00 am?
2. For AMO Market Orders, how much time in seconds (a rough range) does it typically take to get executed after 9:15:00 am?
This is for Nifty Futures of near month, which are always very liquid.
1. Place a market order at the open (not using AMO), greater probability of faster execution.
2. AMO orders time is not fixed should happen fast. But worst case, it can take upto a minute or more. So if you are worried for the fastest execution, place a market at open.
Will try to figure out whom u spoke to on our team.
Great! This answers my queries. In fact, I just received a detailed response on the same lines from your team as well.