{"id":389551,"date":"2024-09-11T14:03:20","date_gmt":"2024-09-11T08:33:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/?p=389551"},"modified":"2024-09-11T17:24:58","modified_gmt":"2024-09-11T11:54:58","slug":"its-the-economy-stupid-the-markets-must-be-crazy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/subtext\/its-the-economy-stupid-the-markets-must-be-crazy","title":{"rendered":"It\u2019s the economy, stupid! The markets must be crazy!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>We love IndiaDataHub\u2019s weekly newsletter, \u2018<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/indiadatahub.substack.com\/\"><em>This Week in Data<\/em><\/a><em>\u2019, which neatly wraps up all major macro data stories for the week. We love it so much, in fact, that we\u2019ve taken it upon ourselves to create a simple, digestible version of their newsletter for those of you that don\u2019t like econ-speak. Think of us as a cover band, reproducing their ideas in our own style. Attribute all insights, here, to IndiaDataHub. All mistakes, of course, are our own.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-money-tsunami-that-s-drowning-the-markets\"><strong>The money tsunami that\u2019s drowning the markets<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>By a generous estimate, no more than half of India\u2019s economic activity happens in its &#8216;formal sector&#8217;. Of all its formal sector firms \u2014 roughly 1.7 million in number \u2014 just ~8,000 firms are listed publicly. And only a small fraction of these are actually on investors\u2019 radars. So, when the stock markets value these 8,000 firms at one-and-a-half times the size of India\u2019s GDP, you have to wonder if we\u2019re all going a bit crazy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See, India\u2019s equity market capitalisation \u2014 the total value our stock markets place on all the companies listed within them \u2014 has hit \u20b9465 trillion, or $5.6 trillion. This is <em>~150%<\/em> of our GDP. Just last year, it was at two-thirds that figure. There&#8217;s no way these companies grew their businesses so much in the last year that they&#8217;re worth an extra trillion-and-a-half dollars. Is everyone just going <em>mental<\/em>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before you panic too much, there&#8217;s a caveat: the comparison between market capitalisations and the GDP breaks down pretty quickly. Market capitalisation is a \u2018stock\u2019 measure \u2014 it\u2019s a measure of the <em>total <\/em>value that investors place on India\u2019s listed companies. GDP, on the other hand, is a \u2018flow\u2019 measure \u2014 it looks at India\u2019s economic activity in a <em>specific period<\/em>. This is a little like comparing all of someone\u2019s money with someone else\u2019s salary package. The stock measure will always look bigger by comparison.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"599\" height=\"314\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389552\" style=\"width:538px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image.png 599w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-300x157.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, 599px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Stocks and Flows | <a href=\"https:\/\/keydifferences.com\/difference-between-stock-and-flow.html\">Source<\/a><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>But even considering that, this is a useful comparison to make. The GDP, if nothing else, is an extremely large number, which is tied to the size of India&#8217;s economy. Perhaps comparing a GDP figure to market capitalisation tells us nothing concrete. It is, however, a rough thumb rule to see how expensive stocks are. And right now, the answer seems to be: \u201cvery\u201d. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Want to know the last (and only other) time valuations were this high? December 2007. And you know what happened after <em>that<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"677\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP-1024x677.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389573\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP-1024x677.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP-768x508.jpg 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/1_Market_Cap_GDP.jpg 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-foreigners-warm-up-to-indian-debt\"><strong>Foreigners warm up to Indian debt<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Foreign portfolio investors bought $2 billion worth of Indian debt in August. That might sound like a lot, but honestly, it\u2019s almost been par for the course, this year. FPIs have bought roughly the same amount of Indian debt every month since October last year, save for a sudden and sharp fall this April.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is everyone suddenly interested in our debt? It\u2019s probably no coincidence that this sudden and sustained influx began last October, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thehindubusinessline.com\/economy\/fpis-pump-18-billion-in-indian-government-debt-since-j-p-morgan-bond-index-inclusion-announcement\/article68618603.ece\">a mere month after<\/a> JP Morgan announced India\u2019s addition to its emerging market bond index from this June.\u00a0That was a near-guarantee that every month, going ahead, a large amount of foreign money would automatically be allocated to Indian government bonds. Of course investors rushed to capitalise on this. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The results are clear: in the last nine months, Indian debt securities have pulled in a net of US$ ~17 billion.&nbsp;In total, FPIs now own ~US$ 65 billion in Indian debt, with just this year\u2019s additions making for almost a quarter of their total Indian debt holdings.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"674\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt-1024x674.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389574\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt-1024x674.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt-768x506.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2-FPI-Debt.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I know, that sounds like a lot. This is still tiny compared to equities, though. As of August, foreign investors hold <em>US$ 900 billion<\/em> in Indian equities \u2014 one whole order of magnitude larger than their debt holdings.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-energy-usage-declines-and-that-s-probably-not-a-bad-thing\"><strong>Energy usage declines (and that\u2019s probably not a bad thing)<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This August, Indians used a lot less energy than last year:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Indians used 2.6% less petroleum than last year. More specifically, our consumption of Diesel, Naphtha and Bitumen went down 2.5%, while Petrol and LPG consumption moderated.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>India generated 5% less electricity than it did last August. This is the biggest drop since June 2020, when India was under a strict COVID-linked lockdown.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage-1024x679.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389575\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage-1024x679.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage-300x199.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage-768x509.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/3-Energy_Usage.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><br>Declining energy usage is generally a bad sign for the economy. Since all economic activity takes energy, when less energy is used in the country, one can assume that there\u2019s been less economic activity as well. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there\u2019s an important difference between this year and the last, which could explain a lot of the currently decline. See, last August, the monsoon was terrible \u2014 the worst it had been in 15 years \u2014 while this time around, it&#8217;s been pretty decent!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"685\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends-1024x685.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389576\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends-1024x685.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends-300x201.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends-768x514.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/4-Rainfall_Trends.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The rains make a lot of difference to an economy. Consider a few possibilities:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>When there\u2019s less natural rainfall, farmers have to rely on motor pumps to irrigate their crops \u2014 which drink up diesel or petrol.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Rains makes construction difficult, so a good monsoon sees construction activity grind to a halt.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Rains tend to fill up mines and queries \u2014 after all, they are just holes in the ground. So mining is usually hit hard by the rains.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Last August, for instance, coal mining shot up by 20% over the preceding year, possibly because the rains were non-existent. This time around, in contrast, the fell 8% \u2014 probably because of a much better monsoon.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production-1024x682.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389577\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production-1024x682.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/5-Coal_Production.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So, was there less economic activity in August? That answer, tentatively, seems: \u2018yes\u2019. But does that mean India\u2019s medium term prospects have grown darker? That is less likely. If anything, good rains result in good harvests. If anything, you should expect the rural economy to do well in the medium term.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-automobile-sales-weaken\"><strong>Automobile sales weaken<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>August also saw automobile sales take a hit. Here is a quick round-up:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Two-wheeler sales were the only bright spot, going up 6% year-on-year.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Car sales declined 4% year-on-year.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Tractor sales were weak yet again: with year-on-year sales declining in the double digits for the third straight month. That\u2019s the one head that\u2019s genuinely worrying.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Commercial vehicles \u2014 goods carriers and construction equipment \u2014 saw a 10% decline in sales.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales-1024x681.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389578\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales-1024x681.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales-768x511.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/6-Automobile_Sales.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-make-america-work-again\"><strong>Make America work again<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>India\u2019s central bank, RBI, is tasked with keeping inflation in check. In contrast, America\u2019s central bank \u2014 the United States Federal Reserve (affectionately, \u201c<strong>Fed<\/strong>\u201d) \u2014 has two jobs: keeping prices under control <em>and<\/em> ensuring maximum employment.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because of this extra task on its hands, the Fed\u2019s usually glued tight to news on American jobs. And off-late, that\u2019s been a whole lot of bad news. We had already pointed to some <a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/subtext\/its-the-economy-stupid-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-rate-cuts\">discouraging data<\/a> from last month, when American created less jobs than expected, while its unemployment rate climbed to pandemic-era figures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s posted another bad performance this month:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Through August, the US added 142,000 non-farm jobs, well below the expected 164,000 jobs.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Older data on job creation over June and July, too, was pushed downwards.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>With that, the last three months look like the worst patch the American labour market has seen in a few years.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"678\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs-1024x678.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-389579\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs-1024x678.png 1024w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs-300x199.png 300w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs-768x508.png 768w, https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/7-US_Jobs.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So, what should the Fed do? At its next meeting, later this month, a rate cut is almost a sure bet. The markets give a 100% probability to a 0.25% rate cut. There\u2019s also a decent chance \u2014 30%, per the markets \u2014 that the cut will be as big as 0.50%.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>People don\u2019t expect the cuts to stop there, by the way. The markets think there\u2019s a 90% chance that rates will be 1% below where they currently are by the end of the year. The Fed will only meet three more times this year. Even if two of them see 0.25% cuts, if the markets are to be believed, you\u2019ll at least have one 0.5% rate cut this year. That&#8217;s<em> big<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why, though? Well, because rate cuts are like a meaningful glance on <em>garba <\/em>night. They signal a lot more than is said out loud. Monetary policy decisions involve a central bank defining the cost of money, sure. Behind that decision, though, are a lot of small, unsaid indications about how it views the economy. Dario Perkins is only being <em>slightly <\/em>tongue-in-cheek in this post:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/twitter.com\/darioperkins\/status\/1832306640210526435\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Equities are worth 150% of India&#8217;s GDP. Foreigners are plowing in 2 billion dollars a month into Indian debt. 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