{"id":396027,"date":"2024-11-14T13:34:39","date_gmt":"2024-11-14T08:04:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/?p=396027"},"modified":"2024-11-25T11:26:07","modified_gmt":"2024-11-25T05:56:07","slug":"its-the-economy-stupid-company-profits-are-falling-and-foreign-investors-are-selling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/subtext\/its-the-economy-stupid-company-profits-are-falling-and-foreign-investors-are-selling","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s the economy, stupid! Company profits are falling and foreign investors are selling"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>We love IndiaDataHub\u2019s weekly newsletter, \u2018<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/indiadatahub.substack.com\/\"><em>This Week in Data<\/em><\/a><em>\u2019, which neatly wraps up all major macro data stories for the week. We love it so much, in fact, that we\u2019ve taken it upon ourselves to create a simple, digestible version of their newsletter for those of you that don\u2019t like econ-speak. Think of us as a cover band, reproducing their ideas in our own style. Attribute all insights, here, to IndiaDataHub. All mistakes, of course, are our own.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\r\n<h3><!-- \/wp:post-content -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:separator --><\/h3>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\r\n<h2><b>A rollercoaster for India Inc<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The past couple of years have been like a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/ftp.motilaloswal.com\/emailer\/Research\/INDIA_STRATEGY-2QFY25-20241006-MOSL-RP-PG286.pdf\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">seesaw<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> for Indian companies. FY23 was a strong year for demand\u2014people were coming out of lockdowns and ready to spend. Revenue growth was solid, but most Indian companies saw their margins shrink, which kept profits from matching sales. Why? Because the Russia-Ukraine war sent shockwaves through global supply chains, pushing <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC10015268\/#:~:text=By%20April%202022%2C%20the%20world,prices%20had%20more%20than%20doubled.\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">commodity prices<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> through the roof.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then in FY24, the trend reversed. Commodity prices cooled down, and with this relief, margins rebounded. Thanks to the lower base effect, profits grew faster than revenues.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now, in FY25, things are starting to settle. Earnings are normalizing, and we\u2019re even seeing a slowdown. In fact, September\u201925 is the fifth consecutive quarter of slowing profit growth and the first since March &#8217;23 where profits actually shrank \u2014 by 3.4%. Meanwhile, revenue growth has stayed steady, hovering around 7-8% through 2024.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-396034 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--1024x675.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--1024x675.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--768x507.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--1536x1013.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/india-inc-revenue-and-profit-growth--2048x1351.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The details of the latest quarter reveal some clear trouble spots. Key sectors like industrial commodities, construction, and investment-linked industries\u2014think power and steel\u2014have been especially sluggish. Demand is also lagging in consumer-driven sectors like FMCG and automotive, where growth is a struggle. FMCG companies are seeing only a slow recovery in rural areas, and urban demand is showing signs of cooling down.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">While IT services and BFSI (banking, financial services, and insurance) held up a bit better, they couldn\u2019t do much to lift the overall performance. IT managed steady demand, and BFSI saw a slight bump in interest income, although it was the slowest we\u2019ve seen in a while. Plus, with credit growth slowing, BFSI\u2019s interest income might stay stagnant in the coming quarters.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<hr \/>\r\n<h2><b>Healthy receipts but sluggish capex for India<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here\u2019s an interesting snapshot of India\u2019s income and capex scene lately. In September, corporate tax collections made a bit of a comeback, growing by 12% year-on-year after two months of decline. But zoom out a bit, and the picture isn\u2019t as rosy\u2014year-to-date corporate tax collections have grown by only 2% year-on-year, with an 8.3% dip just in the September quarter. Basically, corporate tax collections and corporate profit growth seem to be moving in sync, both facing a slowdown.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-396031 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-1024x678.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"678\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-1024x678.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-300x199.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-768x508.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-1536x1017.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/corporate-and-personal-tax-2048x1356.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">On the personal income tax side, things look a bit brighter with a 23% year-on-year growth in September. However, even here, there are signs of a cool-off. Growth in income tax collections slowed to 6.7% in the September quarter, the lowest rate we\u2019ve seen in recent years.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, if tax collections have been choppy, what about the government\u2019s overall income? Turns out, it\u2019s still growing at a solid pace, with total receipts up in the mid-teens. But here\u2019s where it gets interesting: despite this steady inflow, there hasn\u2019t been a pickup in capital expenditure (capex).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was widely expected that post-elections, government capex would ramp up, giving the economy a boost. And initially, it seemed to go that way\u2014July saw a massive 108% increase as the government, fresh from a June mandate, rolled out big spending plans. But since then, things haven\u2019t been as rosy as expected. In September, central government capex dropped 2% year-on-year, following a sharp 30% year-on-year fall in August. Taking a step back, the bigger picture shows a 15% decline in capital expenditure for the first half of the year.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-396030 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-1024x678.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"678\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-1024x678.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-300x199.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-768x509.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-1536x1017.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/India-Capex-2048x1356.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, while the government\u2019s revenue is holding up, the capex meant to fuel growth seems to be slowing down. It\u2019s a curious situation\u2014one that could affect the economic momentum many were counting on.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<hr \/>\r\n<h2><b>Do foreign investors not want to invest in India anymore?<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Remember when media houses went all out in late September, celebrating India\u2019s forex reserves crossing the $700 billion mark? It was a big deal, and we even covered it in <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/thedailybrief.zerodha.com\/i\/149977916\/indias-forex-win\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Daily Brief<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The main driver behind this record-breaking reserve was a strong capital account balance, fueled by foreign investments\u2014Foreign Direct Investments (FDI) and Foreign Portfolio Investments (FPI).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But then came October, and the markets took a sharp U-turn. We saw over $11 billion worth of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/thedailybrief.zerodha.com\/i\/150678199\/foreign-investors-have-been-on-a-selling-spree\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">FPI selling in equities<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2014a record-breaking monthly outflow, even surpassing the previous high of $8.3 billion during the COVID crash in March 2020. The outflows could have been even larger if not for the $2.4 billion flowing into the primary market.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Markets didn\u2019t take it lightly either. Nifty 50, for instance, dropped by 6.22%\u2014the biggest monthly fall since the COVID era. Can we blame it all on the FPI selloff? Maybe not entirely, but it\u2019s likely that all that selling pressure played a part in the market slide.<\/span> \u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-396033 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-1024x675.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-1024x675.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-768x506.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-1536x1012.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FPI-in-equities-2048x1349.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">FPIs were net sellers in debt as well, with outflows hitting just over $400 million. This outflow pressure has also started to weigh on India\u2019s forex reserves, which have dipped by around $20 billion in the past four weeks. Is it a crisis? Not quite. India still has a hefty <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/economictimes.indiatimes.com\/news\/economy\/indicators\/indias-forex-reserves-fall-to-682-13-billion-down-2-6-billion-as-of-nov-1\/articleshow\/115085129.cms?from=mdr\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">$682 billion<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in reserves, enough to handle further outflows if needed. But if this keeps up, it could start to test our limits.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-396032 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-1024x676.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"676\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-1024x676.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-768x507.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-1536x1014.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/FX-reserves-2048x1352.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here\u2019s why that matters: if reserves keep falling, the rupee could take a hit, and depreciate making imports pricier. And without a healthy stash of forex, bringing in things like fuel and essential goods could get harder too. We\u2019re in a safe spot for now, but if the trend doesn\u2019t slow down, it might get a bit tight down the road.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<hr \/>\r\n<h2><b>US GDP holds up, but jobs signal a softer path ahead<\/b><\/h2>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The US economy is holding up, but the signs are getting a bit softer. The Bureau of Economic Analysis released its advance estimate for third-quarter GDP growth, showing a 2.8% annualized rate. That&#8217;s down slightly from 3% in the June quarter but still a solid number, especially in absolute terms. For now, 2.8% looks like healthy growth.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But when we take a closer look on the job market, things aren\u2019t quite as strong. The Bureau of Labor Statistics\u2019 October report showed a noticeable slowdown, with the economy adding only 12,000 jobs\u2014a record low for this cycle. While hurricanes Helene and Milton may have distorted the numbers a bit, the slowdown is hard to ignore, especially since job growth for the previous two months was also revised down by a total of 112,000.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-396029\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-1024x677.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"677\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-1024x677.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-768x508.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-1536x1016.png 1536w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/US-GDP-data-2048x1354.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A softening labor market in the U.S. isn\u2019t just a little blip; it\u2019s something the Fed tends to keep a close eye on. Unlike most other central banks, the Fed actually has a mandate to support high employment, not just keep inflation in check.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, when job numbers start looking weak, people expect the Fed to step in a bit more. That\u2019s part of why markets are betting on a 50 basis point rate cut by year-end, with 25bps cuts at each of the two remaining meetings. Investors are pretty much counting on the Fed to give the economy a boost if job growth keeps losing steam.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\" \/>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><!-- \/wp:separator -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:paragraph --><\/span> That\u2019s all for this week, folks!<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Revenues up, profits down, capex slipping, and foreign outflows on the rise\u2014is India Inc. heading for a reset or just hitting a rough patch?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":242548,"featured_media":396036,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[532],"tags":[910,888,707,706,666,1074,889,770,737],"class_list":["post-396027","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-subtext","tag-capex","tag-corporate-tax","tag-foreign-exchange-reserves","tag-foreign-portfolio-investment","tag-forex","tag-fpi","tag-income-tax","tag-its-the-economy-stupid","tag-us-gdp"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v23.5 (Yoast SEO v26.6) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>It&#039;s the economy, stupid! 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