{"id":319932,"date":"2022-04-04T09:17:48","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T03:47:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/?p=319932"},"modified":"2024-02-02T13:50:15","modified_gmt":"2024-02-02T08:20:15","slug":"introducing-iceberg-orders-and-order-validity-in-minutes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/kite\/introducing-iceberg-orders-and-order-validity-in-minutes","title":{"rendered":"Introducing Iceberg orders and order validity in minutes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/hindi\/iceberg-%e0%a4%91%e0%a4%b0%e0%a5%8d%e0%a4%a1%e0%a4%b0-%e0%a4%94%e0%a4%b0-%e0%a4%ae%e0%a4%bf%e0%a4%a8%e0%a4%9f%e0%a5%8d%e0%a4%b8-%e0%a4%ae%e0%a5%87%e0%a4%82-%e0%a4%91%e0%a4%b0%e0%a5%8d%e0%a4%a1-2\">Hindi: Iceberg \u0911\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930 \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u093f\u0928\u091f\u094d\u0938 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0911\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930 \u0915\u0940 \u0935\u0948\u0932\u093f\u0921\u093f\u091f\u0940 \u0938\u0947 \u092a\u0930\u093f\u091a\u092f\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Note: Please update the Kite mobile app, if you don&#8217;t see the Iceberg order type.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Iceberg is an order type that slices orders of larger quantity (or value) into smaller orders, where each small order, or leg, is sent to the exchange only after the previous order is filled.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This helps reduce the impact cost of execution in addition to not revealing large orders in the market depth bids and offers. Icebergs are a very popular order type amongst institutional traders, and we are excited to introduce this to the retail traders in India.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Impact cost<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Impact cost represents the difference in the actual traded price as compared to the price of the instrument when the order was placed. For example, if a market order to buy 1000 shares was placed when the stock was trading at \u20b9100, and if the actual execution price was \u20b9100.5, this \u20b90.5 x 1000 = \u20b9500 would be the impact cost for the order. Similarly, if a limit order to buy 1000 shares was placed at \u20b9100 when the stock was trading at \u20b9100 and was later modified to 100.3 to get a fill, then 0.3 x 1000 = \u20b9300 is technically the impact cost.<\/p>\n<p>As the size of the order increases, the impact cost goes up as well. Traders with large order values end up losing a lot more money to impact costs as compared to all other charges combined (STT, Brokerage, exchange transaction, etc).<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do Icebergs work?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As the name suggests, when a large order is placed, it is divided into smaller orders or legs, and only the first leg is placed on the exchange at first, revealing only the tip of the iceberg. Once this leg is executed, the next leg of the main order is placed, and so on, until the desired quantity is traded. The number of legs is decided by the customer.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Follow these steps to place an Iceberg order:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Click on Iceberg on the order window.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Select <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Intraday<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Overnight<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Enter <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Quantity<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Price<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Select <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Market<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Limit<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Enter the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Number of legs <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and click on <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Buy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sell<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The maximum number of legs per Iceberg is 10.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h5><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Example scenario<\/span><\/h5>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">An order for Nifty CE of 3000 quantity (60 lots) can be divided into 5 orders of 600 each by selecting the number of legs. This way, every subsequent order of 600 will be executed only once the previous orders are executed.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_319968\" style=\"width: 1895px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-319968\" class=\"wp-image-319968 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/iceberg-new.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1885\" height=\"898\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-319968\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Iceberg orders<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Important<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Since each leg is a separate order, the <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">brokerage is charged separately. That is, if the order is split into 5 legs, then the brokerage will be applicable for 5 executed orders individually. See <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/charges\/#tab-equities\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">list of all charges and taxes. <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You can use disclosed quantity feature for equity trades which will work very similar to Icebergs, and disclosed quantity feature doesn\u2019t create multiple orders and hence won&#8217;t have any additional costs. Disclosed quantity feature isn\u2019t available for F&amp;O trades.\u00a0 See <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/support.zerodha.com\/category\/trading-and-markets\/kite-web-and-mobile\/others\/articles\/what-is-disclosed-quantity-feature-and-how-to-use-it\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What is disclosed quantity feature and how to use it?<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you cancel any leg of an Iceberg order that is placed on the exchange, all remaining pending legs that are yet to be placed are automatically cancelled. Similarly, if you modify the price of any leg of the Iceberg placed on the exchange, the price will get modified for all the pending legs to the new price.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The minimum order value is \u20b91,00,000 for equity and 5 lots for F&amp;O.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Order validity in minutes<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Along with DAY (valid for the whole trading day until filled) and IOC (Immediate or Cancel) orders, we are introducing a new minute validity feature. An order can be set to auto-cancel if it does not complete in a given period of time, and this period is set in minutes. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Iceberg orders can be placed with validity in minutes along with regular orders.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_319938\" style=\"width: 1904px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-319938\" class=\"wp-image-319938 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/z-connect\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/iceberg-timed.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1894\" height=\"860\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-319938\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Timed iceberg orders<\/p><\/div>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Icebergs to overcome order freeze limits<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Exchanges have a<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/zerodha.com\/marketintel\/bulletin\/319817\/quantity-freeze-limits-for-indices-7\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> maximum order<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> limit set for equity derivative contracts. For example, the maximum number of lots of Nifty that can be placed in one order is 36 lots (1800 Qty), and for Bank Nifty, it is 48 lots (1200 Qty). This is an inconvenience to traders who want to execute larger quantities, requiring them to place multiple orders. With Iceberg orders, you can now place an order to buy 10000 quantity or 200 lots of Nifty or more at the same time. This will not only mean not having to place multiple orders in case of a large order but also help reduce impact costs.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Iceberg orders are available for NSE equity, F&amp;O, currency, and BSE equity only. Icebergs can\u2019t be used in the case of market and SL-M orders on BSE. Iceberg orders and minute validity will not be supported in the case of pre-open &amp; post-market sessions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Happy Trading,\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hindi: Iceberg \u0911\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930 \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u093f\u0928\u091f\u094d\u0938 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0911\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930 \u0915\u0940 \u0935\u0948\u0932\u093f\u0921\u093f\u091f\u0940 \u0938\u0947 \u092a\u0930\u093f\u091a\u092f\u00a0 Note: Please update the Kite mobile app, if you don&#8217;t see the Iceberg order type.\u00a0 Iceberg is an order type that slices orders of larger quantity (or value) into smaller orders, where each small order, or leg, is sent to the exchange only after [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":176551,"featured_media":319990,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[531,369],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-319932","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-general","category-kite"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v23.5 (Yoast SEO v26.6) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Introducing Iceberg orders and order validity in minutes &#8211; 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